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    Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:49 am

    Hi, like everyone can see this thread is about EW reports and happenings, post everything you know when its possible with source.

    What i am personally interested in is, that there were EW happenings where radars "burnt through" as result of foreign EW.

    Can someone give any precise informations about such happenings maybe with source?

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:18 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    What i am personally interested in is, that there were EW happenings where radars "burnt through" as result of foreign EW.
    Can someone give any precise informations about such happenings maybe with source?

    What do you mean by "Burnt through" anyway ?

    If you mean that the "burnt through" is that the radar being destroyed or have its receiver burned to bits by EW..then it is incorrect as there are no jammer in the world having the power aperture product to literally burn radar receiver. If such happening anyway then it's either the radar is too close to jammer or it's not a jammer but a microwave based Directed Energy Weapon.

    But if you mean "Burn Through range" where the radar is able to overpower the jammer emission and get enough skin return for detection.. then it's EW's doing and for example perhaps.. the nearest one i know is during Vietnam war where Russian made S-75 Dvina's SNR-75 is able to "burn through" the jammer and successfully detect target.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:31 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    What do you mean by "Burnt through" anyway ?

    If you mean that the "burnt through" is that the radar being destroyed or have its receiver burned to bits by EW..then it is incorrect as there are no jammer in the world having the power aperture product to literally burn radar receiver. If such happening anyway then it's either the radar is too close to jammer or it's not a jammer but a microwave based Directed Energy Weapon.

    But if you mean "Burn Through range" where the radar is able to overpower the jammer emission and get enough skin return for detection.. then it's EW's doing and for example perhaps.. the nearest one i know is during Vietnam war where Russian made S-75 Dvina's SNR-75 is able to "burn through" the jammer and successfully detect target.

    I meant "Burn Through range".
    Because i find very rare informations or accurate reports about that combat EW,expect the passive EW during Gulf Wars.



    PS: I heared also that EWs in dogfights had literally "burned through" the oppenents radar, i guess the aircraft on the 6' was meant. Also there was Information that one of two Su-27 during very close dogfight had burned its radar through EW, idk sounds like rumors but there are several such informations and even LOMAC had quoted something about that.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:05 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    I meant "Burn Through range".
    Because i find very rare informations or accurate reports about that combat EW,expect the passive EW during Gulf Wars.

    Yes.. admittely there are very rare info on this..I'm also still wondered on what kind of jamming did US used during Operation El-Dorado Valley in 1986 to disrupt S-200 SAM system radar tracking.



    PS: I heared also that EWs in dogfights had literally "burned through" the oppenents radar, i guess the aircraft on the 6' was meant. Also there was Information that one of two Su-27 during very close dogfight had burned its radar through EW, idk sounds like rumors but there are several such informations and even LOMAC had quoted something about that.

    For this however i remembered reading Yefim Gordon's Famous Russian aircraft series about MiG-29 which have some info that the MiG's Radar did interfere with another aircraft's radar during mock combat course.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Mindstorm on Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:48 pm


    For this however i remembered reading Yefim Gordon's Famous Russian aircraft series about MiG-29 which have some info that the MiG's Radar did interfere with another aircraft's radar during mock combat course.

    Yes it is about a DACT exercice against F-15, and was about negation of any fire solution up to trransition to dog-fight range.

    Note that this N019 radar ,in spite being the first version, mounted on the most outdated version of Fulcrum in force with German Luftwaffe was not the downgraded export version - N019E - ; therefore the worrying discovery made during those DACTs was planned by Soviet radar designers to surprise NATO during a major conflict, when no chance or time to develop a countermeasure would have been possible.
    By the way this is the part in question (pag. 291):


    " The F-15 supposedly had an advantage in the form of a more sophisticated radar with longer detection range and a pulse-Doppler main mode giving multiple track-while-scan capability.
    In theory, this would give a flight of F-15s " first-shot, first-kill" capability ,allowing them to destroy most of the opposing MiGs in one swipe and denying the survivors any chance to engage in close combat.
    However the American were in for a rude shock : a DACT session with Luftwaffe's MiG-29s in Germany revealed that the operating frequencies of the fighters' radars were very similar. As a result ,the N019 effectively jammed the opponent's radar, preventing a lock-on and missile launch, whereas the MiG-29 could still track the target and use its R-27s.
    The USAF ordered an urgent and (and costly) upgrade,but the problem persisted -the MiG-29's radar could still "blind" the adversary when switched to full power."




