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    Will this be Russia's New Obama?

    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:24 am

    A Russian Man Aims to Overcome Widespread Rascism in a Bid to Become District Chief.


    Joachim Crima's campaign billboard pictures the African immigrant in a white shirt and tie with his suit jacket slung over his shoulder, photoshopped smiling in front of a winding blue river with the message "Vasily Crima – New District Chief." Except for the Cyrillic lettering, it could be a campaign poster from almost anywhere with a black population.



    But in Russia, it turns heads.

    Crima – who has adopted the Russian name Vasily Ivanovich – is running for a district seat on the Municipal Council in the southern Volgograd region where he grows and sells fruits and vegetables, mostly watermelons. A black person has never held office in Russia and very few have ever run.

    He has been nicknamed "Volgograd Obama," though the only thing that Crima, 37, and President Obama appear to have in common is African heritage. Crima is hesitant to compare himself to America's new president though he admires Obama for "showing the world what black people could do.


    http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=8247656&page=1


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    Re: Politics of Russia Thread:

    Post  RussiaRules on Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:44 pm

    cool
    I wonder if he'll win...

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:52 pm

    RussiaRules wrote:cool
    I wonder if he'll win...

    Good joke... the day an Afrikan wins election in Volgograd, the Afrikan Union will be a superpower.

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    Post  RussiaRules on Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:02 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    RussiaRules wrote:cool
    I wonder if he'll win...

    Good joke... the day an Afrikan wins election in Volgograd, the Afrikan Union will be a superpower.

    Haha I know, but I didn't think Obama would win America either, strange things happen sometimes Very Happy

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:23 am

    RussiaRules wrote:

    Haha I know, but I didn't think Obama would win America either, strange things happen sometimes Very Happy

    Difference is, Obama was near top of his class at world's most prestigious university and was half white, raised by whites. Crima is an uneducated Afrikan who runs a fruit stand.

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    Post  RussiaRules on Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:51 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    RussiaRules wrote:

    Haha I know, but I didn't think Obama would win America either, strange things happen sometimes Very Happy

    Difference is, Obama was near top of his class at world's most prestigious university and was half white, raised by whites. Crima is an uneducated Afrikan who runs a fruit stand.

    Good point

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    Politics of Russia Thread:

    Post  soldieroffortune on Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:08 pm

    Here's what the Russian Officers think of him (from the site "Soyuz Oficerov" - http://oficeri.narod.ru/), in particular how this "manager" "saves" money:


    Вообще, подход нового министра к "экономии" денег отличается своеобразием.

        На то, чтобы переодеть к параду десять тысяч солдат и офицеров парадного расчёта, деньги нашлись мгновенно. При этом один комплект формы от Юдашкина обходится Министерству обороны в 50 тысяч рублей. Шинель из этого комплекта стоит 12 тысяч рублей — как в хорошем бутике! А за обычный форменный галстук российский налогоплательщик выкладывает аж 600 (!!!) рублей. При этом часть формы по странному стечению обстоятельств шьётся в городе Санкт-Петербурге — родном городе нашего министра. А вот одеть и экипировать должным образом десять тысяч солдат и офицеров 58-й армии, которых, как показывали все прогнозы и данные разведки, ждала скорая война — денег не нашлось.

        На ремонт собственных апартаментов министром были изысканы и брошены миллиарды рублей, а вот на то, чтобы закупить для воюющей армии приёмники ГЛОНАСС, денег за два года его министерства почему-то так и не нашлось.

        Впрочем, может быть, министр просто не успел заняться перевооружением армии, занимаясь наведением порядка на своём рабочем месте?

        Посмотрим, что это за порядок.

        Например, раньше обслуживание здания Генерального штаба велось силами специальной комендатуры эксплуатации нового административного здания. В ней служило триста офицеров, прапорщиков и контрактников. Офицеры-инженеры занимались эксплуатацией технических систем здания, прапорщики — техническим обслуживанием и ремонтом, контрактники — в основном женщины, занимались уборкой в здании и поддержанием в нём порядка. В год на функционирование этой комендатуры выделялось 15 миллионов рублей.

