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    AlfaT8

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:17 am

    miketheterrible wrote:So once again, Navalny runs around free and willfully breaking the law:

    https://www.rt.com/news/390345-navalny-video-delete-court-pornhub/

    So he says he will refuse the courts ruling and will continue to keep the video up.  The court turned down the video especially over the fact that there were allegations of rape about the Russian billionair but with no evidence of the like.  When it was pointed out and a counter sue (he is lucky as it was only a sue to get Navalny to admit he was wrong and to take down the video) proved Navalny is wrong, he stated he will keep fighting it and he is willfully going to break the law by not removing the video.

    At this point, he must be thrown in jail for continuously breaking the law.  Or eventually it will be proven there is no rule of law in Russia and people will run amok.

    This F'er is desperate to become some Martyr, well eventually he'll really F up.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:18 am

    I imagine if he openly refuses to pull the video while losing the battle about libel, then the court could probably throw him in jail for openly refusing or pushing a penalty significantly greater. Or the guy who sued him could take him to court again and really get him into trouble.

    Either way, Navalny is acting like a typical child.

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

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    Organizations controlled by US State Department most active in Russia — top prosecutor


    MOSCOW, June 7. /TASS/. Non-governmental organizations controlled by the US State Department are most actively operating in Russia, Prosecutor General Yury Chaika has said.

    "The NGOs controlled by the State Department of the United States have been among the most active ones," Chaika told the parliament during a discussion on preventing interference in Russia’s domestic affairs.

    Russia’s authorities have checked 73 organizations, and 10 of them were labeled undesirable, while checks against 22 of them are ongoing, he said. Some NGOs are taking steps to influence Russia’s legislative activity.

    According to the top prosecutor, the activity of almost 500 NGOs funded from abroad has been examined. "Even after the law entered into force many of them strongly refused to register as foreign agents and acted uncontrollably and non-transparently, influencing the decisions of authorities in the interests of their foreign sponsors," he said. In some cases, in violation of rules of the international law they were financed directly by the United States, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
    In particular, the US-Russia Foundation for Economic Advancement and the Rule of Law jointly with economic universities fulfilled an educational program aimed at selecting gifted young people and sending them for internship to the United States. "They impose a viewpoint on the students that Russia’s economic and political life is inferior to the US model," he said.

    The Open Russia NGO, founded by exiled Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, financed the activity of election campaign of Russian opposition groups through figureheads and also took part in unauthorized social and political events. Last year, the group allocated more than $1 mln for this purpose, he said.

    http://tass.com/politics/950294

    So what happens to these NGOs that continue to violate the law and carry on with their illegal activities? Law enforcement should come bursting into their doors, arrest all staff and burn down their fcking operations center, but i feel there is a kind of "hesitation" from the government? who are they trying to avoid being offended?
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:49 am

    they end up as banned. Open Russia foundation has been banned.

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  par far on Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:17 pm

    There are lots of protests going on, what should we make of them.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:07 pm

    par far wrote:There are lots of protests going on, what should we make of them.

    That depends on what they're protesting about, if it's real issues like wages, pensions, utility costs, than they should be looked into, but if it's vague issues such as  Freedom/democracy, justice, values, than we can chalk that up as NGO inspired BS.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:57 pm

    Its Russia day. Only protest was 3000 people from Navalny group trying to hijack it. Instead it just made people mad and laugh at them when they were being arrested. Area that was allowed to have protests had a peaceful one and about 1000 people showed up for that.

    Par far is about as smart as s rock and can't tell the difference between a puddle and an ocean (protests vs a Russia day parade).

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  par far on Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:37 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Its Russia day. Only protest was 3000 people from Navalny group trying to hijack it.  Instead it just made people mad and laugh at them when they were being arrested. Area that was allowed to have protests had a peaceful one and about 1000 people showed up for that.

    Par far is about as smart as s rock and can't tell the difference between a puddle and an ocean (protests vs a Russia day parade).


    You don't have to call anyone anything, if you don't want to answer the question, than don't answer but no need to say rude things.

    I asked because it was all over RT.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:27 pm

    I'm sick of you spreading misinformation and lies based upon nothing. Even RT showed that it was the Russia day festivals. It was a bunch of kids paid for or just being stupid. 3000 people out of 250,000 at the festival. Protests everywhere? You made it up.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:41 am

    The purpose of the protests that Navalny pushed for to be moved to the areas of the parades and shows, was to simply make it look like something else in western media. And it worked. At least for Western Media concept.





    When reality is:



    The problem is, Navalny did it so that the average dumbass from the western world would see that "oh look at all these protestors! There are hundreds of thousands of us." But reality was, in Moscow there was about 4,500 - in St.Petersburg there was about 3,500 and a mixture of some few hundreds in other cities. Some would give it a total of around 30,000 in all of Russia. Now let us do the math on that:

    I will go easy and give Navalny camp another 10 thousand people just because I am a nice asshole: 40,000 people protested in a nation of 146 million people (there are more people in Russia but I am rounding it down to 146M). So that is: 0.0274% of the total population of Russia. Let us do it vs 1 city alone - Moscow: 0.3% of the population of Moscow alone which consists by 2011 figures as 13M people. Reality, Moscow is much larger with the suburbs added in and total amount of migrants (illegal and legal) making the greater area of the city roughly 15+ Million.

