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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:37 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:so let me understand well: in a battery the chemicals rip electrons from pozitive head so in this creates trought the heads and conductor of circuit and endless no balance of electrons ie the electric current? So how batteries loose power trought time?

    Yes pretty much, I don't know the precise chemical mechanism but yes electrons congregate on one terminal which leaves the other one positive, and this creates a voltage difference between the two terminals which is enough to drive a current when a wire is connected to both terminals.

    The batteries lose power because that chemical reaction is not endless, like any chemical reaction it gradually dies down and then it ends, no more electrons transfer to the negative terminal, thus there is no potential difference between the terminals - and no more voltage to drive a current.
    well i wanna ask :in a car battery there are permanently electrons rip by the chemicals or only when you start the car? The key that you rotate when you start the car what does connect wires from battery to engine in which the curent goes to engine?

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  flamming_python on Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:00 pm

    victor1985 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:so let me understand well: in a battery the chemicals rip electrons from pozitive head so in this creates trought the heads and conductor of circuit and endless no balance of electrons ie the electric current? So how batteries loose power trought time?

    Yes pretty much, I don't know the precise chemical mechanism but yes electrons congregate on one terminal which leaves the other one positive, and this creates a voltage difference between the two terminals which is enough to drive a current when a wire is connected to both terminals.

    The batteries lose power because that chemical reaction is not endless, like any chemical reaction it gradually dies down and then it ends, no more electrons transfer to the negative terminal, thus there is no potential difference between the terminals - and no more voltage to drive a current.
    well i wanna ask :in a car battery there are permanently electrons rip by the chemicals or only when you start the car? The key that you rotate when you start the car what does connect wires from battery to engine in which the curent goes to engine?

    Electrons aren't "permenantly ripped". Listen, go back to all that I wrote and read it again. I won't repeat anything for you, everything's written down already.

    As for what happens when you start the car - well I assume the battery is used to power an electric motor to start the engine.

    I doubt that the key rotation connects any wires; it just flips or connects a switch I would assume, that when connected completes the circuit; allowing current to flow to the starter motor.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:02 am

    A now i got. Are ripped once but is a infinite loop in circuit.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:12 am

    Just i was curious: after the electrons start looping the curent stop at a one specific moment?

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    Passive AD - Russian equipment

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:20 pm

    I know a bit about classical AD systems but almost nothing about passive AD and I know Russia has a lot of these. I know that during Kosovo war Serbs used old radars from MIG-21s to fool US missiles & bombs with some good results.

    What does Russia produce? I know they have some good camouflage kits that significantly reduce target's IR visibility.

    edit - just put as much info as you can get, I want to know every system that Russia produces.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  2SPOOKY4U on Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:57 pm

    Here is an article on East German camouflage experts that used to make decoys for Soviet usage, and still used today to make .

    http://www.dw.de/east-german-army-unit-finds-skills-still-in-demand-after-reunification/a-5796289




    If you type in "russian-made decoys" into Google then you will find good pictures that will give an idea on Soviet/Russian camouflage tactics..

    Here is an article on how Russia managed to conceal and Airbase among nearly all spectrum of reconnaissance.
    http://vpk.name/news/96717_voennyii_aerodrom_sdelali_nevidimyim.html
    http://vpk-news.ru/news/2250


    Here is an article on preventing airborne reconnaissance:
    http://vpk.name/news/126834_myi_mozhem_lishit_aviaciyu_protivnika_vozmozhnosti_vedeniya_razvedki.html




    You will truly realize how effective these can be, even the most powerful air forces in the world could not stand up to an enemy that has significant skills and technology to conceal it's ground movements.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:50 pm

    victor1985 wrote:A now i got.  Are ripped once but is a infinite loop in circuit.

    Right

    victor1985 wrote:Just i was curious: after the electrons start looping the curent stop at a one specific moment?

    The current will stop the instant the circuit is broken (and thus the resistance shoots up far too high for current to flow given the voltage in the circuit), or when the voltage has died down to the point where the current cannot continue circulating against the wire's natural resistance anymore.

    Basically all you need to know is given by the formula I = V/R, where I is current (ampears), V is voltage (volts) and R is resistance (ohms).

    If the resistance becomes too high relative to the voltage, as a result of the circuit breaking lets say, the current will become very low (effectively there would be no more current).

    Similarly, when the voltage starts to ebb and decrease as the battery's chemical processes die down, then using the same formula it's easy to see how the current will decrease too.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  GarryB on Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:29 am

    For Lothar.... here is a list of recon and EW sets and sytems from this book:

    Encyclopedia "Russia’s Arms and Technologies. The XXI Century Encyclopedia"
    Volume 13 — "Control, Communication and Radio Electronic Warfare Systems".