        На очередном совещании у министра работа этой комендатуры была приведена как образец порочной структуры и пример неразумного расходования денег и нецелевого использования военных должностей. Комендатуру упразднили. Вместо неё, как это теперь модно, был проведён конкурс на нового подрядчика по обслуживанию здания. Этим подрядчиком стала фирма "БиС".

        Теперь в здании Генерального штаба всем хозяйством и уборкой заведует "БиС". Её уборщицы получают от 12 (зарплата майора ВС РФ) до 24 тысяч рублей (зарплата полковника с полной выслугой лет), а общие затраты на обслуживание здания составляют теперь аж 18 МИЛЛИОНОВ рублей в месяц! — 216 миллионов в год! Итого, после министерской "оптимизации" расходы на содержание и обслуживание здания увеличились в четырнадцать раз!

        Зато теперь министр может гордиться — ставки солдат и офицеров сэкономлены, эти деньги уходят "по профилю" — в карман коммерсантов.

        Надо ли говорить, что фирма "БиС", выигравшая конкурс у фирм-конкурентов, по странному стечению обстоятельств оказалась родом из Питера, откуда, как известно, вышел сам министр…

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    Re: Politics of Russia Thread:

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:36 am

    Those officers are just mad b/c they failed the competency test. Getting rid of all the useless officers is saving us money and putting civilians to work with competitive contracts. It saves the state money to be competitive bidding for social affairs. We don't need warrant and officers maintaining buildings. Their elimination for stupid posts like this will free them up for actual kombat operations and they will be getting a real salary that makes these wasted positions look like peanuts.

    If you are calling the MoD a traitor, you are also calling Putin a traitor since he champions these reforms.

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    Post  soldieroffortune on Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:40 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:Those officers are just mad b/c they failed the competency test. Getting rid of all the useless officers is saving us money and putting civilians to work with competitive contracts. It saves the state money to be competitive bidding for social affairs. We don't need warrant and officers maintaining buildings. Their elimination for stupid posts like this will free them up for actual kombat operations and they will be getting a real salary that makes these wasted positions look like peanuts.

    I don't know about their competency, however I've serious doubts about Serdyukov's competency. For example,

    http://alex-serdyuk.livejournal.com/161680.html

    ИСТОЧНИК непрерывных анекдотов и едких шуток, прославившийся своей вопиющей безграмотностью в военных вопросах, министр обороны России Анатолий Сердюков стал воплощением профессиональной некомпетентности.

    То, отбыв в должности почти год, сей господин утверждает, что зарплата лейтенанта его армии составляет "двадцать-тридцать тысяч рублей" (200-300% от реальной), что аббревиатура ВВС расшифровывается, как Би-би-си, а зарплаты лётчиков мало чем уступают министерским.

    То, устав от лишнего груза, он избавляется от "ядерного чемоданчика" — переносного терминала "Чегет", системы управления ядерным оружием, являвшегося обязательным атрибутом его должности, от которого зависит безопасность страны.

    Лично, стоя у карты, определял объекты ударов авиации во время войны с Грузией: "Вот по этому мосту давайте бабахнем!"

    Прославившийся тем, что общаться с подчинёнными без мата просто не умеет, не стесняясь изъясняться на нём даже на трибуне высоких совещаний.

    Грохнувший в ремонт здания Министерства обороны полугодовую зарплату всего офицерского корпуса, этот господин навсегда занёс своё имя в историю Российских Вооружённых Сил как разрушитель и полный профан.

    И прозвище "маршал Табуреткин" — это самое печатное из тех, которыми его наградили в войсках.

