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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  Mike E on Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:43 am

    Werewolf wrote:Playing for shts and giggles by provocing Russia a nuclear superpower is not the brightest idea either but the sociopaths still do it. Those sociopaths in power are ought to be killed who are running this madness and madhouse.

    Huh? What does that have to do with anything?
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:01 am

    Mike E wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Playing for shts and giggles by provocing Russia a nuclear superpower is not the brightest idea either but the sociopaths still do it. Those sociopaths in power are ought to be killed who are running this madness and madhouse.

    Huh? What does that have to do with anything?

    An answer to the last sentence of GarryB's reply to me. That playing with earth EM field is insane but not more insane then playing war with nuclear powers, same level of insane to me.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  Mike E on Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:52 am

    Ok, thanks.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:06 am

    Russia Looks to Revive Nuclear Missile Trains to Counter U.S. Attack Capability


    George Shuklin / WikicommonsThe last surviving RT-23 missile perched above its railway based launcher at the Central Museum of Railway Transport in St. Petersburg

    Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces are considering bringing back iconic Soviet-era nuclear missile trains as Moscow pumps money into a complete overhaul its aging nuclear arsenal.

    According to an unidentified source in the Russian military-industrial complex quoted by the TASS news agency on Thursday, the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology — makers of the Topol, Yars and Bulava missiles — is designing a next-generation missile launching train.

    "While the decision to start manufacturing [missile trains] is still pending, the probability is high that it will happen," the source was quoted as saying, explaining that technical studies and cost estimates are still being conducted.

    "In the best-case scenario, they will be deployed by the end of the decade, probably somewhere around 2019," he said.

    The Russian nuclear forces are the prime beneficiaries of Moscow's sweeping 20 trillion ruble ($500 billion) military rearmament drive, with authorities pledging to completely modernize the country's arsenal with new rockets better suited to respond to modern threats.

    The Soviet Union began deploying nuclear missile trains in 1987. The trains used RT-23 Molodets missiles, built by the giant Yuzhmash machine building plant located in modern day Ukraine. By the time the U.S.S.R. collapsed in 1991, 56 of the missiles were deployed on missile trains. Ukraine stopped building RT-23s, and by 2005 Russia had decommissioned all of them.

    In December last year, Lieutenant General Sergei Karakayev of the Strategic Rocket Forces said that the U.S. Prompt Global Strike program was forcing Russia to begin conducting studies on putting the concept back into practice.

    Prompt Global Strike refers to the development by the U.S. of hypersonic missiles that will be capable of fast, high precision strikes anywhere on the globe.

    In this context, missile trains make a lot of sense for Russian defense strategists. One of the key elements of any nuclear war plan is the ability of your nuclear forces to survive a first strike from an opponent and counterattack with devastating force.

    A missile train would increase the survivability of Russia's nuclear arsenal, complicating efforts to locate its missiles by moving them quickly and consistently around the country.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:13 am

    From memory the main issues with ICBM trains was the size and weight of the ICBMs requiring special train carriages to be made... they were just too big and heavy.

    With modern technologies making them smaller and lighter putting them on train carriages is much more practical... the ideal is to create them so that they look and operate like other train carriages which would make them harder to spot.

    As you can imagine the idea of the cruise missile in the shipping container wouldn't really work if it had a special shipping container that was twice as wide and twice as long as a standard container. All the handling and storing equipment would not work and they would stand out from other containers.

    It is the same with ICBM trains.

    the interesting thing is that the train could have Pantsir and TOR and BUK and even S-350 or S-400 and S-500 on board to help protect it...


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    Fundamentally new quality of nuke charges - Nuclear Center of Snezhinsk

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:58 pm


    Chelyabinsk nuclear physicists started to develop the unique characteristics of the charges

    http://tass.ru/ural-news/2033285

    Ammunition used in the five kinds of carriers of strategic nuclear forces

    Snezhinsk (Chelyabinsk Region), June 10. / TASS /. Nuclear Center of Snezhinsk (VNIITF, Chelyabinsk region) started the development of new charges with unique characteristics. This was announced by Director of the Center Michael Zheleznov at a meeting with the general director of the state corporation "Rosatom" Sergey Kiriyenko.

