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    Defence budget

    Post  Austin on Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:18 am

    Putin: the next decade defense companies will be fully loaded with orders
    http://www.itar-tass.com/ekonomika/828646

    "The funds we allocate to the rearmament of the army and navy, to modernize the military-industrial complex, as you know, is unprecedented - they reach figures in 23 trillion rubles - Putin said. - In the next decade, the country's defense companies will be fully loaded with orders, can upgrade its manufacturing base and create quality jobs. "

    The President recalled that DIC employs more than 2 million people, and with family members - seven million people. "At the specialists will have a stable, well-paid jobs, and hence prosperity in families" - the president said.

    However, he said that should already be thinking about how to be loaded defense companies after SDO in 2020. According to him, it is inconceivable that these companies were not in demand. "I ask the Military Industrial Commission to submit proposals in this regard to our company to timely switch to issue demand on our market and foreign civilian products", - concluded the president.

    "At the moment in the Russian army realized the state armaments program 2011-2020, which involves an unprecedented funding for upgrading and development of the Russian Armed Forces - more than 20 trillion rubles. According to this program, it is assumed that by 2020 the share of modern weapons systems and military Technology in the Russian army will reach 70%, "- said Deputy Minister of Defence previously Yuri Borisov.

    Budget of the Ministry of Defence in the current year after all corrections amount to 2.3 trillion rubles., Said Vladimir Putin in November. The President stressed that the state allocates these funds to defenses were provided for the long term.
    Guilty of disrupting the answer ruble

    December 3, Vladimir Putin signed a law on fines to 1 million rubles. for the failure of the state defense order, passed by the State Duma on November 22 and approved by the Federation Council on November 27.

    Failure to comply with the law in deciding to hold a private auction is subject to penalty for officials from 30 thousand to 50 thousand rubles. The same penalties provided for violation of the procedure for determining the initial or maximum cost of the state contract for the SDO, terms of placing orders for goods and works, goods and payment of the contract in the field of defense procurement. For refusing the sole supplier of a state contract for the SDO will be fine for officials from 30 thousand to 50 thousand rubles., For legal entities from 300 thousand to 1 million rubles.

    The law also increases the statute of limitations for administrative liability for violation of the mandatory requirements for defense products from three months to three years, the obligation to examine such cases are assigned to the Federal Service for Defense Contracts (Rosoboronzakaz) and its territorial bodies.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:53 am

    Russian Military Spending to Increase Next Year Despite Sanctions - Reports


    MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military spending will grow in 2015 as planned despite the economic problems the country is currently facing, the Vedomosti newspaper reports Wednesday citing a note to the draft 2015-2017 federal budget.

    The national defense allocations for the federal budget are planned to increase by 21.2 percent next year, reaching 3.032 trillion rubles ($79 billion).

    "This means real growth in defense spending, since, according to the draft, inflation is expected to stand at 6 percent in 2015. Meanwhile, in 2016 and 2017 the real growth rate in military spending will be negligible and close to inflation: 7.8 percent in 2016, reaching 3.23 trillion rubles [$84 billion], and 4 percent in 2017, reaching 3.36 trillion rubles [$87 billion]," Vedomosti reports.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:12 pm

    Austin wrote:Russian Military Spending to Increase Next Year Despite Sanctions - Reports


    MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military spending will grow in 2015 as planned despite the economic problems the country is currently facing, the Vedomosti newspaper reports Wednesday citing a note to the draft 2015-2017 federal budget.

    The national defense allocations for the federal budget are planned to increase by 21.2 percent next year, reaching 3.032 trillion rubles ($79 billion).

    "This means real growth in defense spending, since, according to the draft, inflation is expected to stand at 6 percent in 2015. Meanwhile, in 2016 and 2017 the real growth rate in military spending will be negligible and close to inflation: 7.8 percent in 2016, reaching 3.23 trillion rubles [$84 billion], and 4 percent in 2017, reaching 3.36 trillion rubles [$87 billion]," Vedomosti reports.

    I just did some back of the envelop calculation of Defence Expenditure from 2011 to 2017 based on what has been spent and what Vedomosti reports

    http://www.foi.se/Documents/foir_3688.pdf

    Defence Budget  ( Trillion Roubles )

    2011 - 1.515 
    2012 - 1.812
    2013 -  2.106
    2014 -  2.49
    2015 -   3.032  ( projected )
    2016 -  3.23     ( projected )
    2017 -  3.36     ( projected )

    Total -  17.545 Trillion 

    SAP Total Funding  ( 20 Trillion + 3 Trillion for MIC ) 

    for 2018 , 2019 , 2020 - Total Spending should be approx  5.45 Trillion

    Approx 1.9 Trillion per year for 3 years

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:00 pm

    Austin wrote:Russian Military Spending to Increase Next Year Despite Sanctions - Reports


    MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military spending will grow in 2015 as planned despite the economic problems the country is currently facing, the Vedomosti newspaper reports Wednesday citing a note to the draft 2015-2017 federal budget.

