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    Ukraine army rations

    Post  Militarov on Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:19 pm



    I hope you enjoy this much as i did, i literally died laughing, Ukraine army field ration, 24h type (not sure if they field any other type tho). If someone has pictures or videos of older Ukraine army rations or some current rations different than this one please provide i am very interested.

    PS Yugoslavian army rations from 40 years ago were like 100 times better than this thing
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:36 am



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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:09 pm

    "The KrAZ-Fiona armored vehicle is now in Ukraine! It has been unveiled on August 28 during the celebration of 70th anniversary of the company. The KrAZ-6322 Fiona vehicle has been built by Kremenchug Automobile Plant in partnership with Streit Group (Canada-UAE). Fiona-APC is used for combat missions both in urban environment and over rugged terrains. The vehicle is fully armored, it is designed to protect occupants against ballistic threats from any angle. All the vehicle components have been modified to support the weight of armoring. The wheels are provided with run-flat system. The vehicle interior can be converted to meet the needs of customers. The Fiona-APC is based on the KrAZ-6322 6х6 AWD vehicle.  It is available with different engines built by various manufacturers. At customer’s request this vehicle is provided with diesel engine delivering 330 hp, the MFZ-430 clutch and the Fast Gear transmission. It features hydraulically driven rear door, search lights, electrical winch, rear view camera, turret with place provided with stowage of arms, towing hook."



    Reminds me quite alot of Serbian Lazar from the side and back.. well...anyways all of the MRAP solutions on truck chasis look alike at the end.

    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/debut-of-kraz-fiona-armored-vehicle-in-ukraine.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:28 pm

    "France may to sell Sherpa Light Scout tactical vehicle to Ukraine, reported military-informant.com. At the training center of the National Guard of Ukraine, in Kyiv in New Petrovka, Mack Defense presented – specialized tactical vehicle Shepra Light Scout. The Sherpa Light Scout (former Sherpa 2) is one of the six versions of the SHERPA LIGHT family of 4×4 tactical and light armoured vehicles developed by Renault Trucks Defense. Available in unarmoured or armoured variants (ballistic, mine and IED kits), the Scout is ideally suited for tactical missions such as scouting, patrol, convoy escort and command and liaison. It is able to transport up to 4 or 5 soldiers or a total payload of up to 4 tonnes. With its Renault MD-5 diesel engine developing 215hp..."

    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/france-may-to-sell-sherpa-light-scout-tactical-vehicle-to-ukraine.html"

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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:01 pm

    "During the latest defense exhibition in Ukraine, the Company Zhytomyr Armored Plant SE affiliated with Ukroboronprom has presented a new concept of 4x4 armoured vehicle which can use a full range of all-terrain tactical vehicle chassis. This vehicle concept is based on armoured modules which be easily integrated on a wide range of all-terrain vehicles as the GAZ-66, ZIL-131, URAL-375, MAZ) but also to foreign chassis motorized with Diesel engine.

    The vehicle shows at "Arms and Security 2015", the defense fair in Ukraine has received the name of "Ovod".The vehicle presented for the first at this event was based on GAZ-66 chassis. The GAZ-66 is a Soviet and later Russian 4x4 a off-road light military truck produced by GAZ, but the armour kit can be dapted to other vehicles in a short time (from 30 minutes to several hours). The armour provides a protection for the crew against firing of small arms 7.62mm caliber and shell splinters. The front of the vehicle is dedicated for the crew with two seats, with one single hatch on the top of the compartment. The troops compartment is at the rear of the vehicle with one single door in the middle on each side.

    The roof of the vehicle is fitted with small weapon station which is armed with a 12.7mm heavy machine gun. Multifunctionality, the possibility of quick upgrade, maintainability and the possibility of large-scale production are the main advantages of this new project. According representative of the Company, SE “Zhytomyr armored plant” can produce more than 1,100 units per year."








    Reminds me abit of what we did with Pragas in 90s...