    "One of our new development center - is used five types of media strategic nuclear forces ammunition with unique characteristics" - said Zheleznov, noting that the center is also engaged in the modernization of existing weapons and charges.


    According Zheleznova the past 10 years Snezhinsk Center, which is celebrating 10 June 60 anniversary, put into service 10 types of nuclear weapons.

    According to Kiriyenko, in the abolition of nuclear tests, the institute Snezhinsk "not only provides the performance and the modernization of previously developed the charge, but also could provide a forces in combat duty with fundamentally new quality of charges."

    "Half of all Russian nuclear power made Snezhinsk. Including all charges made here are used Navy and all of the charges, which are used by the Air Force," - concluded the head of "Rosatom", which is located in the Chelyabinsk region with working visit.


    New torpedoes, new hypersonic missiles and new IRBMs require new warheads Smile
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    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:46 am

    Russian missile factory to increase production volume by 17%

    Votkinsky Zavod in western Urals is the batch manufacturer of Iskander-M tactical missiles, Topol-M strategic missiles and sea-based Bulava ballistic missiles

    IZHEVSK, 28 August. /TASS/. A factory in Udmurtia, western Urals, that manufactures the Bulava and Topol-M ballistic missiles plans to increase the output at the yearend by 17% to $402.2 million, the Director General of the enterprise, Viktor Tolmachov told reporters during a meeting the regional President, Alexander Solovyov in the city of Votkinsk where the factory is located.

    "We’re working exactly in compliance with the plan, like we did at the beginning of the year," Tolmachov said. "We’ll finish the year with 27 billion rubles ($402 million at the current exchange rate TASS). We aren’t falling. We’re growing instead and we’ll finish the year with a 17% increase."

    At present, Votkinsky Zavod (the Votkinsk Factory) is building up a portfolio of orders for next year.

    "We’ve met the production targets for this year and now we’re getting advanced payments for next year," Tolmachov said. "The factory has two or three work shifts a day."

    "The volumes of the state defense order are increasing because we’ve earned the reputation of an enterprise that fulfills the state defense orders year after year," he said.

    Votkinsky Zavod experts say its output of manufactured items totaled $160 million in the first six months of the year — up 9.2% versus the same period in 2014.

    As of 2015, the factory embarked on an investment project worth $83.1 million and aimed at the revamping and technology overhaul of production facilities, which will last continue through to December 2019. The factory plans to spend $21.8 million for the purpose this year.

    Votkinsky Zavod is the batch manufacturer of Iskander-M tactical missiles, Topol-M strategic missiles and sea-based Bulava ballistic missiles.

    It also manufactures commercial produce, including appliances for the oil and gas industry, nuclear plant equipment, metal-cutting units, and custom-made equipment.


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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:20 am

    Mike E wrote:Tesla, was in my book, the smartest man that ever lived. It is simply ridiculous the ideas he came up with, which were later "invented" by someone else. I don't doubt that his "crazy" "world changer" weapon ideas couldn't be made...

    Tesla is without any doubt one of the greatest minds that ever existed and lived. Sadly not many people know about him, even worse most of the people are not even aware in what fields he contributed. If you ever get chance visit Nikola Tesla museum in Belgrade, its something really special.
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    Nuclear weapons industry

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:20 am

    Quick question: Who still makes the nuclear warheads in Russia? A quick readup on wiki (and cant find anything else) states that Seversk did build make the plutonium but the two plutonium reactors were shut down in a 2003 agreement with US.  So who makes the nuclear material for warheads in Russia and how?  Apparently all of Russias plutonium reactors are closed since 2010.  Are all current warheads using old plutonium?
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    Post  kvs on Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:39 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Tesla had more advanced ideas of military weapons ,that what we have today.. that will make look nukes
    that US and Russia have like a weapon for amateurs. Tesla for example investigations claimed it was
    possible to manipulate the earth magnetic field and direct it at will , with a powerful enough machine..
    and for example manipulate the earth magnetic field and induce a lethal current into another nation and
    fry the entire country. Not by launching a missile ,but simply by knowing how to direct energy.. Is Similar to a Lightning but a billion times more powerful and that instead of killing one person it touch, wipe an entire nation. he also claimed that manipulating earth magnetic fields you could create earthquakes and or break the earth in parts.. Shocked 

