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    EU abolishes visas for Serbian citizens

    Post  Jelena on Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:35 am

    EU abolishes visas for Serbian citizens


    BRUSSELS, November 30 (Tanjug) - The European Union (EU) abolished visas for the citizens of Serbia on Monday.

    The decision was brought by the EU Council of Ministers for Interior and Justice, and it will come into effect on December 19.

    According to the decision, the citizens will be able to travel visa-free to the countries of the Schengen zone as of December 19, and they will be allowed to stay there for the period of 90 days, at the most.

    The EU Ministers of Justice and Interior abolished the visas for the citizens of Serbia, Macedonia and Montrenegro.

    As far as Albania and Bosnia-Herzegovina are concerned, the ministers backed in principal their support for visa liberalisation for those countries as well, but pointed out, however, that they first had to fulfill their obligations to that effect.

    When it comes to Kosovo and Metohija, the ministers concluded that the issue of visa relaxation could not be considered, since Kosovo-Metohija, which had unilaterally declared its independence, had not been recognized by all the member states.


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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Jelena on Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:31 am

    Since EU lifted visa restrictions on Serbia we already have a problems...


    Serbia Snubs Albanians Seeking Visa-Free Travel


    Bujanovac | 04 December 2009 | By Jeton Ismaili

    EU decision to lift visa restrictions on Serbian citizens is prompting Kosovo Albanians to claim they live in South Serbia, so they can access the benefits – but very few succeed.

    Leon Osmani, aged 30, was born in South Serbia but has been living with his family in the Kosovo capital of Pristina for the last 25 years.

    Ever since he heard the news that Brussels proposed to lift the requirement for Serbian citizens to obtain visas for the Schengen zone, he has been trying to change address.

    He filed a request with the police in Serbia to change his official residence to his grandfather’s home in the mainly Albanian town of Bujanovac in Southern Serbia.

    “They accepted my documentation as valid but my request was denied, oddly enough,” Osmani complains. The official explanation was that the data submitted in his request was incorrect.

    Osmani is not the only Albanian in Kosovo trying to claim residence in Serbia as a result of the EU decision.
    The reason is that the EU decision on November 30 to lift the Schengen visa regime on certain countries in the Western Balkans is highly selective.

    It applies to Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro but not to Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo or Albania. Kosovo unilaterally proclaimed independence from Serbia in 2008. Its independence has been recognised by 22 EU states and 63 countries worldwide, but is contested by Serbia.

    The new visa regime does not even apply to residents of Kosovo who have Serbian biometric passports.

    That is why an increasing number of people from Kosovo have been trying to exchange addresses in Kosovo for official residence in Presevo and Bujanovac, two Albanian-majority municipalities in Southern Serbia.

    Police in Presevo and Bujanovac say the largest number of applications has come from people born in Southern Serbia who later moved to Kosovo. But the list of applicants also includes people who never lived in Southern Serbia.

    Most requests get nowhere. The police, working under the Serbian Interior Ministry, usually turn them down, saying they do not believe these applicants have any intention of permanently residing or working in Serbia.

    Eshref Duraku is one of the disappointed applicants. Coming from Gnjilan, in southeast Kosovo, he had no prior connection to Southern Serbia but says a man from Bujanovac agreed to register him at his own address as a subtenant.

    “My only goal was to get a Serbian passport to use the right to travel without a visa regime,” he admits. “I wanted to visit relatives in Austria and find a job there.” He did not succeed. Police in the nearest big town in Southern Serbia, Vranje, denied his request for permanent resident status in Bujanovac.

    Jonuz Musliu, speaker of the Bujanovac local assembly, is not concerned about the plight of born Kosovars who want to apply for residence in Serbia.

    But he insists that the de facto ban on citizens born in Bujanovac and Presevo from obtaining permanent residence there having lived elsewhere for a time is discriminatory.

    "Everyone born in a said place has the right to return and live there," Musliu says, concerning the residence requests made by ethnic Albanians who now live in Kosovo but were born in Serbia.

