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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  Maximmmm on Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:43 pm

    whir wrote:
    Any high-rise is better than those endless one-story gnome kingdoms that pollute the outskirts of most cities.

    Yeah, but it doesn't mean we have to build hideous ones.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:57 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:
    whir wrote:
    Any high-rise is better than those endless one-story gnome kingdoms that pollute the outskirts of most cities.

    Yeah, but it doesn't mean we have to build hideous ones.

    But that is simply perception and nothing more. I prefer smaller buildings and not highrises.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  Maximmmm on Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:50 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:
    whir wrote:
    Any high-rise is better than those endless one-story gnome kingdoms that pollute the outskirts of most cities.

    Yeah, but it doesn't mean we have to build hideous ones.

    But that is simply perception and nothing more. I prefer smaller buildings and not highrises.

    Read an interesting article recently about rising interest in low-rise buildings (3-4 stories). They're mostly built a bit farther out from the city and suffer infrastructure issues (no schools, hospitals, good roads nearby). Even with that though they command something like a fifth of the market for new buildings.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:35 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:The people seem nicer (I swear I'm not kidding).
    Very intersting account. I hope you're right regarding people in Moscow, as this was the thing I most disliked there. Been there in summer 2011 - not that long ago. I speak some Russian, it sometimes takes me time to put the nouns and adjectives in their correct declensions, so I am a bit slow, and people showed no patience whatsoever towards me. English was completely useless, no one talked to me in this language: I even went to a restaurant close to Tretyakov gallery which had a sign saying that they speak English, but no, the waiter didn't, and again wasn't very helpful when I tried to speak Russian. Then I noticed that older people (50+) are way nicer and more willing to help, and started asking only them. And those who wore any kind of Soviet sign (pins, medals, banners, etc) were the nicest and most helpful of all. From this I infer that in the Soviet era people had better social skills, at least in Moscow.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  kvs on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:22 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:The people seem nicer (I swear I'm not kidding).
    Very intersting account. I hope you're right regarding people in Moscow, as this was the thing I most disliked there. Been there in summer 2011 - not that long ago. I speak some Russian, it sometimes takes me time to put the nouns and adjectives in their correct declensions, so I am a bit slow, and people showed no patience whatsoever towards me. English was completely useless, no one talked to me in this language: I even went to a restaurant close to Tretyakov gallery which had a sign saying that they speak English, but no, the waiter didn't, and again wasn't very helpful when I tried to speak Russian. Then I noticed that older people (50+) are way nicer and more willing to help, and started asking only them. And those who wore any kind of Soviet sign (pins, medals, banners, etc) were the nicest and most helpful of all. From this I infer that in the Soviet era people had better social skills, at least in Moscow.

    This assessment is right on target. The recent generations of me, me, me and instant gratification behave exactly like
    you experienced. The older ones grew up in a different reference frame and actually give you the time of day.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:43 am

    This is HUGE

    Samara scientists work out the technology of "printing" aerospace components on a 3D printer
    Scientists of Samara state aerospace University (SSAU) began to develop the technologies for production of components for the aviation industry by "baking" them from the metal powder on a special 3D printer.
    "3D-laser sintering production of the first parts for small gas turbine engine — a combustor and a turbine.
    "Grown" on the printer metal parts are sent to bench test", — told reporters today in a press-service of the University.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:01 am

    sepheronx wrote:This is HUGE

    Samara scientists work out the technology of "printing" aerospace components on a 3D printer
    Scientists of Samara state aerospace University (SSAU) began to develop the technologies for production of components for the aviation industry by "baking" them from the metal powder on a special 3D printer.
    "3D-laser sintering production of the first parts for small gas turbine engine — a combustor and a turbine.
    "Grown" on the printer metal parts are sent to bench test", — told reporters today in a press-service of the University.


    It is huge. So far 3D printing has been mostly about creating plastic parts. If they can control the metal crystal structure to
    assure the strength of the turbine blades then they have gone far. I can see a layered formation approach becoming superior
    to the casting process of the past. Pouring metal into a mold and having it cool has the problem of non-uniform cooling from the
    outside which creates micro-fractures and compromises the strength of the part.

