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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:49 am

    But unfortunately 2nd and 3rd generation soviet fighters had pathetic maneuverability, for example the MiG-23 had a max G limit of only 6,5G, same as the F111(!)

    4gen soviet fighters however gave something older fighters lacked before-excellent maneuverability.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  TR1 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:29 am

    No, the MiG-23ML already had a load limit of 8 Gs, not to even speak of MLD.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:13 am

    No, the MiG-23ML already had a load limit of 8 Gs, not to even speak of MLD.

    And an 8g turn rate is already better than the F-18...


    4gen soviet fighters however gave something older fighters lacked before-excellent maneuverability.

    Yet with helmet mounted sights and high off boresight AAMs like R-73 and R-27T and R-27ET they could defeat pretty much any western fighter.

    But unfortunately 2nd and 3rd generation soviet fighters had pathetic maneuverability, for example the MiG-23 had a max G limit of only 6,5G, same as the F111(!)

    You do say some funny things sometimes my friend... do you mean they lacked manouver capability like the Mig-17 and Mig-19 and Mig-21 compared with F-4 Phantoms or F-105s and F-104s?


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:49 pm

    I agree with what you said, but if soviet fighters were all mainly designed for interceptions how would they provide long range  and duration air superiority, escort and air cover missions?

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:35 am

    They weren't all interceptors... the Mig-19/-21, Su-9/-11, Su-15, Mig-23, Mig-25, Mig-31, Tu-128 were all interceptors, but the Mig-15/-17/-21/-23/-29 and Su-27 were fighters too... designed for manouvering combat, though the Mig-23, Mig-29, and Su-27 added BVR missile capability they still carried short range missiles too... and a gun.


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:49 pm

    Interesting development from Belarus. New ECM pod for existing fighters.

    Belarus has experienced a new complex of Defense combat aircraft

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:28 pm

    nice pics and in the background 36D6 radar (on a little hill Very Happy )


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:08 pm

    Russian Fighter Jets to Deploy to Belarus by Year End - Minister

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    Post  Viktor on Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:35 pm

    Russia will give Belarus four C-300

    Russian Defense Ministry intends to transfer Belarus four anti-aircraft missile system S-300. On this, as reported by ITAR-TASS , Russian Defense Minister Gen. Sergei Shoigu after a meeting with his Belarusian counterpart, Lieutenant General Yuri Zhadobin. Delivery systems will be made ​​in the framework of the development of a unified regional air defense system.
    Russia and Belarus signed an agreement to form a united regional air defense system in February 2009. It is expected that this system will form the basis of the Eastern zone of the CIS unified air defense. At the end of 2012 it was planned to put into operation a digital control system unified air defense system of Russia and Belarus, the management of which will be carried out in an automated mode.
    Earlier it was reported that adopted a common Russian-Belarusian air defense systems have to stand up anti-aircraft missile systems S-400 and "Tor-M2", which will be supplied to Belarus on favorable terms. General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces to assess the needs of air defense missile systems in 16 battalions of S-400, which will have to provide protection from cruise missiles from the West. Not excluded that a single air defense radar and get the type "Voronezh-DM".
    As part of the formation of a unified air defense system of the CIS will also create the Caucasian and Central Asian zone defense. At the end of January 2013 an agreement on the formation of a unified air defense was signed with Kazakhstan, which until the end of 2013 can be freely supplied C-300 .
    Expected to join the CIS unified air defense as Armenia, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.After the formation of the unified regional air defense systems will be developed rules of combat duty and exchange of information within the CIS air defense.

    Huh .... lots of interesting information. 

    - Belarus will be given 4 batteries of used Russian S-300PMU1 from the stocks
    - Russian need in the western sector calls for 16 S-400 batteries 
    - all new digital command and control will manage combined Russia-Belarus air defense
    - Kazahstan is paper cleared for deliveries of air defense systems (there was a talk about 12 S-300PMU2 - that questiong will actualize in the coming months)
    - Formation of Western/Causasian and Central Asian zone defense
    - Armenia, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan will be integrated

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:38 am

    From exercises in Belarus:D 


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:25 pm

    Slowly but making progress 

    Belarus has resumed modernization of MiG-29

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:45 pm

    Su-27 withdrawn from service in Belarus

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  mack8 on Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:15 pm

    It seems they might be interested in MiG-35 and Su-30, although given the reasons the Su-27 was retired from use, Su-30 wouldn't make much sense.
    Btw wonder what's going to happen with those Su-27s , perhaps they will be refurbished and sold?

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:10 pm

    As arranged during the 2013  thumbsup 


    Belarus expects four S-300 missile systems from Russia



    This will further enhance Belarus AD with the ability to guide 48 missiles on 24 targets all in all  thumbsup

    - > When you see it only this addition to Belarus IAD netwoork has the ability to shoot down half of Poland F-16 fleet in a matter of minutes. Mighty stuff.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:04 pm

    Viktor wrote:As arranged during the 2013  thumbsup 


    Belarus expects four S-300 missile systems from Russia



    This will further enhance Belarus AD with the ability to guide 48 missiles on 24 targets all in all  thumbsup

    - > When you see it only this addition to Belarus IAD netwoork has the ability to shoot down half of Poland F-16 fleet in a matter of minutes. Mighty stuff.
    Certainly... If they are well trained they should be able to repel the attacks of every single European country, including all neighboors.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:37 pm

    As Sa'iqa wrote:If they are well trained they should be able to repel the attacks of every single European country, including all neighboors.

    Belarus military was the only military that did not face degradation due to SSSR fallout. Its extremely skillful and disciplined.
    Their shooting at Russian training grounds is always highly praised.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  zg18 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:14 pm

    Belarus put into active duty first VHF radar "Vostok-D"




    http://www.mil.by/ru/news/24484/

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:18 am

    Link from the producer with all the specs and several very good pictures of the Vostok-D radar

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  zg18 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:15 pm

    Vostok-D


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:47 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Belarus modernizing MiG-29 and Su-25

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:47 pm

    U-turn  thumbsup 

    Belarus decided against debit Su-27 fighters

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:25 pm

    medo wrote:Belarus is building very capable air defense.

    Belarus already has stronger air defense than any EU nation.

    Belarus expects delivery of four battalions of S-300 in 2015

    I expected that Belarus would get 4 S-300 batteries sooner but 2015 is not far away either.

    Specifically, in 2015, the expected supply of four divisions Russian antiaircraft missile systems S-300.

    Protivnik radar will be delivered too.

    There will also be launched contracts for the supply of three-axis radar "Enemy."

    and new YAK-130  thumbsup 

    Next year will begin and the first disbursement for purchase of trainer aircraft Yak-130.


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  medo on Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:13 pm

    I think Belarus will get newer S-300PMU1 and not older S-300PS like Kazakhstan, so maybe they have to wait that Russia receive enough S-400 to replace them.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:17 pm

    medo wrote:I think Belarus will get newer S-300PMU1 and not older S-300PS like Kazakhstan, so maybe they have to wait that Russia receive enough S-400 to replace them.

    Or perhaps they need to wait much longer despite contracting S-300 much earlier than Kazahstan because Russia will modernize those S-300 to Favorit standard.

    Later on they could just add more S-400 instead of replacing them  Very Happy

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:33 pm

    Belarus needs newer aircrafts. Since they are a smaller nation with very small population, a good airforce will guarantee protection. Maybe replace all those MiG's and Su-27's for newer Sukhois all done under CSTO management and funding. More Yak-130's would be great for training.

    Or find a cheaper alternative than Su-30's, as they are expensive. Hence why a need to get an alternative of PAK FA out eventually.

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