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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:56 pm

    TheArmenian wrote: The 22160 will certainly accommodate more systems and armament than Visby, we have no disagreement on that, but do not try to make a Steregushy out of it.

    My point was eh well you already said this above Smile


    GarryB wrote:
    Ka-226T seem to be a good match for this job both mass and size much smaller than Ka-29/31 and still can do the job.

    Very true and for some observation missions they were developing unmanned helos that could also be ship based to offer useful support for vessels small and large.

    Drones are definitely good but IMHO for patrol ship you need to be able also to take humans (inspection crew or SAR missions).

    Maybe with added corvette modules 22160 can have both drones and Ka-226T?



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    The main point is that with the radars and IR optronic sensors on even a small patrol boat we are not talking about a man standing out in the open looking for potential targets with just his eyes... the igla system will get early warning and the aiming system will be cued to the target.

    A 57mm or 76.2mm gun would also be very useful against subsonic anti ship missiles and aircraft.

    Is warhead of Verba/Igla not too small to knock down ASchM? Rocket will hit but ASchM can continuh its flight...
    BTW for Russian navy apparently artillery will be AK-176 but in stealthy looking turret, any news regarding new version? or no modernization no new ammo juat turres shape?

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:11 am


    Drones are definitely good but IMHO for patrol ship you need to be able also to take humans (inspection crew or SAR missions).

    Maybe with added corvette modules 22160 can have both drones and Ka-226T?

    Actually the Ka-225T with Igla missiles or even R-73 missiles fitted would be a good solution to high flying drones and drones of all sorts could be carried... a hand launched drone that "crashes" into a net for recovery could take up no deck space yet offer useful coverage of the sea around the vessel.

    Is warhead of Verba/Igla not too small to knock down ASchM? Rocket will hit but ASchM can continuh its flight...

    A direct impact on a subsonic aircraft should be sufficient... remember the front half will be the radar and warhead while the rear will be largely empty fuel tanks, so a solid detonation should damage flight control surfaces (wings) and body structure to the point of failure. Ideally it will set off the main warhead which is a guaranteed kill, but blowing off a wing and having the incoming threat fall into the sea is just as good.

    remember the Patriot failed against the scuds in desert storm largely because the scuds were falling towards their targets when they were being engaged. Blowing away the wings was not an option because there were no wings to take out. and the problems of engaging a high speed target meant that the warhead of the Patriot tended to detonate too late so it was the rear of the incoming missile that was getting shredded... for an incoming cruise missile that would have been good enough to make it crash short of the target but because the Scuds were already falling losing their rear structure make little difference... they were already falling and after the "interception" continued to do so till they hit their target.

    BTW for Russian navy apparently artillery will be AK-176 but in stealthy looking turret, any news regarding new version? or no modernization no new ammo juat turres shape?

    I rather suspect their work on guided 57mm calibre rounds has led to work on 76.2mm guided shells too... with a much larger shell it would be easier to develop a very capable anti ship cannon shell with guidance allowing one or two shots per kill. In addition to the larger HE capacity and range from the larger calibre it makes the 76.2mm gun more attractive than the smaller lighter 57mm gun for a range of applications.

    I would expect everything on the ship will be designed to be low radar signature and to that end a Gibka and a few Duets will be rather more stealthy than Pantsir.... With a 76.2mm gun firing guided shells I would say protection would be pretty good.

    Equally remember that if the air situation is harsh a couple of TOR-M3 or Pantsir-SM vehicles could be situated on the rear deck in place of those shipping containers with Kalibr.

    I suspect they had to choose between a 57mm front mounted gun and Shtil-1 mounted behind it, or a larger more powerful 76.2mm gun with lots of ammo and nothing behind it in front of the bridge... seems like they have gone for the latter. The 76.2mm gun would offer about a 14-16km range which is plenty for most targets... especially at about 120 rpm.


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:55 am

    GarryB wrote:

    Drones are definitely good but IMHO for patrol ship you need to be able also to take humans (inspection crew or SAR missions).

    Maybe with added corvette modules 22160 can have both drones and Ka-226T?

    Actually the Ka-225T with Igla missiles or even R-73 missiles fitted would be a good solution to high flying drones and drones of all sorts could be carried...  a hand launched drone that "crashes" into a net for recovery could take up no deck space yet offer useful coverage of the sea around the vessel.


    BTW Ka-226T has a modular construction - frame + container. You can change modules inside helo for depending on assignment



    GarryB wrote:
    Equally remember that if the air situation is harsh a couple of TOR-M3 or Pantsir-SM vehicles could be situated on the rear deck in place of those shipping containers with Kalibr.


