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    GarryB

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    Did Russia ever match US PRoject Rover for space tugs to move satellites around?

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:50 am

    That method of propulsion is incredibly inefficient.

    For all the explosive charges that were used to get a few metres into the air they could have used a proper rocket to attain much higher velocity and get much higher.

    The effect of the explosions on any person on board such a space craft or the electronics would make such propulsion ideas reveal themselves to be nonsense.

    Looking at the problem of a 90 degree turn at 7km/s even if we ignore the turn and say a sudden stop from 7km/s such a thing is not possible either... the g forces alone would destroy it.

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    Accessing the planets largest energy source

    Post  Pervius on Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:36 am

    In 1992 the United States conducted 2 experiments with it's Space Shuttle to release a tethered satellite to study if energy could be received.

    Scientists quit calling the Van Allen belt... radiation and now call it electrons. It's known it releases large amounts of energy to the Earth at times...

    Well look at what they are working on again (Look at the Jan 11, 2011):



    http://www.tethers.com/News.html

    New Zealand was against a US Defense plan awhile ago to use such a tether to get rid of Radiation Belt energy...and funnel it to the Earth's atmosphere to save US Satellites...

    What say you Garry? Is New Zealand protesting the US Air Force contract to Penn State University to continue with the project? It's not about power generation, everyone knows you can get power from the radiation belts.....the US plans to use the tether to protect it's satellites.

    Say if China sets off a nuclear bomb in space, causing another radiation belt....the tether would take the radiation and funnel it to the Earth's atmosphere as energy....could potentially create a very deadly weapon in itself.

    www.physics.otago.ac.nz/space/RBR_Media_release_8Aug06.htm
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:40 am

    First of all lets get a few things straight... the Van Allen belts is a magnetic field around the Earth... that is no real secret because that is what makes compasses work on earth.

    The Earth is a large magnet with a north pole and a south pole and a magnetic field of electrons streaming from one pole to the other externally and in the opposite direction internally to form a complete circuit.

    The Van Allen belt is the electron paths moving down from the South pole out into space and out around the earth and back into the North Pole. These streams of electrons absorb radiation and therefore form a shield for the earth to protect the earth from some of the radiation types spewing out from the sun at 900km/s (which is the speed of the solar wind) or faster.

    If there is serious solar activity sometimes the ionised particles can hit the polar regions and travel down the electron paths and when they enter the atmosphere they light up and create what are called the northern and southern lights (at each pole respectively). Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis are their technical names.

    The idea for tethers is pretty simple... coil up some copper wire and then move a magnet through it and it will generate a small current. Hang a wire down from a satellite and as it passes through the magnetic field of the earth it generates rather large currents of free electricity.

    The tether in this case however is most likely for use for grounding certain satellites so they can withstand the electro magnetic pulse generated by a nuclear explosion in the upper atmosphere.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:20 pm

    Russian Progress space freighter lost

    An unmanned freighter launched to the International Space Station (ISS) has been lost.

    The Russian space agency said the Progress M-12M cargo ship was not placed in the correct orbit by its rocket and fell back to Earth. The vessel was carrying three tonnes of supplies for the ISS astronauts. With the retirement of the US space shuttle, there is now a critical reliance on robotic freighters to keep the station supplied.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14653371

    Let's see... this is the 4th failed launch in the last year with 6 lost payloads. Our space programme is unraveling at the seems.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:04 am

    No your space program is not unravelling at the seams, and hopefully your government doesn't start punitive firings because of it.

    The simple fact is that accidents are more often grouped rather than evenly spread out over time.

    AFAIK this is the first failure of a Soyuz cargo rocket... and considering they have been using them longer than some posters here have been alive I think that is a pretty good record.

    Flying into space is difficult and dangerous... even with the unfortunate loss of two shuttles and more importantly their crews the shuttle still has a reasonably good safety record too.

    The point is that if this had been a manned launch the crew would likely have survived as the module is designed for reentry. The cargo module on the other hand is filled with goodies and air and water for the space station, which they leave attached as a resource bay and then start filling it up with rubbish that is no longer needed on the station... when it is full or that access connection is needed they simply release it and it burns up on reentry.