    What would be really cool is printing CPUs. The laser etching system being developed with Rusnano funding is in this category
    of technology.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:28 pm

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:This is HUGE

    Samara scientists work out the technology of "printing" aerospace components on a 3D printer
    Scientists of Samara state aerospace University (SSAU) began to develop the technologies for production of components for the aviation industry by "baking" them from the metal powder on a special 3D printer.
    "3D-laser sintering production of the first parts for small gas turbine engine — a combustor and a turbine.
    "Grown" on the printer metal parts are sent to bench test", — told reporters today in a press-service of the University.


    It is huge.  So far 3D printing has been mostly about creating plastic parts.  If they can control the metal crystal structure to
    assure the strength of the turbine blades then they have gone far.   I can see a layered formation approach becoming superior
    to the casting process of the past.   Pouring metal into a mold and having it cool has the problem of non-uniform cooling from the
    outside which creates micro-fractures and compromises the strength of the part.  

    What would be really cool is printing CPUs.  The laser etching system being developed with Rusnano funding is in this category
    of technology.

    Very interesting indeed, especially the speed of the process that is performed, because apparently according the article it only takes 48 hours to manufacture parts this (3-D printing) way, as opposed to the conventional method which takes 3-6 months. We should also take in to account a significant portion of the costs of the aerospace industry is the costs of labor over the time it takes to produce an aircraft. With the new 3-D printing process, it should insure a significantly shorter turn-around, and a largely automated process, so we could end up seeing a cost reduction of 50%.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:51 pm

    Projects worth more than $8.3 billion to be discussed at Eastern Economic Forum

    BEIJING, July 30. /TASS/. Investors and Russian authorities will discuss around 200 projects worth more than $8.3 billion in the framework of Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok in September, deputy minister for development of the Far East Maksim Shereykin said on Thursday.

    "I don’t remember the exact sum, but it will be around something like 500 billion rubles [$8.37 billion at the current exchange rate]. This is the aggregate worth of these projects," Shereykin noted.

    Investors will discuss on projects of different scale at the Eastern Economic Forum, he said. "There will be small projects from 200 million rubles [$3.35 million] and big projects, for instance a bridge across the Lena River which is worth several billion rubles," the deputy minister added.

    More than 1,300 people have already registered to take part in the forum.

    In May, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree to hold the annual Vladivostok Eastern Economic Forum on September 3-5. The decree states that the decision on the forum was made "in order to facilitate the accelerated development of the Far East and the expansion of international cooperation in the Asia-Pacific region.".


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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:50 am

    Russia’s ‘Batmobile’ Tram Outclasses Western Analogues – German Media

    Russia has unveiled a new commuter tram that looks like something from a sci-fi flick and presents a serious challenge to its western counterparts, German media reported on Saturday.

    “Russia has for decades been staking on trams and St. Petersburg and Moscow, along with Melbourne and Berlin, boast the longest tram lines around,” the German daily newspaper Die Welt wrote.

    Dubbed as “Russian One” (or R1) this futuristic streetcar features LED cabin lighting, felt-covered sofas, wooden handrails, and sliding glass doors that operate by touchscreen.

    The tram made its debut in the Chinese city of Qingdao last week, and is expected to hit the streets of China later this year.

    With shiny black glass and an illuminated display it’s no wonder the locomotive has already been dubbed an “iPhone on rails” and the world’s first business-class tram.

    Designed and built by Uralvagonzavod, a company that specializes in tanks, the tram is super high-tech, both inside and out, thanks to Wi-Fi, GPS, and LED mood lighting that changes according to the weather and time of day.

    The cabin interiors – which can fit only 28 people per car and between 190 and 270 total – are designed to give standing passengers more space, while giving seated passengers more comfort.

    Mass production of the R1 is scheduled for next year. It will be tested first in Yekaterinburg, then then in Omsk and, finally, in Moscow.

    At around 1 million euros apiece, the R1 is twice cheaper compared to its European counterparts.

