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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:30 am

    MOSCOW, 5 April. / TASS /. Modern radar "Sky-Y" entered service division of the Western Military District troops radio (ZVO). The journalists said the head of the press service of the district Colonel Igor Mugina.

    "Radar is designed to detect, coordinate measuring and tracking aerial targets different categories of aircraft to cruise and guided missiles, including small size hypersonic ballistic and subtle, using stealth technology" stealth "at a distance of 600 km," - he explained .

    The station is able to determine the nationality of the aircraft objects and zapelengovat directors jamming. A station can operate automatically, independently and as part of a control system of the compounds.

    "Overall, quality performance gosobonzakaza in the past two years has allowed the complex to re-equip the system of aerospace defense ZVO, thus creating a continuous radar field and providing one hundred percent control of the airspace in the area of ​​responsibility," - said Mugina.


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:36 am

    Purchase of radar "Niobium-SV"

    The site procurement April 18, 2016 was posted information about the conduct of Russian Ministry of Defense tender for purchase in 2017-2018 six new radar standby meter waveband 1L125 "Niobium-NE".

    According to the tender documents, the first two stations 1L125 "Niobium-CB" must be placed by October 25, 2017 to the Military Academy of Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Marshal of the Soviet Union AM Vasilevsky in Smolensk, and to the military unit 33860 (106 th Training Center Army Air Defence of the Armed Forces) in Orenburg.

    The other four radar must be placed by October 25, 2018 to the military units in the Red River (Khabarovsk), Rybinsk-18 (Yaroslavl region), Novocherkassk (Rostov region) and Gagarin (Sverdlovsk region) - in all cases refers to the storage and repair of military base art.



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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Sun May 22, 2016 2:25 am

    Russia’s Western Military District Equipped With Nebo-U Mobile Radar



    Russia’s Western Military District (WMD) received into service the 55Zh6 Nebo-U (NATO reporting name Tall Rack) mobile radar, the district spokesman said Saturday.

    Rostec Develops Radar Optical Vehicle for Russian State Borders Protection
    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Nebo-U station boasts friend-or-foe identification and active signal jamming direction finding capabilities, he added. The radar works in both standalone mode and as a component of a wider system.

    Col. Igor Muginov noted that the 2014-2015 state defense procurement allowed the district to re-equip its aerospace defense system, creating a single radar field and ensuring total control over airspace in its area of responsibility.

    "The radar locator is intended to detect, measure coordinates and track aerial targets of various categories from aircraft to cruise and guided missiles, including small hypersonic, ballistic and stealth [rockets] in the range of 600 kilometers [372 miles]," Muginov said.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160521/1040022197/nebo-u-radar-russia.html#ixzz49L7dfPol


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  medo on Sun May 22, 2016 9:35 am

    I think it was meant Nebo-M radar, not Nebo-U, which is different. On the picture is Nebo-M.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  max steel on Sun May 22, 2016 11:54 am

    Are these radars powerful than Duga radar in Chernobyl. An over-the-horizon radar system over 10 MW power
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Viktor on Sun May 22, 2016 12:51 pm

    max steel wrote:Are these radars powerful than Duga radar in Chernobyl.  An over-the-horizon radar system over 10 MW power

    Not as powerfull but mobile!

    Mobility is an issue many lose sight off but as it does not correlate with the technical carateristics of the system but makes a whole strategy of use around and for Russia one

    that is most important.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  max steel on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:33 pm

    any idea what is it ?

    Руско „невидљиво око” и за америчке невидљиве авионе B-2 и F-22

    MINISTRY OF DEFENCE OF RUSSIA INTRODUCES A NEW SYSTEM OF SURVEY AT THE END OF 2013.

    Систем који има ознаку МИИС способан је да прати авионе и бродове на растојањима од неколико хиљада километара, а да при том сам остане непримећен
    УВОЂЕЊЕ многопозиционог извиђачко-информативног система (МИИС) почеће крајем 2013. године.

    Извор из Министарства одбране РФ саопштио је да се тренутно усаглашавају техничка документација и обим финансирања пројекта.

    Саговорник, који МИИС назива „невидљивим оком”, рекао је да је систем способан да прати авионе и бродове на растојањима од неколико хиљада километара. То је толико ефикасан систем праћења какав Русија није имала.

