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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:03 pm

    From RT.

    http://www.rt.com/business/317020-ford-trucks-russia-avtotor/

    The Avtotor plant in the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad is about to begin assembling Ford trucks. The vehicles will be adapted specifically for the Russian market and comply with European safety standards.

    "We are in a pre-production stage of the four most popular models – tow trucks and road construction machinery ... Actual production will depend on market conditions, as well as currency and inflation that have a direct impact on this," Avtotor told RIA Novosti.

    The 4,000 parts for each truck will come from Ford’s Otosan plant in Turkey. The complete knocked-down (CKD) assembly technology provides a high percentage of localization. CKD means importing parts to the country where the vehicle will be finally assembled; tariffs for parts are lower than for complete vehicles which makes the end product cheaper. Moreover, all vehicles will be equipped with Russian made options.

    Avtotor was founded in 1994 in Kaliningrad. It was the first plant in Russia to assemble foreign cars. Today it produces automobiles for BMW, Kia, Hyundai and Chevrolet. Last year the plant assembled 186,000 cars.

    Kaliningrad is an exclave city between Poland and Lithuania on the Baltic Sea. Its proximity to the EU has made it attractive for foreign auto makers to assemble cars there for the Russian market.

    The devaluing ruble has also made many producers turn to Russia. In August, the average salary across the country was 31,870 rubles (less than $500 a month), according to the official statistics agency Rosstat. Russian labor is now cheaper than in Romania and China.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:39 am

    Ministry of Industry: to support the car industry should be 27.2 billion rubles for 3 years
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:48 am

    Couple of news:

    Avtovaz Lada Vesta in CNG form

    Ford has started producing cars with engines of the Russian manufacture

    Kaliningrad enterprise "Avtotor" started assembling Hyundai Elantra
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:52 am

    Started production of "Gazelle Next» with a more powerful engine
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    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:24 pm

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:27 am

    "GAZ Group" has launched serial production of "Gazelle NEXT» with all-metal body
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Militarov on Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:16 am

    UAZ Patriot - universal offroad vehicle

    New Patriot modified on request by Russian army will be avialable for civilian market too. Patriot passed all Russian army tests and will soon enter full scale production said Artjom Zoltikov chief of department for cooperation with state structures on Interpolitex. Difference between civilian and military Patriot is in chasis, full steel forged rims, it lacks roof baggage holders, instead it will have holders for fuel, oil, water, weapons and hand tools (axes, shovels).



    Judging by informations given by central army region of Minstry of Defence they already use 30 UAZ-3163 vehicles which replaced older UAZ platforms. It includes Patriot-Okapi intelligence gathering platform (radar, TV channel, Thermal channel - http://www.gorizontrostov.ru/ru/uaz.html)



    New Patriot was modified that way so it can survive exploatation in most harash conditions including Arctic. Patriot can serve as platfom for wide range of weapons and systems, like command vehicle, intelligence gathering, ATGM launcher up to weight of 1t. When Compared to Hummer, Patriot offers better offroad capabilities and exploatation on bad roads. It will be used to fill gaps in roles made by Tigr platform, using it for tasks which for Tigr is an overkil (not literall translation here Very Happy). For now its not offered for export.

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    http://www.crveneberetke.com/uaz-patriot-univerzalno-terensko-vozilo-video/
    http://russia-insider.com/en/business/russias-answer-humvee-uaz-start-production-patriot-suv/ri10885
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:06 pm


    Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016. thumbsup russia







    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016. thumbsup russia
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

    Bout bloody time, btw is there any electric lada under dev??
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:49 pm

    SEZ “Togliatti” opened up production for engine parts - My Site English
    Sdelanounas Link

    essentially, the plant is just building various parts for engines. And many parts are to be exported to Turkey, Greece and others through Renault.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:55 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016. thumbsup russia
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

    Bout bloody time, btw is there any electric lada under dev??



    Lada Ellada. Ugly looking thing.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:07 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016. thumbsup russia
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

    Bout bloody time, btw is there any electric lada under dev??



    Lada Ellada.  Ugly looking thing.