    Alexei Maslov, the new tram’s designer, is sure that his brainchild will sit well with foreign commuters and will look great gliding elegantly down the streets of Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Melbourne.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150809/1025548922.html#ixzz3ieCqwXym


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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:56 am

    George1 wrote:Russia’s ‘Batmobile’ Tram Outclasses Western Analogues – German Media

    Russia has unveiled a new commuter tram that looks like something from a sci-fi flick and presents a serious challenge to its western counterparts, German media reported on Saturday.

    “Russia has for decades been staking on trams and St. Petersburg and Moscow, along with Melbourne and Berlin, boast the longest tram lines around,” the German daily newspaper Die Welt wrote.

    Dubbed as “Russian One” (or R1) this futuristic streetcar features LED cabin lighting, felt-covered sofas, wooden handrails, and sliding glass doors that operate by touchscreen.

    The tram made its debut in the Chinese city of Qingdao last week, and is expected to hit the streets of China later this year.

    With shiny black glass and an illuminated display it’s no wonder the locomotive has already been dubbed an “iPhone on rails” and the world’s first business-class tram.

    Designed and built by Uralvagonzavod, a company that specializes in tanks, the tram is super high-tech, both inside and out, thanks to Wi-Fi, GPS, and LED mood lighting that changes according to the weather and time of day.

    The cabin interiors – which can fit only 28 people per car and between 190 and 270 total – are designed to give standing passengers more space, while giving seated passengers more comfort.

    Mass production of the R1 is scheduled for next year. It will be tested first in Yekaterinburg, then then in Omsk and, finally, in  Moscow.

    At around 1 million euros apiece, the R1 is twice cheaper compared to its European counterparts.

    Alexei Maslov, the new tram’s designer, is sure that his brainchild will sit well with foreign commuters and will look great gliding elegantly down the streets of Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Melbourne.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150809/1025548922.html#ixzz3ieCqwXym

    Germans seem a year late to ze partayyyy.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:17 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russia’s ‘Batmobile’ Tram Outclasses Western Analogues – German Media

    Russia has unveiled a new commuter tram that looks like something from a sci-fi flick and presents a serious challenge to its western counterparts, German media reported on Saturday.

    “Russia has for decades been staking on trams and St. Petersburg and Moscow, along with Melbourne and Berlin, boast the longest tram lines around,” the German daily newspaper Die Welt wrote.

    Dubbed as “Russian One” (or R1) this futuristic streetcar features LED cabin lighting, felt-covered sofas, wooden handrails, and sliding glass doors that operate by touchscreen.

    The tram made its debut in the Chinese city of Qingdao last week, and is expected to hit the streets of China later this year.

    With shiny black glass and an illuminated display it’s no wonder the locomotive has already been dubbed an “iPhone on rails” and the world’s first business-class tram.

    Designed and built by Uralvagonzavod, a company that specializes in tanks, the tram is super high-tech, both inside and out, thanks to Wi-Fi, GPS, and LED mood lighting that changes according to the weather and time of day.

    The cabin interiors – which can fit only 28 people per car and between 190 and 270 total – are designed to give standing passengers more space, while giving seated passengers more comfort.

    Mass production of the R1 is scheduled for next year. It will be tested first in Yekaterinburg, then then in Omsk and, finally, in  Moscow.

    At around 1 million euros apiece, the R1 is twice cheaper compared to its European counterparts.

    Alexei Maslov, the new tram’s designer, is sure that his brainchild will sit well with foreign commuters and will look great gliding elegantly down the streets of Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Melbourne.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150809/1025548922.html#ixzz3ieCqwXym

    Germans seem a year late to ze partayyyy.

    Better late then never, I love the fact that UVZ's batmotram is half the cost of the average euro-tram, but easily several times the quality... lol1
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:37 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russia’s ‘Batmobile’ Tram Outclasses Western Analogues – German Media

    Russia has unveiled a new commuter tram that looks like something from a sci-fi flick and presents a serious challenge to its western counterparts, German media reported on Saturday.

    “Russia has for decades been staking on trams and St. Petersburg and Moscow, along with Melbourne and Berlin, boast the longest tram lines around,” the German daily newspaper Die Welt wrote.