    The only problem they have had with them in all the years of operation was when one was overloaded and this wouldn't have been a problem if it wasn't for the fact that ground control had decided that this mission would be manually controlled instead of the normal automatic docking. Because the craft was overweight they brought it in too fast and the thrusters could not slow it enough and it collided with the space station (MIR).
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:04 am

    There is an endemic failure of third stages
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:21 pm

    Which is much better than a different reason for each.

    This will likely lead to a shake up in processes and procedures, but it is important to keep in mind nobody is dead.

    Part of doing is learning... if failure is not acceptable... don't do anything and you will never fail at it.

    The huge list of countries that could leap into Russias shoes and offer a lower cost delivery system to the ISS clearly shows this is not easy even if it has been made to look so for so many years by the Russians and NASA.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  fredleander on Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:17 pm

    Funny, as far as I can see nothing has been announced on this here in Scandinavia.

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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:27 am

    If tests take too long and the ISS can't be resupplied on time and the current occupants need to vacate the station then it might make international news.

    I don't think it will come to that.

    Knowing western news agencies they wont bother mentioning anything unless it is negative towards Russia... then they wont shut up about it, so I suppose not mentioning the failure might signal and improvement?

    Or am I being too hopeful.

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    Post  Pervius on Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:52 pm

    GarryB wrote:If tests take too long and the ISS can't be resupplied on time and the current occupants need to vacate the station then it might make international news.

    I don't think it will come to that.

    Knowing western news agencies they wont bother mentioning anything unless it is negative towards Russia... then they wont shut up about it, so I suppose not mentioning the failure might signal and improvement?

    Or am I being too hopeful.



    Economic/Psychological Warfare has many different faces. Maybe it's not on the US news because.....US made it fail. How would they gain from that?

    Justify keeping US Space Shuttles? Justify more US spending? Waste Russian $$$.


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    Russia to Build Nuclear Space Engine by 2017

    Post  GarryB on Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:14 am

    Russia to Build Nuclear Space Engine by 2017

    A Russian Megawatt-class nuclear propulsion system for long-range manned spacecraft must be ready by 2017, Skolkovo Foundation's Nuclear Cluster head Denis Kovalevich said on Wednesday.

    “At present we are testing several types of fuel and later we will start drafting the design,” Kovalevich said. “The first parts [of the nuclear engine] should be built in 2013, and the engine is expected to be ready by 2017.”

    The engine is being developed for interplanetary manned spacecraft to ensure that Russia maintains a competitive edge in the space race, including the exploration of the Moon and Mars.

    The Russian government allocated 500 million rubles ($16.7 million) in 2010 to start a project to build a spacecraft with a nuclear engine. The overall investment in the project is estimated at 17 billion rubles (over $580 million) until 2019.

    According to Russia’s nuclear power agency Rosatom, the development and construction of a nuclear propulsion system for spacecraft will cost over 7.2 billion rubles ($247 mln).

    NASA started a program to develop a nuclear propulsion system in 2003, and spent several hundred million dollars on the project before cutting funding.

    Russian space officials believe that nuclear engines for interplanetary spaceships are a very promising area, as solar power is too weak to be used as a power source at distances beyond Earth's orbit.


    source http://en.rian.ru/science/20120328/172442924.html

    Having a nuclear powered rocket means a rocket that can run all the way to the destination which is very very important.

    First of all it makes life easier onboard the space craft as instead of an enormous shove by several minutes of rocket thrust and then coasting most of the way to the destination followed by several minutes of rocket thrust to slow down and enter orbit of the body you are flying too, you get a constant push all the way which in some ways simulates a micro gravity. Accelerating for months instead of minutes means that two space craft traveling to Mars with one using nuclear power and one using a conventional liquid fueled rocket means that initially the normal rocket will blast away ahead of the nuclear rocket, but it will reach a top speed and then just coast at that speed, while the nuclear rocket will gradually catch up and then accelerate past the other ship and may get to the destination months earlier and burning a small fraction of the fuel needed by the other rocket to accelerate and then slow down again. This means a lot less fuel is needed which makes the ship smaller and lighter and weight is critical as you will need to take a lot of stuff.

    Ideally for the first manned trip to Mars you will want to have landed spacecraft there already that has robots that go out and find water and extract it and store it ready to be used either for drinking water, breathable air, or separating the oxygen and the hydrogen for rocket fuel.

