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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:17 am

    eehnie wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    There is some aditional info about which units or something? There is something that assures that these vehicles are in the Russian Armed Forces and not in other internal Security Forces? Some data?

    Something like an ICBM in same column?

    It yould be the first time that you see a security forces vehicle preceding a military vehicle?

    With Vodnik? Right...well....yeah, because police doesnt have any regular patrol cars, mindblown.

    Also its not "security forces", only regular Police is requested to escort such columns if they are passing residental or civilian areas/roads. Other units got jack shit to do with column escort. Most of the time its not even regular police but MP. Regular civilian police is there only and just to clear the path and deal with possible issues in traffic. You know i kinda was myself in at least 10 columns like this and guess what... it was Peugeot 306 leading column not BOV M-86.

    Seriously do you sit whole day and try to think of most retarded questions in history?

    You have zero evidence of this Vodnik being in the Russian Armed Forces. That is all.

    Russian security forces are not like the security forces in the West. You know perfectly well that Security Forces under the President (some) and the minister of Interior (others), have important amounts of military equipment. They had not only Vodniks or BPM-97, there are reports of how they had 20 D-30, 18 2S9, 247 BMP-1, 20 Mi-24/25/35, 30 Ka-27/28/29/31/32/35, 245 BMP-2, 1050 BTR-80 and 12 2S1. Some of the Russian security forces have been and are very similar to military forces.

    Then make not as fatuous your reaction, because you know perfectly well what we are talking about.
    RETARD, 21 code on plates refers toSouthern military district. Tactical sign is of MRB. Those vodniks are military issue. Can someone get this forum rid of such a poster? Only lies and idiocy.

    Unfortunate KoSHeRMoRe, where you learned it? in Brussels or in Oslo? (top European NATO cities)

    Unfortunately your word is evidence of nothing except of how idiot you are. Better if you provide some link.

    Proof of what?

    Black Military plate with 21 indicator? It used to be the North Caucasus district until 2010 now it's the Southern Military district. Garry, Vladimir, someone get this cancer out of the forum please. NOW.

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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:33 am

    eehnie wrote:

    Unfortunate KoSHeRMoRe, where you learned it? in Brussels or in Oslo? (top European NATO cities)

    Unfortunately your word is evidence of nothing except of how idiot you are. Better if you provide some link.













    This is how looks when Police escorts convoys:

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:38 am

    Kotor is right the Southern Military district does employ Vodnik's for security forces. I have seen them there before.

    Granted the first picture where yu have an entire row of them is in Syria, syrians use these things a lot.

    Those plates are russians and I have taken many pictures of such plates on Russian military vehicles.

    Man the attitude here when someone sees something they don't like needs work.

    Vodnik's are perfectly suited for security forces why wouldn't they use them?
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:09 pm

    OK guys.... that is enough.

    Personal insults will be jumped on from now on and I am talking about three day bans.

    Let me be clear if you respond to abuse then you will get a ban too.

    If someone is offensive to you then you can respond in kind and enjoy three days off with them, or you can report it... or just leave it for me to read and deal with the offender.

    The Sad thing is that I learned something new today thanks to Mil and KoTeMoRe, yet I feel compelled to delete a few posts in this thread.

    SeigSoloyvov is quite right... you guys need to reel it back a few notches and calm down...


    Man the attitude here when someone sees something they don't like needs work.

    OK... you have been warned... you control your destiny now... you can behave like kids or you can be mature adults...


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  eehnie on Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:34 pm

    Militarov wrote:This is how looks when Police escorts convoys:


    This is a rough misleading simplification. The Russian security forces, also look like this (as example the former Internal Troops, now merged in the National Guard Forces Command):


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:19 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    Militarov wrote:This is how looks when Police escorts convoys:


    This is a rough misleading simplification. The Russian security forces, also look like this (as example the former Internal Troops, now merged in the National Guard Forces Command):



    Oh sure, they will naturally escort convoys with riot control vehicles. #not

    They also got buses you know? Why dont they use bus?

    Also, we are talking about POLICE, not "Security forces", POLICE. None of the above is police patrol car and has nothing to do with path clearing for military convoys.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  eehnie on Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:15 pm

    Militarov wrote:Oh sure, they will naturally escort convoys with riot control vehicles. #not

    They also got buses you know? Why dont they use bus?

    Also, we are talking about POLICE, not "Security forces", POLICE. None of the above is police patrol car and has nothing to do with path clearing for military convoys.

    Not, but surely have been doing it with Vodniks, that they had at least until recently.

    Also, you are talking about Police, I always talked about Russian security forces.


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:59 pm

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    What the Hell is this Hobo thing? Are those MLRS tubes attached to the sides? Someones garage project Smile?
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:35 am

    BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Arctic_Fox on Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:44 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    here's the video:
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:54 am

    Militarov wrote:
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    What the Hell is this Hobo thing? Are those MLRS tubes attached to the sides? Someones garage project Smile?

