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    Post  medo on Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:20 am

    New modern fighters like Su-30M2/SM, Su-34, Su-35, MiG-29K and modernized ones like Su-25SM/3, Su-24M2, MiG-29SMT don't need SVP-24 as their modern fire control and navigation complex already have the same capabilities. SVP-24 will not bring any improvement to them.

    Ka-52 doesn'thave SVP-24 and doesn't need it. It is true, that RuAF will arm Ka-52 with guided and unguided bombs up to 500kg, but it will not get SVP-24. They will only integrate them in its existing FCS and install new software.

    Gefest install SVP-24-50 to single seat attack helicopter Ka-50.

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    In Ka-50 cockpit you could see VM-10 LCD from SVP-24. RuAF got some serial Ka-50 before production of Ka-52 started and they were equipped with SVP-24-50. I don't know, if they are operational now.


    Interesting is, that Su-33 got modified VM-10 LCD with additional buttons around it to make it real MFD in contrast with VM-10 LCD in Tu-22 and Ka-50.

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    On the left pilot could choose in menu up and down. On the right have buttons for SVP, navigation and HUD Picture and additional buttons. In the botton row it have distances for radar ground mapping similar to Su-24M Orion-A radar only with longer range of 300 km. Also it have upper buttons for unknown functions. It actually looks like SVP-24-33 was just part of modernization, which also include other parts. It seems radar was also modernized and become multirole with A-A, A-G and A-S modes. Time will tell, what new armament will Su-33 get with this modernization.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:45 pm

    Does gefest only work with free fall bombs or can it be used to help/aid the use of rockets such as S-24,S-25, S-5/8/13 etc basically unguided rockets
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:46 am

    It is a fire control and navigation system, so it should work by predicting the paths of unguided weapons... both free fall and rocket propelled.

    My understanding of the Mi-35M upgrade (with the under nose optics ball turret) that the introduction of the laser range finder and ballistics computer greatly improved the effective range and accuracy of the cannons and rockets, as well as improving the performance of Ataka and Shturm.
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    Post  medo on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:32 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:Does gefest only work with free fall bombs or can it be used to help/aid the use of rockets such as S-24,S-25, S-5/8/13 etc basically unguided rockets

    Interesting question. SVP-24 could help with target delivery and map, that pilot could better choose how to attack the target. But for attack itself I'm not sure. Those rockets have quite short range and are aimed to the target through HUD or older visier. Unguided rockets are primarily used to cover area, not against single targets. That mean against infantry. For attacking on single target they already have laser guided rockets like S-8KOR, S-13KOR,... Maybe if they increse the range of rockets, than Gefest could help. But new helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-28N and Su-25SM/3 already have modern FCS and don't need SVP-24. It is useful only to upgrade older planes and helicopters, like those in Syria, Iraq, Lybia,... It is interesting, that Gefest didn't install SVP-24 on Mi-24 helicopter.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:56 pm

    Su-24MR reconnaissance plane enters service with air regiment in Russia’s Central Command


    "The Su-24MR has arrived for the composite air division of the 14th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Central Military District stationed in the Chelyabinsk Region," the press office said in a statement.

    The Su-24MR is a tactical reconnaissance plane fitted out with radar reconnaissance equipment and the image-recording capability. It can develop a supersonic speed at extremely low altitudes. For this purpose, the plane’s design offers the variable sweep-wing option. The reconnaissance plane can develop a maximum speed of 1,700 km/h and has a service ceiling of 11,500 meters.

    https://tass.com/defense/1074627


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    Post  franco on Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:00 pm

    George1 wrote:Su-24MR reconnaissance plane enters service with air regiment in Russia’s Central Command


    "The Su-24MR has arrived for the composite air division of the 14th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Central Military District stationed in the Chelyabinsk Region," the press office said in a statement.

    The Su-24MR is a tactical reconnaissance plane fitted out with radar reconnaissance equipment and the image-recording capability. It can develop a supersonic speed at extremely low altitudes. For this purpose, the plane’s design offers the variable sweep-wing option. The reconnaissance plane can develop a maximum speed of 1,700 km/h and has a service ceiling of 11,500 meters.

    https://tass.com/defense/1074627



    This is strange due to the fact that a squadron already is there. Perhaps this is the -24MR aircraft that was just listed as being given a maintenance overhaul.
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    Post  kopyo-21 on Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:19 am

    medo wrote:New modern fighters like Su-30M2/SM, Su-34, Su-35, MiG-29K and modernized ones like Su-25SM/3, Su-24M2, MiG-29SMT don't need SVP-24 as their modern fire control and navigation complex already have the same capabilities. SVP-24 will not bring any improvement to them.
    No, Gefest & T SVP-24 is an unique complex that no any relevant complex in the world can compare with so far. In some live fire exercises, Su-34s showed its capability to drop dumb bombs far less accurate than Su-24M Gefest & T.

    Even now, SVP-24 has been upgraded with new super computers, developed by Era Military Technopolis in Anapa, which make the accuracy of unguided munitions be further improved.

    https://topwar.ru/157691-pricelno-navigacionnyj-kompleks-svp-24-gefest-budet-modernizirovan.html

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