    I wouldn't say ugly, if anything it looks average, nothing really stands out, anyway it's an old design from 2012 if they do bring it to fruition it'll most likly be updated to XRAY desing.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:55 pm

    No idea really. I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles. But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle. Outside a city and it becomes a problem. CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:30 am

    sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

    Yea, in Russia electric would be pretty useless, a hybrid would make more sense, any dev work on those??
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    Post  Regular on Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:13 am

    When petrol/diesel is so cheap in Russia who in their right fucking mind would buy hybrids? Should I even begin about their reliability?
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:13 am

    Regular wrote:When petrol/diesel is so cheap in Russia who in their right fucking mind would buy hybrids? Should I even begin about their reliability?

    Is there any chance for these stuff in export, there are countries where people are crying about skyrocketing fuel price, for example... mine.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  kvs on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:25 am

    Regular wrote:When petrol/diesel is so cheap in Russia who in their right fucking mind would buy hybrids? Should I even begin about their reliability?

    Actually the Russian gasoline price is close to the US price. It is Venezuela and Saudi Arabia that have super cheap subsidized prices.

    http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:39 am

    Why bother with hybrids when conventional fuels are cheap?

    Because they might not always be so cheap.

    Because there is money in alternative technologies that might end up even cheaper and more practical.

    Because new technology is transferable and can be used for previously unthought of applications.

    At high latitudes solar power might not be much use during winter, but during summer it is quite useful for a variety of applications... so on its own it might not be so great but in combination with perhaps wind generation it could be a fairly useful all year round source of free energy for some applications.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:51 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

    Yea, in Russia electric would be pretty useless, a hybrid would make more sense, any dev work on those??

    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/10/20151012-lada.html

    I posted it earlier. A CNG/Petrol dual tank Lada Vesta with rated 1000KM distance on full tank. CNG is roughly 4x cheaper per L and thus a demand for automobiles to run off of it. As KVS pointed out, there are no subsidies to petrol and thus prices are higher (but Euro5 is much better quality than ours in North America) and CNG is dirt cheap. So long as there are CNG tanks at the petrol stations throughout the country (like propane here), then it only makes sense. Dual tank of just CNG would also work very well with similar performance.
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    Post  Rmf on Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:45 pm

    sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.
    not only cheaper and less polluting ,it would free up more oil for export and oil is more profitable then gas.
    unlike liquid petrol gas who switch from petrol to gas after few minutes in winter because evaporator needs to heat up ,cng cars switch from petrol to cng after 10 sec in every wheather, since cng is already in gas state in the tank. (all cars start up with petrol then switch to other fuel.)


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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Rmf on Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:48 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

    Yea, in Russia electric would be pretty useless, a hybrid would make more sense, any dev work on those??

    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/10/20151012-lada.html

    I posted it earlier. A CNG/Petrol dual tank Lada Vesta with rated 1000KM distance on full tank.  CNG is roughly 4x cheaper per L and thus a demand for automobiles to run off of it.  As KVS pointed out, there are no subsidies to petrol and thus prices are higher (but Euro5 is much better quality than ours in North America) and CNG is dirt cheap.  So long as there are CNG tanks at the petrol stations throughout the country (like propane here), then it only makes sense.  Dual tank of just CNG would also work very well with similar performance.
    autonomy on cng is low but russia has massive natural gas infrastructure , then you only need compressor stations -easy to link up to pipelines, and you can have NG pumps everywhere.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  AlfaT8 on Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:30 am

    Well this has turned into an interesting discussion, anyway petrol/CNG hybrid seems like a good idea, specially since it will lead to the development of a gas infrastructure that will later be modified for hydrogen.

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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Project Canada on Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:14 am




    I wonder whats up with the high number of Dislikes in the video Question
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:47 am

    Project Canada wrote:I wonder whats up with the high number of Dislikes in the video Question

    Lack of subtitles maybe (really wanna know what there talking about, but no subs, so dislike) scratch
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  higurashihougi on Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:59 am

    Russian Ambassador at Việt Nam, mr. Konstantin Vnukov, confirmed about the plan to put Kamaz and UAZ assembly line in Vietnam.

    So if there is no unexpected issues, Russian cars will be assembled in Vietnam in 2016.

    http://vtc.vn/dai-su-nga-tai-khang-dinh-se-lap-rap-xe-uaz-tai-viet-nam.31.588158.htm

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