    Source: http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/ukraine_defense_industry_develops_ovod_new_concept_of_armour_modules_for_all-terrain_vehicles_12410154.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:37 pm







    New Ukrainian armored vehicle Dozor-B sunk while crossing water obstacles during tests.
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:04 pm

    "Ukraine’s state-owned defence firm Ukroboronprom will increase weapon supplies to the Ukrainian army from next year. The company plans to increase production of the Oplot-M main battle tank – a modernized variant of the T-84 – up to 120 units annually. Ukraine and Thailand signed an agreement to extend the supply of tanks “Oplot-M”, the next batch of more than 10 main battle tank will be shipped in 2016. The Oplot-M main battle tank (MBT) is developed by Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau (KMDB) for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The MBT can destroy ground-based and low-flying, low-speed aerial targets, while offering superior protection and high mobility for troops. The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence inducted the Oplot-M MBTs into service in 2009. In September 2011, the Royal Thai Army placed an order with Ukrainian arms trading company Ukrspetzexport for 49 Oplot MBTs. The Royal Thai Army now has 5 Oplot-M in service."



    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/ukraine-to-ramp-up-oplot-m-main-battle-tank-production.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:43 am

    "Ukraine company «Ukroboronprom» showcases the new «Verba» 122 mm Multiple Rocket Launcher.

    The «Verba» MLRS developed by Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau. The «Verba» is capable of launching 122 mm rockets from launch tubes mounted on the rear of a Kraz 6×6 chassis. Weight of «Verba» MLRS is almost 20 tons, it is capable of speeds up to 85 km/h, crew 6 man."







    Really revolutionary project Very Happy

    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/ukraine-showcases-the-new-verba-122-mm-multiple-rocket-launcher.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:32 pm

    "Armored Dozor-B passed state tests and recommended to the adoption of Armed Forces of Ukraine. The “Dozor-B” reaches the speed of 120 km per hour and has a highway operating range of 700 km. The vehicle can overcome half-meter-high obstacles and its maximum roll angle is 24ᵒ. “Dozor-B” withstands the hits of armor-piercing bullets from the distance of 30 meters and 150-mm projectile wreckages, blasted within 50 meters. The hull of the armored personnel carrier has the Kevlar splinter-proof protection, to keep people inside the vehicle safe.

    The “Dozor-B” is armed with a remote controlled 12.7mm machine-gun mount, camera, thermal imagery camera with laser range-finder and a NSBT-12.7 machine gun. “Dozor-B” can hit enemy troops and lightly armored vehicles, as well as successfully fire the air targets"






    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/armored-dozor-b-passed-state-tests-and-recommended-to-the-adoption-of-armed-forces-of-ukraine.html

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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:38 pm

    Withstand a shell from a "150mm" gun, perhaps the translation meant the blast from said projectile. Impressive if it was HE and right underneath it.
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:49 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Withstand a shell from a "150mm" gun, perhaps the translation meant the blast from said projectile. Impressive if it was HE and right underneath it.

    Right term used would be "Able to withstand shell splinters from 155mm shell" distance number used has little to no value, coz it can just improve over distance of 50m and no way it can survive hit 5m away. Useless propaganda number.
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:16 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Withstand a shell from a "150mm" gun, perhaps the translation meant the blast from said projectile. Impressive if it was HE and right underneath it.

    Right term used would be "Able to withstand shell splinters from 155mm shell" distance number used has little to no value, coz it can just improve over distance of 50m and no way it can survive hit 5m away. Useless propaganda number.

    Also the bad part is that mobility kills faster than direct hits. Fragments will shred the tires and affect the axle, so basically they will save you once, INSIDE the vehicle.
    A broken down vehicle will not be able to do much more than limping, just enough to get the second salvo.
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:24 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Withstand a shell from a "150mm" gun, perhaps the translation meant the blast from said projectile. Impressive if it was HE and right underneath it.

    Right term used would be "Able to withstand shell splinters from 155mm shell" distance number used has little to no value, coz it can just improve over distance of 50m and no way it can survive hit 5m away. Useless propaganda number.

    Also the bad part is that mobility kills faster than direct hits. Fragments will shred the tires and affect the axle, so basically they will save you once, INSIDE the vehicle.
    A broken down vehicle will not be able to do much more than limping, just enough to get the second salvo.

    Generally speaking noone expects MRAP to save you from an artillery barrage, its just secondary "nice to mention" fact. But still, artillery barrages are often blind, so when they land those 5-10-15 doesnt matter, shells and you are 60m away and vehicle saved you inside even tho immobile (lets assume), id get out and kiss its tires after.