    Stojanca Arsic, a leading Serbian deputy in the Bujanovac local assembly, defends Belgrade’s stance, however.
    “The competent authorities are only acting in accordance with the law,” he said. “An actual intention to change residence must be proven.”

    Asked by Balkan Insight to clarify the basis on which the police refuse to register new residence applications for the municipalities of Southern Serbia, police in Vranje quoted Article 4 of the Act on Residence and Dwelling. This defines residence as a place where a citizen is accommodated with an intention of staying for good.

    “Article 5 of the same act says that when changing residence, citizens are obliged to submit correct data,” the police said in a written reply.

    “Having in mind that a lot of requests for a change of residence have been submitted lately - not with the intention of permanent residence - in order to prevent registering fictitious addresses… the competent authorities are entitled to decide whether a person has filed a request in order to get a job, get married or something similar, and if the conditions have not been met, the request will be denied," the written response added.

    Zorica Kasalica, a senior official in the ministry of interior, in a written response to Balkan Insight, said citizens when registering a place of residence, were obliged to offer proof that they permanently lived in the place in which they had applied to reside.

    "If it is established that the citizen has no intention of living where he applied for residence, the request is denied," the ministry’s written response to Balkan Insight said. Kasalica maintained that an applicant’s ethnic background was of no relevance to the procedure. Only the documentary evidence that was submitted was taken into consideration.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:51 am

    Who the hell wants more Kosovar refugees? All they do is bring organised crime.

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    Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:23 pm

    Serbia’s future is with EU and NATO - Rasmussen

    BELGRADE, July 6 (Itar-Tass) - NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in an interview with the Beta news agency in Brussels on Friday that Serbia’s future was with the European Union and NATO.

    In his view, Belgrade’s stronger ties with the European Union and NATO should be the main strategic goal for Serbia.

    Rasmussen said that he understood the negative attitude which many Serbians had to the alliance, which had bombarded that Balkan state for 78 days in 1999. He added that a lot had changed since then and that all peoples in the region now considered NATO to be an unbiased guarantor of peace and stability.

    "That is why I am sure that Serbia’s future is closely linked with the Euro-Atlantic perspective,” Rasmussen emphasized.

    Rasmussen’s remarks have outraged some Serbian politicians. The Democratic Party of Serbia led by Vojislav Kostunica has described them as mean. “Rasmussen knows very well that Serbia proclaimed military neutrality in 2007. Nevertheless, he is trying to drag our country into NATO,” Kostunica’s party said in a statement released in Belgrade on Friday.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:56 pm

    Ramusen is a funny funny guy. Very Happy

    He most probably panicked when he saw how Serbia is buying all Russian weapons, China is donating some military/medic equipment and joining CSTO as observer

    and their military leadership is spending more time in Russia and China than even at home.

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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:20 pm

    I thought Serbia population was more pro-Russia then EU , so surprised they would join NATO or EU.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:24 pm

    Austin wrote:I thought Serbia population was more pro-Russia then EU , so surprised they would join NATO or EU.


    NATO is out of any question in any equation.  EU is not. Still you must consider that corrupt political elite is one thing and people will another.

    In Croatia for instance there was a price of 1500 Euro for any man (no matter how many people and article) that could find in any newspaper any article that

    says even slightest bit against EU (for years before we entered EU) and like that was not enough, our political elite changed Croatian constitution so EU "referendum"

    could pass. Thats how its done. Now they enjoy paycheck of 10000 - 20000 Euro.

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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:48 pm

    Considering the financial mess that EU is in right now and will be so for many years to come I dont see the advantage of joining EU.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:55 pm

    Austin wrote:Considering the financial mess that EU is in right now and will be so for many years to come I dont see the advantage of joining EU.

    I agree. I read few days ago that one Greece hospital did not want to give a child to a woman after she gave birth because she did not have 2000E for hospital

    expense. Of course you wont find such news in mainstream media. In mainstream media all is fine.

