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    Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:26 pm

    GDANSK, August 30 (RIA Novosti) - The Belarusian Defense Ministry has confirmed the deaths of two Air Force pilots in a fighter jet crash at an air show in central Poland on Sunday.

    The Belarusian Su-27 Flanker fighter crashed while performing aerobatic maneuvers as part of the Radom Air Show. Polish TV channels showed the jet performing a stunt before disappearing behind trees.

    The Belta news agency quoted ministry spokesman Vyacheslav Remenchuk as saying Col. Alexander Morfintsky and Col. Alexander Zhuravlevich, both deputy commanders, died in the accident.

    According to preliminary data, the plane went down after a bird got caught in the engine.

    "The pilots guided the plane away from the populated area without ejecting, and at the cost of their own lives, prevented more severe consequences," the spokesman told Belta.

    Two weeks ago during preparations for the MAKS-2009 air show outside Moscow, two Su-27 planes collided, killing one of the pilots.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:45 am

    The Flanker family are just dropping like flies this year. RIP to the pilot.

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    Defense Ministry of Belarus saved on insurance crashed Su-27

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:35 pm

    Defense Ministry of Belarus saved on insurance crashed Su-27
    02.09.2009

    Guest status in Poland Su-27UBM Air Byelorussia was insured only for 900 thousand dollars. This, as reported by Interfax, said Director General of Belarusian insurance company Promtransinvest Love Simonchik. "Unfortunately, a crashed fighter was not insured for the full amount" - the source said.

    Note that according to the site airport, the cost of the Su-27 is about 35 million.

    Simonchik also reported that the insurer combat aircraft by the Ministry of Defense of Belarus, and the payment of compensation to be held within ten days after the representatives of the companies act. They are currently working on the crash site. Each of the dead pilots of the Belarusian Air Force, according to the head "Promtransinvest", was insured for 15 thousand dollars.

    Belarus fighter aircraft crashed on Aug. 30, 2009 at an air show in Radom Poland during a demonstration flight. According to the military department of Belarus, the cause of the disaster might hit a bird in the engine intake, and the pilots managed to eject from the fact that the aircraft was taken away far away from the settlement.

    However, as noted by Polish experts, quoted by local media, the pilots could make a mistake, too late to begin the maneuver at low altitude. Among other reasons cited the unreliability of the aircraft, because Belarusian Su-27 is significantly different from the modern versions that are released for other countries.

    According to the military department of Belarus, piloted the aircraft officers have sufficient experience. Thus, the deputy commander of the Western tactical command of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces, Colonel Alexander Marfitsky had about 2700 flying hours. However, as noted in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda in Belarus "his daughter, in a foreign air show for the first time an officer was involved.

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    Russia to deliver more S-300 air defense systems to Belarus

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:54 pm

    Russia to deliver more S-300 air defense systems to Belarus



    Russia will continue deliveries of S-300 air defense systems to Belarus, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said on Wednesday.

    Belarus has several battalions equipped with Russian-made S-300 air defense systems on combat duty as part of the Russian-Belarusian integrated air defense network.

    "We have completed the first stage of modernization of the Belarusian S-300 air defense systems and agreed to intensify work on further deliveries of these systems to Belarus," Serdyukov said after a meeting of Russian and Belarusian defense officials in Minsk.

    Moscow and Minsk signed an agreement in February 2009 on the joint protection of the Russia-Belarus Union State's airspace and the creation of an integrated regional air defense network.

    "We are strengthening this network," Serdyukov said.

    Modernized versions of S-300 have a maximum engagement range of up to 150 kilometers (93 miles).

    MINSK, April 20 (RIA Novosti)
    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110420/163620533.html

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:55 am

    Good point RP.

    So the question is which versions of S-300 are Belarus getting.

    The article mentions the performance of upgraded versions of S-300 but doesn't actually mention the type of missile they are transferring.

    Are these systems new build or retiring Russian armed forces stocks?

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Thu May 05, 2011 9:17 pm

    GarryB wrote:Good point RP.

    So the question is which versions of S-300 are Belarus getting.

    The article mentions the performance of upgraded versions of S-300 but doesn't actually mention the type of missile they are transferring.

    Are these systems new build or retiring Russian armed forces stocks?

