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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  franco on Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:29 am

    max steel wrote:Is it true that Russia had a network of early-warning radars and no operational early-warning satellites currently ?

    That is correct.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  max steel on Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:38 am

    Any Idea why ? Working on modified Early Warning sats and radars?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  franco on Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:43 am

    End of life cycle. Apparently new and better ones are in the works, perhaps next year.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Project Canada on Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:08 am

    Russia to test-launch ‘break-through’ photonic radar by 2018 - producer
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:50 pm

    All-Seeing Eye: Russia Poised to Create Next-Gen Radar Station in 3 Years

    The use of light will greatly expand the information acquisition capability of modern communications and radars, decreasing weight by half and increasing resolution ten-fold.

    DUBAI (Sputnik) — Russia will create by 2018 a prototype next-generation radar station based on radio-optical phased array technology, the first deputy general director of Russian Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET) said.

    "KRET already began laboratory research in radiophotonics to create radio-optical phased arrays to equip its new-generation radar… By 2018 KRET will present a radar prototype," Igor Nasenkov told RIA Novosti in an interview at the Dubai Airshow-2015.

    According to Nasenkov, photonic technology, or the use of light, will greatly expand the information acquisition capability of modern communications and radars, decreasing weight by half and increasing resolution ten-fold.

    Russia Develops Electronic Warfare System to Counter Aerospace Threats

    "We finished developing a new generation of ground EW [electronic warfare reconnaissance system], which will fend off aerospace attacks. It includes the latest electronic intelligence units, which will be able to conduct a more detailed reconnaissance than the Moscow-1 electronic warfare system," Nasenkov told RIA Novosti.

    According to Nasenkov, the system will feature several geolocation methods, including triangulation, phase and range difference.

    The next-generation system is designed to jam modern and future aerospace radio-electronic equipment, the KRET deputy head added.

    KRET, Russia's largest radio-electronics company, was founded in 2009. The umbrella company combines over 95 business entities under Russia’s state technologies corporation Rostec.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151112/1029962540/russia-radar-kret.html#ixzz3rNoIpGqh


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Vann7 on Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:32 am

    max steel wrote:Any Idea why ? Working on modified Early Warning sats and radars?

    In real practice is not big deal.
    Is useful to have them but not really game changing why?

    Because Russia ground stations radars can cover any launch from Europe ,middle east and Russia far east all the way to Alaska.

    and what Russia lost was the Satellite early radars that could track launches from US main land.
    that is Silos. But because the majority of nukes of america are in submarines. in a real war
    Submarines will do launches close to Russia ,not close to America. Having early warning satellites give some kind a bit of extra information about US biggest nukes in SILOS underground. but again , If Americans ever launch any of them.. they will be visible on Russian
    radars once they reach Europe or artic or kamchatka in the far east. The only launches that will not be seen as soon they happen are the ones in central USA.. or eastern coast. Is not a big deal really. The advantage in early warning is only for nukes launched from central USA territory about 20 seconds more extra time. Russia can also create land radars in the far east the can reach central US and not need the early warning radars... but is more cheap a radar
    than a big ground station. The early radar sat just expired its life and russia building new ones.
    What is important to remember is that SILOS and BIG nukes are the less likely ones to be used.
    they have less precision and much biger payload..and the only way they could be used is in a total full scale war mutual assure dest.. The only benefit of the early satellites is that it tells Russia what kind of nuclear attack they will face.. if a small one or an total full scale. doesn't seem like much consolation to me. lol1
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:07 pm

    The troops of the Russian Federation already have mobile radar that can detect objects at a distance of 1,200 km

    "We plan to - radar detection with a range of 1,500 km and a height of 150-600 kilometers," - said the deputy chief of radio troops videoconferencing Russian Colonel Vladimir Fillipovich

    MOSCOW, December 12. / TASS /. The radio Russian troops are already in service with mobile radar station (RLS), capable of detecting air and space objects at ranges up to 1,200 kilometers. This was announced on Saturday, the deputy chief of radio troops aerospace forces of Russia colonel Vladimir Filippovich.

    "Today, there are radars that can detect objects at a range of 1,200 km and an altitude of 150 km," - he said on the air of "Echo of Moscow". "We plan to - radar detection with a range of 1,500 km and a height of 150-600 kilometers," - he added.

    The officer did not specify what kind of radars are meant.

    Meanwhile, according to open sources, mobile radars, standing today at the armed forces radio air and space forces of Russia, can detect objects at distances of a maximum of about 400-600 kilometers.