    When Levada poll did a poll on Navalny's support, it came out to 2% of the respondents would vote for him, even though now way more people know who Navalny is: http://www.levada.ru/2017/04/06/aktsii-protesta-26-marta-i-navalnyj/


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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  par far on Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:38 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I'm sick of you spreading misinformation and lies based upon nothing. Even RT showed that it was the Russia day festivals. It was a bunch of kids paid for or just being stupid. 3000 people out of 250,000 at the festival.  Protests everywhere? You made it up.


    On RT it said that it was in in couple of cities, I did nothing to spread lies.


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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:10 am

    How Navalny HQ is connected with the suicide organization in Russia:

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/protest-suicide-teenage-technology-navalny/

    Essentially, Navalny has ties to the pro suicide groups. Maybe he should do us a favor and off himself.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:09 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:How Navalny HQ is connected with the suicide organization in Russia:

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/protest-suicide-teenage-technology-navalny/

    Essentially, Navalny has ties to the pro suicide groups.  Maybe he should do us a favor and off himself.

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:28 am

    https://www.rt.com/politics/404538-russian-diplomats-expect-washington-to/

    I think the part about the supposed $100B USD for NGOs per year in Russia may be a misquote. There is no way that amount would be allowed without raising suspicion. Maybe 100B Rubles.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:51 pm


    This is not politics but I have no idea where to put it:


    The Price of Truth

    How one American ex-cop and whistleblowerfound refuge in Russia



    https://sputniknews.com/world/201709281057780884-pbso-john-mark-dougan/
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:47 am

    Attacking the messenger is not an acceptable form of argument...

    A whistle blower is someone who exposes bad behaviour, sometimes criminal behaviour, yet it seems to be the culture in the US to treat such whistle blowers as the criminals who need to be dealt with.

    Needless to say no system is perfect, but if you ignore any criticism then it can never be improved and anger within the system and created by that system will only continue and even get worse.

    One of the problems of the west who believe they are the pinnacle of civilisation... they do everything right and those that disagree are traitors or back stabbers or just trying to hide their own incompetence or in some way just trying to tarnish the image of the system they were part of.

    Pride is part of the problem... I hope Russia does not choose a path that leads them to become more and more like the west is now.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  franco on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:33 pm

    ian bremmer 3 hours ago

    % satisfied with the way democracy is working in their country

    India, Sweden, Tanzania 79% (highest)
    Germany 73%
    Canada 70%
    Russia 59%
    UK 52%
    Japan 50%
    US 46%
    France 34%
    S. Korea 30%
    Brazil 28%
    Spain 25%
    Mexico 6% (lowest)
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:51 am

    With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.

    Of course I am not serious... I would not suggest anyone should inflict such death and destruction on the Mexican people, but if they are not happy with how thing turned out who else should change things but them?
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:25 pm

    GarryB wrote:With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.

    Of course I am not serious... I would not suggest anyone should inflict such death and destruction on the Mexican people, but if they are not happy with how thing turned out who else should change things but them?

    Mexico is another case. Dont forget there is the Drug War where there and corruption at extreme level. Remember the case where about 40 activists-students were arrested by the police and then the police handed them to drug cartels and they killed them. Even there remains cant be found.

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  Project Canada on Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:31 pm

    GarryB wrote:With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.

    Of course I am not serious... I would not suggest anyone should inflict such death and destruction on the Mexican people, but if they are not happy with how thing turned out who else should change things but them?

    Unfortunately, as long as the Mexican government remain useful lackeys for USA the "International community" wouldn't give a crap to the Mexican people regardless of their suffering.
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:44 pm

    Things politically do not look good in Russia.

    You got two people whom are clearly anti Russian, pro American and Ukraine Junta running for president of the country (Paranbas leader and sobchak), and in Ekaterinberg, George Soros and McCain funded organization is causing major problems.

    I think, due to the authorities failure to act, this could be what destroys Russia.

    https://ria.ru/amp/society/20171122/1509386452.html

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  Project Canada on Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:03 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Things politically do not look good in Russia.

    You got two people whom are clearly anti Russian, pro American and Ukraine Junta running for president of the country (Paranbas leader and sobchak), and in Ekaterinberg, George Soros and McCain funded organization is causing major problems.

    I think, due to the authorities failure to act, this could be what destroys Russia.

    https://ria.ru/amp/society/20171122/1509386452.html

    How come these kinds of prostitution to the west doesn't happen in equally powerful countries like China? Russia clearly needs to set up laws that would make it illegal to support narratives that would lead to disintegration of Russia's sovereignty. All these western prostitutes needs to be humiliated with extreme prejudice.
    Now, the youth on the other hand needs to be taught from the earliest age possible to be Patriotic and Nationalistic so future generations of Russians are least susceptible to the idea of selling off their country. Rolling Eyes
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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:39 pm

    I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for

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    Re: Politics and Government of Russia

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:52 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for


    And if the system is rigged from outside were they can just pay thousands or millions of people to vote for this person, as we seen how they pay people to go protest?

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:48 am

    Cyberspec wrote:I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for

    You nailed it. The Russian government even funds and gives lots of prime-time air to pro-Western liberals exactly because of this. There is an excellent article by The Saker on this subject, worthy reading:
    http://thesaker.is/re-visiting-russian-counter-propaganda-methods/

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