    Actually there is not much that can save you from 155mm artillery shell near hit except decent bunker/shelter.
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:32 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Withstand a shell from a "150mm" gun, perhaps the translation meant the blast from said projectile. Impressive if it was HE and right underneath it.

    Right term used would be "Able to withstand shell splinters from 155mm shell" distance number used has little to no value, coz it can just improve over distance of 50m and no way it can survive hit 5m away. Useless propaganda number.

    Also the bad part is that mobility kills faster than direct hits. Fragments will shred the tires and affect the axle, so basically they will save you once, INSIDE the vehicle.
    A broken down vehicle will not be able to do much more than limping, just enough to get the second salvo.

    Generally speaking noone expects MRAP to save you from an artillery barrage, its just secondary "nice to mention" fact. But still, artillery barrages are often blind, so when they land those 5-10-15 doesnt matter, shells and you are 60m away and vehicle saved you inside even tho immobile (lets assume), id get out and kiss its tires after.

    Actually there is not much that can save you from 155mm artillery shell near hit except decent bunker/shelter.

    It's exactly what caused a lot of Ukrainian grief. Loss of primary mobility, exposing dismounted troops to "refill".
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:20 pm

    "Ukraine is developing a new self-propelled tracked howitzer with a 155 mm gun, Air Defense Troop Commander, reported military-informant.com on Thursday.

    Development of a new self-propelled artillery is conducted according to the standards of NATO, in partnership with companies from Poland. The Ukrainian part of the project will be implemented Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau and Polish – the company Huta Stalowa Wola. The new self-propelled artillery It will be based on chassis of Ukrainian Oplot-M main tank.

    The future production batch expected in 2016. Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau, often simply called Morozov Design Bureau or abbreviated KMDB, is a state-owned company in Kharkiv, Ukraine, which designs armoured vehicles, including the T-80UD and T-84 main battle tanks, as well as military prime movers. It was responsible for many important Soviet AFVs, including the BT tank series and the T-34, T-54, and T-64 tanks. It is closely associated with the Malyshev Factory."


    Do i smell copy of AHS Krab?



    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/ukraine-is-developing-a-new-self-propelled-tracked-howitzer.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:10 pm

    "Our military need modern high-tech armament. Drones are the most important tools for the Army of XXI century, and - as promised - UKROBORONPROM will supply the Ukrainian army with this important tool,”- said the head of “Meridian” "Vyacheslav Protsenko.



    Domestic drones are compact and, therefore, low-observable. The electric propulsion system has a low noise level. The maximum height is 2 km, its speed is 120 km / h, and continuous flight lasts up to 2 hours.

    UAV does not demand special requirements for the starting platform and the take-off enhancements: It can even take off from the hand. This device can be additionally equipped with day / night vision camera with 10x zoom, multispectral and thermal imaging cameras, a high resolution camera sensor background radiation and other equipment. «Spectator» can explore and monitor water and forests, oil and gas pipelines, frontier, carry out aerial photography work and to be used for rescue operations.

    Unmanned aircraft system ground station can receive and transmit signals to the drone at the distance of 30 km. Command and telemetry channel transmits information about drone’s position, flight parameters and coordination purposes, providing programming of the UAV automatic control. Radio-controlled channel controls UAV in case satellite navigation and control target load are being suppressed. Video transmission channel transmits the image of the target load to the ground control station."


    "It is also noted that the drone is barely visible because of their size. Electric power unit has a low noise level. The maximum height of the drone is 2 km, speeds of up to 120 km/h, and the duration of continuous flight up to 2 hours.

    «Drone does not require special requirements to the launch pad and other devices for takeoff — it may start even with the hands. The device can additionally be equipped with camera day/night vision 10x zoom, thermal imaging and multispectral cameras, camera high resolution, sensor background radiation and other equipment», — stressed the source.

    In «Ukroboronprom» also noted that the Spectator can be used in civilian purposes: to scout and monitor water and forests, oil and gas pipelines, state border, to carry out the aerial photography and used in search and rescue operations. Ground station for the unmanned aircraft system provides reception and transmission of signals to the drone to a distance of 30 km. Command and telemetry channel transmits information about the position, flight parameters and target coordinates and ensures that the programming system of automatic control of unmanned aircraft.