    On the other hand 67% of young people in Greece does not work and much better is not in Portugal, Spain, Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Ireland etc etc ...

    Even France and Germany are having troubles with their own economy. I really dont see anything positive happening.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:35 am

    This is nothing to do with Serbia, this is just the opinion of a guy that clearly doesn't know or care about his subject matter... clearly a politician.

    It is sad when they actually believe their own BS.

    Serbia might one day want to join the EU for economic reasons, but I rather doubt there is any reason for them to send troops to Afghanistan or the next hot spot for Europe.

    The irony is that this guy thinks NATO has been "fair" to Serbia since they ruthlessly bombed the country... it seems to me that the Hague trials were the Serb trials in which Serbs got time and other nationalities including Kosovo human traffickers got off free.

    Must be a special meaning of the word Fair. Rolling Eyes 


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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:27 am

    GarryB wrote:The irony is that this guy thinks NATO has been "fair" to Serbia since they ruthlessly bombed the country... it seems to me that the Hague trials were the Serb trials in which Serbs got time and other nationalities including Kosovo human traffickers got off free.

    Must be a special meaning of the word Fair.  Rolling Eyes 

    Might makes right, as they say

    And Rasmussen is a comedian all right
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Regular on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:35 am

    OK, I might understand why my country joined NATO, but what about Serbia? An organisation that was a tool of ripping Serbian part out and giving to an enemy.
    EU might be more reasonable choice, but it's too late for party. No free champaign for You Serbia. EU is in deep shit because it needs to define it's principle and... Well - get smaller.


    And someone mentioned how hard is to live in Greece, boo hoo, all those unemployed rioters are lazy "cunts" can always emigrate rather than feeding on social welfare. You don't see us Eastern Europeans protesting or living with babushkas till the age of 25 while feeding on their pensions. Can't find a job? Leave the country, get further education and comeback when You are ready without being an useless number in unemployed chart. Irish are not doing too good as well, but hell they are everywhere, working in New Zealand, Australia and all common wealth countries.
    Greeks deserve what they got, EU should drop them out like flies from soup. Spain, Italy should get the warning.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:50 am

    Like mentioned earlier, Serbia, with all promises given to it regarding joining EU/NATO, and nothing of fruit popping up, is looking for re-initializing relations with Russia.  Recently, they want to purchase MiG-29M2 and upgrade their current MiG-29's.  As well, I believe more businesses from Russia are propping up in Serbia.  Russia could certainly get good investments from Serbia, especially in the military field (Serbia's quality of tanks and small arms, to optics were quite good compared to Soviet ones at the time), and as well, Serbian's are quite smart people, thus they could get quite the educated workforce to create technologies that would be useful for Russia.  Serbia is an untapped potential for many countries, and Russia should try harder in cooperating with Serbia, even get them to join CSTO and economic union.

    Only leadership of the country would be interested in reconciling with NATO, especially since quite a few of people seem to still be quite upset with the 72h bombing of Belgrad and the unfair so called "justice" from the Hague.
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    How US is mulling to destroy completly Serbia: remove Vojvodina

    Post  nemrod on Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:47 pm

    As we've seen in a previous discussions, US imperialist behaviour consider that all richnesses belonging to another country are their own. All countries that has confidences in US will never win. Why ? Because it is not politic leaded by american people, but by the ennemy of US people. The oligarchs that have the power in USA. These oligarchs are ennemy not only to US people, but they are ennemy to the world wide.
    Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, Muamar Ghadaffi, Yasser Arafat, the Shah of Iran, Ukraine's stupids politicians,  all believed in US, but all lost. US are mulling to to destroy Serbia by cutting again its terroritory. In Vojvodina they discovered huge oil reserves. As in Ukraine, as in Greece, as in Syria, US want them.
    In Ukraine, and in Syria, in Iran, in Venezuala, in North Korea, people, politicians revolted against US imperialist stance, and they are winning. And, now what are going to do serbian politicians in order to save their country ? Did they prepare ? What about their Air forces ? What about their army ? Are they ready to resist ? In Greece, the wind of revolt is arising, let's hope for Serbia too. I hope, I won't see the end of Serbia. What will do serbian people ?

