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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:42 pm



    Woow, is the part about the T-90 modernization legit??
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Benya on Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:51 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:

    Woow, is the part about the T-90 modernization legit??

    Of course, they will be modernized to T-90MS "Proviv-3"/"Tagil".

    It will look like this:

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:06 pm

    Interview with the MoD's Chief of Tank - Automotive;

    https://ria.ru/interview/20160909/1476488483.html

    Hi-lights:

    - over 1,000 T-72B3's so far
    - over another 300 improved T-72B3's on their way
    - Tigr-2 looks promising
    - Typhoon 4x4 with 30mm cannon should be tested in special purpose units in 2017
    - T-90's to be upgraded when they have exhausted their resources (worn out sounds like)
    - T-14,T-15 and ARV still under testing through 2017
    - same for Kurganets and Boomerangs, no production starts before 2018
    - MoD purchasing around 200 ATV type vehicles per year
    - work continues on testing and development of all types of vehicle for extreme Northern use
    - no wheeled tank at this time

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:26 am

    - no wheeled tank at this time

    That does not actually surprise me.

    the concept of light (Typhoon) and Medium (Boomerang) wheeled divisions suggest to me light and medium forces that would not be used against opponents with a lot of MBTs in heavily fortified positions or urban areas etc.

    In this case the combination of light gun platforms perhaps armed with a 57mm high velocity gun and support vehicles will 120mm gun/mortars either as mortar carriers or as BMPT type tank support vehicles would make the role of an actual tank redundant.

    Any enemy tanks they might come across could easily be dealt with by Kornet type missiles or even guided artillery shells in top attack mode.


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  VladimirSahin on Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:52 pm

    No news of T-72B3M?
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:24 pm

    VladimirSahin wrote:No news of T-72B3M?

    Would assume that is the improved T-72B3's that he is talking about.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Benya on Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:38 pm

    Russian Army Southern Military District has received 350 new military equipment

    This year Land Forces, coastal troops of the Black Sea Fleet and Caspian Flotilla, Southern MD special formations have received more than 350 pieces of modern armored and automobile vehicles, missile and artillery armament, communication and electronic warfare equipment, engineer hardware, and other equipment.

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    Russian Army BMP-3 in live demonstration

    Tank and motorized rifle units of the combined-arms and foreign military bases are receiving T-72B3 tanks, BMP-3 IFVs, and BTR-82A APCs.

    Aviation and helicopter regiments and brigades of the Southern MD have already received more than 10 pieces of aviation hardware, including Mi-8AMTSh, Su-25SM, and Su-30SM. In total, these formations are to receive about 30 aircraft by the end of 2016.

    In the middle of 2016, S-400 Triumph and Pantsyr-S air defence systems have been deployed in Crimea this year.

    Black Sea Fleet and Caspian Flotilla are to receive about 20 ships, vessels, and motor boats as well as 10 aircraft for naval aviation.

    By the end of 2020, the Southern military district is to be equipped with up to 70% of modern hardware operated by ground, naval, and aviation units.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/october_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russian_army_southern_military_district_has_received_350_new_military_equipment_71110162.html
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Project Canada on Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:25 am




    The FAS found frustrating the state defense order for more than 150 billion rubles

    The Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS Russia) found frustrating performance of state defense order for more than 150 billion rubles. Violations found in the scan FSUE "Spetsstroyinzhiniring" at Special Russia.

    The Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS) has found major violations on the basis of a scheduled inspection of the FSUE "Spetsstroyinzhiniring at Special Russia", including the failure of defense contracts worth more than 150 billion rubles.

    "Spetsstroyinzhiniring" is defined by the Government of the sole executor of design and survey works, construction, overhaul and reconstruction of the Defense Ministry special forces. The company under the jurisdiction of Spetsstroy.

    The audit showed that FSUE actually distribute the work under a state contract between the organizations subordinate Spetsstroy, and other commercial companies, the FAS said.

    "As a result of the lack of proper control over the actions of their subcontractors' Spetsstroyinzhiniring" ripped turnaround time for state contracts totaling more than 150 billion rubles. In addition, the Federal State Unitary Enterprise does not carry out work with claims in respect of involved subcontractors. The size of the detected penalty not to demand from subcontractors, was more than 10 billion rubles, "- said the FAS.