    RECONNAISSANCE AND RADIO ELECTRONIC WARFARE SETS AND SYSTEMS

    The development state and prospects for radio electronic warfare systems and complexes

    Ground-based means of radio electronic warfare

    R-330K automated control station

    R-330K-01 automated control station

    R-330KMB mobile automated control station

    R-378A anti SW communications automated jamming station

    R-378B anti SW communications automated jamming station

    R-330B anti VHF communications automated jamming station

    R-330T anti VHF communications automated jamming station

    R-325U anti SW communications automated jamming station

    RP-330A-RM1 spot electronic countermeasures set receiver

    R-934B computer-aided electronic countermeasures set

    AKUP-1 ground-based electronic countermeasures control system

    Mobile automated electronic countermeasures system

    SPN-2 high-power ground-based jamming station

    SPN-3 high-power ground-based jamming station

    SPN-4 high-power ground-based jamming station

    SPN-30 upgraded jamming station

    Modernized type SPN-40 active jamming station

    TOSP-248 trainer for operators of SPN-2 and SPN-4 jammers

    Pelena-1 high-power ground-based jamming system

    Ground-based system for jamming the radars of hostile surveillance and strike systems

    Ground-based low-power jamming transmitter system

    Topol-E ground-based electronic countermeasures set

    Gazetchik-E system of radar protection against antiradar missiles

    SPR-2 system for jamming radio fuzes for artillery munitions

    RP-377 UVM1, RP-377 UVM2 and RP-377 UVM3 small-size portable and transportable jammers

    Atlant small-size high-speed wide-range radio monitoring and jamming equipment

    152-mm 3RB30-1-8 SW and USW jamming artillery kits

    122-mm SW and USW jamming artillery kits

    122-mm 9M519 SW and USW electronic countermeasures unguided rocket-assisted projectile

    Purga portable rocket system

    ATO-40 reconditioned maintenance equipment vehicles

    Konsol mobile maintenance and repair station

    Ship (sea)-based means of radio electronic warfare

    Ship-borne electronic warfare systems

    TK-25E electronic countermeasures system

    MP-401S, MS ship-borne integrated electronic situation presenting and jamming system

    MP-405 ship-borne electronic situation presenting and jamming system

    MP-407 ship-borne electronic suppressor system

    PK-2 ship-borne decoy dispensing system

    PK-10 120-mm ship-borne decoy dispenser system

    PK-16 82-mm ship-borne decoy dispenser system

    140-mm spin-stabilized jamming missiles for PK-2 ship-borne system

    120-mm rounds for PK-10 ship-borne system

    82-mm spin-stabilized jamming missiles for PK-16 ship-borne system

    Podzagolovok-23 basic system of the integrated safeguard of the ship-borne radio-technical facilities against cross-jamming

    Submarine self-defense special-purpose system

    MG-74ME self-propelled multifunction device of sonar countermeasures

    Berilliy-E self-propelled multi-purpose automatically controlled device of sonar countermeasures

    Tunets self-propelled device hidro acoustic suppression of homing torpedoes

    Sprut drifting device of hydro acoustic suppression of homing torpedoes

    Zmei towed device of hydro acoustic suppression of homing torpedoes

    Air means of radio electronic warfare

    Mi-17PG ECM helicopter

    Stroi-PM pilotless airborne jamming complex

    Moshkara VHF remote jamming complex

    Moshkarets remote jamming complex

    L175V ECM complex

    Kedr small-size digital ECM complex

    Kolchuga on-board helicopter protection complex

    Omul ECM system for protection of frontline aircraft

    Gardenia 1FUE jamming station for individual-mutual protection of frontline aircraft

    L005-S active jamming station

    MSP-418K small-size jamming station

    Container-type active jamming stations

    Zashchita-IK optical-electronic suppression station

    ADROS-KT-01AVYe optical-electronic suppression station

    Prospective expendable airborne individual protection means for aircraft

    Bliznets active ejected decoy

    Blesk active towed decoy

    Blesna active towed decoy

    Active towed radar decoy

    UV-26 dispenser

    UV-3A dispenser

    Family of L-150 radar illumination warning stations

    Automated hardware-software complex

    Anti-ballistic missile system countermeasures techniques

    Anti-ballistic missile system countermeasures techniques

    Antimissile defense countermeasures systems

    Warheads concealment means

    Balloon decoys

    Chaffs

    Dummy targets

    Active jamming stations

    Decoys

    Radio, electronic intelligence and monitoring assets

    1L222 Avtobaza ground-based electronic intelligence system

    85V6-A Vega electronic intelligence system

    Orion automatic mobile electronic intelligence station

    85V6-V 3-D electronic intelligence system

    Okhota electronic environment monitoring automated station

    MKTK-1 combined-arms purpose information protection effectiveness radio- and electronic and special control mobile automated complex