    Но в кремлёвской чиновной "бригаде" не сильно прислушиваются к армейскому ропоту. Для них Сердюков — "свой". Он точно следует всем правилам кремлёвского этикета и верно служит своим высоким покровителям. Всё остальное — мелочи!

    Секрет в том, что армия для Сердюкова — не более чем очередная ступенька служебной лестницы. И как опытный карьерист он отлично понимает, что ему нужно "дать результат", показать себя как "эффективного менеджера". А чем он может отличиться? Только одним, но главным современным "менеджерским" ноу-хау — меньшим числом сделать больше работы. А значит, нужно сокращать и резать! Вот он и старается…

    Стоит ли удивляться тому, что реформы в России буксуют и идут в разнос, если реформой медицины занимался инженер-кибернетик с банковским уклоном, реформой науки — бизнесмен и финансист, а реформой армии — экономист-мебельщик?

    А теперь стоит посмотреть, чьими же руками делается эта "реформа"?

    Правая рука Сердюкова — нынешний начальник Генштаба Макаров — полностью под стать своему патрону. Не он ли, чтобы усидеть в кресле, готов покрывать любое непотребство и безобразие, смиряться с любым беспределом и нарушением законов?

    Скольким тысячам офицеров за год "военной реформы" Сердюкова были сломаны и исковерканы судьбы? Сколько тысяч блестящих профессионалов было безразлично вышвырнуто со службы, едва достигнув пенсионной выслуги, чтобы превратить "яйца" господина Сердюкова в полноценные марсианские "треугольники".

    И под всеми этими директивами стоит ваша, господин Макаров, подпись!

    Может быть, вы, господин "товарищ генерал", не слышали о том, что в вашем Генштабе сотни офицеров, оказавшись выкинутыми за борт, без должностей, без перспектив, не могут даже уволиться, потому что ваш мебельный "патрон" трусит увольнять их по закону, понимая, что таких многомиллиардных расходов никакой бюджет Минобороны не выдержит, и требует их увольнения "по собственному желанию" или под любым предлогом, найдя любой повод, отыскивать любую зацепку, чтобы выкидывать людей на улицы без денег, квартир и пенсий?

    Может быть, вы об этом не слышали?

    Или делаете вид, что не слышите?

    А может быть, просто слово "честь офицера" у вас давно намертво зашито генеральскими лампасами, которые вам заменили заодно ещё и совесть?


    Also see

    http://allan999.livejournal.com/6279872.html



    If you are calling the MoD a traitor, you are also calling Putin a traitor since he champions these reforms.

    Ha-ha-ha ... I used to think Putin was good for Russia :-)

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:11 am

    I'm wondering what you really know about what is going on to call him a traitor.

    All you are posting is rants from people who were too incompetant to pass a proficiency test and r scared of getting out of the dark ages. Am I supposed to feel sorry for these incompetent people who cheated to become officers and are now called out on it? I think not...

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    Post  soldieroffortune on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:23 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:I'm wondering what you really know about what is going on to call him a traitor.

    All you are posting is rants from people who were too incompetant to pass a proficiency test and r scared of getting out of the dark ages. Am I supposed to feel sorry for these incompetent people who cheated to become officers and are now called out on it? I think not...

    I hope I'm wrong, but facts are facts. Some of the Russian officers/generals you call incompetent, at the same time Serdyukov, according to you, - is competent? What makes him competent? What is his military experience? You are saying you are in the Russian Army, - so you can say that the officers/generals respect him?

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:36 am

    soldieroffortune wrote:

    I hope I'm wrong, but facts are facts. Some of the Russian officers/generals you call incompetent, at the same time Serdyukov, according to you, - is competent? What makes him competent? What is his military experience? You are saying you are in the Russian Army, - so you can say that the officers/generals respect him?