    The audit FAS filed more than 20 cases of administrative offenses in relation to company officials involved in the disruption of the state defense order. On the results of checks to inform the General Prosecutor's Office and the FSB.

    https://defence.ru/article/fas-obnaruzhila-sriv-gosoboronzakaza-bolee-chem-na-150-mlrd-rublei/


    I hope the Defense ministry do more to tackle corruption in arms procurement especially in a time of economic difficulties where every single ruble counts.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:02 pm

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The Russian Armed Forces have received over a dozen aircraft and helicopters, as well as 21 radars and the Bal and Bastion coastal missile defense systems in July-September this year, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Friday.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201610211046574104-russian-army-aircraft-radars/


    The Russian Armed Forces will receive the Veliky Novgorod diesel-electric submarine, two Buk and six Pantsir-S air defense systems in November, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Friday.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201610211046579934-russia-army-submarines/


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:35 pm

    SOCHI, November 15 - RIA Novosti. Since the beginning of the year in the Russian armed forces received more than 5.5 thousand units of equipment, including 190 aircraft and helicopters, a multi-purpose submarine, more than 750 tanks and armored vehicles, said Russian President Vladimir Putin, opening up a series of meetings with the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and defense industry.

    "The troops received more than 5500 units of armaments and military equipment. This includes more than 60 new and 130 upgraded aircraft and helicopters, attack submarines, 60 anti-aircraft missiles, missile systems and complexes, 55 radar stations, 310 new and 460 modernized tanks and armored vehicles in total this year, the planned volume of supply of new and repair 5700 units of major weapons and military hardware, and we expect that they will be handed over to the troops on schedule " Putin said.

    Drawing attention to the meeting, Supreme Commander emphasized that it is important to reinforce the positive groundwork achieved in recent years, to continue to clearly and consistently communicate in the formation and implementation of the state defense order assignments.

    "Such a challenge facing the Ministry of Defence and all the enterprises of the military-industrial complex Secondly, it is necessary to strengthen state control over the efficient spending of the prime contractor and subcontractors of budgetary funds allocated to the state defense order.", - Putin said.

    The head of state instructed to strictly observe the performance discipline in the performance of state defense order. "Discipline must be primarily financial discipline at a high level", - he stressed.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:43 am

    Coming up to the end of the year 2016 and a review of the Air Defense modernization programs to years end;

    - 16 regiments of S.400 active
    - 6 brigades of Buk-M2 active
    - 1 brigade of Buk-M3 active
    - 3-5 brigades of S.300V4 active

    EDIT: in addition there are an unknown number of S.300PM's upgraded to S.300PMU standard.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:56 am

    Ignore the poor headline translation but almost 7,000 new pieces of equipment delivered to the Russian Armed Forces in 2016.

    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20161205/1482813057.html
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:23 am

    Comments from the Ministry of Defense Meetings;

    - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTER SHOIGU: OVER 90% OF RUSSIAN MISSILE LAUNCHERS ARE COMBAT READY
    - Putin: share of modern weapons in Russian nuclear forces nears 60%
    - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTER SHOIGU: 41 BALLISTIC MISSILES ENTERED SERVICE WITH RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES IN 2015 (Note: would assume meant 2016 so 23 ICBM's and 18 SLBM's?)
    - SHOIGU: LEVEL OF RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES STAND-BY UNITS' EQUIPMENT WITH MODERN WEAPONS EXCEEDS 58.3%
    - SHOIGU: 49 ITEMS OF MAIN WEAPONS AND MILITARY HARDWARE WERE NOT DELIVERED TO RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES IN 2016
    - SHOIGU: 35,000 MILITANTS, INCLUDING 204 FIELD COMMANDERS, ELIMINATED IN SYRIA
    - SHOIGU: RUSSIAN AEROSPACE FORCES PERFORM 18,800 FLIGHTS, DELIVER 71,000 STRIKES ON TERRORISTS SINCE BEGINNING OF OPERATION IN SYRIA
    - Russian Armed Forces have 2,000 drones at their disposal - Shoigu
    - SHOIGU: 5 STRATEGIC COMBAT COMPLEXES TO BE DELIVERED TO RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES IN 2017
    - SHOIGU: RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES ENSURED 14% GROWTH OF COMBAT CAPABILITIES IN 2016
    - SHOIGU: 3 REGIMENT SETS WITH MODERN MISSILE SYSTEMS TO BE DELIVERED TO RUSSIAN STRATEGIC FORCES IN 2017
    - Russian armed forces conduct over 3,600 exercises in 2016 - Defense Minister Shoigu
    - Five modernized strategic aircraft to join Russian armed forces in 2017 - Defense Minister Shoigu
    - Russian armed forces' staffing level reaches 93%, all sergeants professional - Defense Minister Shoigu
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:49 pm