    Dubbed as “Russian One” (or R1) this futuristic streetcar features LED cabin lighting, felt-covered sofas, wooden handrails, and sliding glass doors that operate by touchscreen.

    The tram made its debut in the Chinese city of Qingdao last week, and is expected to hit the streets of China later this year.

    With shiny black glass and an illuminated display it’s no wonder the locomotive has already been dubbed an “iPhone on rails” and the world’s first business-class tram.

    Designed and built by Uralvagonzavod, a company that specializes in tanks, the tram is super high-tech, both inside and out, thanks to Wi-Fi, GPS, and LED mood lighting that changes according to the weather and time of day.

    The cabin interiors – which can fit only 28 people per car and between 190 and 270 total – are designed to give standing passengers more space, while giving seated passengers more comfort.

    Mass production of the R1 is scheduled for next year. It will be tested first in Yekaterinburg, then then in Omsk and, finally, in  Moscow.

    At around 1 million euros apiece, the R1 is twice cheaper compared to its European counterparts.

    Alexei Maslov, the new tram’s designer, is sure that his brainchild will sit well with foreign commuters and will look great gliding elegantly down the streets of Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Melbourne.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150809/1025548922.html#ixzz3ieCqwXym

    Germans seem a year late to ze partayyyy.

    Better late then never, I love the fact that UVZ's batmotram is half the cost of the average euro-tram, but easily several times the quality... lol1

    Actually it's 30% of Bombardiers Flexity Future. The cheapest offer is about 1.7 million euros a car from Poland (Pesa Jazz 134 - Contract with Warsaw TC at 55 million USD per 30 Trams). But again, the specs aren't anywhere near this. So that's a plus. As for several times the quality, it doesn't even need to be so. Even if the Trams are on par, that's already huge.

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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:40 am

    All of NATO knows that Russia produces nothing and does not have the knowhow to produce anything. This is just Russian
    propaganda. NATO will soon give us all the truth of the matter.

    I am eagerly waiting for this crusade of truth from NATO.

    And I am sure I will be waiting decades from now.
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    kvs wrote:All of NATO knows that Russia produces nothing and does not have the knowhow to produce anything.   This is just Russian
    propaganda.   NATO will soon give us all the truth of the matter.

    I am eagerly waiting for this crusade of truth from NATO.

    And I am sure I will be waiting decades from now.

    Careful now, we don't want you to taste Freedom (without lube). Anyway, this was bound to happen, the only thing that worries me is the damn quality control. If that's covered, who cares if the car is overengineered. If the Chinese have contracted it, it might actually have a nice portfolio soon enough.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:49 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:All of NATO knows that Russia produces nothing and does not have the knowhow to produce anything.   This is just Russian
    propaganda.   NATO will soon give us all the truth of the matter.

    I am eagerly waiting for this crusade of truth from NATO.

    And I am sure I will be waiting decades from now.

    Careful now, we don't want you to taste Freedom (without lube). Anyway, this was bound to happen, the only thing that worries me is the damn quality control. If that's covered, who cares if the car is overengineered. If the Chinese have contracted it, it might actually have a nice portfolio soon enough.

    Toronto's fancy new streetcars back in the 1980s had rather serious quality control issues. The only thing
    that matters is that they are fixable and in a reasonable time frame. If the cars fall apart after a couple of
    years of use, then they are crap. But I will dismiss this scenario out of hand. UVZ is not in the business of
    shaving mm of steel to save a few bucks at the expense of part integrity. The new rage in the west.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:57 am

    kvs wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:All of NATO knows that Russia produces nothing and does not have the knowhow to produce anything.   This is just Russian
    propaganda.   NATO will soon give us all the truth of the matter.

    I am eagerly waiting for this crusade of truth from NATO.

    And I am sure I will be waiting decades from now.

    Careful now, we don't want you to taste Freedom (without lube). Anyway, this was bound to happen, the only thing that worries me is the damn quality control. If that's covered, who cares if the car is overengineered. If the Chinese have contracted it, it might actually have a nice portfolio soon enough.