    The problem is, these officers do not want to reform the army. They like having a broken corrupt system while they take the kickbacks and steal from the people. Well no more... Serdyukov is a military veteran, has turned the tax code efficient, and is a successful business owner. Where else are you going to find someone willing to reform the army in an efficient manner? You can't find people on the inside who like a broken system that are going to fix what they don't see as wrong. The days of corruption and inefficiency are ending... thanks to Serdyukov. Traitor he is not... reformer of the Army he is and it is about damned time.

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    Post  soldieroffortune on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:09 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    soldieroffortune wrote:

    I hope I'm wrong, but facts are facts. Some of the Russian officers/generals you call incompetent, at the same time Serdyukov, according to you, - is competent? What makes him competent? What is his military experience? You are saying you are in the Russian Army, - so you can say that the officers/generals respect him?

    The problem is, these officers do not want to reform the army. They like having a broken corrupt system while they take the kickbacks and steal from the people. Well no more... Serdyukov is a military veteran, has turned the tax code efficient, and is a successful business owner. Where else are you going to find someone willing to reform the army in an efficient manner? You can't find people on the inside who like a broken system that are going to fix what they don't see as wrong. The days of corruption and inefficiency are ending... thanks to Serdyukov. Traitor he is not... reformer of the Army he is and it is about damned time.

    Out of curiosity, as a Russian officer, - do you approve the idea of each serviceman buying his/her uniform for 20,000 rubles instead of the uniforms being issued by the Army as in the old days? I wonder how is it possible - one trench coat by Yudashkin costs 12,000?

    More generally, this is just a talk, the day of reckoning for Serduykov's reforms will come when Russia is fighting her next war. God forbid, but with so many enemies and no allies it may happen. I also hope that your running this forum is not against the rules and regulations of the Russian Army and you won't get yourself into trouble. I recall that in the old days if a serviceman wanted to publish an article or a book he had to ask his authorities for permission. Let's leave it at that. Peace.

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    Post  Vladislav on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:58 am

    Serdyukov Cleans Up the Arbat

    Ruslan Pukhov

    Anatoly Serdyukov’s surprise appointment in February 2007 as Minister of Defense came as a shock to the military, to politicians, and independent experts. The former furniture dealer’s experience in government was limited to the tax departments, even if he rose quickly up the ranks to become Chief of the Federal Tax Service.

    Surprise gave way to irony and skepticism that a man with his background could make any headway against the staunchly conservative defense establishment; but attitudes changed dramatically in short order, as Serdyukov’s first year in office was marked by convulsions, the likes of which have not been seen on the Arbat in decades. Like a modern Hercules cleaning out the Augean stables, Serdyukov brought apparently unlimited energy to a thorough purge of the department.

    Following the initial dismissal of Colonel General Anatoly Mazurkevich, Chief of the Main Directorate for International Affairs, and of General of the Army Aleksey Moskovsky, Deputy Minister and Chief of Armament, came the further dismissals in May of General of the Army Vladimir Mikhailov, Commander in Chief of the Air Force, ostensibly due to his advanced age, and Colonel General Boris Chelstov, Chief of the Air Force Supreme Headquarters. The same fate befell the Navy in September, as Commander in Chief Admiral Vladimir Masorin was forced to retire, and replaced by Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky.

    In the fall, Colonel General Aleksandr Kolmakov was appointed Deputy Minister of Defense, while Lieutenant General Valery Evtukhovich took his place as Commander of the Airborne Troops. Former border guard and now nominal civilian Oleg Eskin was also appointed Deputy Minister. Colonel General Nikolai Resnik was dismissed as Chief of the Main Directorate for Morale and given a position as an adviser to the Minister. Finally, the “tamer of Chechnya” Lieutenant General Vladimir Shamanov was appointed Deputy Chief of the Main Directorate for Military Training and Service, which has resumed its former stature as one of the most important structures of the renewed defense department. Even more changes to the top leadership were awaited throughout the year. Lyubov Kudelina, the chief financier of the MoD, and General of the Army Vladimir Isakov, who has been Chief of Logistics for the past eleven years, were widely expected to go. Rumors circulated constantly about the dismissal of Yury Baluyevsky, General of the Army and Chief of the General Staff, even though his term was formally extended to 2010. It seems that Kudelina’s and Baluyevsky’s backers are still fighting back-room battles in the Kremlin and White house.