    The national defense allocations for the federal budget are planned to increase by 21.2 percent next year, reaching 3.032 trillion rubles ($79 billion).

    "This means real growth in defense spending, since, according to the draft, inflation is expected to stand at 6 percent in 2015. Meanwhile, in 2016 and 2017 the real growth rate in military spending will be negligible and close to inflation: 7.8 percent in 2016, reaching 3.23 trillion rubles [$84 billion], and 4 percent in 2017, reaching 3.36 trillion rubles [$87 billion]," Vedomosti reports.
    Good, let's hope it gets put to good use!

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:28 pm

    Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

    Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:10 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

    Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.
    Sounds like another Serdyukov to me.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Mike E on Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:26 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

    Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.
    Sounds like another Serdyukov to me.
    This guy is financial, so I doubt he really cares much about the forces themselves. They can afford it, but they need to cut costs here and there etc (better manage the money going into projects).

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  medo on Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:30 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

    Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

    I think Putin will have to do the same as Medvedev did few years ago, when Kasyanov oppose financing of rearmament program and throw him out from government. Russia is on a brink of big war, WW3 and every cent spend on the denfense is worth a lot, because for every cent, they will not spend on defense, they will have to spend 10 $ for rebuilding of destroyed country. When the war start, it is too late to start investing in defense.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:17 pm

    I dont see it on russian news. That said, they always try to slash the military budget, even when they barely had any money going to military.

    Wont happen.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:59 pm

    This is coming at the same time CB put $2B to help prevent devaluation of Ruble, even though they claimed they wouldnt. Something is fishy here.

    Technically, military spending will benefit more than not with a reduced ruble. meaning cheaper products and the money is recirculated into the economy as workers get paid.

    Maybe insteas, they should demand rubles for oil and gas. That will solve their.ruble problem. Which doesnt seem to be much of a problem.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-08/russia-central-banks-scrambles-halt-plunging-ruble-spends-over-2-billion-last-three-

    In this article, only people complaining is about some food prices (possibly foreign food and also the fact the shops could be committing fraud by overcharging, and people complaining they cant travel to EU and buy goods, what not.). So I have a feeling Putin is allowing all of this so they end up tripping over themselves and they become public enemy #1

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:44 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

    Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

    Radio Free Europe is a Prima Faci case of a U.S. State Dept./Pentagon backed megaphone/echo-chamber/mouth-piece/black-propaganda media outlet, that still propagates the fanciable and fictitious myths and erroneous claims of the current Kiev junta, and I also pointed out in a "white-paper" (obtained through a FOIA request) that proved that Radio Free Europe was one of Stephen Bandera's earliest post-war supporters:

    http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/1705143/STUDIES%20IN%20INTELLIGENCE%20NAZI%20-%20RELATED%20ARTICLES_0015.pdf


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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:50 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I dont see it on russian news. That said, they always try to slash the military budget, even when they barely had any money going to military.

    Wont happen.

    It's Radio Free Europe, the crazy cat lady down the street has just as much credibility. Kudrin was given the boot for a reason, the more the Central Bank push's the 'Siloviki's' buttons, the greater likeness that Glazyev collectively gives them the boot and federalizes the whole damn operation!

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  par far on Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:35 pm

    I really hope that the Russians don't cut any budgets or any corners. If this is done correctly, then in 5-7 years, Russia will see the fruits of their hardwork(more arms exports=more jobs, resources to invest in advanced technology). The money has to go to the military and not to corruption(this is the big deal).

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  par far on Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:11 pm

    par far wrote:I really hope that the Russians don't cut any budgets or any corners. If this is done correctly, then in 5-7 years, Russia will see the fruits of their hardwork(more arms exports=more jobs, resources to invest in advanced technology). The money has to go to the military and not to corruption(this is the big deal).


    The thing about corruption is that almost every army in the world has it, we will never because the mainstream media will never tell us but the US army has the most corruption. If you do research about the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war, then you will see that there was a lot of corruption and billions and billions of dollars were wasted. One the examples is the company that was hired to wash the soldiers uniforms were paid billions of dollars but they were cutting so many corners(using old machines, not enough water and in some causes don't using soap at all. There is video on YouTube where the soldiers are talking about how companies ripped off the US army and nothing was done.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:35 pm

    http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

    Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Mike E on Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:37 pm

    sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

    Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.
    All bark, no bite...

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:42 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

    Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.
    All bark, no bite...

    Who? Defense ministry or Economics minister?

    Economics minister is far from reliable as he cant provide a clear indication on amount of capital outflow or growth. Sad really for an economics minister.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Mike E on Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:47 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

    Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.
    All bark, no bite...

    Who? Defense ministry or Economics minister?

    Economics minister is far from reliable as he cant provide a clear indication on amount of capital outflow or growth. Sad really for an economics minister.

    Who do you think? - The economics minister of course... 