    Serbia cutting again, this time US want to remove Vojvodina.






    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/02/15/brussels-next-balkans-ersatz-state-vojvodina.html


    Brussels’s Next Balkans Ersatz State: Vojvodina
    Wayne MADSEN | 15.02.2015 | 00:00


    If the Brussels-based European Union and NATO have their way, the Serbian province of Vojvodina will join Kosovo, previously carved by the European Union and NATO from Serbia as an ethnic Albanian state run by the terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), as the next ersatz independent state in the Balkans.

    After witnessing Kosovo province carved out of it by NATO troops as a result of European Union machinations, Serbia now stands to lose the fertile Danube basin province of Vojvodina to the border changers in Brussels. If recent comments by former NATO Assistant Secretary General for Public Diplomacy and incoming Croatian President Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic are any indication, Croatia will soon serve as a bulwark in NATO’s plans to wrest control of Vojvodina from Serbia and declare it a multi-ethnic and multi-lingual independent «homeland» for Hungarians, Roma, Slovaks, Croatians, Romanians, as well as newly-arrived Albanian refugees being bussed into the region by the EU from the southern parts of what was once Yugoslavia.

    Already, Vojvodina is being referred to by Soros-financed media and NGOs as the «Hungarian Kosovo,» even though 66 percent of the population of the province is Serbian. With 25 ethnic groups, Vojvodina is one of the most ethnically-diverse regions in Europe. For the NATO war planners and Soros demographic engineers, Vojvodina represents a fertile ground for ethnic conflict and further «Balkanization» of the Balkans.

    Hungarians make up only 13 percent of the population while Croats come in at 2.7 percent and Slovaks at 2.6 percent. Soros and neo-con media manipulators have called for Vojvodina to become a homeland for the Roma («gypsy» people. However, the Roma constitute a mere 2.1 percent of the population. Romanian irredentist designs on Vojvodina are laughable when one considers that Romanians represent a tiny 1.3 percent of Vojvodina’s population. Bunjevci (akin to Croats) and Rusyns represent even less of the total population.

    After defeating incumbent Croatian president Ivo Josipovic in a dubious razor-thin - some would say a George Soros-style 50-49 percent «engineered» - margin of victory, Grabar-Kitarovic wasted no time in laying down the gauntlet to Serbia in her victory speech. She said that she would fight for the autonomy of Croats in Vojvodina, «code» for supporting the secession of the region from Serbia. Grabar-Kitarovic also announced that she would restore Croatia’s close relations with Germany, no surprise given the historical ties of Grabar-Kitarovic’s Croatian Democratic Union (HDZ) party to Croatian Nazi Ustashe who set up a puppet state under the Third Reich. Grabar-Kitarovic’s irredentism with regard to Croatians in Vojvodina, especially in the Croat-majority Srem district, and Herzegovina, in what is Bosnia-Herzegovina, represents what is called «neo-Ustashism» – extreme nationalism - in today’s Croatia.

    Grabar-Kitarovic also reacted negatively to the recent decision by the International Court of Justice in The Hague which tossed out Croatia’s claim against Serbia of committing genocide in the 1991-95 war between Croatia and what was then the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia dominated by Serbia. The ICJ also dismissed Serbia’s counter-claim against Croatia which arose from charges of genocide committed by Croatian forces, backed by U.S. mercenaries, in Operation Storm. The blitzkrieg by Croatian forces and their American advisers against the Serbian Republic of Krajina in eastern Croatia was aimed at ethnically-cleansing Serbs from Croatia’s eastern regions.