    HF frequency range radio emission control complex

    VHF frequency range radio emission control complex

    Automobile direction-finding equipment using a phase interferometry method in VHF range

    Kolchuga electronic intelligence station

    Strekoza unmanned aircraft intelligence complex

    Anti-radiation missile controller (ARM-controller)

    The page to look at the other contents of the book is here:

    http://arsenalrus.com/contents.php?id=7

    with the main information and lots of other books here:

    http://arsenalrus.com/


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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:28 pm

    I want toask: sound waves can be made to spread in one direction like a beam of sound;can radar waves do the same?

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:31 pm

    victor1985 wrote:I want toask: sound waves can be made to spread in one direction like a beam of sound;can radar waves do the same?

    Yes, but both waves reflect on obstacles.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:56 pm

    Ive just read about batteries in which electhrodes are lithium and oxigen. They say this new battery would be 10 times wheightless

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:06 am

    I want tu ask : radio waves when more and more travel far away from emitter they distance one from another? Cause in tris can be used a v transmiting form. More the v sides are closer more signal youll get at returning

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    Russian ECM, EW equipment 2

    Post  Viktor on Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:39 am

    Moscow-1 ECM command post delivered to Russian Army thumbsup

    In the Russian army received the first complexes jamming "Moscow-1"

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:49 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:I want toask: sound waves can be made to spread in one direction like a beam of sound;can radar waves do the same?

    Yes, but both waves reflect on obstacles.
    but would mean a secure way to transmit data also the beam would be more powerfull so longer distance to transmit

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  flamming_python on Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:06 am

    Victor, just as an idea, maybe you should create a new thread in some section of the board - 'Victor's questions', where you put all the questions you want answers to in? Smile

    Or at the very least, compress your questions into one post. Don't create a new post for every question you have - it needlessly inflates the thread.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:58 pm

    If mods accept a such personal thread somewhere in the forum ill put one

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:34 am

    That is a very good idea.


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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  victor1985 on Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:54 am

    Well its done. The topic is in general chat named "qestions and ideas"

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:34 pm

    KRET to deliver the latest EW suites to Russian armed forces
    Russian Aviaton » Tuesday March 17, 2015 15:39 MSK

    Radioelectronic Technologies Concern (KRET) has completed preparation of three Mi-8-MTPR1 helicopters (it is a Mi-8MTV-5-1 helicopter with the unique Rychag-AV jammer station installed) for delivery to Russian armed forces. This system protects aircraft, helicopters, UAVs, ground vehicles, and ships from air attacks and enemy air defense systems within a radius of several hundred kilometers, KRET’s press-service reports.

    “In 2014 KRET successfully fulfilled the state defense order under long-term contracts with Russian Ministry of Defense, - KRET CEO Nikolai Kolesov said. This year the concern continues timely deliveries of cutting-edge products in key areas”.

    The Rychag-AV jammer station can completely “blind” the enemy within a radius of several hundred kilometers. Moreover, the Rychag system has a database of different military equipment, which allows it to define the type of target and choose the most efficient type of interference. The new Rychag-AV stations are based on multi-beam antenna arrays. The station uses DRFM (Digital Radio Frequency Memory) technology, which ensures stable signal reception and radar jamming throughout the station’s range, KRET explained.

    The system’s components are produced in Russia and it is a unique one (has no analogues). The station offers a great versatility, as it can be installed on helicopters and aircraft as well as static facilities or moving vehicles, including ships. A predecessor of this new helicopter system, the Smalt jammer station designed for protection of groups of aircraft, was developed in the 1970s. The station was located in a UAZ trailer and had a range of only 100 km.

    The latest helicopter Mi-8MTPR-1 is designed for reconnaissance and suppression of radio-electronic systems designed for controlling enemy troops as well as enemy weapons (air defense systems, artillery, anti-aircraft and anti-aircraft artillery systems, and fighters), KRET added.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:22 am

    Russian Army to Receive 20 New EWF Systems

    About 20 types of advanced electronic warfare (EWF) equipment will be supplied to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation as part of the state defence order in 2015. It is expected to complete developing and start purchasing at least 10 products in the near future. This information was presented by the press service of the Russian Defence Ministry.

    The new EWF systems will comprise jamming, radar and navigation equipment, facilities for protection from high-precision weapons, and control devices. The most important facilities include Krasukha-2O, Murmansk-BN, Borisoglebsk-2, Krasukha-S4 and Svet-KU. In addition, the manufacturer has successfully completed state tests of the Lorandit-M radio control and jamming complex that meets all modern requirements for mobility and reliability.