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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:09 pm

    Arguably the best EW systems will be those that capture the adversary radar signal, analyze it, reproduce it, inject false targets into it and transmit it back to the adversary.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:50 am

    Seems like an upgraded version of the Vega is in the works

    Will Russia have new intelligence informational system soon?
    http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_12_03/Will-Russia-have-new-intelligence-informational-system-soon/

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    Post  Viktor on Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:58 pm

    Very interesting system.

    First appeared and showed during the LIMA 2013 military exhibition. I noticed it but had no clue what in the hell was that.

    Well now thanks to Dima we know.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo on Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:34 pm

    http://www.lenta.ru/news/2013/04/24/krasuha/

    Lenta also write, that Russian army received 4 Krasuha-4 complexes. Anyway, good news for Russian electronic warfare units.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Flanky on Mon May 27, 2013 12:58 pm

    Nice - some technical parameters? Anyone?

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    Post  Rpg type 7v on Mon May 27, 2013 2:43 pm

    Is this a joke? Laughing

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    Post  Flanky on Mon May 27, 2013 2:46 pm

    Partly - but not entirely.

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    Post  Rpg type 7v on Mon May 27, 2013 3:24 pm

    reminds me of this.


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    Post  Viktor on Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:12 am

    Two new pictures from Dima



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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:30 am

    'Talisman' - ECM System by 'Defence Initiative' (Belorussia)


     
       

    Work on the creation of "Talisman" was carried out in the period from April 2007 to July 2012. The prototype of the "Talisman" is the electronic countermeasures equipment "Satellite" which is produced by 558 aircraft repair plant in g . Baranovichi ( Belarus ).

    "Satellite" is designed to protect aircraft from guided missiles ( aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles ) to a radar guidance system in the frequency range of 8.0-10.0 GHz (wavelength of ~ 3 cm). The equipment of "Satellite" is included in the program of modernization of the Su-27 and is in service by the Air Force of Kazakhstan.

    Development BKO "Talisman" to ensure the protection of aircraft from guided missiles in the frequency range 4,0-12,0 GHz (wavelengths of ~ 5.3 cm)was completed in January 2011.

    In April 2012, completed the development and testing of the BKO "Talisman" that protects the aircraft from air defense systems in the frequency range 12.0-18.0 GHz (wavelength of ~ 2 cm).

    Developer and manufacturer of BKO "Talisman" is OOO "Defence Initiative", Minsk ( Belarus ).


    Source, including list of missiles it jams in the link below:
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%9A%D0%9E_%C2%AB%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%C2%BB


       


    Brochure
    http://defin.by/products/Talisman.pdf

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:18 pm

    The state defense order for 2013 Complexes "Krasuha 4" is made entirely



    Krasuha-4 delivered in full for year 2013 (2 sets)

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    Post  medo on Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:15 pm

    Excellent, this will improve air defense capabilities.

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    Post  calripson on Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:04 am

    So were 4 or 2 units delivered ? What does two sets mean ? What exactly are the capabilities and function of this system ?

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor on Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:34 am

    calripson wrote:So were 4 or 2 units delivered ? What does two sets mean ? What exactly are the capabilities and function of this system ?
    Sets = battalion sets of ECM equipment. 

    During 2013 Russian Army received 2 battalion sets of Krasuha-4 and now has 6 sets overal because system production started in 2011 meaning KRET production capacity is enough to 

    pop out two battalion sets per year. 

    LINK - here is another link with little more infor about it and pictures from the delivery. 

    Anyway capabilities and function of this system is to blind JSTARS/AWACS/Rivet Joint/ units of the enemy forces but also fighter radar, comunications, smart bombs and missiles up to 

    few hundered kilometers away etc. They work within Russian radar units as part of PVO.

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo on Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:31 pm

    Are Krasuha-2 and Krasuha-4 delivered together or in different sets? How many of them both they got?

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    How many units in a battalion ?

    Post  calripson on Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:06 pm

    How many units make up a battalion ?

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    Post  Rpg type 7v on Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:19 pm

    such a juicy target for harm...

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo on Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:34 pm

    Nah, Pantsir, Tor or Morphei will take care for harm. Wink 

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:58 pm

    10 pieces of 1L262 delivered to Russian Army

    Defense procurement supply systems "Mercury-BM" in 2013 made


    Multifunctional complex "Mercury-BM" is designed to protect personnel and equipment from defeat artillery shells and rockets equipped with different types of radio controlled fuses. In addition, the complex is used for jamming communication and radar systems




    Excellent description from Bastion Karpenko

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    Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  CaptainPakistan on Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:38 pm

    This is a usless system. One F-16 in wild weasel role makes all of this scrap metal. Russia would be better off investing in building a system like Patriot to replace its obsolete S-300.

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