    By the time you send people there you should have enough water there to immediately take off and come home again if that is necessary.

    For shorter trips like the moon it will be much more efficient to use than a conventional chemical rocket and could be sent up to deal with space debris orbiting the earth... the material could be fused into hockey puck sized lumps of material and launched directly into the atmosphere to burn up on reentry.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:17 am

    Plutonium to Pluto: Russian nuclear space travel breakthrough

    A ground-breaking Russian nuclear space-travel propulsion system will be ready by 2017 and will power a ship capable of long-haul interplanetary missions by 2025, giving Russia a head start in the outer-space race.

    The megawatt-class nuclear drive will function for up to three years and produce 100-150 kilowatts of energy at normal capacity.

    The new project proposes the use of an electric ion propulsion system. The engines exhaust thrust will be generated by an ion flow, which is further accelerated by an electric field. The nuclear reactor will therefore “supply” the necessary amount of electric power without unwanted radioactive contamination of the environment.

    Xenon will serve as propellant for the engines.

    It is under development at Skolkovo, Russia’s technology innovation hub, whose nuclear cluster head Denis Kovalevich confirmed the breakthrough to Interfax. "At present we are testing several types of fuel and later we will start drafting the design," he said.

    While the engine is expected to be fully assembled by 2017 the accompanying craft will not be ready before 2025 former head of Roscosmos, Anatoly Perminov, told Interfax.

    Scientists expect to start putting the new engine through its paces in operational tests as early as 2014.

    The Russian government began the ambitious project in 2010 with an investment of approximately $17 million dollars and is expected to shell out $247 million over the next five years to complete the engine.

    ­Contractors:
    NIKIET (Research and Design Institute of Power Engineering, open joint-stock company, subsidiary of Russia’s state-run nuclear corporation Rosatom) – main design office for the reactor
    Energia (Korolyov Rocket and Space Corporation)
    Kurchatov Institute (National Research Centre)
    Keldysh Research Center (Federal State Unitary Enterprise)
    Funds:
    Total cost of nuclear propulsion system: over US $247 million
    Total project budget: over US $580 million through 2019

    The idea of using a nuclear propulsion system to power space missions is not altogether new. It came about in the 1960s and was the brainchild of three Russian academics, Mstislav Keldysh, Igor Kurchatov and Sergey Korolev in the Soviet Union.

    Research into the field was subsequently carried out not only in the Soviet Union, but also in the US, although with a view to creating a new weapon rather than the advancement of space travel.

    The stumbling block that has faced scientists over the last couple of years is that as a craft travels further away from the sun’s rays, solar energy weakens and cannot produce the necessary energy to power electric engines through its solar panels.

    Nuclear power has generally been considered a valid alternative to fossil fuels to power space craft, as it is the only energy source capable of producing the enormous thrust needed for interplanetary travel.

    NASA embarked on a project to develop a nuclear engine capable of powering a space craft, but funding was cut in 2003.

    The revolutionary propulsion system falls in line with recently announced plans for Russia to conquer space. Last month, the Russian Federal Space Agency released its ambitious scheme to explore our solar system in the coming years. Entitled Space Development Strategies up to 2030, Russia aims to send probes to Mars, Jupiter, and Venus, as well as establish a series of bases on the moon.

    source http://rt.com/news/space-nuclear-engine-propulsion-120/

    This is good news as it confirms they are basically talking about ion propulsion rather than the quackery coming from some western scientists. Some scientists in the British interplanetary society suggested a nuclear powered space ship that uses a huge sail and a gun that fires nuclear bombs that explode and "blow" the sail to propel the vessel. Of course they never say what material this sail is made of that can withstand the temperature of a nuclear blast and wont rip or simply vapourise with the first blast that also destroys the ship...

    Ion propulsion on the other hand is much more sensible.

    Ion propulsion uses electric fields to accelerate small charged particles to incredibly high speed, which when directed apply a propulsive force. On the ground in the earths atmosphere you might feel the ion material as a faint breeze, but in space a big enough system with a particle accelerator designed to maximise the speed of the particles you might get an acceleration force of one 100th of gravity on earth... which compared to the 3-4 g force of a rocket for several minutes might sound pathetic, but it is the duration that is critical. The ion engine can operate for months or years at a time whereas even the biggest rocket will burn out in tens of minutes.