    I doubt Russia produced mutch newer S-300 for its own forces since early 90ies so I guess this has to be

    some of the newly produced S-300PMU2 Favorit systems as building common unified airdefence system requires all

    parties involved to have similar quality system otherwise makes no sence.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Fri May 06, 2011 3:54 am

    Or it might be a case of older systems that have been in Russian service getting a quick overhaul and moved to Belarus equipped with newish missiles.

    There will still be lots of old SAM systems in Russian service that are relatively obsolete like SA-3s and SA-5s that probably operate with old model SA-10s.

    The purpose of the old SA-3s is to help defend the SA-10s, but Panstir-S1 would do a much better job and for not that much money in comparison to the cost of keeping the old SA-3 systems operational.

    Regarding the compatibility any Soviet SAM should be compatible if they used to be operating in Russia then they should still work in Belarus.

    This wont exactly be charity, Belarus are likely paying something for this, so they might be choosing to take the older SA-10 systems rather than let Russia retire them and replace them with newer models.

    That is not to say they wont be upgraded before they are moved to Belarus, or indeed that they will not be new build systems.

    Just wondering.

    What I mean is that it would be less destabilising putting 90km range SAMs in Belarus than putting 150km late model SAMs in Belarus.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Fri May 06, 2011 4:19 pm

    Yes all this is purely speculative nature.

    But earlier there has being some talk about Russia sending S-400 system to Belarus or Belarus acquiring S-400

    on CSTO prices. I remember reading such news provoked rising eyebrow on some neighboring states.

    Iskander was involved too.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Sat May 07, 2011 1:38 am

    I could certainly see Belarus getting S-400 before some other export clients, but I also rather think the Russian military will absorb production capacity of this system for quite some time to come.

    If the ABM system for europe does not properly include Russia then I could see S-400s and Iskanders in Belarus as an initial response, and possibly a withdrawl of Russia from the INF treaty as another option.

    S-400 in Belarus and Iskander would be a reversable move Russia could use to say to the US and EU ... do you really want to exclude us?
    If they do then withdrawing from the INF treaty means they can start making missiles that are not strategic and are therefore not counted in the START treaty, but can target the ABM system in Europe to overwhelm it so that it doesn't effect the strategic balance.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  George1 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:24 pm

    They will retire Su-24s. Su-30 could a be good choice, if they have money of course

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:57 pm

    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110916/166882507.html

    So they might be buying Indias old Su-30K aircraft with an upgrade.

    Don't know what they are talking about obsolete when so many Su-27s are still operational, these will be a significant upgrade and quite capable aircraft.

    If Libya had had 100 of these Gaddafi would still be breathing...

    I think Russia needs to help Belarus help itself.

    A friendly strong Belarus is much better for Russia than a weak broken Belarus that might turn to NATO membership for salvation...

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  SOC on Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:50 pm

    Viktor wrote:As integrated as part of CIS it received 4 batteries/regiments (??) of S-300.

    They got four S-300PS batteries from Russia. Two went near Hrodna, two went near Brest.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:03 am

    Belarus to Boost Air Defense with New Russian Warplanes

    Belarus will receive modern Russian-made combat jets to protect the airspace over the borders of the Russia-Belarus Union State, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said.

    “We discussed many issues related to the Air Force. I asked for assistance and I got it,” Lukashenko told reporters on Friday, commenting on his recent talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.

    “In the near future, we will receive modern [Russian] aircraft to patrol our joint borders,” the Belarusian president said, without specifying the type of the warplanes.

    Lukashenko explained that the combat jets in service with the Belarusian air force have become obsolete and worn out.

    “We could still use them if a war breaks out, but in the time of peace we need modern aircraft,” he said.

    According to official data, the Belarusian air force has 38 Soviet-era MiG-29 and 17 Su-27 fighter jets capable of carrying out air patrol missions.

    The Russia-Belarus Union State is a supranational entity formed in 1999 as a unique attempt at political and economic integration among the former Soviet republics.

    Both countries have also made fairly great strides in regional military alignment, coordinated air defense and joint military maneuvers.

    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120922/176155134.html

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  TR1 on Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:15 am

    More handouts to Lukashenko.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:16 am

    The first move to the west for Russian gear for perhaps 2-3 decades.

    Besides it is either new production work with future upgrade work or upgrade work with the potential for more later on for a Russian aircraft factory.

    Belarus is not huge so there is no need for Flankers... I would give them some Mig-29M2s and perhaps look at upgrading their existing Mig-29s to SMT standard, that would give them maximum performance at minimum cost and also throw some work MIGs way as well, without Poland getting all upset about Su-35s in Belarus.