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:23 pm

    George1 wrote:"We plan to - radar detection with a range of 1,500 km and a height of 150-600 kilometers,

    600km?....they'll be detecting satelites at that height if true
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  max steel on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:12 pm

    Missile-dangerous directions to be controlled by the new radars by 2018

    Concern Enterprises “RTI” are able to perform tasks assigned by the government to establish by 2018 a continuous radar field for all missile-dangerous directions, the general director of OAO “RTI”, Chief Designer of early warning system (EWS) Sergey Boev said .

    “According to the program, signed by the president, to 2018 all the missile-dangerous directions on the territory of Russia should be controled by continuous radar field. Judging by the pace at which we are working in our factories, in research centers and facilities, I have no doubt that this will be done,” he said in an interview, published on Wednesday, July 29th.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Isos on Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:23 pm

    Since the begining of the oprations in Syria, Russia has deployed several radars near Turkey ( NATO). What information can NATO get with electroonic intelligence about them ? They are using some ancient radar that aren't PESA or AESA, it's easier to get informations about them and jamm them.

    Do you have some russian informations about russian radar tracking F-22 in Syria ? Idk russian so I can just search about English and french sources, not the best about russian stuff ...
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:29 pm

    Isos wrote:Since the begining of the oprations in Syria, Russia has deployed several radars near Turkey ( NATO). What information can NATO get with electroonic intelligence about them ? They are using some ancient radar that aren't PESA or AESA, it's easier to get informations about them and jamm them.

    Do you have some russian informations about russian radar tracking F-22 in Syria ? Idk russian so I can just search about English and french sources, not the best about russian stuff ...

    ...What can their (NATO) ELINT/SIGINT collect in Syria? Now that's a real question! Considering how the Pentagon admitted that their having trouble tracking whats going on in Syria. Dat Kras-4 bruh!
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:28 pm

    Isos wrote:Since the begining of the oprations in Syria, Russia has deployed several radars near Turkey ( NATO). What information can NATO get with electroonic intelligence about them ? They are using some ancient radar that aren't PESA or AESA, it's easier to get informations about them and jamm them.

    Do you have some russian informations about russian radar tracking F-22 in Syria ? Idk russian so I can just search about English and french sources, not the best about russian stuff ...
    And what models are the radars?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Isos on Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:11 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Isos wrote:Since the begining of the oprations in Syria, Russia has deployed several radars near Turkey ( NATO). What information can NATO get with electroonic intelligence about them ? They are using some ancient radar that aren't PESA or AESA, it's easier to get informations about them and jamm them.

    Do you have some russian informations about russian radar tracking F-22 in Syria ? Idk russian so I can just search about English and french sources, not the best about russian stuff ...
    And what models are the radars?

    Well, I'm not a specialist in radars. I know there are S-400 radar which new and maybe P-19 (not sur ) soviet era upgrade radar.


    ...What can their (NATO) ELINT/SIGINT collect in Syria? Now that's a real question! Considering how the Pentagon admitted that their having trouble tracking whats going on in Syria. Dat Kras-4 bruh!

    I red something about US/NATO having to turn off their communication system in Syria because Russian's ELINT Twisted Evil
    However we can be sure that NATO are analysing russia's radar. I remember an interview of a US pilot about Red Flag saying that French Rafale were constently near Indian's Su30 trying to catch some signals from the radar which stupid as they were not allowed to turn them on.
    Moreover there were an incident with a Russian Su 30 which locked on two turkish f 16 during 5 min in Syria. They can also get informations about Russian jamming systems.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:05 am

    It is an ideal opportunity for the S-400 to look at NATO aircraft... wonder where the F-22 has gone now... they kept talking about its first deployment into the ME... not much is said about it at the moment though.

    Best place to work out the bugs in a low threat environment.

    Experience can only make it even better.
    Plus most systems like that have peace time mode and combat mode to prevent giving away operational frequencies and procedures... I am sure it would still be useful in B mode...


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:56 pm

    Yes, the US said F-22 was deployed in Syria and has bombed ISIS, so far ISIS only grew under US money and arms bombardment, does not let the US military shine not for educated not for MSM sheeps either way. I doubt F-22 ever were deployed there in first place, no effort using F-22 unless they were not strictly and exclusivley used against SAA and their Panzir-S1 and what SHORAD systems there were, intel.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  max steel on Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:49 am

    Werewolf wrote:Yes, the US said F-22 was deployed in Syria and has bombed ISIS, so far ISIS only grew under US money and arms bombardment, does not let the US military shine not for educated not for MSM sheeps either way. I doubt F-22 ever were deployed there in first place, no effort using F-22 unless they were not strictly and exclusivley used against SAA and their Panzir-S1 and what SHORAD systems there were, intel.