    The velocity of an object in space is directly related to the ejection speed of the material used to propel the spaceship. In theory an ion propulsion system could operate for years using 4-5kgs of "fuel", with an exhaust speed perhaps 30% the speed of light or more with the help of a particle accelerator... which would just need to be a ring shaped magnetic field the ion particles can be accelerated around a couple of hundred times before expelling them out the rear of the spaceship.

    The main problem is the low relative thrust so a quick change in direction would need a conventional rocket or gas thruster... in a very long trip like Mars or even to another star the engine would be operating all the way with it accelerating it towards its destination for the first half of the trip and slowing it down for the second half as it would need as much time to slow down as it would to speed up.

    The huge irony is that there is probably no point in sending a probe to a nearby star as in 50 years time the probe will likely not be any more than half way and in 50 years time the improvement in technology will mean a new probe sent would probably blast past the first probe and beat it to its destination.

    Even more ironic is if we sent a slow probe now and in 60 years time with new developments in technology we are able to send people to a newly discovered planet and the people get to the new planet before the old probe does...

    Still that first star trek movie is still one of my favourites Smile
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    http://gizmodo.com/5909215/this-is-the-definitive-photograph-of-planet-earth

    Pretty neat photo.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

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    Nice... thanks for posting... Smile
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    Russia : Space News and Discussion

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:08 am

    This thread is for general Russian Space news other then GLONASS and Angara for which we have seperate thread.

    Start with an interview of Vladimir Popovkin Head of FSA

    Interview with head of the Federal Space Agency Vladimir Popovkin


    Head of the Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos) said "News" for new missile launch site and the construction industry layoffs Directors

    This past year was full of events for the Russian space industry - was reform in the industry, the fate of Roscosmos, the outgoing head of the largest companies, funding for space programs set new records. That has been done and what is planned for next year, in an interview with Ivan Cheberko said the head of the Federal Space Agency Vladimir Popovkin.

    - Vladimir, emerged as the final year for the space industry?

    - December 19, completed a campaign starting this year. Performed in 28 starts, placed in orbit 35 satellites. Unfortunately, due to malfunction of the upper stage "Briz-M" into orbit does not come spacecraft "Express-MD2" and "Telkom-3." In another run, "Breeze" not completed a few minutes, but the device "Yamal-402" will be delivered at the scheduled January 8 point and placed under the control of OAO "Gazprom Space Systems." Detailed assessment of the state of the satellite to be done when the "Yamal" take his position, but it is certain he will be able to work at least 11 years.

    Two start-up with Russia have been held with Spaceport in French Guiana, and three - under the "Sea Launch". The total number of runs a little less than in 2011 (not counting starts from the platform "Sea Launch" from the Guiana Space Centre in 2011, the Russian Federation has implemented 32 launch. - "News"). But keep in mind that the amount of the global market starts declined slightly in recent years, resulting in almost all the countries in this year launched less than in the past. This is due to the fact that to date, the geostationary orbit was almost full, passed the stage of modernization of satellites, and the demand for launch services decreased. However Russia its position in the global market kept: a third launch our missiles carried.

    - What about the industry as a whole?

    - Preliminary results show an increase in the volume of production in the aerospace industry by 14.9% in 2012 compared to the previous year. This growth is largely due to the state armaments program and increased funding under the Federal Space Program.

    Average wage of the industry this year amounted to 33 thousand rubles, which is 10% higher than last year.

    A very important result was the launch of full-scale work on the creation cosmodrome Vostochny in the Amur region. The starting complex and technical segment is made zero cycle: elevated foundation, actively works on creation of supporting infrastructure - power grids, roads and railways. There is no reason to say that we do not have time in 2015 (in the presidential decree on the establishment of the Baikonur East 2015 is designated as the date of the first run with the new spaceport. - "News"). If we can maintain the current momentum - to meet the deadline.

    During the year, replaced the heads of several companies, including the Khrunichev Center, "Russian Space Systems", "Technomash." Task to change all the leaders we have, of course not, but in general I can say that in the next year are assumed to be replaced.