    You need to supply a reference. This is some BS attributed to Tesla which he would never spout. The Earth's geodynamo is composed
    of millions of cubic kilometers of molten iron that cannot be manipulated by anything that humans can produce. If we are talking
    about trying to nudge the nonlinear dynamical system with some appropriate small perturbations then 1) it is impossible to model them
    to predict the desired solution since in such nonlinear systems errors grow exponentially fast and 2) you could be waiting thousands of
    years for your manipulation attempts to even register in a changed progression of the geodynamo circulation.

    Tesla had beam weapon ideas that in my view had potential but critical details were "lost".
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    Post  sepheronx on Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:38 am

    sepheronx wrote:Quick question: Who still makes the nuclear warheads in Russia? A quick readup on wiki (and cant find anything else) states that Seversk did build make the plutonium but the two plutonium reactors were shut down in a 2003 agreement with US.  So who makes the nuclear material for warheads in Russia and how?  Apparently all of Russias plutonium reactors are closed since 2010.  Are all current warheads using old plutonium?

    Let me rephrase my question cause it seems to be quite confusing.

    Since Russia has decommissioned its reactors to make weapon grade Plutonium, how is Russia making new warheads?  Using already produced Plutonium from old warheads?  My understanding is that Plutonium degrades over time.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:46 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Quick question: Who still makes the nuclear warheads in Russia? A quick readup on wiki (and cant find anything else) states that Seversk did build make the plutonium but the two plutonium reactors were shut down in a 2003 agreement with US.  So who makes the nuclear material for warheads in Russia and how?  Apparently all of Russias plutonium reactors are closed since 2010.  Are all current warheads using old plutonium?

    Let me rephrase my question cause it seems to be quite confusing.

    Since Russia has decommissioned its reactors to make weapon grade Plutonium, how is Russia making new warheads?  Using already produced Plutonium from old warheads?  My understanding is that Plutonium degrades over time.

    Just in case Smile Fast neuron reactors breed more plutonium then consume and not surprisingly Russia is among leaders in this technology.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:35 am

    Yes, the fast neutron reactors or breeder reactors they are putting into service will create more fuel than they use... and it will be possible to make all the weapons grade material you need with them alone...


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:24 am

    GarryB wrote:Yes, the fast neutron reactors or breeder reactors they are putting into service will create more fuel than they use... and it will be possible to make all the weapons grade material you need with them alone...


    They seem to have relatively small sizes so System 6 may profit from Rosatom research Smile

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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:14 am



    In other news..

    have anyone heard before about Cobalt Bomb?

    Someone posted this in another forum.. and got me wondered
    if ever any of this is true.



    Some intelligence sheared that the Russia have major project "Cobalt Bomb" project was started in late 80 ts made by soviet scientists. Bomb with in 10,000 megaton capable to wipe out entire continent. The epicenter of explosion is close to a new stars birth in open space

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    Post  coolieno99 on Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:54 am

    Massive gas centrifuge farm in Russia use for separating uranium isotopes for nuclear fuel and weaponry. Note the 4-layer stack. This photo was taken in the 1990's. At that time the Russians were using 6th generation centrifuge units.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:45 am


    Some intelligence sheared that the Russia have major project "Cobalt Bomb" project was started in late 80 ts made by soviet scientists. Bomb with in 10,000 megaton capable to wipe out entire continent. The epicenter of explosion is close to a new stars birth in open space

    Cobalt is an exotic material created during the supernova of a star... all the first stars created were vast clouds of hydrogen and some helium that fall together under the forces of gravity where heat and pressure rapidly increase to the point where fusion is possible.

    the likelyhood that cobalt would be involved in the creation of a new star is next to zero and I have never seen a convincing explaination as to why Cobalt would increase the power of a fusion reaction.... most metals are good conductors and would be bad for fusion reactions.