    I've been hearing about funding cuts in the Russian rearmament programs for years now, and as we all know, only the opposite has occurred... - You are right about him though, they already *been* paying for this budget, so why the fuss?

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:00 am

    Mentally diseased monetarists. Massive defense spending is a direct stimulus to the Russian economy. It is what
    the US has been doing for decades and it works. I often hear discussion that amounts to a claim that economy
    knows what spending (money flow) is good and what is bad. No, the economy only cares about money flow. If
    everyone put all their money under their mattress tomorrow, then the whole economy would crash. Cutting defense
    spending will not be beneficial for Russia. That money will likely get squandered in a way where a large part of it
    finds its way outside its borders. This is self-evidently a negative for the GDP.

    They key is not to have corrupt elements like the former defense minister Serdyukov blow billions of dollars on
    foreign contracts.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  TR1 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:23 am

    No.

    In fact the massive US spending is what led to Germany, Japan and others to catch up in the 70s and 80s.

    Defense spending helps an economy up to a small point. Past that it is very dubious as to how much it helps, compared to actual intelligent civilian spending.

    This is Econ 101, not rocket science.
    Trying to push Russia's economy primarily through defense spending is asinine.

    lol @ you bringing up foreign contracts. The total amount the Russian defense industry swindles yearly grossly outpaces any foreign spending.


    Threatening to buy abroad was the only good thing Serdykov did. There is a reason the Russian MIC got so angry about it- hard to sit on your ass when the MOD will not just buy whatever shit you peddle it.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:15 am

    Yeah, then look at the cost of those imported weapons like glocks.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:28 am

    TR1 wrote:No.

    In fact the massive US spending is what led to Germany, Japan and others to catch up in the 70s and 80s.

    Defense spending helps an economy up to a small point. Past that it is very dubious as to how much it helps, compared to actual intelligent civilian spending.

    This is Econ 101, not rocket science.
    Trying to push Russia's economy primarily through defense spending is asinine.

    lol @ you bringing up foreign contracts. The total amount the Russian defense industry swindles yearly grossly outpaces any foreign spending.


    Threatening to buy abroad was the only good thing Serdykov did. There is a reason the Russian MIC got so angry about it- hard to sit on your ass when the MOD will not just buy whatever shit you peddle it.

    A true monetarist believer. The GDP is reduced by expenditure on foreign goods and services unless these goods and services
    are used to produce other goods and services for export and only if the export revenue exceeds import costs. That is Economics 101.

    Serdyukov and his final, finished goods purchase spasms (e.g. Mistrals) would clearly not benefit the Russian GDP. Importing German
    NC machinery did and does benefit Russia's GDP.

    As for your Mickey Mouse view of Russia's economy as some corrupt banana republic, keep on dreaming sunshine. No numbers, no
    facts, just bile. You really belong over at MP.net and you probably are one of the regular trolls there.

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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  TR1 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:31 am

    Just bile is a great explanation for 99% of the posts here.

    Continue your sad circle jerk though Smile .
    Fueling an economy through defense, might be the dumbest thing I have read in weeks. A sad lack of any economic knowlege. Then again, by most of your posts you don't know squat period, certainly not about anything in the military field.

    Russia's economy is corrupt and shitty, I know it is hard to see when you don't step inside its border for two minutes Very Happy .


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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  TR1 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:31 am

    sepheronx wrote:Yeah, then look at the cost of those imported weapons like glocks.

    You don't need to buy things outright in large amounts.

    The threat of doing so is enough, see KAMAZ and suddenly their competence at making decent MRAPs.


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    Re: Military budget of the Russian Federation

    Post  Mike E on Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:45 am

    TR1 wrote:Just bile is a great explanation for 99% of the posts here.

    Continue your sad circle jerk though Smile .
    Fueling an economy through defense, might be the dumbest thing I have read in weeks. A sad lack of any economic knowlege. Then again, by most of your posts you don't know squat period, certainly not about anything in the military field.

    Russia's economy is corrupt and shitty, I know it is hard to see when you don't step inside its border for two minutes Very Happy .
    Typical, spewing crap about others' posts, while yours itself is full of fluff!

    Ever hear of the US economy? It is heavily based in military spending, hence the power of the MIC. Of course you will deny this, because you are having an affair with the US. - This fact cannot be denied, even the hardest of hard core "patriots" here will admit that our economy is directly influenced by the MIC. So, by your definition of the US and its economy being perfect, Russia is heading in the correct direction, right? For all I care you are a Crony Capitalistic Keynesian! 

    Why the obvious Russophobia? Their economy is doing great *considering the level of sanction on top of them*. It has been improving for some time now, and has much less debt (which is what really counts) per capita than most Western countries. TR1, you accuse me of posting crap-filled, idiotic comments, I suggest you look at your own first!

     - Don't even try to say that Western economies are all perfect and that kind of crap. They are *all* bubble-based economies which hide their real problems. - I LIVE in one for crying out loud!

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