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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  Zivo on Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:24 am

    max steel wrote:Do Kornets really have a range of 10 km?

    IIRC, only the thermobaric version. The HEAT variant is like 8.




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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:18 am

    There's a persistent rumour that Russia has gotten hold of a batch of Spike MR. Last Winter.

    My Iz friends are insisting its through official channel.

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:11 am

    I doubt it. There is too much of a push on localized everything, there wouldn't be room for it. They pretty much stopped all imports of foreign military equipment, even subcomponents.

    It would have had to be from before or early 2014.

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:44 am

    sepheronx wrote:I doubt it. There is too much of a push on localized everything, there wouldn't be room for it. They pretty much stopped all imports of foreign military equipment, even subcomponents.

    It would have had to be from before or early 2014.

    It's not an import, it's a "gift"...part of the Washington paranoïa package. This pushed Washington to make Sure Israel doesn't sell anything to Russia.

    Also the Chinese have already benefitted from Israeli gifts to make their own HJ-12. Which is a Chinese mix between Javelin and Spike SR.




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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:49 am

    I see. Guess if they did get it, may get the knowhow from it when developing hermes.

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:57 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:I doubt it. There is too much of a push on localized everything, there wouldn't be room for it. They pretty much stopped all imports of foreign military equipment, even subcomponents.

    It would have had to be from before or early 2014.

    It's not an import, it's a "gift"...part of the Washington paranoïa package. This pushed Washington to make Sure Israel doesn't sell anything to Russia.

    Also the Chinese have already benefitted from Israeli gifts to make their own HJ-12. Which is a Chinese mix between Javelin and Spike SR.




    Russia's been there done that. Back in the 90's they had a program to produce a top attack ATGM, and it didn't get any where, probably because they're gimmicky and easily defeated by PPS.

    As far Israeli gifts to China, there's a reason why China has been successful in military industrial espionage, largely because naive limp-wristed U.S. based neo-cons leave the 'backdoor' open (interpret it how you want to) for Israeli's, the rise of China's MIC is largely because of Russian and Israeli ToT....oh sweet poetic justice... lol1

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:06 am

    sepheronx wrote:I see. Guess if they did get it, may get the knowhow from it when developing hermes.

    Hermes is already on par with the heavy Tamuz. So there's nothing to "learn" from Spike MR regarding Hermes. The biggest thing might be the miniaturization of visual control units, although it isn't more complicated than a drone.

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  Austin on Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:29 am

    Turkish tank survives Kornet missile strike

    http://www.janes.com/article/59682/turkish-tank-survives-kornet-missile-strike

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:35 am

    Took a while for the propaganda to appear. It only survived due to a piss poor shot and more or less miss.

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  Militarov on Fri May 13, 2016 4:54 pm



    What Jordanians presented as Kornet ATGM launcher on wheeled platform

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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  Book. on Sun May 15, 2016 3:03 am

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    a few questions

    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:26 am

    hi just a few questions if anyone can answer them:

    1) how many does Russia have in service approx or even if anyone knows rough ratio on the following

    AT-4,
    AT-5,
    AT-7,
    AT-13,
    AT-14,

    2) What ATGW do the Russian airborne forces use?

    3) i presume AT-2, AT-3, and SPG-9 are now out of service? i did hear that some upgraded AT-3 were still in service.

    4) how many 9P157-2 Khrizantema-S tank destroyer(BMP-3) are in Russian service?

    5) Which platforms do Russia currently use for AT-6, i.e MT-LB, Mi-24 etc.




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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:31 am

    Not sure about what is in active service now, or numbers but the AT-7 and its upgrade AT-13 were specifically designed to replace old model ATGMs like AT-3.

    They were very low cost short range systems.


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    Re: Russian Army ATGM Thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:22 am

    The portable system of choice for footmobile is the Metis-M1. It's the lightest ATGM in inventory currently.
    Konkurs/Fagot systems are normally always going with the BMP's/BMD's/Trucks. Faktoria launchers complement the mounted systems.

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