    The full report of MoD year end briefing; ^^^
    http://twower.livejournal.com/2047234.html
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    Post  franco on Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:57 pm

    Hi Lights;

    Increased the combat potential of general purpose forces.

    The Army has formed nine compounds including four infantry and one armored division.
    The troops received 2,930 new and upgraded models of weapons. It is possible to retrofit two more missile brigades, two air defense brigades and two anti-aircraft missile regiment, a brigade of special purpose, twelve mechanized infantry and tank battalions, three artillery battalions.
    The level of equipment of the Land Forces with modern weaponry was 42%.

    Aerospace forces received 139 modern aircraft, four anti-aircraft missile regiment rearmed to anti-aircraft missile system S-400 "Triumph". In addition, the forces delivered 25 armored anti-aircraft missile and gun complexes "Carapace-C", and 74 radar stations. The share of modern weapons in the air and space power increased to 66%, and aircraft serviceability - 62%.
    Having successfully completed the state testing of three new radar stations of high factory readiness "Voronezh": Orsk, Barnaul, Yeniseysk. In 2017, they intercede on combat duty.
    Spend the completion of three existing radars in Baranovichi, Murmansk, Pechora and with application of high tech prefabrication.
    All this has allowed for the first time in the history of the new Russia to create a border around the perimeter of our continuous radar field warning system missile attack on all the strategic aerospace and directions to all types of flight trajectories of ballistic missiles.

    The Armed Forces 105 systems delivered this year, including 260 unmanned aerial vehicles. Formed 36 military units and unmanned aircraft.
    Total in service is more than 600 complexes with two thousand drones. For comparison, in 2011 in the Armed Forces was only 180 legacy systems.
    unmanned aviation intensity compared with last year increased by half.

    The composition of the Navy Type 24 surface ships and support vessels, as well as two multi-purpose submarines.
    Facilities navy with modern weapons and equipment increased to 47%.

    The Airborne Troops are formed three reconnaissance battalion and six tank companies, two companies of electronic warfare and unmanned aerial vehicles. Planted 188 new and upgraded armored vehicles. Airborne equipment level modern weapons is 47%.

    A new development was the technical basis for the control system. The troops put 22 thousand modern means of communication, which is 6% more than in 2015. As a result, equipment of the Armed Forces of the modern communication technology increased to 49 per cent.
    On the special control of the Ministry of Defense are problematic questions on undersupplied troops in weapons and equipment. In the current year is 49 units of core samples.

    ... As a result of equipping the Armed Forces with modern weapons and equipment in constant readiness units increased to 58.3%, and serviceability - up to 94%.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:50 pm

    In 2017, the Ministry of Defence to address a number of priorities:

    - First of all - continue to strengthen the combat capabilities of the Armed Forces. Take measures to strengthen the groups of forces in the West, South-West and the Arctic's strategic directions.
    - Ensure timely publication and strict execution of tasks GOZ-2017 and enter the equipment of the Armed Forces with modern weapons and equipment in the units of permanent readiness of more than 60%.
    - According to the strategic nuclear force. To put on combat duty in the Strategic Missile Forces 3 missile regiment equipped with modern missile systems. Enter into service five upgraded strategic aircraft (Tu-160M and Tu-95MSM).
    - According to the general-purpose forces. Put in the Army brigade two sets of missile systems "Iskander-M" and rearm three divisions in the army air defense anti-aircraft missile system "Tor-M2". To ensure the supply of 905 modern (new and upgraded) tanks and armored fighting vehicles.
    - Take in the aerospace and aviation forces of the Navy 170 new and modernized aircraft.
    - Rearmed with four anti-aircraft missile regiment in the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system.
    - In the battle of the Navy to enter the eight surface ships and nine combat boats. In the coastal troops put 4 rocket complex ("Bal" and "Bastion").
    - To ensure the acceptance of the statement and on alert three radars high prefabrication Yeniseysk, Orsk and Barnaul.
    - To launch a second spacecraft Unified space system (EW).
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:06 am

