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    Post  Hole on Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:54 pm

    A few years ago Muhammad Yunus said something like "there is a lot of corruption in the west, they just give it other names."

    Donations to parties/politicians
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    Paying large sums for useless speeches
    Paying large sums for useless books
    Declaring someone the "xxx of the year"
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    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:49 am

    Hole wrote:A few years ago Muhammad Yunus said something like "there is a lot of corruption in the west, they just give it other names."

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    That is true. But what you have at the Pentagon is outright 3rd world corruption. There is no sophistication or polish. It is primitive
    rot.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:22 am

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    Cheesy NATO fake stream propaganda. Note that Nicaragua is on the list. If Nicaragua is a "rogue state", then the so-called
    "normal states" are totalitarian bootlicks living under the heel of Washington.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:38 am

    Yes, and news just in... Karl Marx's crave was a communist plot....

    Perhaps they could make their pages more absorbent and two ply and then they would sell more issues to non western countries around the world...
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:30 am



    A sample of the foaming at the mouth hypocrisy of Americans. When they actually fund stooge candidates in Russian elections
    (e.g. Navalny, Nemtsov, etc.) and pay various shills like Politkovskaya to spread NATO propaganda inside Russia, well that's fine.
    But if Russia was to even think of doing the same, that is just Satanic and an attempt to take over the world.

    American propaganda tries to transfer onto Russia every crime that the USA has and is perpetrating. They undermine Venezuela,
    but it is Russia and China who are "guilty" of spreading corruption there. As if nobody knows anything about the decades of
    corrupt juntas that the USA installed in Latin America to serve its imperial needs. For example, the coup against a democratic
    government in Guatemala to secure the United Fruit Company operations (aka plantations and near-slaves working there).
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:30 pm

    This is interesting...

    Regarding a reassessment of WWII by the US...

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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:54 pm

    GarryB wrote:This is interesting...

    Regarding a reassessment of WWII by the US...

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    Nice to see some sanity in the USA. He does make the boiler plate plug for Lend-Lease, but the rest of his talk is very good.

    America was in bed with the Nazis. They basically laundered them avert WWII and initiated all sorts of revisionist history to
    fight the Cold War. One outcome of this revisionism was the Holodomor hoax. In this talk we also see how German war criminals
    were given the chance to frame the western view of the Soviet army. That is why we got the BS about human waves which
    never happened during WWII (Chinese tactics in Korea stand on their own).

    BTW, fooling the enemy is a prime directive of warfare known since before Sun Tzu. Surprise attacks are part of this.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:27 pm



    Russia has adopted a law on securing access to the global internet. Of course the NATO fake stream media and their fellow travelers
    in Russia claim this is about isolation and censorship. Being utter liars they omit the detail that no gateway access is being established
    and Russia currently has many more integration points with the global network than China. The law is about preventing the USA from
    blackmailing Russia by cutting Russia off from the global internet. This is not a trivial problem from Russia. Russia stands to lose
    20 billion rubles per day from any disruption from its access to the global internet.

    The western hysteria about this law highlights the Orwellian nature of western propaganda. Plus is minus and minus is plus. Never,
    ever take any characterization of the situation in Russia on any subject at face value from these blood libeling scumbags.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:02 am

    Nice to see some sanity in the USA. He does make the boiler plate plug for Lend-Lease, but the rest of his talk is very good.

    In his defence he does mention that Lend Lease was largely effective in operation Bagration in the sense that it made it easier... it didn't win the war but it made that operation faster and more effective than it otherwise would have.

    The important thing is that this guy teaches their military... but not their politicians...
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    Post  kvs on Thu May 09, 2019 4:17 am

    Another masterpiece of propaganda excrement from "NGO" Bellona.

    https://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/2017-01-russian-fast-reactor-program-stalls-while-economy-plummets

    Hilarious.   The BN-800 was connected to the grid for full commercial operation in 2016.   Russia is producing fuel
    for this reactor:

    https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TVEL-starts-batch-production-of-MOX-fuel-assemblie

    The commercial BN-1200 reactor design is completed:

    http://rosatomnewsletter.com/2017/05/31/okbm-afrikantov-completed-bn-1200-design/

    The only issue is tweaking the fuel mixture and layout design based on experience with the BN-800.

    The only thing that is stalling is the IQ of the western Russia haters and their fellow travelers in Russia.
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    Post  Hole on Thu May 09, 2019 9:48 am

    Plummeting economy. Laughing Laughing
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    Post  Kimppis on Thu May 09, 2019 1:04 pm

    Well, the article is from January 2017, so it makes a little (and I do mean a little) more sense. Of course it's total BS regardless, just saying.
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    Post  kvs on Thu May 09, 2019 4:17 pm

    Kimppis wrote:Well, the article is from January 2017, so it makes a little (and I do mean a little) more sense. Of course it's total BS regardless, just saying.

    The western dominated media space is a circle jerk of self-referencing BS. So this article is as current today as it was back in 2017. I have yet to see
    the precious NATO west forget any of the tropes it was bleating already decades ago.

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    Post  Kimppis on Thu May 09, 2019 4:52 pm

    Lol, that's very true. Those tropes never die, or at the very least (in some cases) they are memory-holed, and that's the end of it.