    And in yet another example of the close ties between neo-Nazism and Zionism, Grabar-Kitarovic’s presidential political adviser and the head of her transition team is documentary film maker Jadranka Juresko Kero, yet another American implant in Eastern European governance structures and an individual who avidly supports Israel and the Zionist cause. Juresko Kero has been a denizen of Manhattan’s Upper East Side since 1999 and she is married to It is known that if the HDZ is triumphant in the next parliamentary election, Grabar-Kitarovic wants Juresko Kero to serve as her prime minister, giving the nation a governing female duo. While she was ambassador to the United States, Grabar-Kitarovic arranged for sweetheart trade deals between the large Croatian food manufacturing company Podravka and U.S. distributors of, among other products, Croatian beef goulash and chicken paté. It just so happens that Podravka’s North American operations are headed up by Juresko Kero’s husband, Domagoj Kero, the former Croatian Consul General in New York.

    Grabar-Kitarovic and her neo-con allies are pushing the meme now heard more often in Vojvodina that the region was never historically Serbian but was part of the pre-World War I Austro-Hungarian Empire. And in a repeat of what occurred in eastern Ukraine after the joint neo-Nazi/Zionist putsch against the democratically-elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych, the Serbian language and the Cyrillic alphabet in Vojvodina are being eclipsed by a desire by non-Serbs to re-brand Vojvodina as a Hungarian-Germanic nation that uses the Roman alphabet. In this, the Vojvodina separatists have the overt support of Hungarian nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban and the new ethnic German president of Romania, Klaus Iohannis.

    The signs that Vojvodina is the next target for the neo-conservative-George Soros alliance is clear. The European Union is relocating Albanians from Kosovo, Macedonia, and Montenegro to Vojvodina. Once they arrive at Novi Sad, the major city of Vojvodina, EU interlocutors give the Albanians 35 euros for taxi fare in order that they fan out across the province and stake a claim for permanent residency. The last census for Vojvodina showed 3,360 Muslims in Vojvodina. However, the transplant of Muslim Albanians from other parts of the former Yugoslavia by the EU is clearly aimed at providing the fuel to spark a Kosovo-like rebellion for independence.

    All the various Soros and neo-con constructs are hyper-active in Vojvodina. These include the National Endowment for Democracy and Soros’s Open Society Institute. Bojan Pajtić, the president of the Vojvodina provincial government, is a fluent Hungarian and English-speaker who finds himself at home with the Soros and Central Intelligence Agency-financed NGO operatives in the province who work closely with U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, the person who helped shepherd Grabar-Kitarovic to victory in Croatia and who stands ready to launch a Vojvodina war for independence among recently-arrived professional provocateurs from Romania, Hungary, Albania, and Roma camps in the Balkans.

    If Ukraine is any example, what Nuland and her neocons have in store for Vojvodina will cleanse the province of its Serbs and provide a friendly country for Western oil and natural gas companies to exploit known reserves of the hydrocarbons in eastern Vojvodina, an area known as Banat.

    Just as Kosovo was carved from Serbia to facilitate a trans-Balkan pipeline and provide the United State a permanent Balkans military base at Camp Bondsteel, an independent Vojvodina is designed to provide NATO with a ready supply of oil and natural gas from Banat and a fertile Danube valley for the production of genetically-modified foods. Like Ukraine, Vojvodina is being targeted by the Western military-commercial complex for hydrocarbon fracking and Monsanto agri-exploitation.

    What is taking place in Vojvodina is nothing less than demographic engineering. There is an attempt to marginalize Vojvodina’s Serbian population much in the way that Serbs living in enclaves of Zubin Potok, Zvečan, Kosovska Mitrovica, and Leposavić in northern Kosovo were all-but-forgotten in the EU’s rush to declare Kosovo an independent Albanian state.