    But IMHO Pantsir-M is better solution - Pantsir can down practically any drone now being used by US (ceiling up to 15km)




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    BTW for Russian navy apparently artillery will be AK-176 but in stealthy looking turret, any news regarding new version? or no modernization no new ammo juat turres shape?

    I suspect they had to choose between a 57mm front mounted gun and Shtil-1 mounted behind it, or a larger more powerful 76.2mm gun with lots of ammo and nothing behind it in front of the bridge... seems like they have gone for the latter. The 76.2mm gun would offer about a 14-16km range which is plenty for most targets... especially at about 120 rpm.

    I am not sure if choice is obvious for small ships. A-220M is half of weight (6000kg vs 13000kg) , has 2,5 better rate of fire (300 vs 120), 2x more ammo carried (400 vs 152) and higher vertical range - 8000m vs 7000m

    Unless 76mm is reworked IMHO small ships are better off using 57mm artillery.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%9A-176
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90-220%D0%9C



    BTW on Burevestnik´s website there are examples of ships where it can be sued. interesting is project 22500 - 950t displacement is this a look of future 22800 corvette? would be nice



    here is a big picture Smile


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:28 am


    BTW Ka-226T has a modular construction - frame + container. You can change modules inside helo for depending on assignment

    Would be interesting to see an air to air version with a rear compartment that was tiny and largely consists of a fuel tank to the rear of the front crew cabin with wings carrying one R-73 and a quad pack of Iglas in the air to air role and perhaps on the outer pylon maybe a 23mm gun pod.. that would cover pretty much any or all targets with the two R-73s for dangerous targets out to extended range, while the Iglas could deal with MPA or rotary wing or drone type targets and of course the cannon pods could be used for warning shots and scaring away targets you don't want to shoot down.

    Perhaps for special missions R-27T and R-27ET long range IR guided missiles might be an option too.


    But IMHO Pantsir-M is better solution - Pantsir can down practically any drone now being used by US (ceiling up to 15km)

    If this vessel is operating on its own then it will be dealing with smugglers and illegal fishing... if an unidentified aircraft approaches then it would not be allowed to just shoot it down... it would be obliged to send up the helo to identify the target before engaging... that way it wont be shooting down Russian drones occidentally.

    If the helo identifies it as hostile then it can shoot it down.


    I am not sure if choice is obvious for small ships. A-220M is half of weight (6000kg vs 13000kg) , has 2,5 better rate of fire (300 vs 120), 2x more ammo carried (400 vs 152) and higher vertical range - 8000m vs 7000m

    Weight is rarely an issue on ships... internal volume is more of a problem.

    Equally the old 57mm ammo has a range of 9.5km while the old 76.2mm ammo has a range of 16.5km and is rather heavier. I suspect if the range of the 57mm ammo has been increased then the same could be done with the 76.2mm rounds, while the larger shell capacity would offer guided shells with a heavier HE payload over greater distances.

    BTW on Burevestnik´s website there are examples of ships where it can be sued. interesting is project 22500 - 950t displacement is this a look of future 22800 corvette? would be nice

    The russians have a tradition of putting bigger guns on their vessels... Corvettes that would normally have a 76.2mm gun on it in the west are fitted with compact 100mm guns in Russia.

    I am sure they will give careful consideration to all options and make a good choice... either way.


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:42 pm

    [quote="GarryB"]

    BTW Ka-226T has a modular construction - frame + container. You can change modules inside helo for depending on assignment

    Would be interesting to see an air to air version with a rear compartment that was tiny and largely consists of a fuel tank to the rear of the front crew cabin with wings carrying one R-73 and a quad pack of Iglas in the air to air role and perhaps on the outer pylon maybe a 23mm gun pod.. that would cover pretty much any or all targets with the two R-73s for dangerous targets out to extended range, while the Iglas could deal with MPA or rotary wing or drone type targets and of course the cannon pods could be used for warning shots and scaring away targets you don't want to shoot down.

    Perhaps for special missions R-27T and R-27ET long range IR guided missiles might be an option too.

    [quote]

    Hmm but using small helo for air2air combat? I am not sure maybe for drone self defence but in case of Pantsir -M not really needed IMHO

    6 Ka-226 already ordered but this batch for 22460
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1577858.html?page=1

    This is what i meant about modular construction Smile





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    But IMHO Pantsir-M is better solution - Pantsir can down practically any drone now being used by US (ceiling up to 15km)

    If this vessel is operating on its own then it will be dealing with smugglers and illegal fishing... if an unidentified aircraft approaches then it would not be allowed to just shoot it down... it would be obliged to send up the helo to identify the target before engaging... that way it wont be shooting down Russian drones occidentally.

