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    KomissarBojanchev

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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:55 am

    In case you haven't noticed your precious "proletariat" wants to be ruled by "bourgeoisie" scum as practice has proven extensively, your nation being one of many prominent examples
    Bullshit. The Bulgarian working class now has to clean toilets in the west, exploited for pennies, because our neoliberal puppet government privatized our industry to the International bourgeoisie which layed them off. Ask most non bourgeois, noveau riche mafia, or western propagandist Bulgarians and they deeply resent how the free market(one of the freest in the world in our country) exploits them. Almost all of them have warm feelings towards the Bulgarian People's Republic(except when it sold of the macedonian Bulgarians to Tito) and realize that the west lied to them.

    Even right after the 1989 bourgeois revolution the Bulgarian socialist party won and it had to be stopped by a US funded bourgeois astroturfing "protest".

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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  Project Canada on Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:21 am

    It seems accusing Russia of election interference is a big hit these days


    Russia meddling in Mexican election: White House aide McMaster

    MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - The Russian government has launched a sophisticated campaign to influence Mexico’s 2018 presidential election and stir up division, a senior White House official said in a video clip published by Mexican newspaper Reforma.

    U.S. National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said in a speech last month to the Washington-based Jamestown Foundation that there was already evidence of Russian meddling in Mexican elections set for July.

    “We’ve seen that this is really a sophisticated effort to polarize democratic societies and pit communities within those societies against each other,” said McMaster in a previously unreported video clip from Dec. 15 that was posted on Twitter by a reporter with Mexican daily newspaper Reforma on Saturday.

    “You’ve seen, actually, initial signs of it in the Mexican presidential campaign already,” said McMaster, a former Army general. He did not elaborate in the clip on how Russia was seeking to influence the election.

    Reforma published a story on Saturday on the comments, which have since been shared many times on social media.

    President Donald Trump’s senior national security aide added in the clip that the U.S. government was concerned by Russia’s use of advanced cyber tools to push propaganda and disinformation.

    A request for comment sent to McMaster’s office at the White House and a request for comment from the Russian government in Moscow were not immediately returned on Sunday.

    The Kremlin has repeatedly denied accusations by U.S. intelligence officials and others of interfering in foreign elections.

    In July, Mexico will elect a new president to succeed Enrique Pena Nieto, who is barred by law from seeking a second six-year term. Congressional seats plus some governors’ races will also be up for grabs.

    According to opinion polls, the frontrunner in the presidential contest is the leftist former mayor of Mexico City, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who is running on an anti-corruption platform.

    Lopez Obrador, a two-time runner-up for the presidency and a divisive figure in Mexican politics for over a decade, is seen by some analysts as the Kremlin’s favorite, given the positive coverage he has received from government-funded media outlets like Sputnik and Russia Today.

    Both China and Russia are taking an increasing interest in Latin America as the United States, under Trump, has adopted a more protectionist stance and the future of the North America Free Trade Agreement looks uncertain.

    Lopez Obrador has been a fierce critic of Pena Nieto’s sweeping energy overhaul, which was favored by U.S. officials and oil companies. He has said he would seek friendly relations with the U.S. government but would demand respect.

    In 2016, Russia Today’s Spanish-language YouTube channel began running a weekly video blog entitled “The Battle for Mexico,” hosted by a prominent supporter of Lopez Obrador, according to David Salvo at the German Marshall Fund of the United States, who has written about Russian attempts to influence politics in Latin America.

    Pena Nieto’s office and the foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment on McMaster’s statement.

    Some Mexican political commentators said that there was little reason yet to fear Russian involvement in the election.

    “The point is that Washington hasn’t provided any solid proof for this,” said Marco Cancino, head of Mexico City-based consultancy Inteligencia Publica.

    “So far, it’s just speculation.”

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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  ATLASCUB on Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:55 am

    Lol the U.S has been extremely successful at controlling its puppet down South for decades. Obrador has been steemied time and again. This is just another ploy to help the Mexican establishment, and mask the actual significant interference.

    Of course the Cubans and Russians prefer anyone but the submissive puppets, even if Obrador is not a Chavez type figure, it's better than crap like Nieto but time and again, their efforts are simply no match for the corruption in the country and influence meddling of the U.S and its puppets - as far as Mexico is concerned - to me, a lost country.

    Better to pool resources on flipping Argentina and Brazil back than the shithole that is Mexico. That country will only be ripe for a good cleansing when the U.S empire collapses. Not until then.

    I will say however, Obrador will sweetly clash with Trump, if on rhetoric alone.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  Kimppis on Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:27 pm

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/417118-biden-russia-enormous-decline/

    Really sums up the level of Russia discourse and expertise in the US and in the West as a whole. Like holy hell. Nothing but a list of Russophobic myths that were outdated 10 years ago.