    Today, NATO and other Western provocateurs have put the Ukrainian cities of Lugansk, Donetsk, and Mariupol on the front pages of the world’s newspapers as killing zones. If neocon she-devils like Grabar-Kitarovic, Juresko Kero, and Nuland have their way, tomorrow’s blood bath stories will be datelined Novi Sad, Sremska Mitrovica, Kanjiza, and Subotica, cities that sit astride ethnic fault lines in Vojvodina.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  max steel on Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:07 pm

    This thought appeared way back in 2004 i guess . No progress on it yet .
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:17 pm

    Serbia to Stay Out of NATO Despite Broader Cooperation

    Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said that Serbia is not going to join NATO, but Serbia wants partner relations with the alliance member states that surround the country.

    BELGRADE (Sputnik) — Serbia has no plans to join NATO despite signing an Individual Partnership Action Plan (IPAP) with the North Atlantic Alliance earlier this year, Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said on Tuesday in an exclusive interview with Sputnik Serbia.

    "We are not going to join NATO, but because we are surrounded by the Alliance member states, we want partner relations [with them]. And it is important that these relations should be sincere," Dacic said.

    The foreign minister added that NATO was an "important factor of stability" in the Balkans but Serbian citizens were opposed to joining the Alliance in light of the heavy NATO bombing of now-defunct Yugoslavia in 1999.

    Serbia, which pursues a policy of military neutrality, finalized their IPAP agreement with NATO in January.

    Serbia and other former Yugoslavia republics are part of the NATO Partnership for Peace program to create trust between NATO and other European states, as well as with those of the former Soviet Union.

    Serbia is also an observer state in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization and an associate member in the NATO Parliamentary Assembly.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150407/1020563443.html#ixzz3Wel73pzI
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  George1 on Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:13 pm

    Biden Calls Serbian PM to Washington to Counter Cooperation with Russia

    The US Vice President issued a hasty invitation for the Serbian Premier to come to Washington, after the Serbian government's decision to attend the May 9 Victory Day parade in Moscow.

    US Vice President Joe Biden sped up the process of issuing an invitation to Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic to come to Washington, after the decision by the Serbian government to take part in the May 9 Victory Day commemoration in Moscow, which this year will mark 70 years since the surrender of Nazi Germany at the end of World War Two.

    Sources in western diplomatic circles told Blic.rs that the timescale of Vucic's visit to Washington, which was already slated for the coming year, was pushed forward due to US fears about Serbia's close ties and continued cooperation with Russia.

    According to the paper, the call is a reflection of a recent statement from US Secretary of State John Kerry that Serbia is "in the line of fire" between the West and Russia.

    "Visits by international leaders to Washington are usually planned around six months in advance," a diplomatic source told Blic, noting that the US ambassador to Serbia extended the invitation to Vucic on April 9. Biden's plan, however, "would see Vucic in Washington in May, or the beginning of June."

    According to the source, the catalyst for Biden's hasty invitation to Washington is the decision by Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic to accept Russia's invitation to attend the May 9 celebrations and the president's April 6 announcement that members of the Serbian armed forces would also take part in the parade on Red Square.

    The formal invitation to Washington follows a verbal invitation Biden gave Vucic at last month's Munich Security Conference last month, when Biden also, according to local media, proposed the institution of a new gas deal with Serbia, via the construction of a terminal on the Croatian island of Krk, which the US administration says would be provided with gas by ships from the US, Algeria. or Qatar.

    The proposal follows the obstruction late last year of the South Stream project, which aims to provide Serbia and other European countries with a secure supply of natural gas from Russia, using a pipeline running under the Black Sea to mainland Europe.

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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:01 pm


    This is a survey from April 2015:

    http://www.nspm.rs/istrazivanja-javnog-mnjenja/srbija-april-2015-istrazivanje-javnog-mnjenja.html



    Currently 80.6 % of Serbs are against NATO membership, while only 8,4% of Serbs are for joining NATO.

    On the other side, 61.1% favor an alliance with Russia, while 18,4% of Serbian respondents oppose it.



    In light of this data there in no further need for existence of this tread.  Twisted Evil

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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  max steel on Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:28 am

    EU Likely to Force Serbia to Implement Anti-Russia Sanctions

    Brussels is likely to force Serbia to impose sanctions against Russia if Belgrade wants more progress in EU accession negotiations, the Serbian Blic newspaper reports.