    Представник Министарства одбране је прецизирао да су све техничке карактеристике МИИС поверљиве, иако је објашњив систем његовог рада. „Сви цивилни и војни објекти и у ваздуху имају емитују неколико радио таласа. То су радари, комплекси система навигације GPS и ГЛОНАСС, радио висиномери” - рекао је извор из министарства одбране.

    „Пошто МИИС једноставно слуша простор и не зрачи, то значи да протвник не зна да је откривен” - истиче извор. Он је још додао да се ни амерички авиони B-2 и F-22, који су иначе неприметни, неће моћи сакрити од овог система.

    Да би се елементи „свевидећег ока” поставили - довољно је неколико десетина квадратних метара простора. У основи: за антену. Постављени систем биће неприметан како за ваздушно тако и за космичко извиђање.

    Извор је такође саопштио да су прва испитивања МИИС обављена пре три године. Тада су „на нишану” система - који је постављен у Московској области - били авиони и бродови руске Ратне морнарице.

    „Свевидеће око” пратило је тада објекте који су летели над Баренцовим морем. Кад су састављене координате систем је погрешио за само неколико метара.

    Постоји и аналог МИИС, његовим пројектовањем се бави британска компанија BAE Systems.

    Овај податак познат је од августа месеца ове године, али су и карактеристике британског система су такође под ознаком тајности.

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  franco on Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:11 pm

    New Russian radar capable of spotting stealth aircraft being deployed;

    http://en.ria.ru/science/20160702/1042341025/russia-podsolnukh-radar-f35.html
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    New photonic radar ROFAR

    Post  User 1592 on Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:38 am

    "The future radar will be based on the photonic technology that greatly expands the possibilities of communication and radar as their weight will be decreased by more than half and the resolution will increase tenfold."

    "The ultra-wideband ROFAR signal allows one to virtually get a TV picture on a radar range. Radio photonic technology, in particular, will enhance the capabilities of the latest generation of Russian airplanes and helicopters."

    “After our work on ROFAR, a list of aircrafts both manned and unmanned will be presented with an offer to be equipped with the radar based on radio-optical phased arrays. I think that the PAK FA will also be on this list and there will be specific proposals given to it,” Mikheyev told reporters, adding that the final decision will be taken by the Department of Defense."

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20151230/1032493933/russia-aviation-pak-fa-radar.html


    "In order for this radar to be defeated, one would have to essentially travel faster than light, or make oneself wholly invisible."
    "Since any stealth aircraft can be seen with the naked eye, we know that they give off light. That means they are detectable. You could only be invisible to this radar by quite literally breaking the laws of physics." said Jason McKinney, of the US Naval Research Laboratory regarding photonic radars.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=02b_1395416459


    "In practice, this means that ROFAR can produce a detailed 3D image of what is happening hundreds of kilometres away. For example, at 400 kilometers it can not only see a person, but even recognize their face", said Vladimir Mikheyev, Advisor to KRET's First Deputy CEO.

    "According to KRET, the future ROFAR will be half the weight of the conventional radar system currently being developed for the fifth-generation fighter. Simultaneously, the resolution will be ten times better, making it possible to virtually get a TV picture in the radar range.

    "The use of radio-frequency photonic technology allows for a significant reduction of aircraft detectability within the infrared spectrum and of fuel consumption. This is possible due to the high efficiency of the future radar system, which will produce several times less heat, so developers will not have to include an additional powerful cooling system, which would significantly increase the mass of the product and require electricity generated by the aircraft's engines at the cost of burning fuel."

    "In addition, it will not be possible to block ROFAR through high-power jamming. For this, the range of the electronic warfare system must be greater than that of the radio receiver, which is physically impossible with photonics-based radar."