    Toronto's fancy new streetcars back in the 1980s had rather serious quality control issues.   The only thing
    that matters is that they are fixable and in a reasonable time frame.   If the cars fall apart after a couple of
    years of use, then they are crap.   But I will dismiss this scenario out of hand.   UVZ is not in the business of
    shaving mm of steel to save a few bucks at the expense of part integrity.   The new rage in the west.

    Same here, the difference in price is big, but doesn't seem to indicate the carboard trams and trains initially from China. As i said, there's good chance that the R1 is overengineered, rather than crap. So instead of shaving, the tram's rolling train might actually be tractor tough.

    Interior pics...

    http://blog.rcp.fr/?p=2299

    Moar Pics. http://varlamov.ru/1112328.html
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    Post  Maximmmm on Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:05 am

    Speaking of public transport, I was thoroughly impressed with the quality of the wifi in transit. The moscow subway now has wifi in all trains and is testing it in some stations. It works really well, sadly there are shitty ads (weren't there last year), but they're tolerable. Now the plans are for wifi in every bus, tram and bus stop which is impressive as hell. The amount of wifi in public places such as parks is also incredible.

    As for the busses/wagons themselves, although I've seen some of the newest tech around when I was in the city, a large proportion is still old soviet-built stock. It was actually very funny to see ancient trolleybusses with digitized bus number plates and new tourniquets for the bus cards.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:20 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:All of NATO knows that Russia produces nothing and does not have the knowhow to produce anything.   This is just Russian
    propaganda.   NATO will soon give us all the truth of the matter.

    I am eagerly waiting for this crusade of truth from NATO.

    And I am sure I will be waiting decades from now.

    Careful now, we don't want you to taste Freedom (without lube). Anyway, this was bound to happen, the only thing that worries me is the damn quality control. If that's covered, who cares if the car is overengineered. If the Chinese have contracted it, it might actually have a nice portfolio soon enough.

    Toronto's fancy new streetcars back in the 1980s had rather serious quality control issues.   The only thing
    that matters is that they are fixable and in a reasonable time frame.   If the cars fall apart after a couple of
    years of use, then they are crap.   But I will dismiss this scenario out of hand.   UVZ is not in the business of
    shaving mm of steel to save a few bucks at the expense of part integrity.   The new rage in the west.

    Same here, the difference in price is big, but doesn't seem to indicate the carboard trams and trains initially from China. As i said, there's good chance that the R1 is overengineered, rather than crap. So instead of shaving, the tram's rolling train might actually be tractor tough.

    Interior pics...

    http://blog.rcp.fr/?p=2299

    Moar Pics. http://varlamov.ru/1112328.html

    Well we are talking about UVZ here, they have a very good track record in quality control. If it's over-engineered as you say, all that means is that they can market less fancy and yet significantly cheaper versions of the R1 to poorer countries in Africa, Asia, Latin America, etc.
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    Re: Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

    Post  Ivan the Colorado on Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:25 am

    Maximmmm wrote:Speaking of public transport, I was thoroughly impressed with the quality of the wifi in transit. The moscow subway now has wifi in all trains and is testing it in some stations. It works really well, sadly there are shitty ads (weren't there last year), but they're tolerable. Now the plans are for wifi in every bus, tram and bus stop which is impressive as hell. The amount of wifi in public places such as parks is also incredible.

    As for the busses/wagons themselves, although I've seen some of the newest tech around when I was in the city, a large proportion is still old soviet-built stock. It was actually very funny to see ancient trolleybusses with digitized bus number plates and new tourniquets for the bus cards.
    When were you in Moskva, Maxim? I went to Russia for two weeks in June. I managed to spend the last day at the Army-2015 expo in Kubinka because my relatives have a dacha there. I was thoroughly impressed with the improvements in infrastructure that I saw in Moskva and in Nizhniy Novogorod as well. I have been visiting Russia ever since the early 2000's when I was very young. The improvements over the years are nothing short of astounding and it will be interesting to watch the developments that will come on the near future especially with the World Cup coming.