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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:12 pm

    Cobalt bombs are known to have very high radioactive fallout and initial alpha radiation which polludes and radiates more heavily the environment. Cobalt bombs were banned exactly for that purpose. Militaries who considered use or potential use of nukes to have low as possible radioactivity, because it is hard to use anything of the resources your enemy has on his soil even after decades and with cobalt bombs it would take centuries before the radioactivity is low enough not to fry everything within a minute.


    Cobalt bombs are bad for the environment.

    H-bombs are acceptable for the environment.

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    Post  franco on Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:06 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Cobalt bombs are known to have very high radioactive fallout and initial alpha radiation which polludes and radiates more heavily the environment. Cobalt bombs were banned exactly for that purpose. Militaries who considered use or potential use of nukes to have low as possible radioactivity, because it is hard to use anything of the resources your enemy has on his soil even after decades and with cobalt bombs it would take centuries before the radioactivity is low enough not to fry everything within a minute.


    Cobalt bombs are bad for the environment.

    H-bombs are acceptable for the environment.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:57 am

    Have anyone any info on this? is sth new ICBM?

    Icarus complex, R-36M3 / 15A18M2 (draft)

    DATA FOR 2016 (standard completion)
    The complex "Icarus", the R-36M3 / 15A18M2 (draft)

    The heavy intercontinental ballistic missile, the fifth generation. Preliminary design and rocket complex was developed in the design office "South" (Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine) under the leadership of the USSR Academy V.F.Utkina in 1991. The project was discontinued in 1991-1992 In some sources as the reason for the termination of the development known as SALT-2 talks, but most likely there were several reasons. The same can not be ignored, and the nationalization of certain developing ICBMs to Russian Strategic Missile Forces. The index of the literature 15A18M2 mistakenly attributed to the rocket R-36M2. As the project "Icarus" is sometimes mistakenly attributed index 15A19. Starting and ground equipment: Presumably intended use ICBM silos 15A18M.

    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-851.html


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    Strategic FOB System( Nuclear Space Weapons). Time for a rethink?

    Post  Neutron on Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:43 pm



    The Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS) was a Soviet weapons program that started in the 1960s whose goal was to develop a nuclear capable ICBM vehicle which would, once launched, inject into LEO (Low Earth Orbit) upon which the payload could de-orbit and strike a ground target. Basically it turns out that launching a nuclear weapon from space is highly effective and that many long-range defenses are thus automatically bypassed  Cool .

    The Soviet-era FOBS program caused so much panic and concern in the west at the time that the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 was drafted, which led to the FOBS program being decommissioned, the treaty has banned the use of nuclear capable weapons in earth orbit since then. However it can be argued that many of the parties that originally signed this treaty could have already secretly developed similar programs and could thus potentially use these arcane programs against Russia in the future. Not even mentioning all the numerous, on-going violations of many non-proliferation treaties by other countries. Russia in my opinion, shouldn't be reducing its nuclear stockpile or nuclear capabilities, it should be increasing them for the sake of deterrence or even MAD. I therefore propose that the Russian strategic nuclear forces reconsider a nuclear deterrence system similar to FOBS for deployment.

    However if a program such as FOBS is to be reconsidered drastic design reconsideration of the payload launcher vehicle must be taken into account. Firstly the payload launcher vehicle should be permanently stationed in orbit until a launch is initiated instead of launching the vehicle into orbit shortly before an attack and waiting for the payload to de-orbit, this means that it would take substantially longer for any early warning satellite satellite system to detect an imminent nuclear strike due to the suppression of ground based thermal or IR signatures. The launcher vehicle should then ideally inject into LEO and hold when the weapon is initiated.