    "If the ROFAR project is successfully completed, the technology will not only be used for airborne radar systems. According to Mikheyev, equipping new or existing Russian naval ships with ROFAR would make it possible to reduce the weight and size of their onboard antenna systems by approximately 80-85 percent."

    http://rbth.com/defence/2016/01/21/with-new-radar-the-pak-fa-fighter-can-detect-any-stealth-aircraft_561275
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:10 pm

    Russia will station additional Podsolnukh (Sunflower) radars that are capable of detecting cutting-edge stealth aircraft, including Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II and F-22 Raptor, to protect the country's exclusive economic zones in the extreme North, the Baltic Sea and Crimea in 2017, Rossiyskaya Gazeta reported.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160810/1044129781/russia-podsolnukh-radar.html


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:11 pm

    Russian scientists have increased the accuracy of the optical radar (LIDAR) 10 fold
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Airman on Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:31 pm

    franco wrote:New Russian radar capable of spotting stealth aircraft being deployed;

    http://en.ria.ru/science/20160702/1042341025/russia-podsolnukh-radar-f35.html

    I found this photo about that radar.



    It looks realy different.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  franco on Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:23 am

    65th Anniversary of Radar Troops;

    http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12106257@egNews
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:56 am

    Russian military units get cutting-edge electronic warfare systems

    The Krasukha-4 electronic warfare system is intended for countering an adversary’s radars of the strike and reconnaissance, unmanned aircraft and drones

    MOSCOW, December 19 /TASS/. Russia’s Western Military District has received about 10 state-of-the-art electronic warfare systems, including the Krasukha-4 broadband multifunctional jamming stations, Igor Migunov, the District’s press service chief, told journalists on Monday.

    "About 10 brand-new electronic warfare systems have put into service with the military units of the Western Military District as part of the 2016 state defense order. They include several Krasukha-4 mobile VHF/UHF jammers," Migunov went on to say.

    According to him, experts on electronic warfare systems are going to test the new systems during field exercises in January.

    The Krasukha-4 electronic warfare system is intended for countering an adversary’s radars of the strike and reconnaissance, unmanned aircraft and drones. The capacities of a broadband interference station make it possible to effectively combat against all modern radar stations, which are used on modern aircraft.


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    Post  HM1199 on Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:05 pm

    can someone tell me , at what range a NEBO M complex can detect an f22 or an f35? or at least if it can detect it from a reasonable distance?
    also , can someone explain how does that ''multispectral queing" thing works ?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:10 pm

    HM1199 wrote:can someone tell me , at what range a NEBO M complex can detect an f22 or an f35? or at least if it can detect it from a reasonable distance?
    also , can someone explain how does that ''multispectral queing" thing works ?
    thank you Very Happy


    Without any trouble, from 100s of kilometres.

    The the wavelength works together, say if you see strong response from the NEBO,and very weak from the fire control radar then it is a stealth aircraft : )


    It is works like the colours, the black and white picture carry less data and information than a colour one.




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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  HM1199 on Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:31 pm

    thanks for the answer singular transform , and can the Nebo-M generate a missile guiding track at long distances as well?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:42 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    HM1199 wrote:can someone tell me , at what range a NEBO M complex can detect an f22 or an f35? or at least if it can detect it from a reasonable distance?
    also , can someone explain how does that ''multispectral queing" thing works ?
    thank you Very Happy


    Without any trouble, from 100s of kilometres.

    The the wavelength works together, say if you see strong response from the NEBO,and very weak from the fire control radar then it is a stealth aircraft : )


    It is works like the colours, the black and white picture carry less data and information than a colour one.




    From million miles. It actually can detect aircraft flying in Mars orbit.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Militarov on Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:27 am

    HM1199 wrote:can someone tell me , at what range a NEBO M complex can detect an f22 or an f35? or at least if it can detect it from a reasonable distance?
    also , can someone explain how does that ''multispectral queing" thing works ?
    thank you Very Happy

    You want real answer? We dont know.

    Also depends what you call "reasonable distance".

    Here you have decent article on radars in general, both "meter" and "decimeter" wavelenght ones: http://www.radioamatore.info/attachments/article/1773/NNIIRT-55Zh6M-Nebo-M-VHF-Radar-1S.pdf

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:30 am

    F-22 and F-35 are optimised to evade the signals from X band radars because that was the most common tracking radar frequency and still is.

    the problem for the stealth aircraft of today and near future is that NEBO uses three different frequency ranges that are each rather different.

    NEBO is very big and rather powerful compared with the seeker in a missiles nose or an aircraft nose so even the X band component of the system will offer better detection performance against stealth aircraft.