    As reported, the inhabitant of Kiev Alexander Eremenko has developed a glider-drone, which weighs 170 grams, is controlled using the remote control, and the image from the camera (mounted on the drone) is transferred to special glasses that puts the military. «American drones are quadrocopters, which are now using our fighters are big money – 13 thousand dollars. I came up with domestic analogue — glider drone. His build is 3-4 thousand UAH. He is able to convey the image in real time at a distance of 1 kilometer is the best option, when the military carried out the liberation of a city or locality. If this drone can be changed, it can quickly and inexpensively restore it,» he said."

    Source: http://www.armyrecognition.com/january_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/ukrainian_army_will_receive_new_unmanned_aircraft_system_spectator_produced_by_ukroboronprom_10401163.html
    Source: http://en.reporter-ua.ru/ukrainian-army-will-receive-under-the-tree-domestic-drones-spectator.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:15 am

    Ukrainian BTR-3 on hulls of BTR-70s



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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:15 am

    Ukrainian BTR-4 with Deutz engine adopted by Ukrainian army

    “Ukroboronprom” signed the decision on the admission into service of the Ukrainian army BTR-4, adapted to the German Deutz engines for all NATO standards.

    The relevant document was signed by the head of the group Roman Romanov directly on one of the grounds of the Kharkiv region after the test equipment.

    Party of the new engines will be used for the assembly of armored personnel carriers BTR-3, BTR-4 and armored latest “Dozor-B.” Until now, the equipment installed outdated Russian-made engines.

    “Ukroboronprom” quickly made changes to the manufacturing process, technical documentation, so in the near future the companies of the Concern will install the engine of Deutz (NATO standards) for all domestic samples of armored vehicles.

    “German Deutz powerful, reliable, and that is very important in conditions of war, much quieter Russian engines, which were installed on armored vehicles before. Thus, the Ukrainian military will receive the best examples of ukrainian military equipment, which is established in accordance with NATO standards “, – commented Roman Romanov.

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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:34 am

    "Ukrainian company showcase a new wersion of «Varta-2» assault vehicle during «Ukrainian Defense & Security Forum 16» in Kiyv.

    The «Varta-2» is developed for the hostage rescue and effective terrorist attack suppression for «KORD» Ukrainian special forces. The new Armored Personnel Carrier (APC) intended for Special Forces, SWAT, Police and other tactical units. The «Varta» 4×4 can run at a maximum road speed of 120 km/hr with a maximum cruising range of 800 km. The turret can be mounted with a 7.62mm or 12.7mm machine gun or 40mm automatic grenade launcher. The glass turret provides 360° view for the gunner’s position, while offering all round protection from enemy fire."












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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:01 pm

    Kyiv-based PJSC Mayak plant, which is part of state-run Ukroboronprom Concern, has shipped the first batch of new Ukrainian-made 120mm M120-15 Molot (Hammer) mortars to the Ukrainian army, the Concern's press service said.

    Prior to the dispatch, the new ordnance was tested by the Defense Ministry on the Honcharivske firing range in Chernihiv region and was accepted for use by the Ukrainian armed forces.

    "The new model of the mortar has got the positive feedback from the military and technical experts. Now it may demonstrate its full capacity in real battles. Mayak plant is ready to fully meet the Ukrainian army's demand in that armament," the press service quotes Mayak Director Oleksandr Perehudov as saying.


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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:18 pm

    Ukraine test fires a new guided 300mm rocket.

    Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov on Tuesday visited the test site, where test of the missile of Ukrainian production took place. NSDC Secretary of Ukraine directly coordinates the realization of national missile programs.

    According to Mr. Turchynov, restoring of the missile shield is “one of the priority tasks for defense and security of our country”.

    Our Defense-Industrial Complex, our scientists and designers were entrusted with a task to ensure the production of Ukrainian missiles without a single component, manufactured in the Russian Federation”, ‑ he said, adding that “Defense Industry together with scientists fulfilled it worthily”.

    “We started firing tests of missiles of Ukrainian production, and today’s launch showed that our missile has fully complied with the planned task and hit exactly at the preplanned target”, ‑ Mr. Turchynov noted, stressing that unlike the Russian analogue, missile of Ukrainian production is a guided one, “that makes possible to significantly increase the efficiency of its use”.