    F-22 was used in airstrikes against isis in syria.


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:30 am

    MOSCOW, 5 April. / TASS /. Modern radar "Sky-Y" entered service division of the Western Military District troops radio (ZVO). The journalists said the head of the press service of the district Colonel Igor Mugina.

    "Radar is designed to detect, coordinate measuring and tracking aerial targets different categories of aircraft to cruise and guided missiles, including small size hypersonic ballistic and subtle, using stealth technology" stealth "at a distance of 600 km," - he explained .

    The station is able to determine the nationality of the aircraft objects and zapelengovat directors jamming. A station can operate automatically, independently and as part of a control system of the compounds.

    "Overall, quality performance gosobonzakaza in the past two years has allowed the complex to re-equip the system of aerospace defense ZVO, thus creating a continuous radar field and providing one hundred percent control of the airspace in the area of ​​responsibility," - said Mugina.


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Austin on Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:33 pm

    Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:36 pm

    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/

    I think you were part of the chat with Jo and Berkut on the keypub forums regarding Russian GaN modules.  We also talked about on this forums:
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3924p90-pak-fa-t-50-news-2#101239

    Angstrom completed experimental development "siloviki-6A"


    By order of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey ", JSC" Angstrom "exercised MF OCD" siloviki-6A ".

    R & D was carried out with the aim of developing and mastering mass production of silicon chips intelligent transistor switches in open-frame design for the modulator power amplifier power MRP AFAR X- and P-band based on GaAs and of GaN-transistors:

    Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaAs-transistor;
    Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaN-transistors.


    Developed intelligent silicon transistor switches are complete functional units, which include the latest semiconductor switching elements with built-in protection.

    Using the developed transistor switches based on this technology as part of the equipment of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "allows you to:

    improve the technological level, reliability and durability of the equipment;
    reduce the weight and size parameters at 20-25%;
    reduce equipment costs by 20-30%.


    Silicon transistor switch used to power modulators, power amplifiers based on GaAs-transistor is a functional analogue of Smart key - BTS640 company Infineon Technologies AS (Germany).

    For silicon transistor switch used for power amplifiers modulators power GaN-based transistors, direct domestic and foreign counterparts absent.

    As a result of the work we received positive feedback from the OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "- the customer OCD" siloviki-6. "
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:16 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/

    I think you were part of the chat with Jo and Berkut on the keypub forums regarding Russian GaN modules.  We also talked about on this forums:
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3924p90-pak-fa-t-50-news-2#101239

    Angstrom completed experimental development "siloviki-6A"


    By order of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey ", JSC" Angstrom "exercised MF OCD" siloviki-6A ".

    R & D was carried out with the aim of developing and mastering mass production of silicon chips intelligent transistor switches in open-frame design for the modulator power amplifier power MRP AFAR X- and P-band based on GaAs and of GaN-transistors:

       Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaAs-transistor;
       Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaN-transistors.


    Developed intelligent silicon transistor switches are complete functional units, which include the latest semiconductor switching elements with built-in protection.

    Using the developed transistor switches based on this technology as part of the equipment of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "allows you to:

       improve the technological level, reliability and durability of the equipment;
       reduce the weight and size parameters at 20-25%;
       reduce equipment costs by 20-30%.


    Silicon transistor switch used to power modulators, power amplifiers based on GaAs-transistor is a functional analogue of Smart key - BTS640 company Infineon Technologies AS (Germany).

    For silicon transistor switch used for power amplifiers modulators power GaN-based transistors, direct domestic and foreign counterparts absent.

    As a result of the work we received positive feedback from the OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "- the customer OCD" siloviki-6. "

    Even those figures are a small fragment of the whole picture/puzzle, as it doesn't figure in the Photonics revolution that'll be making it's debut in 2018-20.

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Austin on Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:16 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/

    I think you were part of the chat with Jo and Berkut on the keypub forums regarding Russian GaN modules.  We also talked about on this forums:
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3924p90-pak-fa-t-50-news-2#101239

    Angstrom completed experimental development "siloviki-6A"


    By order of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey ", JSC" Angstrom "exercised MF OCD" siloviki-6A ".

    R & D was carried out with the aim of developing and mastering mass production of silicon chips intelligent transistor switches in open-frame design for the modulator power amplifier power MRP AFAR X- and P-band based on GaAs and of GaN-transistors:

       Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaAs-transistor;
       Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaN-transistors.


    Developed intelligent silicon transistor switches are complete functional units, which include the latest semiconductor switching elements with built-in protection.

