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    Su-27SM vs Su-30SM/M2 vs Su-35S. Flankers Comparisons

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    Re: Su-27SM vs Su-30SM/M2 vs Su-35S. Flankers Comparisons

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:47 am

    TR1 wrote:If Irkut made a single seat Su-30, it would NOT have cost less, since they would have needed to make a new production line, new tooling, a whole new testing and trials period, etc etc, entirely defeating the purpose.
    Buying Su-30SM can be defended, but a single seat Irkut Flanker is counterproductive.


    Irkut is phasing out Flanker production by the end of the decade in any case, making a new airframe does not make sense.

    So besides Yak-130, they are dropping out of the fighter market? That would suck. Would be interesting to see what they could come up with.

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    Post  TR1 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:56 am

    They are moving on to big, lucrative commercial contracts (MS-21 in particular) but Yak-130 will remain in production due to large demand until at least 2020. The line was moved from Sokol already, they won't be moving it again.
    Irkut already moved Be-200 production to focus on the bigger fish.

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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:12 am

    TR1 wrote:They are moving on to big, lucrative commercial contracts (MS-21 in particular) but Yak-130 will remain in production due to large demand until at least 2020. The line was moved from Sokol already, they won't be moving it again.
    Irkut already moved Be-200 production to focus on the bigger fish.

    Yak-130 has huge potential on export and so far, it does look pretty good, and same with domestic as well. They just need to push it out more, as I bet many african countries would be quite happy to have it. And then there is Brazil with the potential of getting it as well, especially if Brazil is part of the deal in using their own radar for it. I cannot see them shutting down or moving production of Yak-130 after 2020.

    MS-21 has lots of potential, but the civil market is flooded with foreign jets and Russian commercial jets seem to get bad wrap, even though they are good (Tu-204 has lots of potential but rarely sold), so Irkutsk shouldn't put all their eggs into one basket, especially since that the military market is still very lucrative.

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