    All those dead journalists, terrible demographics, and the whole "Putin controls all the media and he's becoming increasingly authoritarian, that's why he's so popular" narrative. As I mentioned earlier, it's almost entirely false for numerous reasons to begin with...

    But it would also mean that Putin is doing a TERRIBLE job at being a tyrant of his country – even though he's the Devil behind Trump and Brexit, among millions of other sins – because we've been hearing that since... 2005?
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    Post  GarryB on Fri May 10, 2019 5:45 am

    Well even looking at the article, they admit it is a new area of nuclear power technology, an area the west failed at and gave up upon, but it holds the promise of being able to turn tens of thousands of tons of spent nuclear fuel rod waste into fuel again that can be used over and over... now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that something worth spending a little money and time trying to achieve instead of the western solution of burying spend fuel rods or making them into armour penetration rounds and firing them at enemy during wars on foreign territory essentially poisoning enemy territory but also friendly troops...

    A bit like criticising the Wright Brothers because their entire first flight could have taken place within the wingspan of a Bear bomber and the first two could have taken place between the spread wings of a Blackjack...
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    Post  kvs on Fri May 17, 2019 1:23 am



    An immigrant's story in Canada. Not quite the paradise it's made out to be. I can vouch for what he is saying.

    He mixes Canada and the USA a bit too much. If he was really down on his luck, then he would be much worse off in the USA.

    Things in Canada are rough today compared to the 1990s. This hidden well by the MSM which avoids the subject, but
    there is enough evidence that things have gotten poorer. If anything, the immigrants and dirty money are maintaining a
    Ponzi racket creating the illusion of wealth. When the musical chairs stop, reality will smack Canadian upside the head
    really hard.

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    Post  kvs on Fri May 17, 2019 4:35 am

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    Post  kvs on Thu May 30, 2019 2:54 pm

    https://www.checkpointasia.net/putin-saved-the-amur-leopard-now-brace-yourself-for-msm-headlines-of-putins-leopards-going-on-killing-sprees-and-invading-china/

    Another steaming pile of NATO propaganda excrement. How can these fake stream outlets expect to have any credibility when spewing
    such transparent nonsense? Wolves were re-introduced to Yellowstone National Park in the USA. There were no headlines such
    "Clinton's wolves butchering ranch animals", etc.

    BTW, there was not much fanfare about the protection of the snow leopard compared to similar environmentalism in the west. The difference
    is that Russia and China actually bothered to protect a vast amount of land instead of paying lip service.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:01 am

    Be prepared boys. Next call of duty is US propaganda 101. White helmets and all.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-01/new-call-duty-game-features-white-helmets-nerve-gas-russians-massacring-civilians
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:29 pm

    There was protests (oh boy, yet again) in Arkhangelsk oblast over building a incinerator + gas production garbage dump in a location that no one lived in for 10 years.  People of course paid by US protested and they were shouting slogans like "we are (cant remember name of group) rather than Russian! we don't need Russia!" kind of nonsense.  Now the government is putting it on hold and negotiating with the "locals".  Of course BBC Russia and rest jumped to this with Navalny over it.

    Now Social media will hold Russias development back considerably.

    Here is info about western funding of Russian media:

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:17 am

    miketheterrible wrote:There was protests (oh boy, yet again) in Arkhangelsk oblast over building a incinerator + gas production garbage dump in a location that no one lived in for 10 years.  People of course paid by US protested and they were shouting slogans like "we are (cant remember name of group) rather than Russian! we don't need Russia!" kind of nonsense.  Now the government is putting it on hold and negotiating with the "locals".  Of course BBC Russia and rest jumped to this with Navalny over it.

    Now Social media will hold Russias development back considerably.

    WTF???

    Are these people mentally retarded?.... the F are you then, Mongols?

    Wait, isn't that the place where the Battle on the Ice happened?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:49 am

    Dunno. But now authorities are working with the community.

    I think US and EU has now found a method to really hit at Russia's economy.

    Use paid actors and social media to attack any development anywhere in the country, forcing the authorities to hold the development till negotiations with society. Total horseshit too since no one lived in the area for over 10 years.

    Russian authorities need to get FSB involved to really go after fake media groups like bloggers and foreign media who drums this up.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:04 pm

    The hell?
    I have heard mention of this type of attack from SouthFront, but i simply couldn't believe any Russian would be that stupid.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:25 pm

    Russia has 146+ M people. Of course you will find lots of stupid people. People now more so than ever are easily fooled by social media.

    But that south front article is also exaggerating. While liberals with the aid of western funding and media have of course protested and caused disturbances in and almost all issues, this is going to be a given no matter what - these liberals exist and will exist in all regions. But that doesn't mean they have much support and that is evident by the political structure and during votes. So far, the only parties that get votes are: United Russia, LDPR and Communist Party. And all three are rather hardliners and wouldn't accept any kind of dissolution at all.

    Plus, in the end, this is what the national guard is for. If there is any kind of movement that is actually trying to create some kind of separatism, it would be squashed really quickly. But you don't go in skull bashing at first during protests, especially small ones. Because if you do, you end up creating sympathy for them when there wasn't before hand. You simply just arrest a few, and charge them for disorderly conduct. If they continue though, then expect responses. So what the authorities do is go and ask the locals what they think, not the people that were brought in or the ones who scream the loudest. This in turn gives more authority to the authorities because "majority makes the decisions in a true democracy".
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:37 pm

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