    Actually, these appointments, each of which was naturally followed by the migration of subordinates from one office to another, are just surface signs of the sea change that has taken place in the MoD under Serdyukov. One of the main accomplishments of his leadership has been to instill an atmosphere of “shock and awe” in the halls of the department.

    Serdyukov made a point off not getting involved in the daily administration of troops and operational-strategic planning, leaving these matters to the professionals. Instead, he focused on organizational and budgetary issues, and in these spheres he insisted upon an unprecedented (at least for the MoD) level of precision and fastidiousness. He was thus able in short order to put the generals in their place and to instill a level of background fear that even the old-timers do not recall having seen before. As an officer in one of the central directorates of the MoD explained: “senior generals go to meetings of the Defense Board as to the scaffold.”

    Some interesting stories about Sedyukov’s style are beginning to emerge from those who have seen him in action. According to one account:

    “At meetings of the MoD Board, Igor Rodionov used to read prepared speeches from beginning to end. Sergey Ivanov would improvise and deviate from the text; moreover, he would offend sensibilities, breaking protocol and smoking during official meetings. Serdyukov comes prepared, having studied the reports, but he speaks without referring to any notes and throws out questions that are not always on the agenda but which always hit the mark, leaving many respondents grasping at straws.”

    Here, for example, are some questions he put to generals responsible for morale: “How many agreements were signed this year with civilian universities for the free education of officer’s children?”

    – “Actually, none, Comrade Minister!”

    – “You might be able to pay for a private education for your children, but an officer from some far-off garrison, who makes from 10,000 to15,000 rubles per month, cannot. Why has this Ministry, which has influence over the civilian colleges, not seen fit to do anything about this? Report!”

    And here is a question posed to the head of the housing department: “Why is the department building housing according to old blueprints that allow for the bare minimum of living space, while paying the same rate as for elite housing? Report!”

    To the Deputy Minister of Defense: he asked: “How many testing ranges are owned by the MoD? How much land do they cover?” Getting no response, Serdyukov continues: “Who permitted the construction of private cottages on the territory of these ranges, such as at Senezhsky? Report!”

    Similar questions put to officers of Logistics, the Main Mobilization Directorate, the Main Armor Directorate, the Main Missile-Artillery Directorate and others carry the same message: no more stealing!

    The new minister regularly initiates wide-ranging investigations that have led to significant operational changes to the ministry. Immediately upon his appointment, Serdyukov ordered an audit of the financial compliance and effectiveness of main and central directorates of the Ministry and General Staff, along with the chief commands and service headquarters. Moreover, these inspections were conducted by people who have never worked for the military and were brought to the ministry by Serdyukov, including many who worked with him in the tax departments, including former Deputy Chief of the Federal Tax Service Sergey Khursevich and several of his colleagues.

    Serdyukov also invited former VP for finance of the oil company TNK-BP (and former Deputy Minister of Finance) Mikhail Motorin to the Ministry. As a MoD source lamented: “inspections are now being conducted by people who have neither slept on armor nor toasted to friendship with the people they are auditing.”

    Anti-corruption measures taken by Serdyukov have been met with open opposition and led to many dismissals – even one suicide. Nevertheless, the Minister’s actions to bring corrupt networks to light and some order to the military’s finances have had a palpable effect with positive resonance among the public.