    And what thell does the "their life expectancy is changing" even mean? That it's rapidly increasing, so much so that the difference with the US is "only" 5-6 years in 2017 (and much smaller, maybe even non-existent by 2030)? Even the UN population projection is like the worst case scenario, it's actually reasonably likely that the population will keep modestly growing until 2050, as it has since 2009.

    Biden's "20 percent decline by 2050", what the fuck man, what the fuck? These idiots are trying to analyze Russian future prospects, while not even knowing that Russia's population has been growing since 2009. And we're living in 2018, or are we!?!? How many so-called "Russia experts" actually know about the population growth, that at this point has been going for a fucking decade? I don't even want to know. They're only capable of repeating those population projections from 20 years ago.

    Western media's Russia coverage keeps delivering. "Fair and balanced." Keep up the good work guys. Biden's comments just perfectly sums up what is wrong with it all... Nothing what is said about Russia, no matter how negative, is ever wrong, in the West you can say whatever the fuck you want, that's how you become a "Russia expert". Crazy stuff...

    Not to mention that oil is less than 10% of Russia's GDP, less than 20% of the consolidated budget and that the remaining oil dependency is rapidly declining overall, but whatever...
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:16 am

    Can any of you guys post content of this article? It's behind paywall and I'm sure it's usual BS but I'm still curious.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-bear-is-on-the-move-9fhkpjg28
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:27 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Can any of you guys post content of this article? It's behind paywall and I'm sure it's usual BS but I'm still curious.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-bear-is-on-the-move-9fhkpjg28

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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  Godric on Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:34 am

    the BBC is essentially the UK propaganda mouthpiece no impartiality whatsoever

    for the past 10 years the BBC has been trying to whitewash Scottish history (i reckon Westminster/Whitehall has played a part in this)

    English history has now become British history a cynical ploy

    here is the latest example



    the complaint from down south is the skin color of some of the people portrayed
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:26 pm

    Not sure where to put this.


    H I Sutton
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    How #Russia is militarizing the #Arctic seabed under the Ice Cap. Original artwork. Full size and further reading at http://www.hisutton.com/Russian_Arctic_Seabed_Capabilities.html …


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    GarryB

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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:47 am

    Oh please John.... Russia militarising the arctic... of all the assets depicted on that poster... the mother sub and the losharik mini sub it is carrying are military... all the rest are civilian and identified as such as part of an iceberg hydrocarbon research category... how the hell is that "militarising the arctic"...

    You could just as easily depict all the US assets in antarctica and have a C-17 military transport as evidence the US is militarising the south pole... derpa derpa derpa.... warning will robinson.

    I realise the title is not yours and the chart might be interesting to some, but when you ask where to put it... can I suggest where it belongs ...put it in the western propaganda section with the other amusing bullshit.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:51 pm

    Fair enough Garry, I did ask, can you move it please?

    We just have to remember that in the eyes of the West there is no civilian Russian underwater activity. This article is an example of that.
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    Temporary western propaganda thread

    Post  kvs on Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:58 pm

    GarryB wrote:Oh please John.... Russia militarising the arctic... of all the assets depicted on that poster... the mother sub and the losharik mini sub it is carrying are military... all the rest are civilian and identified as such as part of an iceberg hydrocarbon research category... how the hell is that "militarising the arctic"...

    You could just as easily depict all the US assets in antarctica and have a C-17 military transport as evidence the US is militarising the south pole... derpa derpa derpa.... warning will robinson.

    I realise the title is not yours and the chart might be interesting to some, but when you ask where to put it... can I suggest where it belongs ...put it in the western propaganda section with the other amusing bullshit.

    Militarizing the Arctic is a diversionary propaganda slogan of NATO. The USA is in the process of deploying its ship-borne "ABM" assets to Russia's northern shores. Considering that this is an attempt to:

    1) neutralize Russia's ICBM response to any NATO attack

    2) a cover for deploying nuclear missiles that can be launched into Russia much faster and thus giving Russia almost no time to respond.

    Russia is doing the right and proper thing of deploying assets to counter this militarization foisted on it by Washington.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:44 am

    We just have to remember that in the eyes of the West there is no civilian Russian underwater activity. This article is an example of that.

    Doesn't mean we should just ignore or accept such deception... even self deception...

    US bases in the region like Greenland are all about peace and democracy and fighting off Russian aggression... dem Ruskies are so aggressive they have troops inside their own territory near the borders where NATO troops have moved to...

