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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:31 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Russia has so many news organizations, its hard to pinpoint what out. If they have same news, from same organization (state owned) news, why not merge them into one entity as it will save money. There are other news organizations who are willing to pick up slack, especially whatever stupid crap Putin does.

    Dont see how this is tightening any grips or someone grasping at power, when the organizations themselves are kremlin owned and run, and they are consolidating them.

    Maybe im wrong, please better explain this to me.

    Most US news agencies are owned by like 6 people when decades ago it was owned by significantly more. It is dangerous in the fact that news is very slanted and biased, or at least you will be hard pressed to find news with a different viewpoint. At least this move will reduce overall number of state run agencies, and Interfax is private with 30 different news agencies, so they can easily pick up the slack. As well with others. Would be interesting to see if others will start a new news agency in Russia.

    It's wrong, RIA Novosti was free from the soft propaganda you get with the Voice of Russia.
    It was very objective actually.

    Now I fear that will be lost.

    Why the hell does Putin think he has to take everything into his own or the government's hands? It's starting to stifle Russia.
    Major discred' to him for this idiotic move.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:36 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Russia has so many news organizations, its hard to pinpoint what out. If they have same news, from same organization (state owned) news, why not merge them into one entity as it will save money. There are other news organizations who are willing to pick up slack, especially whatever stupid crap Putin does.

    Dont see how this is tightening any grips or someone grasping at power, when the organizations themselves are kremlin owned and run, and they are consolidating them.

    Maybe im wrong, please better explain this to me.

    Most US news agencies are owned by like 6 people when decades ago it was owned by significantly more. It is dangerous in the fact that news is very slanted and biased, or at least you will be hard pressed to find news with a different viewpoint. At least this move will reduce overall number of state run agencies, and Interfax is private with 30 different news agencies, so they can easily pick up the slack. As well with others. Would be interesting to see if others will start a new news agency in Russia.

    It's wrong, RIA Novosti was free from the soft propaganda you get with the Voice of Russia.
    It was very objective actually.

    Now I fear that will be lost.

    Why the hell does Putin think he has to take everything into his own or the government's hands? It's starting to stifle Russia.
    Major discred' to him for this idiotic move.

    Both Ria and VoR are both state run assets. Hence both were already owned by the government, which both are costing them federal bucks to upkeep.

    I will take interfax news over the state run if I want objectivity on news regarding the government. Ria was good indeed and was pretty objective, but ultimately, still state owned hence still federal government asset

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:38 pm

    TR1 wrote:RT is mixed.
    They are often annoying conspiracy theorists.
    THey sometimes have decent reports where politics isn't involved.
    They have this one guy who does interviews who makes me cringe HARD.

    Suffice it to say, I don't watch the show. 
    But then again I only watch Colbert and Stewart, and thats not for news.

    Funny thing about RTs interviewers

    My dad knows one (Al Gurnov)

    And I know another (Peter Lavelle). Well virtually anyway, used to take part in a tiny political usergroup he ran on Google Groups and a small bunch of us would would always discuss Russia and politics.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Firebird on Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:13 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    TR1 wrote:RT is mixed.
    They are often annoying conspiracy theorists.
    THey sometimes have decent reports where politics isn't involved.
    They have this one guy who does interviews who makes me cringe HARD.

    Suffice it to say, I don't watch the show. 
    But then again I only watch Colbert and Stewart, and thats not for news.

    Funny thing about RTs interviewers

    My dad knows one (Al Gurnov)

    And I know another (Peter Lavelle). Well virtually anyway, used to take part in a tiny political usergroup he ran on Google Groups and a small bunch of us would would always discuss Russia and politics.

    I like Peter Lavelle. Its a weird thing to say, but he seems like some jovial uncle or something...
    Anyway, its nice to see a foreigner with a real passion for Russia too.

    Some of the conspiracy stuff is a little off. Ofcourse I don't agree with everything about RT, but generally its pretty good. Also the presenter women tend to be hot (that is important for someone as superficial as me  tongue ), altho I think its a shame when some of them try and Americanise their acccents.

    I also used to like Moscow Out. Altho the host, Martin Andrews always reminded me of a serial killer. He'd always start the episode sitting ontop of a rocking horse or something, coming out with this ridiculous and  decidely exaggerated chuckle...

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:17 pm

    Firebird wrote:I like Peter Lavelle. Its a weird thing to say, but he seems like some jovial uncle or something...
    Anyway, its nice to see a foreigner with a real passion for Russia too.

    He's a pure academic. An intellectual. Essentially a professor but with a public/'TV' personality that he can project; which is what got him the job at RT I guess.
    But as is often the case with academics; he's a little naive.

    I remember in the group I participated, one of his main predictions back in the day is how when Putin steps down in favour of Medvedev, he would retire from politics and go to serve as the head of the Sochi 2014 committee, something along those lines.

    Well that might have been true for someone like Schroder, to be fair..

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  zino on Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:41 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    I will take interfax news over the state run if I want objectivity on news regarding the government. Ria was good indeed and was pretty objective, but ultimately, still state owned hence still federal government asset

    Something changed after Putin rielection: Ria Novosti started to mix facts with opinions in the same article. Often opinions (without signature) was disguised as facts. One for all, a month ago, "Ukraine, a state with NATO ambition". Is a well note fact that Ukraine is, for now, neutral as stated by the constitution.

    I usually did as follows: if I wanted to check the bad news, how could I say, the pessimistic mood of the nation, I checked Ria Novosti. On the contrary the optimistic mood was (is) in Itar-Tass (great prevalence of good news). The only neutral and professional is indeed Interfax. Unfortunatly is not for free  cry , so we have to live with a fraction of the newsline.