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:24 pm

    Belarus will acquire Su-30 aircraft previously operated by India

    The new fighters for Belarusian air forces promised by Russia in fact have been operated by India before. The vehicles are owned by Irkut Corporation, Gazeta.ru reports with reference to Vedomosti.

    The president of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko said on September 21st that during his meeting with Vladimir Putin “a lot of questions connected with the air forces have been discussed. I asked for the supported and got it. In the nearest future we will acquire advanced aircraft». This refers to the above mentioned vehicles.

    18 Su-30Кs have been delivered to Indian air forces inlate 1990s by the Irkutsk Aviation Plant as a provisional measure until the start of more advanced Su-30MKI fighter’sproduction. The contracts have been signed in 1996 and 2000 on delivery and licensed production of 190 Su-30MKIs on behalf of India.

    In 2007 India has signed a contract on delivery of 18 Su-30MKIs in exchange for return of 18 Su-30Ks, which have passed into the ownership of Irkut Corporation and have been delivered to the 558 Aircraft repair plant (Baranovichi, Belarus) in order to avoid paying Russian VAT.

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2012/9/27/1237/

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:01 pm

    SOC wrote:
    Viktor wrote:As integrated as part of CIS it received 4 batteries/regiments (??) of S-300.

    They got four S-300PS batteries from Russia. Two went near Hrodna, two went near Brest.

    There was some time ago title on interfax military that I can not opet saying Russia will supply Belarus with S-300PMU1.

    Do you know something about it.

    Also Belarus was supposed to get second Tor-M2 battery.

    Few pic from its exercise.





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    Post  TR1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:01 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/407154.html

    The Belorussian AF has stopped operating the Su-27 !!!!

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    Post  Ogannisyan8887 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:41 am

    TR1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/407154.html

    The Belorussian AF has stopped operating the Su-27 !!!!


    Why?

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:08 am

    I doubt Belarus has money to spare to buy some Su-30 or anything of that kind.

    I think it is left operating only Mig-29.

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    Post  TR1 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:47 am

    Ogannisyan8887 wrote:
    TR1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/407154.html

    The Belorussian AF has stopped operating the Su-27 !!!!


    Why?

    Cost.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:22 pm

    Nice, 4 division (of S-300PMU1 most likely) are going to reinforce Belarus sky.


    Russia in 2014, Belarus will supply four divisions of S-300


    Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that Russia and further suggests to consider issues needed to better protect their Belarusian colleagues.

    MINSK, April 23 - RIA Novosti. Russia in 2014 will supply to Belarus four divisions missile systems S-300, the head of the Defense Ministry of Russia Sergei Shoigu at a meeting with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko.

    "In 2014, Russia, on your agreement with Russian President Vladimir Putin will deliver four divisions of S-300 to protect the air space," - said Shoigu.

    He said that Russia and further suggests to consider issues needed to better protect their Belarusian colleagues. Presidents supported the exercises "West-2013".

    "We're getting very active, and we hope that this will allow more time to check how much we are willing to jointly respond to the challenge, and that must also be done to ensure the security of our countries," - said Shoigu.

    He also said that as part of the state union of Belarusian and Russian military strong relationship. Moreover, there is a joint program. In particular, the creation of regional air defense system, which should be reliable and thorough protection of the airspace and borders of the Union State. In addition, there is a great program for Military-Technical Cooperation, said Shoigu.




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    Further Russia plans to set up an airbase in Belarus


    Russia plans to set up an air base in Belarus




    "We started to consider a plan to establish a Russian airbase here with fighter planes. In 2013, the aircraft commander's office will create and deliver the first link-duty combat fighters," - said the head of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu.


    MINSK, April 23 - RIA Novosti. Russian plans to establish an air base in Belarus, the first link fighter aircraft to arrive there in 2013, said Tuesday the Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at a meeting with President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko.

    "We hope that in 2015 there will Aviation Regiment, which will serve to protect our borders. We began to consider the plan to create a Russian airbase here with fighter planes. In 2013, the aircraft commander's office will create and deliver the first link-duty combat fighters" - the minister said.



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    It is also quite interesting that besides unknown number of territorial PVO S-300, Belarus operates and S-300V.

    It has been pictured on a parade year or two ago.

    S-300V


    S-300PMUx (almost side by side)


    Automated mobile command post most likely Poljana-S (Belarus production)



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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:37 pm

    This Belarus acquirement of 20 Russian planes has been a long awaited deal. Well we will see how this goes on.