    It's a step up from the unarmored dune buggies (which are the alternative) when you consider the options of light tactical transport, and it looks like it'll probably have RPO/Shmel tubes.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:10 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    What the Hell is this Hobo thing? Are those MLRS tubes attached to the sides? Someones garage project Smile?

    It's a step up from the unarmored dune buggies (which are the alternative) when you consider the options of light tactical transport, and it looks like it'll probably have RPO/Shmel tubes.

    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:10 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!

    True reminds so much of it.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:30 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!

    True reminds so much of it.

    Ukraine has already an answer.



    Yes It's a BA-64.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:37 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:BTR 40, you're doing it wrong son!

    True reminds so much of it.

    Ukraine has already an answer.



    Yes It's a BA-64.

    Omg, i totally forgot about this thing haha Very Happy
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:07 pm

    Russia will start testing a new unmanned version of its Tigr armored car, equipped with a 30-millimeter automatic gun, this year, CEO of the vehicle’s developer Military Industrial Company LCC (VPK) Alexander Krasovitsky told Sputnik.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201702201050853171-russia-tigr-unmanned-car/


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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:46 pm

    "Tiger-M" with combat modules BMDU "Arbalet-DM" in the troops

    Protected cars AMN-233114 "Tiger-M" with remote combat remote-controlled modules BMDU "Arbalet-DM" in the combat unit of the Southern Military District of the Armed Forces of Russia.

    BMDU "Arbalet-DM" was developed by OOO "Armory Workshops" (Shchelkovo, Moscow region) and serially produced by OJSC "Kovrov Electromechanical Plant" (Kovrov, Vladimir region). Modules were started by serial delivery to the Ministry of Defense of Russia in 2016.



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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:33 pm

    So the Russians have gone the Classic way and separated sight and gun body. Nice.
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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:30 am

    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy

    You are always so quick to criticise...

    Do you know what it is for?

    Ontos is not around any more because man portable Metis is superior in every way... but again what does that have to do with this vehicle?


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    Re: Infantry Mobility Vehicles

    Post  Militarov on Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:08 am

    GarryB wrote:
    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy

    You are always so quick to criticise...

    Do you know what it is for?

    Ontos is not around any more because man portable Metis is superior in every way... but again what does that have to do with this vehicle?

    So lets get armored buggies so they cant anymore be used for what they are intended, and lets weld mean looking tubes to them to be useless balast. Lets call it... super secret Russian buggy.

    Enlight us please, what it is for, i am dying to hear. Mindstorm and kvs must have leaked you some info directly from Kremlin lol1
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:21 am

    Enlight us please, what it is for, i am dying to hear. Mindstorm and kvs must have leaked you some info directly from Kremlin

    That is the point... we don't know what it is for.

    Someone mentioned the open framed dune buggy type vehicles, but that was really just speculation.

    If this was for use in the desert as a dune buggy type vehicle then obvious problems include the fact that it looks like a single seater and that the armour plate seems inadequate and contradictory to the purpose of such light fast vehicles.

    Perhaps the enclosed nature of the vehicle hints that it might not be intended for hot climates like deserts and could be intended for colder wetter climates where an external shell body offers protection from cold and wet conditions... but the fact that it is a single seat vehicle is still a problem for most missions...

    When I first saw it I immediately thought it was a WWII but then still the problem... who is going to operate it... a single seat vehicle is not practical for much except things with suicide in the title.

    Makes me suspect that it is more for a computer game than a real vehicle.

    A two sea tandem model could be fitted with an ATGM setup, but I really don't see it... perhaps an arm that raises a four barrel launcher for Kornet and the optics to guide it to maybe 3-4 metres... but a Tigr is much better for that...


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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:59 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    There is a reason why buggies are unarmored Smile And there is sure as Hell reason why M50 Ontos is not around anymore too Very Happy

    You are always so quick to criticise...

    Do you know what it is for?

    Ontos is not around any more because man portable Metis is superior in every way... but again what does that have to do with this vehicle?

    So lets get armored buggies so they cant anymore be used for what they are intended, and lets weld mean looking tubes to them to be useless balast. Lets call it... super secret Russian buggy.

    Enlight us please, what it is for, i am dying to hear. Mindstorm and kvs must have leaked you some info directly from Kremlin lol1

    The car is clearly a feasability project. The chassis isn't more different than an IAI RAM 3 or IAI Combat Guard. Weight is always helped out through different means.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:15 pm

    People have forgotten how painful it was for the USSR to churn out new vehicle designs. These days they sprout
    like mushrooms and too many assume that it was always this way.



    This is all there was during the 1980s. Nice to see Russia has the flexibility to test out new vehicle types and fill
    the gaps.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:29 am

    That is not really true...

    There were plenty of new designs in the Soviet Union... it is just that we never heard about them.

    The AK-74 is a case in point... the west simply believed that the AKM was replaced with a smaller calibre model with a few minor refinements.

    It is now known there were plenty of alternative designs... some quite radical that failed to win but that did not mean they did not exist...


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