    Using the developed transistor switches based on this technology as part of the equipment of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "allows you to:

       improve the technological level, reliability and durability of the equipment;
       reduce the weight and size parameters at 20-25%;
       reduce equipment costs by 20-30%.


    Silicon transistor switch used to power modulators, power amplifiers based on GaAs-transistor is a functional analogue of Smart key - BTS640 company Infineon Technologies AS (Germany).

    For silicon transistor switch used for power amplifiers modulators power GaN-based transistors, direct domestic and foreign counterparts absent.

    As a result of the work we received positive feedback from the OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "- the customer OCD" siloviki-6. "

    Thanks I don't really remember the keypubs discussion so can we expect S-500 radar to have GaN module or some other radar ?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:23 am

    Austin wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/

    I think you were part of the chat with Jo and Berkut on the keypub forums regarding Russian GaN modules.  We also talked about on this forums:
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3924p90-pak-fa-t-50-news-2#101239

    Angstrom completed experimental development "siloviki-6A"


    By order of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey ", JSC" Angstrom "exercised MF OCD" siloviki-6A ".

    R & D was carried out with the aim of developing and mastering mass production of silicon chips intelligent transistor switches in open-frame design for the modulator power amplifier power MRP AFAR X- and P-band based on GaAs and of GaN-transistors:

       Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaAs-transistor;
       Silicon modulators keys for power amplifiers in sostave- equipment OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "on the basis of GaN-transistors.


    Developed intelligent silicon transistor switches are complete functional units, which include the latest semiconductor switching elements with built-in protection.

    Using the developed transistor switches based on this technology as part of the equipment of OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "allows you to:

       improve the technological level, reliability and durability of the equipment;
       reduce the weight and size parameters at 20-25%;
       reduce equipment costs by 20-30%.


    Silicon transistor switch used to power modulators, power amplifiers based on GaAs-transistor is a functional analogue of Smart key - BTS640 company Infineon Technologies AS (Germany).

    For silicon transistor switch used for power amplifiers modulators power GaN-based transistors, direct domestic and foreign counterparts absent.

    As a result of the work we received positive feedback from the OJSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "- the customer OCD" siloviki-6. "

    Thanks I don't really remember the keypubs discussion so can we expect S-500 radar to have GaN module or some other radar ?

    Dunno, hard to say. I imagine it is the radar that is really holding back the development of S-500 so far as the project has been ongoing for years. And this is from a couple of years ago. So I assume that they either already have it working or are still working on it. Russia has come really far in its development of GaAS modules and there is word and even evidence of Russian GaN modules but we know even less about them. All we know is that Rostec is really behind its development.

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  victor1985 on Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:36 pm

    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/
    what is so special at those Gan modules?
    if it is about weight well i think that doesnt matter for a truck like s400.....maibe for a handheld radio or something....

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Austin on Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:24 am

    [quote="victor1985"]
    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a17100/patriot-missiles-radar-gallium-nitride/
    what is so special at those Gan modules?
    if it is about weight well i think that doesnt matter for a truck like s400.....maibe for a handheld radio or something.... [/quote

    Lighter Weight , Long Life , Twice the Power Output , Twice the Range , Cheaper atleast once it goes into production

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    Post  Singular_trafo on Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:51 am

    [quote="Austin"]
    victor1985 wrote:
    Austin wrote:Came across this info on upgraded radar for patriot using GaN module , Does Russia have any GaN project for AESA , I believe so far they are all using GaA TR module

    what is so special at those Gan modules?
    if it is about weight well i think that doesnt matter for a truck like s400.....maibe for a handheld radio or something.... [/quote

    Lighter Weight , Long Life , Twice the Power Output , Twice the Range , Cheaper atleast once it goes into production

    Not cheaper.

    It is a nice update to the emitors of the AESA radars, the GaAs has lower efficiency than the GaN, it means smaller size, less power and less cooling requirements.

    It is not so critical in the land based radadars, it is good to have on airborne radars.


    However he stealth anyway pushed up the wavelenght, that push down the emitter module count in the radars, so the benefit smaller or marginal than it should be say 30 years ago.

    Additionaly the stealth put more emphasis onto the receiver logic , that is the critical infrastructure part now.

    That is the reason why Russia spent a lot of money into the Elbrus cpu development, that is more critical than the GaN for the radars.


    I think they will work in the comming years on the GaAs anyway, they need that for the MRAM spin transfer torque mechanism .

    And at the moment the biggest priority for russia is to manufactre high speed spaceborn cpus an memories.

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