    If the helo identifies it as hostile then it can shoot it down.

    [quote]

    I meant corvette version. For patrol Gibka is just fine.


    GarryB wrote:

    I am not sure if choice is obvious for small ships. A-220M is half of weight (6000kg vs 13000kg) , has 2,5 better rate of fire (300 vs 120), 2x more ammo carried (400 vs 152) and higher vertical range - 8000m vs 7000m

    Weight is rarely an issue on ships... internal volume is more of a problem.

    Equally the old 57mm ammo has a range of 9.5km while the old 76.2mm ammo has a range of 16.5km and is rather heavier. I suspect if the range of the 57mm ammo has been increased then the same could be done with the 76.2mm rounds, while the larger shell capacity would offer guided shells with a heavier HE payload over greater distances.

    BTW on Burevestnik´s website there are examples of ships where it can be sued. interesting is project 22500 - 950t displacement is this a look of future 22800 corvette? would be nice

    The russians have a tradition of putting bigger guns on their vessels... Corvettes that would normally have a 76.2mm gun on it in the west are fitted with compact 100mm guns in Russia.

    I am sure they will give careful consideration to all options and make a good choice... either way.


    Well on ship od 1000t class additional 15t freed by guns and helo means more autonomy or more Kalibr containers Smile


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:13 pm

    Gunship,

    The model of the ship you posted earlier is unlikely to be built.

    First of all it is an old concept that I have seen many years ago. It is a version of the Buyan-M corvettes and has similar displacement (950 T).

    Furthermore, do not expect Naval Pantsir systems on stealthy ships. It will ruin the low RCS of the ships. Makes no sense.

    And finally, the project 22800 is the one chosen to fill that niche.

    Having said that, there will be a follow on to the Buyan series. I don't think the Russian MoD or designers are currently interested in revealing it (just like the pr.22800)


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:19 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Gunship,

    The model of the ship you posted earlier is unlikely to be built.

    First of all it is an old concept that I have seen many years ago. It is a version of the Buyan-M corvettes and has similar displacement (950 T).

    Furthermore, do not expect Naval Pantsir systems on stealthy ships. It will ruin the low RCS of the ships. Makes no sense.

    And finally, the project 22800 is the one chosen to fill that niche.

    Having said that, there will be a follow on to the Buyan series. I don't think the Russian MoD or designers are currently interested in revealing it (just like the pr.22800)


    Iwas guessing about that this might be kinda look of 22800? Much stealthier then 12300 everybody was talking abotu as basis. WRT Pantisr-M sure is not stealthiest but IMHO this might depend on assignment - in case of working alone of escorting ships AD wiht 15km of ceiling is good to kill carrier of weapons not bomb or missile. anyway pozhyviom uvidim Smile

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:49 am

    Hmm but using small helo for air2air combat? I am not sure maybe for drone self defence but in case of Pantsir -M not really needed IMHO

    A pod with wings that have R-73s, quad packs of Iglas, and gun pods would be useful for an air patrol version of the aircraft... it would basically just be a wing and perhaps extra fuel tank for the pod so it would not be that heavy and should have good speed and range and reasonable altitude performance.

    Replace the R-73s with 7 shot 80mm rocket pods designed for light aircraft with that new laser aiming system they have developed for adding laser guidance to unguided weapons systems and you would have a useful little gunship.

    Remember this is a patrol ship so it would be dealing with illegal fishing and smuggling and drug runners on all sorts of platforms.

    This is what i meant about modular construction

    I am familiar with the aircraft.... Smile

    I remember calling it Thunderbird 2...

    Well on ship od 1000t class additional 15t freed by guns and helo means more autonomy or more Kalibr containers

    For a long range patrol/operations it is just as likely the extra 15 tons saved would just be used for more ammo... but the main issue would be that having a lighter gun sometimes means having to use more ammo to get the same effect they would have with a heavier weapon. As NATO found in Afghanistan having twice as much smaller calibre ammo can lead to the enemy changing tactics to render the lighter ammo ineffective by attacking from greater distances... or using larger calibre weapons to get a range advantage.

    Of course for many missions it might not matter at all...

    Furthermore, do not expect Naval Pantsir systems on stealthy ships. It will ruin the low RCS of the ships. Makes no sense.

