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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:10 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
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    What the Hell is this Hobo thing? Are those MLRS tubes attached to the sides? Someones garage project Smile?

    It's a step up from the unarmored dune buggies (which are the alternative) when you consider the options of light tactical transport, and it looks like it'll probably have RPO/Shmel tubes.

    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:10 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!

    True reminds so much of it.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:30 am

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!

    True reminds so much of it.

    Ukraine has already an answer.



    Yes It's a BA-64.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:37 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
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    KoTeMoRe wrote:BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!

    True reminds so much of it.

    Ukraine has already an answer.



    Yes It's a BA-64.

    Omg, i totally forgot about this thing haha Very Happy
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:07 pm

    Russia will start testing a new unmanned version of its Tigr armored car, equipped with a 30-millimeter automatic gun, this year, CEO of the vehicle’s developer Military Industrial Company LCC (VPK) Alexander Krasovitsky told Sputnik.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201702201050853171-russia-tigr-unmanned-car/


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:46 pm

    "Tiger-M" with combat modules BMDU "Arbalet-DM" in the troops

    Protected cars AMN-233114 "Tiger-M" with remote combat remote-controlled modules BMDU "Arbalet-DM" in the combat unit of the Southern Military District of the Armed Forces of Russia.

    BMDU "Arbalet-DM" was developed by OOO "Armory Workshops" (Shchelkovo, Moscow region) and serially produced by OJSC "Kovrov Electromechanical Plant" (Kovrov, Vladimir region). Modules were started by serial delivery to the Ministry of Defense of Russia in 2016.



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2481722.html


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:33 pm

    So the Russians have gone the Classic way and separated sight and gun body. Nice.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:30 am

    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy

    You are always so quick to criticise...

    Do you know what it is for?

    Ontos is not around any more because man portable Metis is superior in every way... but again what does that have to do with this vehicle?


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:08 am

    GarryB wrote:
    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy

    You are always so quick to criticise...

    Do you know what it is for?

    Ontos is not around any more because man portable Metis is superior in every way... but again what does that have to do with this vehicle?

    So lets get armored buggies so they cant anymore be used for what they are intended, and lets weld mean looking tubes to them to be useless balast. Lets call it... super secret Russian buggy.

    Enlight us please, what it is for, i am dying to hear. Mindstorm and kvs must have leaked you some info directly from Kremlin lol1
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:21 am

    Enlight us please, what it is for, i am dying to hear. Mindstorm and kvs must have leaked you some info directly from Kremlin

    That is the point... we don't know what it is for.

    Someone mentioned the open framed dune buggy type vehicles, but that was really just speculation.

    If this was for use in the desert as a dune buggy type vehicle then obvious problems include the fact that it looks like a single seater and that the armour plate seems inadequate and contradictory to the purpose of such light fast vehicles.

    Perhaps the enclosed nature of the vehicle hints that it might not be intended for hot climates like deserts and could be intended for colder wetter climates where an external shell body offers protection from cold and wet conditions... but the fact that it is a single seat vehicle is still a problem for most missions...

    When I first saw it I immediately thought it was a WWII but then still the problem... who is going to operate it... a single seat vehicle is not practical for much except things with suicide in the title.

    Makes me suspect that it is more for a computer game than a real vehicle.

    A two sea tandem model could be fitted with an ATGM setup, but I really don't see it... perhaps an arm that raises a four barrel launcher for Kornet and the optics to guide it to maybe 3-4 metres... but a Tigr is much better for that...


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:59 am

    Militarov wrote:
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    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy

    You are always so quick to criticise...

    Do you know what it is for?

    Ontos is not around any more because man portable Metis is superior in every way... but again what does that have to do with this vehicle?

    So lets get armored buggies so they cant anymore be used for what they are intended, and lets weld mean looking tubes to them to be useless balast. Lets call it... super secret Russian buggy.

    Enlight us please, what it is for, i am dying to hear. Mindstorm and kvs must have leaked you some info directly from Kremlin lol1

    The car is clearly a feasability project. The chassis isn't more different than an IAI RAM 3 or IAI Combat Guard. Weight is always helped out through different means.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  kvs on Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:15 pm

    People have forgotten how painful it was for the USSR to churn out new vehicle designs. These days they sprout
    like mushrooms and too many assume that it was always this way.



    This is all there was during the 1980s. Nice to see Russia has the flexibility to test out new vehicle types and fill
    the gaps.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:29 am

    That is not really true...

    There were plenty of new designs in the Soviet Union... it is just that we never heard about them.

    The AK-74 is a case in point... the west simply believed that the AKM was replaced with a smaller calibre model with a few minor refinements.

    It is now known there were plenty of alternative designs... some quite radical that failed to win but that did not mean they did not exist...


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:46 pm

    kvs wrote:People have forgotten how painful it was for the USSR to churn out new vehicle designs.   These days they sprout
    like mushrooms and too many assume that it was always this way.  



    This is all there was during the 1980s.  Nice to see Russia has the flexibility to test out new vehicle types and fill
    the gaps.

    With a small difference i would actually rather pick Uaz 469 than this. Uaz is a workhorse, donkey.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  eehnie on Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:37 pm

    kvs wrote:People have forgotten how painful it was for the USSR to churn out new vehicle designs.   These days they sprout
    like mushrooms and too many assume that it was always this way.  



    This is all there was during the 1980s.  Nice to see Russia has the flexibility to test out new vehicle types and fill
    the gaps.

    The effort today creating small semiarmoured vehicles maybe too big. I think it is more an effort of the contractors to offer a small armoured solution, but all them are having problems with the tests and are not being finally delivered. They are fairly better than the precedents, but not reaching the current standards for combat vehicles.

    All them seem to be under the BMD-4M/BTR-MD and the Typhoon-K/Typhoon-U 6x6, that passed the tests fairly well and fast. In my view these 4 vehicles would be the right basis for the Airborne Troops, for the Naval Infantry, and for special military forces that need vehicles smaller than the Kurganets and the Boomerang.

    All these smaller vehicles can have a place for the non military security forces and as small transport/utility vehicle for out of contested areas in the military forces.

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