    According to Blic, Serbia hopes that EU-Russia relations will improve in the coming year and Belgrade will not have to choose between Brussels and Moscow.
    "The government in Belgrade will have to align their behavior with Brussels to a much greater extent," the newspaper cited Belgrade diplomatic sources as saying on Thursday, explaining that this means that Serbia will be asked to conform to European anti-Russia sanctions.
    Serbia applied to join the European Union in 2009, and received EU candidate status in 2012. Currently, Belgrade is in the process of negotiating its accession to the bloc.

    Serbian Finance Minister Dusan Vujovic told Sputnik last week that Serbia maintains an "equally good relationship" with both Russia and the West, despite the sanctions that the European Union and the United States have imposed against Russia, accusing Moscow of being involved in Ukraine’s internal conflict.

    Moscow has refuted Western allegations of any alleged involvement in Ukraine, stating repeatedly that the economic restrictions against Russia are counterproductive.

    Serbia has declined to join the Western sanctions introduced against Russia.
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:52 am

    max steel wrote:EU Likely to Force Serbia to Implement Anti-Russia Sanctions

    Brussels is likely to force Serbia to impose sanctions against Russia if Belgrade wants more progress in EU accession negotiations, the Serbian Blic newspaper reports.

    According to Blic, Serbia hopes that EU-Russia relations will improve in the coming year and Belgrade will not have to choose between Brussels and Moscow.
    "The government in Belgrade will have to align their behavior with Brussels to a much greater extent," the newspaper cited Belgrade diplomatic sources as saying on Thursday, explaining that this means that Serbia will be asked to conform to European anti-Russia sanctions.
    Serbia applied to join the European Union in 2009, and received EU candidate status in 2012. Currently, Belgrade is in the process of negotiating its accession to the bloc.

    Serbian Finance Minister Dusan Vujovic told Sputnik last week that Serbia maintains an "equally good relationship" with both Russia and the West, despite the sanctions that the European Union and the United States have imposed against Russia, accusing Moscow of being involved in Ukraine’s internal conflict.

    Moscow has refuted Western allegations of any alleged involvement in Ukraine, stating repeatedly that the economic restrictions against Russia are counterproductive.

    Serbia has declined to join the Western sanctions introduced against Russia.

    Yeah, good luck with that.... lol1

    EU is not getting more popular here, more likely exactly the opposite.

    We did not put up any sanctions when Ukropistan was novahot news, we sure as shit will not be putting any now when everyone forgot about that crap hole.

    Not to mention the fact that EU itself will be dropping sanctions pretty soon. This is just liberals shitting trough their mouths as usual...
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:42 pm

    Serbia to Take Part in NATO Drills With Russian Weapons

    As Serbia has signed an agreement with Moscow to buy Russian weapons, Serbian soldiers are preparing to participate in US-led NATO drills. Serbia’s policy of balancing between Russia and the West is due the country’s doctrine of military neutrality adopted in 2007. However, experts say that sooner or later Belgrade will have to choose a side.

    During his visit to Moscow, Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic reached an agreement with Moscow on the purchase of Russian weapons. At the same time, Serbian troops are getting ready to participate in a NATO military exercise in Germany.

    Experts say military ties with Russia will not endanger Serbia’s European perspective, but warn that balancing between Moscow and the West cannot be a long-term policy.

    Serbia’s decision to buy Russian arms will not be a great concern for the EU as Serbian officials have repeatedly said that EU membership remains the strategic goal, Zoran Dragisic, a security studies professor in Belgrade, told Balkan Insight.

    "Serbian officials have told the same thing to their Russian partners. However, Serbia is not a member of the EU at the moment and is trying to sit in two chairs. I do not think it is possible in the long run," he said.

    Military analyst Aleksandar Radic also said that the purchase of Russian weapons by Serbia is unlikely to worsen relations with the West.

