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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  TR1 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:48 am

    Might be a Kh-55SM no?

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  gaurav on Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:04 pm

    Thanks Victor..
    So it seems they are not yet testing new air launched missles ..
    Perhaps they will test it from tu-160 and TU-22M3 bombers..

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:50 pm

    gaurav wrote:Thanks Victor..
    So it seems they are not yet testing new air launched missles ..
    Perhaps they will test it from tu-160 and TU-22M3 bombers..
    Testing of newer versions of Kh-101/102 is over and they are in production now. The thing that they did not fire those missiles does not mean a thing. Kh-101/102/Kalibr etc all 

    passed military testing. Russia recently announced that they will produce 1500 cruise missiles (of all types) annually so there will be plenty of time to see them in action. Very Happy

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:04 pm

    Raduga-1M communication satellite is in orbit

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:55 pm

    I wonder with launch mass of 2.5 T why was Proton-M used when the last Proton-M launch put 6T sat in orbit ?

    Also with a launch life of 5 years its very low for communication satellite which today works for 15 years.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  xeno on Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:13 pm

    It is a military communication satellite.
    The commercial communication satellite AM5, which will be launced next month (26/12) by Russia, has 15 years life.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Austin on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:20 am

    I think that Proton-M launches a lighter military satellite in GSO orbit while commercial heavier satellite are launched in GTO orbit.

    5 years is short life for a military sat , 10 years is resonable today all sats are designed for 15 years.

    Probably an indication that Russian own electronic industry needs to buck up

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:12 am

    More likely an indication that they are expecting results of investment in the electronics industry so keeping the satellite up for a long time is not so useful.

    Their communications requirements are going to expand enormously over the next few years with the introduction of a lot of net centric vehicles and equipment, with a lot of new manned and unmanned platforms using communications demand is going to radically increase.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:42 pm

    Austin wrote:I think that Proton-M launches a lighter military satellite in GSO orbit while commercial heavier satellite are launched in GTO orbit.

    5 years is short life for a military sat , 10 years is resonable today all sats are designed for 15 years.

    Probably an indication that Russian own electronic industry needs to buck up
    Why would that be a sign of it? What brings you to that conclusion when other Russian sats with similar hardware has higher life expectancy. I think you are looking for a reason that isnt there.

    I would see more like at the concept of "is this the sat of our needs?" "Will it work for us properly?" Do we have the equipment all set up properly to handle the communications?

    Lots of other questions.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:More likely an indication that they are expecting results of investment in the electronics industry so keeping the satellite up for a long time is not so useful.

    Their communications requirements are going to expand enormously over the next few years with the introduction of a lot of net centric vehicles and equipment, with a lot of new manned and unmanned platforms using communications demand is going to radically increase.
    The electronics industry is already paying off in Russia. Elvees and mikron are leading in semiconductor development for civil/military/space technologies. Majority of controllers for sats are designed by these two companies. Only recently has Russian mod has looked at other sources like mikroclet for space development.

    Edit: not mikron but RTC module makes for satellites. Actually, majority of their products can be found in multiple of satellites in Russia, including glonass and alike, which all have different lifespans. With the introduction of mram next year in Russia and if roscosmos and mikroclet come up with a new cell processor for satellites, it will make things quite interesting, especially for private developers as there will be more options and competition.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Austin on Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:30 am

    The cause of the launch failure "Bulava" was a violation of technology in the manufacture of the material to the nozzle
    http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/959458.html

    The cause of the launch failure "Bulava" September 6, was a violation of technology in the manufacture of the material to the nozzle. Itar-Tass said the first deputy chairman of the Military-Industrial Commission under the Government of the Russian Federation Ivan Kharchenko. He could not say whether his work has been commission to investigate the causes of the accident, but referred to the operational reports. "If an idea: the manufacture of the material from which made the nozzle was broken technology," - he said. "When all the cards picked up, it was determined that the same defect is material for another three rockets / the same production batch /", - he added.

    First deputy head of the military-industrial complex emphasized that we are not talking about any significant alteration of missiles, because the defect concerns the sliding nozzle. "It's just about changing to three more rockets from the party itself that element," - he stressed. Kharchenko did not specify whether already done this work by proposing to address this question to Roscosmos. "But this is not some fatal error. And for us it was important that after the missile was tested in the trial serial number 202" Borey "and actually work to launch complex, work boats and all of its systems have no complaints," - he added agency. In this regard, he said, a good thing that the defect was discovered, since it will be possible to remove it on three missiles.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:42 pm

    Roscosmos starts designing super-heavy LV with 100-tonne payload (Part 3)

    Cant read without paying it but the title said it all. 100 ton spacetruck is in development.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:24 pm

    today is the anniversary of Buran Space Shuttle

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:03 pm

    New 100 ton missile goes in the development phase. 