    MIG-35 would be excellent choice but MIG-29M would be good enough too. Very Happy

    It is also interesting to note one sentence I have underlined below where Lukashenko speaks about air defense. He notes that

    Belarus has the most powerful air-defense in the west Very Happy and I suspect he is not kidding.

    - There are some 2 regiments of S-300 with 1 more regiment coming in 2014.
    - There are up to one whole brigade of S-300V system
    - One battery of TOR-M2 system with another one coming this year

    But there are also :

    - Osa
    - Strela-10
    - BUK

    and Belarus modernization of those systems are often even better than Russian one.
    Its command centers and radar systems are world class.


    Lukashenko: Minsk wants to acquire about 20 Russian fighter jets


    The head of Belarus noted, but to protect the borders of the country needs a Su-27 or MiG-29. At that Belarus is ready to modernize the Russian aircraft in its factories.


    MINSK, April 26 - RIA Novosti. President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko believes that the country needs a couple dozen of Su-27 and MiG-29 or the more modern aircraft.
    "Today I have a couple of dozen of Su-27, MiG-29. I need these or the more modern aircraft to ensure the inviolability of borders" - Lukashenko said on Friday, commenting on the recent meeting with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.


    He noted that the form of Russian aircraft deliveries to Belarus will be the subject of negotiations with the Russian Federation. "The base is to be, or we will put in the existing parts of the fighter planes, this issue is being discussed," - said the president.

    According to him, Belarus is ready to modernize the Russian aircraft in its factories. He noted that the issue of modernizing the factories of Belarus, including in Baranovichi, has already been discussed. "I said 'yes', we will have to upgrade the aircraft, if you have such a desire. This is a new theme," - said Lukashenko.



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    Another interesting article which reveals that 4 division of S-300 system which Belarus will get in 2014 are from Russian stock.


    Lukashenko: Russian S-300 are designed to ensure the defense of Belarus


    Russia in 2014 will supply to Belarus four divisions missile systems S-300. Thus RF complements the Belarusian air defense of those means which are already in service.


    MINSK, April 26 - RIA Novosti. supply Russian battalions of S-300 is not directed against anyone, said on Friday the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko.

    Earlier it was reported that in 2014 Russia will supply to Belarus four divisions missile systems S-300 . On Tuesday told Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at a meeting with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko.

    "They (Russia) will put us to the C-300. They are there in reserve, are not involved, and we need them. They are not directed against anyone, this is a purely defensive weapon," - said Lukashenko, commenting on the meeting with Shoigu.


    "I am very glad that Russia has finally made a step towards us and put these complexes," - he added. Lukashenka also said that the Russian systems are already in service with the Belarusian army.

    He noted that the issue of supply of these kits was for several years . "That I have asked and demanded for a long time, seven years ago, that we should put these complexes. And finally under the Minister I distinctly said" yes ", we will supply the several battalions of S-300," - said Lukashenko.

    According to him, so Russia complements the Belarusian air defense of those means which are already in service. According to him, the Belarusian air defense today, and so is the most powerful in the west. "She's not only covers the Belarusian border, but also Russia," - said Lukashenko.


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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  Pyrrus on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:50 pm

    in the article it is said that the unit armed with Su-27 has been dissolved and only MiG-29 left as Belorussian fighters: 'После этого в составе 61-й белорусской истребительной авиабазы остались только две эскадрильи, оснащенные истребителями МиГ-29, которые и представляют собой всю истребительную авиацию республики.' (after that only two squadrons remained in 61th Belorussian fighter air base, armed with MiG 29 fighters, which contains all fighters' air force of the republic). Su-27 was being offered for sale.
    What is interesting Su-27 are considered as replacement for older MiG-23 fighters, so if MiG 29 left only there's a gap. Only lack of funds can explain this decision.

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    Re: Belarus Air Force and Air Defence Forces

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:55 am

    What is interesting Su-27 are considered as replacement for older MiG-23 fighters, so if MiG 29 left only there's a gap. Only lack of funds can explain this decision.

    Not surprising... the Mig-23 had very good flight range and was used as a longer ranged interceptor with the Mig-21 operating in the shorter range mode.

    In many ways the Su-27 replaced the Mig-23 and the Mig-29 replaced the Mig-21, though the Mig-23 had excellent acceleration that allowed it to perform the roles the Mig-29 was designed for too.


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