    "There is no need to think it will worsen our relations with the EU because Serbia cooperates with NATO a lot more than it does with Russia when it comes to military drills and equipment," Radic was quoted as saying by Balkan Insight.

    According to Vucic, Serbia intends to buy Russian weapons and military equipment to maintain "a security balance" in the region, after Croatia purchased new military hardware.

    However, Vucic underscored that Serbia will not buy offensive weapons.

    According to the Russian newspaper Kommersant, Russian and Serbian officials signed a memorandum of understanding that will allow Russia to intensify its arms supplies to Serbia.

    At the same time, nearly 100 Serbian infantry troops are getting ready to take part in a US-led NATO drill in Germany. Soldiers from Albania, Bulgaria, Romania, Montenegro and Slovenia will also join the exercise.

    Not everyone believes that new military deals with Russia are good for Serbia, the article read.

    The Center for Euro-Atlantic Studies, a Belgrade think tank, urged the Serbian government not to sign any economic agreement with Moscow which could violate Western anti-Russian sanctions imposed over the Ukrainian crisis. Such agreement would endanger the negotiation process on Serbia’s EU membership.

    "One should not forget that even some NATO country members, which were the members of the Warsaw pact, still have Russian weapons as well. Replacing the weapons is an expensive and timely process. Bulgaria, Hungary and the Czech Republic have yet to do so, therefore no one can expect Serbia to do it," Dragisic told Balkan Insight.

    In 2007, Serbia adopted a military neutrality doctrine, and the government has no plans to change it.

    Defense Minister Bratislav Gasic said the Serbian army tries to run a balanced policy of military and international cooperation.

    "We have had joint exercises with the Russians and with NATO, and our military personnel underwent training programs both in Russia and in the US," Gasic told the Serbian daily Blic in August.

    However, Dragisic underscored that cannot be a long-term policy.

    "We will soon find ourselves in a situation where we will have to clearly choose sides," he concluded.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151102/1029465923/serbia-nato-drills-russian-weapons.html#ixzz3qKyCwVUC


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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  Project Canada on Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:23 pm

    I wonder, does NATO have some sort of mind control weapon that they use on their victims? NATO bombed Serbia in 99 and now Serbia is joining NATO drills? Why???
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:37 pm

    Project Canada wrote:I wonder, does NATO have some sort of mind control weapon that they use on their victims? NATO bombed Serbia in 99 and now Serbia is joining NATO drills? Why???

    It is called politics. Don't worry nobody here is in a hurry to join NATO, quite opposite in fact, read my previous posts here.

    As for drills we did the same with Russia recently, if someone does not like who we have drills with then too bad 'cause we do not give two figs about it. if North Korean Army asks to come for a visit and drills they are welcome to...

    Also, our neighbours are in NATO and we have nice military cooperation with Hungary (our guys practice together often) so there is also that. Bulgarians and Romanians stop by from time to time too...
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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:13 pm

    Serbia has no plans to join NATO — ambassador

    MOSCOW, November 3. /TASS/. Serbia does not plan to join NATO as the North Atlantic military alliance gives no guarantees of stability, ambassador to Russia Slavenko Terzic said on Tuesday.

    "I don’t see any stability guarantees in NATO’s expansion in the Balkans and in the central region of Europe," he said. "Europe must be free of military alliances, live in peace and accord," the ambassador said.

    "Serbia will insist on its political neutrality. We are not getting ready to join NATO," the envoy added.

    Focusing on events in Montenegro, he said "all protests inside the country are caused only by internal differences". "I don’t see any foreign interference in the affairs of Montenegro," he said, pointing to protests demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic.

    "These are internal protests, social and political discontent of the Montenegrin population with the existing situation. Besides, most citizens are against NATO membership," the ambassador said.


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    Re: Serbia’s relations with EU and NATO

    Post  victor1985 on Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:51 pm

    All neightbours of serbia are nato. If all yell every day "you must join us" what you believe will happen?

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