    It should be noted that EWF systems are one of the most knowledge-intensive types of military equipment incorporating innovative solutions and technologies.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:59 am

    'Murmansk-BN' Long Range Jammer  - 5000 km range



    From what I gather, it was first tested during the Zapad 2013 exercise and has started entering service in late 2014.


    Within the framework of a sudden inspection readiness of Russian Armed Forces units of electronic warfare (EW) of the Northern Fleet (NF), the first to use the newest complex "Murmansk-BN", said the head of the center of electronic warfare NF captain second rank Dmitry Popov.

    " Murmansk-BN "is capable of disorganizing command & control of potential enemy. He works at a distance of more than 5 000 km "- quoted statement Popov RIA" Novosti ".

    According to him, these complexes are the basis of categories of naval electronic warfare. "Murmansk-BN" came to NF in December 2014 and has already been successfully mastered by the personnel. The complex is radio reconnaissance, interception of enemy signals and their suppression. It works around the shortwave bands.

    "Today, our task - to prevent the transfer of data from the reconnaissance aircraft for its imaginary enemy aircraft. Task carried out in real-time, fully completed ", - concluded Popov.

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    Looks like it's also entered service with the Baltic and Black Sea Fleets EW units

    Photo Report from Russian Baltic Fleet's Ground & Coastal Forces' Electronic Warfare unit
    https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/522485868242960384/photo/1

    Russian Black Sea Fleet receives Electronic Warfare System «Murmansk-BN»
    https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/540047595419496448/photo/1

    Here's a video of some EW systems. The Murmansk-BN is mentioned at the end


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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:20 am

    Watched the vid... interesting... but saw this vid:



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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:25 am

    Cyberspec wrote:'Murmansk-BN' Long Range Jammer  - 5000 km range



    From what I gather, it was first tested during the Zapad 2013 exercise and has started entering service in late 2014.


    Within the framework of a sudden inspection readiness of Russian Armed Forces units of electronic warfare (EW) of the Northern Fleet (NF), the first to use the newest complex "Murmansk-BN", said the head of the center of electronic warfare NF captain second rank Dmitry Popov.

    " Murmansk-BN "is capable of disorganizing command & control of potential enemy. He works at a distance of more than 5 000 km "- quoted statement Popov RIA" Novosti ".

    According to him, these complexes are the basis of categories of naval electronic warfare. "Murmansk-BN" came to NF in December 2014 and has already been successfully mastered by the personnel. The complex is radio reconnaissance, interception of enemy signals and their suppression. It works around the shortwave bands.

    "Today, our task - to prevent the transfer of data from the reconnaissance aircraft for its imaginary enemy aircraft. Task carried out in real-time, fully completed ", - concluded Popov.

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    Looks like it's also entered service with the Baltic and Black Sea Fleets EW units

    Photo Report from Russian Baltic Fleet's Ground & Coastal Forces' Electronic Warfare unit
    https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/522485868242960384/photo/1

    Russian Black Sea Fleet receives Electronic Warfare System «Murmansk-BN»
    https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/540047595419496448/photo/1

    Here's a video of some EW systems. The Murmansk-BN is mentioned at the end


    +1, that 'Murmansk-BN' sounds like a monstrosity of a system! At 5,000 km range were not talking about an ordinary system, were talking about a 'strategic-level' system, that could radically change the outcome of a battlefield because of it's power and range...I mean if it's capable of spoofing and frying electronics at a massive standoff range of 5000 km, could you imagine how powerful it would be at 2,500 km, 1,000 km, 500 km, or 250 km range? Combined with the fact that the systems are heavily situated in Kaliningrad and in Crimea, NATO will be in a world of hurt if they decide to get 'uppity'. Garry whats your view on the strategic importance of this new system?

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:37 am

    With that sort of range it is quite astounding... I suspect it interferes with signals and creates false decoys at that range rather than pure jams them....


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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:55 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:+1, that 'Murmansk-BN' sounds like a monstrosity of a system! At 5,000 km range were not talking about an ordinary system, were talking about a 'strategic-level' system, that could radically change the outcome of a battlefield because of it's power and range...I mean if it's capable of spoofing and frying electronics at a massive standoff range of 5000 km, could you imagine how powerful it would be at 2,500 km, 1,000 km, 500 km, or 250 km range? Combined with the fact that the systems are heavily situated in Kaliningrad and in Crimea, NATO will be in a world of hurt if they decide to get 'uppity'. Garry whats your view on the strategic importance of this new system?

    Yeah, it's a monster....in the video I posted, they were jamming a radar in the the Kola peninsula from Kursk, a distance of over 2500 km

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