    - Several leaders were difficulties with re-certification, in particular the head of the main scientific unit of Roscosmos - TsNIIMASH Gennady Raykunova ...

    - After re-evaluation was replaced by Director of NGO "Technomash" Alexander Kotov, there are questions for Chapter KB "Arsenal" Michael Sapieha. Roskosmos was forced to send a commission to the St. Petersburg company that she thoroughly understand the situation from the inside. After the scan, a decision is made, including on personnel matters.

    In March next year the contract expires CEO TSNIIMASH, and it was decided not to certify. At the beginning of next year will be a competition for the right to replace the post, then we will see what to do next.

    - You have decided on the candidates for the post of "Russian Space Systems"?

    - The names of specific applicants called premature, but the process of change of leadership in the RCC goes. Yuri Urlichich November 16 submitted his resignation from the post of CEO. After that, with the Federal Property Management Agency Roscosmos and Economic Development to prepare a proposal on which the guidelines were issued by the government representatives of the interests of the Russian Federation to the RCC to participate in the meeting of the Board of Directors. December 10 The guidelines were approved. According to them, the Board of Directors on December 19 appointed temporary sole executive body of PKC Andrew Chimiris until the election of director general. On the same day came the decision of the extraordinary general meeting of shareholders to terminate the authority PKC Urlichich.

    - As the fate of the team Urlichich the RCC? Most of these people openly opposed configured in relation to you personally and to the Russian Space Agency.

    - I'm not against the opposition. But the opposition is relevant in business. Differences of opinion, views - this is normal. Always less likely to be mistaken as to listen to all sides. On PKC activity but we have a lot of questions. This structure includes the Institute of Space Device Engineering, and it is so problematic for us a site that we had to go to the western market and buy there equipment control relay. The new leadership of the RCC will solve these problems.

    - How is the investigation of the criminal case of embezzlement of funds allocated under the Federal Program PKC on GLONASS?

    - This question is for the authorities conducting the investigation.

    - Is it true that appeal to you with the request to provide the investigation meeting with your deputy, Anatoly Shilov, who allegedly failed to appear for questioning?

    - There is the mystery of the investigation, which I do not want to disturb.

    - Russia is indeed in talks with Kazakhstan's Baikonur cosmodrome status change, as stated recently head Kazkosmos Talgat Musabayev?

    - To change the fundamental inter-state agreement on rent Baikonur until 2050 the question. The treaty was signed by the heads of states and ratified by the parliaments of the two countries. Kazakhstan is seeking to develop its own space program - to establish cooperation with Astrium satellite production. There is an agreement between Russia and Kazakhstan to build launch complex "Baiterek".

    Today, the heads of governments of Russia and Kazakhstan decided to raise the level of intergovernmental commissions on Baikonur. The Russian side was headed by First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov. We agreed that the first meeting of the commission will be held next March in Baikonur. But to speak of the transfer of Kazakhstan or finishing lease prematurely.

    Separately, the question is on the complex "Baiterek". Talgat Musabayev was made many claims to the Russian side, including the construction budget. But because the cost of construction of the launch complex at $ 1.6 billion was not taken by us from the ceiling. And if our partners there are questions, we are ready to show the cost of establishing a similar launch pad for "hangar" at Plesetsk. If we bring to mind some of the stages of discussions prospects "Baiterek", we can see that there is not all depends on the amount. For example, a long time could not agree on a place in the starting complex. Kazkosmos insisted on the 40th floor, our experts convincingly argued that this is unrealistic. Then there was no agreement on the processing facility. And so on a variety of issues. Today, my colleagues from Kazakhstan are discussing the possibility of replacing the project "Baiterek" booster "Angara" to "Zenith".

    - We are talking about the use of the starting position, which is currently leased to Russia?

    - Yes.

    - But in addition, Kazakhstan has recently interested in acquiring a significant stake in the company "Kosmotras", specializing in foreign exchange carrier launches "Dnepr" ...

    - Besides, the government commission on foreign investment has already approved the deal. We think this is absolutely normal. If Kazakhstan wants to participate in this business, let them participate. For us it is also beneficial as part of Kazakhstan "Kosmotras" most likely will remove questions about the provision of fields fall. This is one of the vexed questions. But you first need to make a decision on the extension of the "Dnepr".