    The new Minister has also begun to address such acute and long-standing issues as the ineffectiveness of Russia’s defense industrial and procurement policies. Why, with so much spending on defense, do the Armed Forces possess so little new equipment? Why does the design and testing of many new types of armament take decades to show results? Soon after his appointment, Serdyukov asked the Ministry of Defense Military-Technical Commission a number of pointed questions. The Minister wondered aloud why the Military-Technical Commission artificially delay the acceptance or refusal to accept advanced armament prototypes. Serdyukov did, however, take care to safeguard the deciding vote of the Ministry of Defense on the procurement of military equipment and not allow final decision making to pass to the recently-created Federal Agency for Armament, Military, Special Equipment and Material Resources Procurement.

    Serdyukov has brought a new approach to many aspects the department’s work. He initiated, for instance, modifications to the Russian military uniform, which has in many respects become outdated and uncomfortable. He has also addressed the issue of the physical condition of Russia’s generals and senior officers. The entire service personnel of the General Staff, irrespective of rank, must now meet set physical standards upon threat of dismissal.

    He also launched plans to reduce the personnel in the central administration by 30%, which would lead first of all to the liquidation of a significant number of positions filled by generals and colonels. Another important project would have many positions that do relate directly to combat readiness to be filled by civilians, such as accountants, lawyers, doctors, etc. A significant proportion of the department support services will also be contracted out to civilian firms.

    Given the extraordinarily high prices for real-estate in Moscow, Serdyukov’s move to sell off surplus land and buildings owned by the Ministry and to use these funds to construct housing for service personnel has proven timely and effective.

    One further measure that deserves mention is the decision made May 8, 2007 on the one-time declassification of practically all Red Army archival documents of the WWII period, allowing researchers almost unrestricted access. Paradoxically, over the past 20 years of “democratic” rule none of the “democratic” rulers has done anything of the kind, not only in relation to archival documents of the Ministry of Defense but for any other archives.

    As a result of one year’s work by the new Minister, the central agencies are working at a quicker pace in a new, businesslike atmosphere. Many obvious problems are finally being resolved, issues that have been dismissed as secondary but which are actually extremely important. Serdyukov’s metal broom is clearly working, and everyone involved with the military feels the winds of change. The MoD is working in an increasingly transparent manner and has demonstrated a new willingness to engage the public. Moreover, Serdyukov works without attracting undue attention or creating needless sensations with statements and promises on military-political or internal defense affairs. He generally avoids publicity and acts in a calm, methodical, and consistent manner.

    However, Serdyukov was appointed not just to clean a rusty military machine, eliminate obvious abuses and whip the over-fed corps of generals back into shape both literally and figuratively. His mission is broader and of greater significance, and he has shown himself to be the most able and effective manager to assume the helm of the Russian military since the time of Stalin’s commissars.

    Indeed, it has been precisely bad management that has emerged as the Achilles heel of the Russian military today; the source of the of the military’s chief deficiencies in planning, organization and expenditures. It is precisely the superior management of the West’s political-military machinery, and not greater spending levels, that allow it to maintain its dominant position in the world.

    This has become especially apparent in the last two years, as ever-larger tranches of funding have been allocated to the MoD. They have obviously not yet had a transformative effect on the degraded condition of our Armed Forces. And it is precisely the astonishment that lies behind the question: “where is all of the money going?” that is being asked first of all in the Kremlin, that has propelled Anatoly Serdyukov to his appointment. He has been charged with the introduction of an effective, modern system of management to the Russian military.

    Over the past year, Serdyukov has shown his grasp of the big picture. Indeed, as “CEO of the MoD,” Serdyukov could be described as one of Putin’s most effective appointments. But it is still far too early to give a conclusive evaluation of his performance. Given the monumental scale of the problems facing Russia’s military, Serdyukov’s biggest challenges almost certainly lie ahead.

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    Post  Vladislav on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:14 am

    soldieroffortune wrote:

    Out of curiosity, as a Russian officer, - do you approve the idea of each serviceman buying his/her uniform for 20,000 rubles instead of the uniforms being issued by the Army as in the old days? I wonder how is it possible - one trench coat by Yudashkin costs 12,000?

    I don't know what you are quoting, but it sure wasn't from that narod page you posted. Care to show where you got that from?

