Russia's share in the Global Arms Market

SANTIAGO (Sputnik) – Russia’s arms export contracts portfolio is currently estimated at $54 billion, the deputy head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation said.

"In regard to the contracts portfolio, as of today it is more than $54 billion," Anatoly Punchuk told RIA Novosti in an interview on the sidelines of an arms exhibition in Chile.

par far wrote:With the US signing a $400+ Billion arms contract with Saudi Arabia, there will be a shit load of money will be going in the coffers of the US arms industry. Does this mean that the US will leave Russia behind in the Arms race? Why cannot Russia ever get a contract like that? Is it safe to say that the US is ahead of Russia in the arms race?(which just sucks.)

Isos wrote:

par far wrote:With the US signing a $400+ Billion arms contract with Saudi Arabia, there will be a shit load of money will be going in the coffers of the US arms industry. Does this mean that the US will leave Russia behind in the Arms race? Why cannot Russia ever get a contract like that? Is it safe to say that the US is ahead of Russia in the arms race?(which just sucks.)

It's 100 billion for arms and the rest is for civilian projects. Saudia arabia always buy from US and they pay lot for not that much. This money will probably be invest in saudi's oïl and then they will buy arms again and US will buy oïl ...

Those who buy US weapons don't really have the choice. Like Japan, South corea, SA, they threaten them to not help them against North corea, Iran and china if they don't buy their stuff. They sell them for a much higher price than the true cost (F-15SA is around 150 million $ while the basic F-15 was 30 million$ ).

miketheterrible wrote:Are you really this dense? I'm curious of what your age is. Please tell us.

First off, no $400B is being spent on arms by Saudi Arabia. Second, it is always been a scratch your back and you scratch mine between those two states.a

And what does selling weapons to another state have to do with an arms race? Do you even know what that term even means?

Isos wrote:

par far wrote:With the US signing a $400+ Billion arms contract with Saudi Arabia, there will be a shit load of money will be going in the coffers of the US arms industry. Does this mean that the US will leave Russia behind in the Arms race? Why cannot Russia ever get a contract like that? Is it safe to say that the US is ahead of Russia in the arms race?(which just sucks.)

It's 100 billion for arms and the rest is for civilian projects. Saudia arabia always buy from US and they pay lot for not that much. This money will probably be invest in saudi's oïl and then they will buy arms again and US will buy oïl ...

Those who buy US weapons don't really have the choice. Like Japan, South corea, SA, they threaten them to not help them against North corea, Iran and china if they don't buy their stuff. They sell them for a much higher price than the true cost (F-15SA is around 150 million $ while the basic F-15 was 30 million$ ).

miketheterrible wrote:Why would you care? Russia really doesn't care what the west says or wants. In the real world, people let the dogs bark but the caravan always moves on.

As for Iran and projects, Iran isn't Russia's ally or friend. Just have some mutual interests. Iran has chance to buy SSJ-100 but they opted to purchase jets they couldn't before hand and may not be able to buy spares in the future because of sanctions. If Iran was stupid enough for that, then...

Even Russia is seeking to sell stuff to Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries with some success (Joint project with UAE for a fifth Gen MiG).

Funny how Iran is. It is a lot like Israel. Both hate each other but both are the same - not worthy of an alliance with anyone and out for themselves.

miketheterrible wrote:Why would you care? Russia really doesn't care what the west says or wants. In the real world, people let the dogs bark but the caravan always moves on.

As for Iran and projects, Iran isn't Russia's ally or friend. Just have some mutual interests. Iran has chance to buy SSJ-100 but they opted to purchase jets they couldn't before hand and may not be able to buy spares in the future because of sanctions. If Iran was stupid enough for that, then...

Even Russia is seeking to sell stuff to Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries with some success (Joint project with UAE for a fifth Gen MiG).

Funny how Iran is. It is a lot like Israel. Both hate each other but both are the same - not worthy of an alliance with anyone and out for themselves.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Why would you care? Russia really doesn't care what the west says or wants. In the real world, people let the dogs bark but the caravan always moves on.

As for Iran and projects, Iran isn't Russia's ally or friend. Just have some mutual interests. Iran has chance to buy SSJ-100 but they opted to purchase jets they couldn't before hand and may not be able to buy spares in the future because of sanctions. If Iran was stupid enough for that, then...

Even Russia is seeking to sell stuff to Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries with some success (Joint project with UAE for a fifth Gen MiG).

Funny how Iran is. It is a lot like Israel. Both hate each other but both are the same - not worthy of an alliance with anyone and out for themselves.

Both Russia and Iran don't really need an alliance with the other. In the 70s they were ennemies. But once the sanction are done (Russia don't want a nuclear Iran too) they will probably try to sell some Sukhois. Russia has also radars scanning the iranian airspace, many here think that if you have US as an enemy you become bestfriend. That's not the reality.

For the relation between US and SA, it's totaly different from a scenario of Russia selling arms to Iran. Like I said the money between them will always go in the US then in SA then USA ... While Russia just want to sell it most of the time without offsets.

I've watched a documentry about the SA king family coming in Paris and they left without paying the hotel ...  the money will go always in USA.

miketheterrible wrote:Saudi Arabia has something like $800B stashed away in the USA as investments. That is a lot of money. In some terms, enough to cause a huge crisis in the US banking and currency system if Saudi pulls it.

So Saudi Arabia has a grip on US testies.  So of course US will support them and vice versa.

I have no idea how the US does this and get's a way with it, it is amazing LOL.

miketheterrible wrote:Saudi Arabia has something like $800B stashed away in the USA as investments. That is a lot of money. In some terms, enough to cause a huge crisis in the US banking and currency system if Saudi pulls it.

So Saudi Arabia has a grip on US testies.  So of course US will support them and vice versa.

KiloGolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Saudi Arabia has something like $800B stashed away in the USA as investments. That is a lot of money. In some terms, enough to cause a huge crisis in the US banking and currency system if Saudi pulls it.

So Saudi Arabia has a grip on US testies.  So of course US will support them and vice versa.

If the money sits in US oil, then it actually makes KSA hostage of the US. They can't withdraw that cash at will, even within a year. That money is only making more money for the US, the longer it sits there. If it were the case of KSA of holding US bonds in KSA, you'd be right.

miketheterrible wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Saudi Arabia has something like $800B stashed away in the USA as investments. That is a lot of money. In some terms, enough to cause a huge crisis in the US banking and currency system if Saudi pulls it.

So Saudi Arabia has a grip on US testies.  So of course US will support them and vice versa.

If the money sits in US oil, then it actually makes KSA hostage of the US. They can't withdraw that cash at will, even within a year. That money is only making more money for the US, the longer it sits there. If it were the case of KSA of holding US bonds in KSA, you'd be right.

I am not sure were all of the money Saudi Arabia has invested in US sits. All I know is they used it as a threat multiple of times in recent past.