    Most small RCS items and even large RCS items can be stealthy if mistaken for clutter... an An-2 flying at low level at near its stall speed of 75km/h was feared to be the first effective stealth aircraft in that look down radars that could detect it could also detect cars on a motorway doing 100km/h so to remove the cars and other ground based fast moving objects the An-2s flying in that airspace would also be removed from the display as noise.

    For the same reason a low flying F-35 might be removed to prevent golf balls and birds appearing on the radar screen except the flight speed of the F-35 (at more than 150km/h) would mean it would clearly not be a golf ball or bird so even look down radars would display it if enough of a return signal could be detected.

    Long wave radar signals are not effected by the shaping of the aircraft so stealth shapes wont effect the detection range of metric wave radar and coatings are not thick enough to have much effect either.

    You need a much bigger aircraft (closer in size to the radar wave length) to effect longer wave radar signals... like the B-2.

    Newer radar technology including Photonic radar may change things dramatically though.


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    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:53 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    From million miles. It actually can detect aircraft flying in Mars orbit.

    The Russian radars are not capable to do that, but of course the US military doesn't know the meaning of impossible : )

    https://warisboring.com/the-u-s-navys-next-hawkeye-plane-can-detect-stealth-fighters-51023944fcbe

    they write about the capability of Hawakeye :
    “It is the physics of longer wavelength and resonance that enables VHF and UHF radar to detect stealth aircraft,” Westra wrote in his article, titled “Radar vs. Stealth.”

    UHF-band radars operate at frequencies between 300 MHz and one GHz, which results in wavelengths that are between 10 centimeters and one meter long. Typically, due to the physical characteristics of fighter-sized stealth aircraft, they must be optimized to defeat higher frequencies in the Ka, Ku, X, C and parts of the S-bands.


    So, just to compare: the hawkeye has a 7.3*0.7 meter big radar, the NEBO-M 60*6 meter big.

    The Nebo 70 times bigger than the hawkeye radar.



    Feel the difference?


    so either the US military lie , or the NEBO-M can detect the f-22/35 from extreme distances : )
    Pick your choice.

    You can trash now the US military, and bragging about the incapability of them : ) and how rubbish the US navy and the hawkeye.


    But the principle of operation to detect stealth is simple, and using the same principle like this antenna:

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    Post  HM1199 on Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:46 pm

    thanks for the replies guys , so from all that we can deduce the s400 using nebo m or gamma DE can actually be a potent stealth hunter ?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:30 am

    Not just stealth aircraft...

    Incoming ballistic missile warheads have a small RCS too and need to be tracked and engaged...


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  medo on Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:23 am

    Nebo-M AESA complex consist from 3 radars, 1 VHF working in metric diapazone, 1 working in dm diapazone and 1 working in cm diapazone. Max range is 600 km. VHF radar see stealth planes without problem and having more Nebo-M complexes in different locations mean, that they could triangulate stealth planes very precisely for the use of air defense and fighter jets.

    Older Nebo-SVU VHF radar, which was the first AESA VHF radar, have enough small cell for target location, that S-300 complex could launch missile on it without using of tracing radar. It was used only to guide missile to the cell of Nebo-SVU radar and there missile itself will find and attack the target. No need for tracking radar to actually see the target.

    Modwern AESA VHF radars are precise enough for air defense use, specially when there is more of them in different locations and they triangulate targets. In that case stealth doesn't mean any advantage. SHORADs and medium range SAMs will use optical channels against stealth planes, so for them VHF radar is enough. Don't forget that Russian IADS also have a lot of different passive ELINT complexes, which could detect any emmiting from planes and stealth F-22 and F-35 also use radars, data links, TACAN, communications, IFF, etc, so they will be precisely tracked from long distances for the use of air defense.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:29 am

    HM1199 wrote:can someone tell me , at what range a NEBO M complex can detect an f22 or an f35? or at least if it can detect it from a reasonable distance?

    this actually difficult to said.

    However the VHF band will roughly give 7 times the detection range of X-band assuming same power and antenna gain. Thus low 0.0001 sqm target that detectable in X-band will roughly be detected in 210 Km by VHF band.

    So basically yeah..it should be detected at reasonable distance. The only limit would be Horizon.

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