    2016 delivered
    - 139 aircraft,
    - 24 surface ships and supply vessels, 2 multi-purpose submarines,
    - 88 artillery systems and guns, 764 armored combat vehicles.
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    Post  franco on Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:31 pm

    Modernized (new & upgraded) Tank & IFV deliveries:

    2015 - 701
    2016 - 764
    2017 - 905 (planned)
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    Post  franco on Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:34 pm

    Article with the Deputy Minister of Defense in the challenges and success's of Armament Modernization Program;

    https://topwar.ru/106552-postoyanno-izyskivaem-rezervy-chtoby-vypolnit-mayskie-ukazy.html
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  nomadski on Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:19 pm

    IMHO . Why Russia worried ? Why American ship bump Russian ship near Georgia black Sea, and no war ? Why Russian fighter jet does ballet dance with American intruder plane , wing tip to wing tip . Still no war ? Amazing . This move not imaginable by say a country like Iran . War next minute . Why this difference ? Obvious to people . There can be no war between Russia or US . Because any little conflict will soon turn nuclear . Probably within first few days . Everyone dies .

    Here then is the great advantage for Russia . An enemy attacking will either be strong or weak . A strong enemy threatening survival of Russia . Will be annihilated with nukes . A weak enemy not threatening survival of Russia . May not be attacked by full force . Since it becomes politically unacceptable . Only hoping to gain an advantage . By border skirmishes .

    so Russia needs to maintain in good order it's nuclear force . And maintain it's existing conventional forces in ready state ( for defending against weak attacks . Also transfer some arms to allies ) . For both strong and weak attacks . The money it saves , by not expanding it's conventional forces . Can be well spent in research .Into revolutionary and asymmetric weapon systems . Since it will be engaged in defending itself and allies from numerous small scale conflicts against western expansionism .

    Since economy of West and resources is bigger . Then a symmetric response will lead to defeat . They will simply put more ships or planes into operation . The Tank was only a response in wwI . To breaking through minefield and barb wire against infantry small arms fire . And someone defined the requirements and said tractor wheels on that thing is a good idea . If you work from definitions , then modern Tank can be UCAV with ATGM . Hunting infantry positions . Passing through barb wire . But you need to be brave and think outside of box and not be fashion victim . And always do catchup after yank military fashion industry .

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  eehnie on Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:31 pm

    franco wrote:2016 delivered
    - 139 aircraft,
    - 24 surface ships and supply vessels, 2 multi-purpose submarines,
    - 88 artillery systems and guns, 764 armored combat vehicles.

    are included the smaller numbers in the bigger data?

    It would be very interesting to know more about the land armament procured.

    I would expect high relative numbers of Surface-Air weapons and infantry vehicles.

    Also a little question, do you know about the numbers of GMZ-3 engineering vehicles that can be in active service and/or in the reserve in Russia? Just curious.
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    Post  franco on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:28 pm

    are included the smaller numbers in the bigger data? Not sure what you mean.

    It would be very interesting to know more about the land armament procured. Reported receiving 3,000 new major pieces of equipment.

    Maybe this helps. The Airborne Forces received 188 AFV which would include 60 T-72B3. The Ground Forces received ~ 500 AFV's. Suspect about 130 BTR-82A, ~80 BMP-3's and some rebuilt BMP-2M's. The other ~ half would be T-72B3. The Naval Infantry probably got 40 or so BTR-82AM's. Total would not include SPADS or SPArty.

    do you know about the numbers of GMZ-3 engineering vehicles that can be in active service and/or in the reserve in Russia? Not a clue I'm afraid.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:02 am

    nomadski wrote:IMHO . Why Russia worried ? Why American ship bump Russian ship near Georgia black Sea, and no war ? Why Russian fighter jet does ballet dance with American intruder plane , wing tip to wing tip . Still no war ? Amazing . This move not imaginable by say a country like Iran . War next minute . Why this difference ? Obvious to people . There can be no war between Russia or US . Because any little conflict will soon turn nuclear . Probably within first few days . Everyone dies .