    Sergey Ivanov today on Ria Novosti: “Russia has its own independent politics and strongly defends its national interests: it’s difficult to explain this to the world but we can do this, and we must do this,”

    Russia, a country with his own way of being. I stand with Sergey, for now. But I think and hope forever.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Viktor on Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:10 am

    Head of New Kremlin Media Agency Bids to Boost Russia's Image

    This will end well. I just hope they will even more expand the news concering military.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:46 am

    I won't get into conspiracy theories whether Putin is concentrating power (I don't know enough about it) but RIA Novosti (the english version at least) has in recent years turned into pile of crap. Silly headlines, a lot of stupid opinion pieces and analysis. If I want to read liberast fantasies and propaganda I'll go over to the Russophobe blog or any MSM website for that matter....I won't miss it much since I rarely read it lately

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:38 am

    The worst so far i could experience is LENTA ru, which called Khardakovsky in an interview completley innocent and that this regime jailed him for nothing, totally ignoring murders still under investigation, bribings of politicians, selling russian state industries in oil buisness, weapon smuggles and so on.

    Completley innocent the poor oligarch with millions if not billions.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:09 am

    Opinion pieces on any site is usually bollocks if it praises one side or the other. To be fair, they need to be neutral.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:34 am

    Such things as RIA Novosti and Lenta.ru are needed, in order to prevent everything being one-sided. Free Media is a good thing and Russia still has it in the printed and online sphere anyway, don't want that to be done away with.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:51 am

    flamming_python wrote:Such things as RIA Novosti and Lenta.ru are needed, in order to prevent everything being one-sided. Free Media is a good thing and Russia still has it in the printed and online sphere anyway, don't want that to be done away with.

    Alternatives are always good but not lying shitty news that make up things just to harm reputation and through the constant and quantity overwhelming lies it tries to create a perception in favor for one side.

    Perspectives are needed not bought lies.

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    RIA Novosti dissolved ... question is why?

    Post  Deep Throat on Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:37 pm

    I was in two minds as to whether I should post this topic under the RUSSIA thread or here .

    I chose the later coz as a Weapons enthusiast I have often relied on RIA Novosti and Voice Of Russia for authentic information about the Russian Arms Industry .

    It therefore came as a shock that RIA Novosti & Voice of Russia are being liquidated and will merge with several other state-run news agencies to emerge as Rossiya Segodnya .

    RIA Novosti was established as the Soviet Information Bureau in 1941 and has since grown to become one of the world's largest international news agencies, with services in 14 languages.

    Rossiya Segodnya is a newcomer , RIA Novosti and Voice Of Russia on the other hand is a brand name the world over .

    Why destroy such a solid Brand Name ? People tend to believe in something that they are associated with for years .

    Would like to hear the views of Forum Members .

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:30 pm

    Ria became opinionated and a lot of their facts were quite wrong on a daily basis. As well, liquidation of assets are needed as there is far too much news publishers all under the same umbrella. Now its merging them into one asset. Money saved.

    Arms Tass is pretty good. Same with Rusnavy is pretty good too. Use google translate and you will be able to read sdelanounas, which has a military section as well.

    I stopped reading Ria quite a while ago due to their questionable information.

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    Post  calripson on Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:51 pm

    RIA's editorial slant became quite pro-western in a very subtle way. I thought I was reading a news source based in London or DC. Obviously, I wasn't the only one who noticed.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  flamming_python on Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

    Yes but that's good, it was a government-funded source but a clearly independent one.

    I wouldn't say it was pro-Western at all.

    Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  etaepsilonk on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:04 pm

    Really? I thought that was because RIA and VoR sort of duplicated themselves, didn't they?

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  TR1 on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:06 pm

    Because old propaganda wasn't working and they wanted to create new organs under politically reliable control.

    In other words same old, same old.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  etaepsilonk on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:09 pm

    TR1 wrote:Because old propaganda wasn't working and they wanted to create new organs under politically reliable control.

    In other words same old, same old.

    But they consolidate Ria and VoR under one company, don't they?
    In that case, aren't the main reasons for such consolidations to reduce money spending?

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  TR1 on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:18 pm

    Trust me, Russian government could care less about money spending of state media, as much as making Putin and Co look good.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  etaepsilonk on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:24 pm

    TR1 wrote:Trust me, Russian government could care less about money spending of state media, as much as making Putin and Co look good.

    Oh, I see. So the government want to make Putin and Co look even better. But is that even possible?  lol! 

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Regular on Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:27 pm

    RIA Novosti was one of my favorite news from Russia. It wasn't pro-Western and it was giving objective news. These days it's impossible to find objective news anymore, be it west or east.

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:23 pm

    Kremlin's fears from 1. situation in ukraine may repeat in russia, 2. ria novosti had a page dedicated to political prisoners

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  Deep Throat on Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:37 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Yes but that's good, it was a government-funded source but a clearly independent one.

    And imagine the thousands of employees of RIA Novosti who will be fired . This is disgusting . Already the job market is bad , the world over .

    flamming_python wrote:Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

    Flamming , which one ? Got the URL handy ?

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    Re: National Media / News Agencies of Russia

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:54 pm

    Deep Throat wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

    Flamming , which one ? Got the URL handy ?

    Lost the original but found a couple other sources

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/defense-ministry-news-agency-planned-for-2014/490968.html
    http://voiceofrussia.com/radio_broadcast/25950828/254784369/

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