    - This summer, the media were two unauthorized statements by Defense Ministry's uneconomical to continue the program "Dnepr".

    - In those conditions, which were before, it really was not appropriate. But now our partners in Ukraine agreed to change the proportion of funding and reimbursement of costs in the project. They opened us all the financial components. We are now in conjunction with the Ministry of Defense analyze these materials, and in the near future will be decided.

    - It will be positive?

    - Possibly.

    - Representatives of Kazakhstan has been concerned with the intent to build a launch pad for "hangar" at the Baikonur East?

    - We are not in a hurry, with the decision to build a position for "hangar" in the East. Our design institute, some work in this direction, but we are not forcing them to start flight tests.

    - Testing the "Angara" Plesetsk be able to hold as scheduled - this summer?

    - Some behind schedule there, but today, and builders, and manufacturers of ground equipment shall take all measures in order to eliminate the backlog by March next year. March for us - it is control point. This month, to begin testing with gruzomaketom with the refueling layout, and have full confidence in the fact that we test flights "Angara" next year will hold, but the exact date can talk in March.

    - The missiles are ready?


    - Easy to cook. Weight will be made in the I quarter of 2013.

    - How do you assess the process of withdrawing from bankruptcy of the "Sea Launch" by RSC "Energia"?

    - "Sea Launch" - is unique from a technical point of view the project. But in financial terms the situation is extremely complicated. It has been estimated that by 2017 planned output from bankruptcy, but these calculations have to check again, to deal with the debt burden of the project. Are now doing, and we, and the Board of Directors of "energy."

    - Based on the RSC "Energia" now forming one of the largest holding companies in the aerospace industry. At the same time, the process of business combination into larger structures of several stalled amid debate in ways government reorganization Roskosmos. Whether approved to date forms and terms of association in holding?

    - The main proposals in this regard have been taken by us at the Board of Roscosmos. We are now finalizing the decisions of the board, in order to present them in January at the Military Industrial Commission. In the I quarter of next year, our proposals could be approved in principle, and then holding on to each system project will be developed, which will detail the scenario painted by the association.

    - Do you plan to create engine-holding?


    - Apparently, it will create a single holding of launch vehicles, which will include and the Khrunichev Center, and Central Design Bureau "Progress". But there will be a sub-holding for engine building, where, as seen, will the NGO "Energomash" Design Bureau Chemical Automation, Voronezh Mechanical Plant, "Proton PM" and a number of other organizations.

    - Holding of carrier rockets will be created under the Khrunichev Center?

    - Not really. "Khrunichev" and TsSKB "Progress" will be included in the holding equals. As well as, for example, the United Shipbuilding Corporation includes "Sevmash", "Admiralty Shipyards", "Northern Shipyard". No one is absorbed. Also intend to do and we are. And engine sub-holding is not close to "Khrunichev" or the Samara Space Center, and the management company.

    - As a result, RSC "Energia" lose control over NGOs "Energomash" in the near future?

    - It was not quite right when the "Energy" by NGOs "Energomash".

    - It's not complicate the "Energy" business with "Sea Launch"?

    - And how this can complicate the corporation business with the "Sea Launch"?

    - Having received the NGO "Energomash" in control, "Energy" was able to sign with the company very best for you contract to buy engines for "Sea Launch" - at a cost of $ 10.6 million in a single RD-171M. Well below the price of the same engines under the Federal Space Program - $ 16.6 million each in 2010 prices. These figures are in the auditor's report, which states clearly that the management company has forced NGOs "Energomash" sell engines below cost.

    - This year, the NGO "Energomash" contract for the supply of engines for $ 14.5 million That was before, do not want to talk. I myself could not understand much, including - as might sell engines below cost if the charter company says that the goal is profit. At least now drives are purchased from the manufacturer above cost.

    - What are the results of the test gave Roscosmos NGOs "Energomash"?


    - The test will be carried out until February next year. Should wait for the results. I note that she is not with us for someone to punish, but to first find out in the future to prevent the processes that may threaten the enterprise. The NGO "Energomash" very good science school, a very good test base. There's a well-organized production engines. Americans buy RD-180 energomashevskogo production and are now talks with us about the possibility of acquiring promising RD-193.