    I also hope that your running this forum is not against the rules and regulations of the Russian Army and you won't get yourself into trouble. I recall that in the old days if a serviceman wanted to publish an article or a book he had to ask his authorities for permission.

    FYI, Vladimir isn't in the military anymore. Look at his profile.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:58 pm

    soldieroffortune wrote:Out of curiosity, as a Russian officer, - do you approve the idea of each serviceman buying his/her uniform for 20,000 rubles instead of the uniforms being issued by the Army as in the old days? I wonder how is it possible - one trench coat by Yudashkin costs 12,000?

    More generally, this is just a talk, the day of reckoning for Serduykov's reforms will come when Russia is fighting her next war. God forbid, but with so many enemies and no allies it may happen. I also hope that your running this forum is not against the rules and regulations of the Russian Army and you won't get yourself into trouble. I recall that in the old days if a serviceman wanted to publish an article or a book he had to ask his authorities for permission.

    As stated I am no longer in the armed forces. I served my conscription and kontrakt. I know the law so you shouldn't worry about it.

    I don't know the facts of uniform prices and have not seen your source on that page.

    What makes him competent is his ability to manage the reforms, make people accountable for their failures, and to fix the system. We have lacked this since the fall of the CCCP which is why so many projekts sat unfinished or failed. People have grown so accustomed to being lazy and stealing from the state, someone had to come in and put an end to it. It isn't like this man gets involved with strategic operations, he is a manager and a damned good one from what we have seen so far. The generals and officers don't have to respect him, they have to fear him for loss of their jobs. It is the only way to beat this lazy corrupt atmosphere that has taken hold of the armed forces. We will no longer pay for failure. These men complaining are like little children who now have to actually work for once in their lives or get canned. Of course the officers complain... the people love that part of it, they are only concerned with the cuts.

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    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:06 pm

    Now the governement better rebuild it fast....democracy doesn't really work in Russia, socially you always preffered strong types of governments (ofcourse not complete dictatorship). So Gorby and Yelstin's politic was shitty, it destroyed it all. Now Medvedev better work it out, economically Russia is not in a great situation at the moment, especially with the crisis
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:23 pm

    milky_candy_sugar wrote:Now the governement better rebuild it fast....democracy doesn't really work in Russia, socially you always preffered strong types of governments (ofcourse not complete dictatorship). So Gorby and Yelstin's politic was shitty, it destroyed it all. Now Medvedev better work it out, economically Russia is not in a great situation at the moment, especially with the crisis
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    Russian democracy is at work, we want strong leaders who bring us prosperity and power. We have unhindered internet access so whoever wants to speak has their voices heard. If the government does not perform, people hit the streets as the million man march got Yeltsin to resign. Leaders know if the people don't support them, they won't last.

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    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:25 pm

    But once they are, the way they applicate the government is quite strong compared to other countries.....
    Pah "democracy is when 51% of the people impose it's reign over the resting 49%"....

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:41 pm

    As an average citizen, I don't see it. I am free to say what I want, go online and post what I want, I can get a permit and protest where I want, I can go on strike anytime. It is the people that don't follow the rules of the system that recieve a heavy hand. Instead of fighting it, you work inside it to get change.

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    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:01 pm

    "The rules of the system"- that's somehow the point
    But yeeesh i don't really like actual russian government....even if they can sound cool sometimes but they got a loooong way to go before becoming THE superpower

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:25 pm

    What would you like to see happen in Russia?

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    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:30 pm

    Personally? First of all, resolving all the main problems such as intern administration, diversification/modernisation of consumer's industry (third sector), demography etc
    after....i'll see

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:22 pm

    Well, I can't say much about the rest of it, but demography is picking up. We had our first population growth in the last 15 years.

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    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:24 pm

    *i'd like to somehow contribute to the demography xoxo russia *
    yeah i heard of it, but how many per cents?

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