    And to all talking about the R1 tram. No, it is not over-engineered. While it does look very pretty on the outside, the internals of the tram are nothing revolutionary but rather evolutionary.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:19 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    kvs wrote:All of NATO knows that Russia produces nothing and does not have the knowhow to produce anything.   This is just Russian
    propaganda.   NATO will soon give us all the truth of the matter.

    I am eagerly waiting for this crusade of truth from NATO.

    And I am sure I will be waiting decades from now.

    Careful now, we don't want you to taste Freedom (without lube). Anyway, this was bound to happen, the only thing that worries me is the damn quality control. If that's covered, who cares if the car is overengineered. If the Chinese have contracted it, it might actually have a nice portfolio soon enough.

    Toronto's fancy new streetcars back in the 1980s had rather serious quality control issues.   The only thing
    that matters is that they are fixable and in a reasonable time frame.   If the cars fall apart after a couple of
    years of use, then they are crap.   But I will dismiss this scenario out of hand.   UVZ is not in the business of
    shaving mm of steel to save a few bucks at the expense of part integrity.   The new rage in the west.

    Same here, the difference in price is big, but doesn't seem to indicate the carboard trams and trains initially from China. As i said, there's good chance that the R1 is overengineered, rather than crap. So instead of shaving, the tram's rolling train might actually be tractor tough.

    Interior pics...

    http://blog.rcp.fr/?p=2299

    Moar Pics. http://varlamov.ru/1112328.html

    Well we are talking about UVZ here, they have a very good track record in quality control. If it's over-engineered as you say, all that means is that they can market less fancy and yet significantly cheaper versions of the R1 to poorer countries in Africa, Asia, Latin America, etc.

    From the pictures the ergonomy looks pretty good and as I said, you can see the various bits of prototyping, including the seats, some finition details as well as the general ideas behind the car are sound, but still to be refined. On the other side the layout is typically on par with what you expect from Bombardier (which is basically the leading company for this). What I didn't failed to get also is the optimization of the commands and FoV for the driver. This also means that this could be governed and driven, it could well roll on it's own (depending on how it will be connected, ground line or air line).

    Here Flexity Outlook in Brussels.

    And this is R1. There's a 2.3 vs 1 million price tag battle here.

    The felt seats can be changed overnight, with different materials and still cost the same I guess.

    Very good Russian product from what I see, it would have to be tested thoroughly.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:27 pm

    Construction of Russian Section of Railway Bridge to China to Start in 2015

    Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yury Trutnev said that construction for the Russian section of the first railway bridge to cross the Amur river and connect the country with China will begin in late 2015.

    KHABAROVSK (Russia) (Sputnik) – Construction will begin in late 2015 for the Russian section of the first railway bridge to cross the Amur river and connect the country with China, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yury Trutnev said Thursday.

    "A decision was made to finance this project at the expense of the Far East Development Fund and the Russian Direct Investment Fund. A government commission session took place, the work will begin next year," Trutnev told reporters.

    He added that the construction of the Russian part of the bridge may take a year and a half.

    A Russia-China intergovernmental agreement for construction of the railway bridge was signed in 2008.

    China expects to finish the construction of its segment of the bridge by the end of 2015.

    According to Chinese estimates, the new railway bridge over the Amur River would diminish the distance for shipments through China's Heilongjiang province to Russia.

    Earlier reports suggest that, as of April 2015, China invested around 952 million yuan into the project, with total investment expected to be 2.64 billion yuan ($426 million).

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    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:48 pm

    Kuril Islands Development Program Provides Opportunities for Investors

    Developing the Kuril Islands is very profitable, a Russian official told Sputnik.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The federal program for the development of Russia's Kuril Islands for the period between 2016 and 2025 includes opportunities for domestic and foreign investors, the deputy minister for the Development of the Russian Far East, Artur Niyazmetov, told Sputnik on Wednesday.

    On Monday, the Russian government adopted the development program with an overall budget of over 60 billion rubles ($940 million) allocated for the islands. The program includes 9.3 billion rubles of foreign investment.

    "The ministry [for the Development of the Russian Far East] is open to any proposals, including from the investors from the Asian-Pacific region," Niyazmetov said.