    The Funny thing is that when Gorby withdrew Soviet troops from eastern europe he actually expected the US to do the same and withdraw from western europe.... instead they are moving to the borders of Russia... damn aggressive Russians...
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:31 am

    @KVS

    Take a look at this Twitter account
    https://twitter.com/NashaCanada/status/985699385072734208?s=19

    Youre in Toronto, no? It is directed at Russian community. See the shit it writes. We should troll it hard.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:24 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:@KVS

    Take a look at this Twitter account
    https://twitter.com/NashaCanada/status/985699385072734208?s=19

    Youre in Toronto, no? It is directed at Russian community. See the shit it writes. We should troll it hard.

    I am vaguely in Central Canada (no I am not a Kremlin bot, LOL). But I have no social media accounts. This is
    just another shit smearing, tard-ass specimen of "western values". Here is a gem:



    bounce

    Here is what Russia really looks like:





    Canada is just soooooooooo much better:



    As is Exceptionalistan:




    People in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks. But being the retards that they are, they can't control themselves.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:28 am

    Isn't that the entrance to Chayenne Mountain Complex?
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:59 am

    Hahahahaah... someone should make a picture like that showing a Russian side and a US side with the Russian side showing Russian troops helping the victims of terrorists in Syria and the US side supplying weapons and support to the terrorists in Syria...

    Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:26 am

    Werewolf wrote:Isn't that the entrance to Chayenne Mountain Complex?

    It sort of looks like it, but it is some road tunnel probably built around the same time. The NORAD complex has
    the tunnel protruding out of the mountain:



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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:28 am

    GarryB wrote:Hahahahaah... someone should make a picture like that showing a Russian side and a US side with the Russian side showing Russian troops helping the victims of terrorists in Syria and the US side supplying weapons and support to the terrorists in Syria...

    Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...

    The bloody hypocrisy is the thing that really is exceptional!
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  Sprut-B on Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:12 pm

    GarryB wrote:Hahahahaah... someone should make a picture like that showing a Russian side and a US side with the Russian side showing Russian troops helping the victims of terrorists in Syria and the US side supplying weapons and support to the terrorists in Syria...

    Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...

    https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c926ee8c8a2deca306c5e9fc567ae4e3





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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  kvs on Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:47 am



    BBC propagandists would have you believe 2 people out of 146 million.

    Funny how during the Cold War the 5 story Khurschevka's were used as evidence of the poor quality of life in the USSR
    but now are used to bash Russia when they are to be replaced with better housing.

    Note how the BBC liar is omitting the detail that the "eviction" is to new and better housing. Some eviction!
    Also note how the fact that these 5 story blocks were temoprary is omitted as well.

    Nice to see how the real independent journalist from the UK demolishes the BBC propaganda. He also covered the
    terror shelling of population centers in the Donbass and gets regularly abused by the British government.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  kvs on Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:08 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-17/despite-new-tough-sanctions-us-takes-delivery-russian-rocket-engines

    Check out the retards posting below this piece. They keep yammering about the poor construction quality of the engines even
    though no instances of "loose bolts" failure has been noted by the main user of the RD-180, the Atlas V. This is some
    epic indoctrination. Basically, higher level brain function is disabled in these brainwashed loons.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  nomadski on Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:08 am


    The western media is controlled by their " intelligence " service . Not just their media aimed at outside country like Russia or Iran or Korea . But domestic radio and TV . These people see themselves as protectors of the realm . The elite . The cultured . Above and beyond the average man on the street . Their politics is entirely unrealistic . Nothing to do with national interest .

    But should we complain ? Point out their mistakes ? Or allow them their self delusional window on the world ? I tend to think that it may be better to say nothing . Allow them a free hand . Let them believe in their own lies . And be misguided by them . And let us discover what plots they are up to . Too much criticism of their lies only leads them to correcting their blatant lies . Making them more delicate and believable .
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:57 pm

    Looks more and more that Trump is the American Gorbachev. The only subtle difference is that the western liberals unlike the Eastern communists have built a feminine class that prefer to die than man up. We will see if this makes any difference.
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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  kvs on Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:00 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Looks more and more that Trump is the American Gorbachev. The only subtle difference is that the western liberals unlike the Eastern communists have built a feminine class that prefer to die than man up. We will see if this makes any difference.

    That means that events are driving the US into the Gorbachev-USSR "regime". We just do not hear about them from the fake
    stream media.

    I think the days of cheap energy are over and that is a gargantuan hammer blow to the US and western economies. Do not look
    at the oil/gasoline price as intrinsic and objective. The price is manipulated. But there is no such thing as a free lunch. I note
    that the gasoline price I am paying where I live in Canada is much higher than before for the same barrel of oil price. No, the gasoline
    taxes have not gone up. Official inflation cannot explain the price difference either. This tells me that previously the gasoline price
    was being subsidized and that now the subsidy is not as generous. So things are slipping.

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    Re: Western propaganda

    Post  andalusia on Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:57 pm

    Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683

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