    Secondly we must take into account the realities of ABM systems. Once a warhead is detected and a ABM originating projectile is launched, first strike uncertainty is increased. ABM systems, however, rely on sensor inputs to guide ABM originating projectiles to their target, EM/IR sensor/transducer resolution, however, can theoretically be reduced by increasing radiation/EM flux density uniformly within a given volume in space, making distinguishing a target much more difficult if not impossible. What this means, assuming a large enough yield, is if a launch is initiated, one of the many reentry vehicles would need to be detonated sequentially after launch, to provide this increase in energy density and subsequently, decrease in sensor resolution along the target pathway. This is repeated until the main attack vehicles reach a suitable distance above earth's atmosphere. Thus the travel trajectory of the main attack vehicle's should then ideally transverse these spherical blast volumes, making target identification to the ABM system practically impossible, in theory.

    Once the final RV's are close to reentry they separate drastically, by this time no ABM system would be able to cope with the speed and number of re-entry vehicles and even in the best case scenario, assuming 100% interception, the blast radius and fallout would be so severe that surviving such an attack would be impossible. Another possibility would be the addition of ozone-degenerating compounds which would destroy part of the ozone layer covering the target's land mass to increase radiation penetration. This is very hypothesized but I'm sure something similar can be done.

    Having a good deterrence strategy is one of the best defenses a country can possess.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  Militarov on Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:48 am

    Russian ICBM developer recently bought 18 licenses for Siemens PLM Software - Product Lifecycle Management

    Source: https://news.rambler.ru/politics/33792294/
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:05 am

    Militarov wrote:Russian ICBM developer recently bought 18 licenses for Siemens PLM Software - Product Lifecycle Management

    Source: https://news.rambler.ru/politics/33792294/

    I am pretty certain some heads will roll or someone will step up and demand that the software is either not used or something else.  As well, why not use an open source PLM one? it exists.

    I believe someone was paid off and trying to use excuses.  Although, I imagine the software operates in a closed environment meaning that whatever "back doors" cannot access outside connections anyway thus limiting or depleting any chance of damage.

    But it is a waste of money to purchase any western...anything.  As mentioned, an open source one exists.  Eventually someone will build one based upon its code.

    Such news will just cause a stir, which is good.
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    Post  Project Canada on Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:57 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Russian ICBM developer recently bought 18 licenses for Siemens PLM Software - Product Lifecycle Management

    Source: https://news.rambler.ru/politics/33792294/

    I am pretty certain some heads will roll or someone will step up and demand that the software is either not used or something else.  As well, why not use an open source PLM one? it exists.

    I believe someone was paid off and trying to use excuses.  Although, I imagine the software operates in a closed environment meaning that whatever "back doors" cannot access outside connections anyway thus limiting or depleting any chance of damage.

    But it is a waste of money to purchase any western...anything.  As mentioned, an open source one exists.  Eventually someone will build one based upon its code.

    Such news will just cause a stir, which is good.

    I was thinking the same thing as well, Im pretty sure anything Western tech sold to Russia will most likely be rigged with backdoor function and loaded with all other evil secret surprises to sabotage Russia in anyway possible
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Weapons Industry

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:00 am

    Project Canada wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Russian ICBM developer recently bought 18 licenses for Siemens PLM Software - Product Lifecycle Management

    Source: https://news.rambler.ru/politics/33792294/

    I am pretty certain some heads will roll or someone will step up and demand that the software is either not used or something else.  As well, why not use an open source PLM one? it exists.

    I believe someone was paid off and trying to use excuses.  Although, I imagine the software operates in a closed environment meaning that whatever "back doors" cannot access outside connections anyway thus limiting or depleting any chance of damage.

    But it is a waste of money to purchase any western...anything.  As mentioned, an open source one exists.  Eventually someone will build one based upon its code.

    Such news will just cause a stir, which is good.

    I was thinking the same thing as well, Im pretty sure anything Western tech sold to Russia will most likely be rigged with backdoor function and loaded with all other evil secret surprises to sabotage Russia in anyway possible


    surprise surprise recently Shuvalov said that Russian companies should first offer software better than west before state companies should buy it...is this sheer idiocy or outright sabotage? could Israeli or US deputy first minister support products from geopolitical foes ?


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