    Here then is the great advantage for Russia . An enemy attacking will either be strong or weak . A strong enemy threatening survival of Russia . Will be annihilated with nukes . A weak enemy not threatening survival of Russia . May not be attacked by full force . Since it becomes politically unacceptable . Only hoping to gain an advantage . By border skirmishes .

    so Russia needs to maintain in good order it's nuclear force . And maintain it's existing conventional forces in ready state ( for defending against weak attacks . Also transfer some arms to allies ) . For both strong and weak attacks . The money it saves , by not expanding it's conventional forces . Can be well spent in research .Into revolutionary and asymmetric weapon systems . Since it will be engaged in defending itself and allies from numerous small scale conflicts against western expansionism .

    Since economy of West and resources is bigger . Then a symmetric response will lead to defeat . They will simply put more ships or planes into operation . The Tank was only a response in wwI . To breaking through minefield and barb wire against infantry small arms fire . And someone defined the requirements and said tractor wheels on that thing is a good idea . If you work from definitions , then modern Tank can be UCAV with ATGM . Hunting infantry positions . Passing through barb wire . But you need to be brave and think outside of box and not be fashion victim . And always do catchup after yank military fashion industry .


    A lot of the European states, that is of NATO, is quite weak and very low numbers. It really breaks down to US and Turkey having the most in terms of military might in NATO. But even then, Turkey is a questionable ally for NATO and may not participate at all. So it really is USA doing majority of the work. And let us not kid ourselves, majority of US ground equipment is either outdated or not quite up to par in current conflicts. Such systems can be dealt with by use of ATGM's and other systems that could knock out such tanks at long ranges. While all the equipment US uses is still a major threat, Russia's aim, judging by what I am reading (MLRS numbers increasing, rocket systems like Iskander and Kalibr, etc) their aim is for hard hitting, long range strikes in a saturation mode. So in other words, strike US formations and positions with long range strikes and keep raining down on them. Add in artillery and it makes it very effective. You don't necessarily need to have the numbers per tank or per this or that. All you need is to make sure you have enough of the large hard hitting missiles and lots of available smaller arms like ATGM's and air defense systems.

    US could very well attack, they seem to be gearing up for a war with Russia by drastically increasing heavy armor at Russias borders (I heard that upwards to 3600 tanks will be in eastern europe by Jan-20) and so Russia has to be prepared for anything. Any adventurism the americans try into Russia's borders means they need to be wiped out. Fast and hard. And only way to do that is with a fast and hard strike with something like a Tochka, Oka or Iskander.

    This is why I think it is in Russia's best interest to further expand the number of such systems. Tanks and such are going to be what holds off the enemy for long enough till the hard striking systems can be ready and launched. Nuclear weapons will not be used in the beginning of the conflict. Maybe tactical nukes. But we are getting to the point where things are getting dangerous and Russia needs the #'s. Not just the quality hardware. I think they know this hence why they are continuing the upgrade of T-72's and T-80's.
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    Post  eehnie on Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:53 am

    franco wrote:are included the smaller numbers in the bigger data?  Not sure what you mean.

    It would be very interesting to know more about the land armament procured. Reported receiving 3,000 new major pieces of equipment.

    Maybe this helps. The Airborne Forces received 188 AFV which would include 60 T-72B3. The Ground Forces received ~ 500 AFV's. Suspect about 130 BTR-82A, ~80 BMP-3's and some rebuilt BMP-2M's. The other ~ half would be T-72B3. The Naval Infantry probably got 40 or so BTR-82AM's. Total would not include SPADS or SPArty.

    do you know about the numbers of GMZ-3 engineering vehicles that can be in active service and/or in the reserve in Russia? Not a clue I'm afraid.


    Thank you. The first question was about if the 88 artillery systems and guns are included in the 764.

    Habitually the engineering vehicles are not the most interesting machines from a military point, but I like them from a technical point.
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    Post  franco on Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:57 am

    Going forward and the thought process;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2369555.html

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