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    PapaDragon

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:34 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for

    You nailed it. The Russian government even funds and gives lots of prime-time air to pro-Western liberals exactly because of this. There is an excellent article by The Saker on this subject, worthy reading:
    http://thesaker.is/re-visiting-russian-counter-propaganda-methods/

    Agreed. Heck just translating and publishing crap you get about Russia in GoogleNews feeds from MSM is more than enough to get the job done.

    It's reverse Cold War at this point with modern media playing Soviet Pravda.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:11 am

    And if the system is rigged from outside were they can just pay thousands or millions of people to vote for this person, as we seen how they pay people to go protest?

    I think the possibilty of that happening now days is close to zero


    Svyatoslavich wrote:You nailed it. The Russian government even funds and gives lots of prime-time air to pro-Western liberals exactly because of this. There is an excellent article by The Saker on this subject, worthy reading:
    http://thesaker.is/re-visiting-russian-counter-propaganda-methods/

    Thanks for the link. It's about foreign propaganda but it's the same principle as for the domestic "liberals"....Lokks like it's working Wink
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:52 pm

    Sobchak - is she an ingenious plan of Uncle Vowa?

    1) she is actually getting a lots of coverage in gotv's media.
    2) she is genuine Russian liberal
    3) Her statements render her never elected but still can channel voice of liberal part of society in a democratic manner (without CIA sponsorship)

    In my deep thoughts if she gets real grasp on things suddenly she might change her image and statements for mor epro Russian. Consider her a Trojan Horse gift for liberal camp.




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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:54 am

    Everything you need to know about United Russia party

    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/982635


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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:55 am

    Interesting oppinion piece about the 2018 election...the author believes liberal heads will roll post election

    Putin's 2018 Election Campaign: A New Beginning?
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2018/01/putins-2018-election-campaign-new.html
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:15 pm

    http://thesaker.is/grid-dynamics-connects-wars-in-ukraine-and-syria-with-soros-open-russia-sobchak-and-snipers-in-saratov/?utm_content=buffer28552&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    A long article but it shows and proves Sobchak's pro Nazi background, proves an organization still operating in Russia freely is a George Soros organization and Khordokovsky organization. How this organization held Hotel Sniper training sessions in Russia, and how they infiltrated the most industrialized city/region in Russia.

    We're the fuck are the Russian authorities? How are they letting this happen?

    Fuck, I think Russia will split apart because of gross incompetence of FSB.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:03 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:http://thesaker.is/grid-dynamics-connects-wars-in-ukraine-and-syria-with-soros-open-russia-sobchak-and-snipers-in-saratov/?utm_content=buffer28552&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    A long article but it shows and proves Sobchak's pro Nazi background, proves an organization still operating in Russia freely is a George Soros organization and Khordokovsky organization. How this organization held Hotel Sniper training sessions in Russia, and how they infiltrated the most industrialized city/region in Russia.

    We're the fuck are the Russian authorities? How are they letting this happen?

    Fuck, I think Russia will split apart because of gross incompetence of FSB.

     
    And I think that Sobchak is a genius Putin's project. She knew she would get this role long time ago.  This is a chance to get perhaps imperfect but still Russian genuine opposition.  I dont like liberals myself but if you deny them right to express their mind in framework of law then many (especially young) people will consider them  oppressed ones. And support.

    IMHO much better is to let them speak their mind and disgrace themselves beside supporting them is no forbidden fruit among young population but   sheer stupidity. But anyway Russia needs some platform for liberals who are not actual US mignon and thief (Chubais, Prokhorov) or on US payrol (vide Navalny) .  

    What about it? do you think Putin is stupid letting real danger to election?
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:07 pm

    It's stupid to let banned organizations to freely operate in Russia. I don't care about libs and their low support. But clearly allowing organizations pushing for a violent takeover (Maiden) and even training "snipers from hotel rooms) is clearly fucking stupid and wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

    Thing is too, this organization (according to article) has infiltrated China too.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:43 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:It's stupid to let banned organizations to freely operate in Russia. I don't care about libs and their low support. But clearly allowing organizations pushing for a violent takeover (Maiden) and even training "snipers from hotel rooms) is clearly fucking stupid and wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

    Thing is too, this organization (according to article) has infiltrated China too.


    And you are sure of source? who is author  and what was his agenda? this would mean that FSB just watches porn and Chinese services are in fact guards in Aliexpress warehouses.  Maidan in Russia aint gonna be anytime soon. Snipers are not main element and as criminal underground will be liquidated. There is no public support to maidowns neither libreasts. 
    It is specific case of Baltics and Ukraine this love for nazis. In Russia it is actual negligible minority. 

    Do you really think last 20years or so Vova was not careful watching all environment around? do you think he knows less that we do? I seriously doubt.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:53 pm

    Did you even read the article or did you just read the title?

    All links and backup documents are present. Even these idiots voast about their activities on VK. Names are given, plus links probing it.

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