    The federal development program stipulates the construction of 123,000 square meters (1.3 million square feet) of housing and social infrastructure, the modernization of transport systems and the expansion of telecommunications.

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    Post  Maximmmm on Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:42 pm

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    When were you in Moskva, Maxim? I went to Russia for two weeks in June. I managed to spend the last day at the Army-2015 expo in Kubinka because my relatives have a dacha there. I was thoroughly impressed with the improvements in infrastructure that I saw in Moskva and in Nizhniy Novogorod as well. I have been visiting Russia ever since the early 2000's when I was very young. The improvements over the years are nothing short of astounding and it will be interesting to watch the developments that will come on the near future especially with the World Cup coming.

    And to all talking about the R1 tram. No, it is not over-engineered. While it does look very pretty on the outside, the internals of the tram are nothing revolutionary but rather evolutionary.

    I was in Russia all of July and a week of August. Mostly on the black sea though. Stayed in Moscow a bit on my way in and the way back.

    In a related topic: I took the overnight train up from Novorossiysk to Moscow (#30 if anybody cares), which was also my first ever long train ride (>4hr), here's my thoughts...
    The ride was surprisingly awesome, the #30 route is the shortest of the available trains (22h total vs 1d 12h for the longest) and is a so-called "firmenniy" train so the quality is supposed to be better than average.
    I rode in a 4 person coupe. The wagons all had aircon which was good but had a nasty habit of either working a bit too actively or a bit weakly. As long as you have a sweater and socks prepped, you'll be fine.
    The beds all had fresh linens and were surprisingly comfortable, I slept pretty well. The wagons themselves were amazingly quiet, you could barely hear the train move. In fact, the movement of the train itself was so smooth that most of the time I missed when we stopped at stations because the acceleration & deceleration was hardly noticeable.
    Toilets all had running water, plenty of paper towels&napkins and were cleaned during the trip. No problems there.
    The food was pretty pathetic, a yoghurt and grenola bar for dinner and some pasta(?)(had literally no taste at all) and a piece of nondescript meat for breakfast. That was it.
    Then again, if you come prepared with food of your own, you'll be more than fine. Each wagon has a hot water dispenser that I used for plenty of tea and doshirak, so I was quite well-fed and comfortable. If you care to spend money you can go order food in the restaurant car, which I didn't do.

    The train rolls into Kazansky railway station which is probably the nicest in Moscow. It looks great on the inside and outside and is pretty easy to get to.

    Price was around 5300 roubles, which is a bit steep (plane tickets were 7200), but in the peak of the season when air tickets are scarce and way more expensive it's a pretty good option.

    Overall the trip really did away with some of the old stereotypes of Russian railways, sure there's still old non-firmenniy trains running around with terrible conditions, but if you care to look you'll find something that is more than tolerable.

    One thing I have to say about roads. Moscow is now completely decked out with good roads, as for the provinces...
    I stayed in a resort town on the black sea and the roads were pretty much unchanged from 10 years ago. Even worse was the attitude of the drivers, fucking knuckleheads all around, especially the ones from the caucasus. Cops stand nearby not giving a single fuck. Frankly the regional government needs to get off its ass and do what they did in Moscow: Massive and actively enforced fines. It's quite a turn of events when the drivers in Moscow are kinder and gentler than in the rest of the country.

    Also as a side-note. The all-access transit cards that are now in use in moscow (metro/tram/bus/aeroexpress) are awesome. Cheap and very pleasant to use.

    Last side-note: I was stopped by cops in a subway station to be a witness to an arrest. Myself being a kid of the 90s in the far-east I had a little bit of an internal freakout when it happened. I worried over nothing, the cops were super kind, apologized for the delay, thanked me for the help and gave me a free entrance to the metro after. For somebody who hadn't had any interaction with cops since the early 2000's the change was absolutely staggering. I'm not kidding when I say that I was amazed for a long time afterwards. Maybe it's just the capital, but holy hell was it a different experience than back in the day.
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    Post  zg18 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:56 pm

    New infrastructure to serve needs Ust-Luga port and new money squeezed out from Baltic neighbours pockets.....

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