    - How they want to use the RD-193?


    - To develop their carriers. They were convinced that the Russian company makes a quality product. Best liquid rocket engines in the world. And it is easier to buy than to catch up in this area. That is why we are extremely important to maintain the NGO "Energomash" and ensure its development.

    - Are there any plans to increase the share of Russian Federal Space Agency of the state in the authorized capital of the RSC "Energy" to the control?

    - Yes, we have already put the matter in question to the owners of the enterprise. That is, to those who owns shares RSC "Energia". This corporation does today's most advanced things in the direction of manned spaceflight: promising manned spacecraft, new modules for the ISS. But in terms of modernization of the enterprise is now not in the best condition. This is due to the fact that the former management and founders feared the erosion of its share in the company as a result of the government's investment program aimed at retooling.

    We have had talks with the owners of RSC "Energia", and they are not fundamentally opposed to the investment program, which is likely to be held in the framework of the Federal Space Programme 2016-2025 period. In these terms plans to create long-term transport vehicle will develop a strategy for further development of manned space flight, including from the point of view of a lunar mission.

    - What is the possibility of new space tourism to the ISS? The media has reported that singer Sarah Brightman is already preparing for the flight ...

    - We are not opposed to training, but so far we have no contract to that effect has been signed. By agreement between Roscosmos and NASA planned extremely long expedition to the ISS crew of two in 2015, people will spend at the station for a year. At the same time, the warranty term of the spacecraft "Soyuz" in orbit - no more than six months. That is, during the extremely long expedition ship docked to the ISS needs to be changed. Question - how to do it? You can put it in two tourists and 10 days to return back. The second option - to do some expedition. But the 10-day expedition is impractical - in fact it will be hidden in the performance of tourism trained astronauts. You can extend the life of the expedition up to 40 days, but then on the ISS will not be six and nine. All this pulls the start of another cargo ship "Progress", and this is serious money we are unlikely to find, as the program up to 2015 is already laid out. Therefore, we have not decided who to put in two free seats. Send our trained astronaut to have it on 10 days to fly there in fact a tourist by the state - perhaps it is not entirely justified. Moreover, our European colleagues have told us that they would like to purchase a vacant chair for her astronaut. Now we weigh all the "pros" and "cons." Plan to take a decision in the I quarter of next year.

    - The emergence of supply chains ISS ship Dragon somehow affects the interests of the Russian Federation?

    - Nothing wrong with that I do not see. We have contractual obligations with NASA until 2016, inclusive, and any changes to them are not provided. The appearance of the ships Dragon allows us some offload capacity, used to create the cargo ship "Progress". Tense production schedule for production of the four "Unions" and six of "progress" for the annual run, forcing us to move to three-shift schedule. And for all of our regulations all performed for space programs at night forbidden to do. Specialists and supervisors should be with a clear head, because these measures provide a higher reliability of our equipment, used for manned programs.

    - On the question of the reliability of space equipment. Recently, the preparation of the launch of Sputnik "Glonass-K2" from Plesetsk representatives of the State Commission disagreed to the fitness of the upper stage "Fregat". Representatives of the Ministry of Defense "razgonnik" rejected, file a claim with the manufacturer - Lavochkin. At the same time, the head of the enterprise Victor Hart says that the device is suitable and ready for launch. You have to understand the situation?

    - In order to continue these discussions did not occur, we will offer to take Defense spacecraft, launched on their behalf, in orbit. That there was no dilution of responsibility, someone must answer one. Whatever was said, but "Frigate", which is mentioned in this context, took the military office of the Ministry of Defence. And when one side says that the booster is not ready, I'm having very serious doubts that he knows the situation better than the manufacturer and specialists of the military office. So this "Frigate" flight, and all the needs of the state commission, we will consider.

    - At what stage is the agreement with the European Space Agency project ExoMars?

    - The agreement in principle to work there. The agreement will be signed. We begin to finance the project.

    - To what extent?

    - Enough to realize it.

    - And from Russia in the project, in addition to the launch vehicle, something else is needed?