    Russia starts ambitious super-heavy space rocket project

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:23 am

    Viktor wrote:New 100 ton missile goes in the development phase. 


    Russia starts ambitious super-heavy space rocket project
    nice... 3 rocket launches and they have another ISS.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:10 am

    Well the Americans are patting themselves on the back for ending the purchase of Russian Helicopters for the Afghans...

    http://en.ria.ru/world/20131114/184698067/US-Cancels-Russian-Helicopter-Deal-Amid-Syria-Standoff--Senator.html

    I wonder when they will demand NASA stop buying Russian RD-180 rocket motors to power all their heavy lift rockets taking all their spy equipment into space for the next 10 years.

    http://rt.com/news/russian-rocket-engine-ban-039/


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:40 pm

    GarryB wrote:Well the Americans are patting themselves on the back for ending the purchase of Russian Helicopters for the Afghans...

    http://en.ria.ru/world/20131114/184698067/US-Cancels-Russian-Helicopter-Deal-Amid-Syria-Standoff--Senator.html
    Its oftopic but I want to make a thing clear. Pentagon will buy 63 Mi-171 helicopters from Russia. That 63 helo deal is not in question no matter that it comes in phases.

    The question is that Pentagon wanted to buy another 15 Mi-171 on top of 63 helo deal when the deal is done and that is the contract which was stopped on

    that Texas congressman initiative.

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:16 pm

    1 bin for RD-180 delivery up to 2018

    SP "RD-Amros" was confirmed by order of RD-180 for use in the U.S

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Firebird on Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:16 pm

    Viktor wrote:New 100 ton missile goes in the development phase. 


    Russia starts ambitious super-heavy space rocket project
    Wow. 100 tons is a vast size. I've even heard a figure of 175 ton mentioned...
    Thats just under 4 x 40 feet sea container loads per trip, if we take the 100 ton figure.

    If this can be done economically, I wonder what possibilities this could open up, in addition to the usual satellites/ISS additions?

    Maybe something like this?
    Plugged into the sun: Solar panel satellite could beam a THIRD of humanity's power to Earth by 2025, claims former Nasa engineer

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:50 pm

    Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy russia 




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    SAR-401 cosmonaut

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:50 am

    Not an autonomous robot, this is more a controlled robot extension of a human.

    Would be ideal in situations like bomb disposal and dealing with dangerous substances (WMDs).

    Also operating in dangerous environments like space or deep underwater.

    Oops... here is the link:

    http://en.ria.ru/video/20131128/185100173/Robot-Cosmonaut-Shows-Off-Skills-in-Space.html


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Viktor on Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:07 pm

    The idea is to unite Energia concern and Roscosmos into one company to:

    - optimize production/engineers/projects and increase quality
    - drastically raise efficiency of the company to better exploit allocated money

    MOSCOW, December 2 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday signed into law a decree to establish a state corporation that will consolidate developers and manufacturers of spacecraft.


    The new United Rocket and Space Corporation will take over manufacturing facilities from the Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos), whose prestige has been severely dented in recent years by a string of failed rocket launches.
    The decree was posted on the Russian government’s legal information website on Monday afternoon.
    The country is set to radically centralize its space industry in a bid to combat major inefficiencies and cut down on the misuse of funds under plans unveiled by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who oversees the defense and aerospace sectors.

    Putin Signs Decree to Establish New Space Corporation

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:11 pm

    Russia returns to old soviet system i see

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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:08 pm

    Russia returns to old soviet system i see
    What?

    Sorry George but the Soviet system was not all one big company like most in the west seems to think... sure it was all run by the government, but there were dozens of different design bureaus that only handled design, then there were factories and subcontracting companies to make parts and assemble them... If unification of the various industries was going back to the Soviet system then there would be no such thing as MiG, Sukhoi, Ilyusion, Tupolev, Beriev, Lavochkin... they would all be one design bureau that made planes.

    In fact Lavochkin, who made planes during WWII was shifted to making super large cruise missiles and then space craft as one of many other design bureaus that did the same.

    Unification of the different design bureaus into one might sound like a recipe for disaster, but eliminating internal competition and redundancy is a good way of reducing extra costs and unnecessary spending.

    There is a claim that competition and market forces is the most efficient way to do things but that is not the case most of the time either.


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    Re: Russia: Space News and Discussion

    Post  Austin on Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:11 am

    ILS Proton-M successfully launches Inmarsat-5 F1

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