    According to him, this is not the only missile program, which Ukrainian scientists and Defense Industry are working at. “We are getting ready to wield powerful and effective missiles that will reliably defend our country”, ‑ he said.

    After successful tests NSDC Secretary of Ukraine held a meeting with leading designers and managers of defense enterprises, who in cooperation carry out the production of Ukrainian missiles. The meeting was dedicated to clarifying the schedule of further testing and arranging the series production.

    The military news site military-informant.com reported that was firing test of new Ukrainian project «Vіlha» ( translated from Ukrainian as the Alder is the common name of a genus of flowering plants) 300mm Multiple Launch Rocket System


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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:54 pm

    "Ukrainian defense company «PRACTIKA» has developed the concept of new Armoured Personnel Carrier 8×8.

    General of the Army of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko, Chief of General Staff, Ukrainian Armed Forces, visited research-and-production association «PRACTIKA» in Kiyv. During the visit company «PRACTIKA» showcase the new concept Armoured Personnel Carrier.

    The new APC is designed to provide maximum operational flexibility and protection. The concept APC is a tactical armored vehicle with advanced ballistic and blast protection, ensuring crew survivability in the modern day battle field.



    The company «PRACTIKA» specializes in armored vehicles production.

    Production activity of the company has five basic directions:

    - Armoured vehicles(cars of VIP class; cars cash – in – transit; cars for people carriage, military armoured vehicles)
    - The Bank equipment (storehouses of values; doors; safes; cases archival; the equipment for depositaries; means of technical protection of the information; servers, currency exchange items; cash cabins; protection platforms-sluices)
    - The Fire-prevention equipment(doors; gates; a curtain; a glazed partition; the hatch; the valve)
    - The Equipment for nuclear stations (hatches; gates)
    - Security glazing"


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/ukrainian-defense-company-has-developed-the-new-armoured-personnel-carrier-8x8.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  Militarov on Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:02 am

    "UkrOboronProm handed over 16 BTR-4 APCs modernized according to NATO standards and a batch of new 120 mm “Molot” mortars to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    BTR-4 are equipped with German-made Deutz engines and modernized according to NATO standards. In addition, the Ukrainian troops received a batch of 120 mm M120-15 Molot mortars, developed in 2015 by PJSC “Mayak” Plant based in Kyiv (Ukraine).

    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko personally tested BTR-4, developed by Kharkiv Morozov Machine Construction Bureau.



    “These BTRs are essential for Ukrainian forces. They will be handed over to the 92nd brigade and field forces”, – President stated.

    During his visit to Kharkiv Poroshenko also witnessed the check run of “Source of Neutrons” – the first in Ukraine nuclear facility of global significance, developed by Ukrainian specialists.

    Ukrainian President Poroshenko handed over new BTR-4 APC and mortars “Molot” to 92nd Mechanized Brigade, is a formation of the Ukrainian Ground Forces."








    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/ukrainian-army-received-16-modernized-btr-4-armoured-personnel-carriers.html
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    Re: Ukrainian Ground Forces:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:27 am

    Militarov wrote:"Ukrainian defense company «PRACTIKA»  has developed the  concept  of new Armoured Personnel Carrier 8×8.

    General of the Army of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko, Chief of General Staff, Ukrainian Armed Forces, visited  research-and-production association «PRACTIKA» in Kiyv. During the visit company «PRACTIKA»  showcase  the new concept Armoured Personnel Carrier.

    The new APC  is designed to provide maximum operational flexibility and protection. The  concept APC is a tactical armored vehicle with advanced ballistic and blast protection, ensuring crew survivability in the modern day battle field.



    The company «PRACTIKA» specializes in armored vehicles production.

    Production activity of the company has five basic directions:

    - Armoured vehicles(cars of VIP class; cars cash – in – transit; cars for people carriage, military armoured vehicles)
    - The Bank equipment (storehouses of values; doors; safes; cases archival; the equipment for depositaries; means of technical protection of the information; servers, currency exchange items; cash cabins; protection platforms-sluices)
    - The Fire-prevention equipment(doors; gates; a curtain; a glazed partition; the hatch; the valve)
    - The Equipment for nuclear stations (hatches; gates)
    - Security glazing"


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/ukrainian-defense-company-has-developed-the-new-armoured-personnel-carrier-8x8.html

    ...What a piece of crap!!! lol1

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