    - One of only a rocket, our participation is not limited. We were able to agree on the following scheme of interaction: in 2016, "Proton" launch to Mars European orbiter, which will be installed several Russian scientific instruments and our experimental lander.

    Then, in 2018, will go to the Red Planet, the rover unit, equipped with a wide range of European and Russian scientific equipment that will allow for the first time in history to get a sample of Martian soil from a depth of several meters. In this scientific data will be relayed through the orbiter mission of 2016.

    December 21, I had a telephone conversation with the head of the ESA, Jean-Jacques Dordenom, and we agreed to go to the signing of the agreement in the I quarter of next year. We have a mutual understanding that the delay due to the complexity of formal procedures of the ESA. Until 20 January, we agreed to coordinate the text of the agreement up to the last comma.

    - For some more co-operation with ESA projects planned? As part of re-implementing the project "Phobos-Grunt", for example? ..

    - We have an agreement with them to cooperate in the Martian project. We are moving in sync across the moon on joint projects studying the Sun, studying Ganymede - satellite of Jupiter. On all these issues, working groups, whose purpose - to prepare the agreement. In general, the future implementation of major space projects is impossible without international integration.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:12 pm

    Russia Launches $70 Bln Space Program for 2013-2020

    MOSCOW, December 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will spend 2.1 trillion rubles (about $70 billion) under a state program for the development of the national space industry in 2013-2020, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Thursday.

    “The total volume of funding is quite significant: 2.1 trillion rubles, including extrabudgetary sources,” he said.

    The program is designed to ensure the country retains its position as a leading global space power, while also supporting its defense capability, and boosting economic and social development, Medvedev said.

    “The program will enable our country to effectively participate in forward-looking projects, such the ISS [International Space Station], the study of the Moon, Mars and other celestial bodies in the solar system,” he said.

    Dmitry Paison, director for development at the Skolkovo space cluster, told RIA Novosti that the program provides the framework for other space-related programs.

    “It comprises the Federal Space Program, the Federal Special Program for the Development of the Glonass System, the program for the development of space launch centers and the non-classified part of the program for the technical modernization of the industry,” he said.

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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:18 pm

    Nice , Hope they manage to retain their comptitive edge with that kind of spending
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:14 pm

    That's $10 billion a year; not half bad - but I just have a feeling that the whole space-industrial complex, space agency, etc... still have rot and necrosis from the 90s in places; it's going to take a while to clean it all out.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  TR1 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:03 pm

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27216/#comments

    NPO Energomash received a contract to deliver 30 RD-180 engines to the US within the next 5 years, for use in Delta-5 rockets.

    Through previous contracts, 63 engines have already been delivered, 40 of which have been used up.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:42 am

    Very sensible of the Americans BTW... they can buy these engines at a fraction of the cost of developing new ones of their own and the result is the most powerful rocket engines available at a price they couldn't make it for themselves even if they had developed them for free.

    Very sensible.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:16 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27216/#comments

    NPO Energomash received a contract to deliver 30 RD-180 engines to the US within the next 5 years, for use in Delta-5 rockets.

    Through previous contracts, 63 engines have already been delivered, 40 of which have been used up.

    US rockets are being alienated with Russian rocket engines and RD series is not the only one. Check out NK-33 from legendary N-1

    project that was supposed to take out Russians on Moon now being core of US Antares rocket.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:28 pm

    All the money being invested by the Russian government and spent by NASA on Russian rockets will likely lead to even better rockets being developed.

    They still need powerful rockets to get heavy objects into space, though they are working on nuclear powered rockets for use in space as a sort of space tug to go to the planets or to clean up earth orbit.

    The vehicle for cleaning up earths space rubbish could collect the material and then melt tiny particles that can be accelerated to enormous speeds in a centrifuge and then ejected down back to earth at an angle that gives the space craft extra speed or less speed to help it move to a higher or lower orbit to collect more debris. The material thrown back to earth will simply burn up in our atmosphere and no longer represent a threat to satellites.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    They still need powerful rockets to get heavy objects into space, though they are working on nuclear powered rockets for use in space as a sort of space tug to go to the planets or to clean up earth orbit.

    Angara should settle that problem. Light version of that rocket powered with RD-191 is supposed to fly this year.

    Missile is modular and by adding more RD-191 to it will make missile heavier.

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