    I remember they mentioned that there were two versions of the new Pantsirs they were working on... one for upgraded existing types that was not very stealthy and another system perhaps more modular and stealthy.

    in case of working alone of escorting ships AD wiht 15km of ceiling is good to kill carrier of weapons not bomb or missile. anyway pozhyviom uvidim

    Also the range of 20-40km in the later models is very attractive for very small boats to defend themselves from helos and light aircraft... (means instead of just shooting down missiles they can take down aircraft before they launch... which is much more efficient...)


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:12 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Hmm but using small helo for air2air combat? I am not sure maybe for drone self defence but in case of Pantsir -M not really needed IMHO

    A pod with wings that have R-73s, quad packs of Iglas, and gun pods would be useful for an air patrol version of the aircraft... it would basically just be a wing and perhaps extra fuel tank for the pod so it would not be that heavy and should have good speed and range and reasonable altitude performance.

    Replace the R-73s with 7 shot 80mm rocket pods designed for light aircraft with that new laser aiming system they have developed for adding laser guidance to unguided weapons systems and you would have a useful little gunship.

    Talking about gunship drones for stopping smugglers, just guns no missile pads effective though Smile




    GarryB wrote:
    I am familiar with the aircraft....  Smile I remember calling it Thunderbird 2...


    naaaah won´t fit on 22160 Razz

    GarryB wrote:
    Well on ship od 1000t class additional 15t freed by guns and helo means more autonomy or more Kalibr containers

    For a long range patrol/operations it is just as likely the extra 15 tons saved would just be used for more ammo... but the main issue would be that having a lighter gun sometimes means having to use more ammo to get the same effect they would have with a heavier weapon. As NATO found in Afghanistan having twice as much smaller calibre ammo can lead to the enemy changing tactics to render the lighter ammo ineffective by attacking from greater distances... or using larger calibre weapons to get a range advantage.

    Of course for many missions it might not matter at all...


    Indeed, my assumption was that gun is not the main weapon not even for shelling bunkers on shore. For long range attack 8 (or 16 if 4x4containers installed) Calibrs. Gun here I see as AAD or CIWS role, or pirate surprise. AADd -higher verticala range than 76mm and 2,5 higher fire rate shall do the job.

    In role of CIWS - high rate of fire is better, caliber 57mm too small? Germans lately build system based on 35mm Oerlikon guns to protect militaru camps/installations against artillery or mortar missiles ! so 57mm should deal with this as well. Of course I can be wrong and you right (in such case I will never admit it Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil )




    Furthermore, do not expect Naval Pantsir systems on stealthy ships. It will ruin the low RCS of the ships. Makes no sense.

    I remember they mentioned that there were two versions of the new Pantsirs they were working on... one for upgraded existing types that was not very stealthy and another system perhaps more modular and stealthy.

    in case of working alone of escorting ships AD wiht 15km of ceiling is good to kill carrier of weapons not bomb or missile. anyway pozhyviom uvidim

    Also the range of 20-40km in the later models is very attractive for very small boats to defend themselves from helos and light aircraft... (means instead of just shooting down missiles they can take down aircraft before they launch... which is much more efficient...)[/quote]

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:24 pm


    Indeed, my assumption was that gun is not the main weapon not even for shelling bunkers on shore. For long range attack 8 (or 16 if 4x4containers installed) Calibrs. Gun here I see as AAD or CIWS role, or pirate surprise. AADd -higher verticala range than 76mm and 2,5 higher fire rate shall do the job.

    Kalibrs are useful against countries, but in the normal routine patrol mission they are not much use... you can't get a ships captain to stop their vessel punching 400kgs of HE into its side at a million dollars a shot.

    A 76.2mm gun however can be fired into the sea in front of a ship to tell that ships captain you mean business without murdering any of his crew or sinking his ship.

    Of course if you want to do serious damage you still can... a few 6kg HE shells into his bridge will stop any ship.

    In role of CIWS - high rate of fire is better, caliber 57mm too small? Germans lately build system based on 35mm Oerlikon guns to protect militaru camps/installations against artillery or mortar missiles ! so 57mm should deal with this as well. Of course I can be wrong and you right

    Yes and no. the smaller calibre allows a very high rate of fire in a short burst so if the target turns or slows down or speeds up in the seconds between your gun firing and impact then the spread of shells means you still will likely get a hit. With heavier rounds like the 57mm guns the advantage there is guided shells so if the target turns or changes speed the round fired can manouver and compensate for that and still have a good chance of a hit/kill.

    Instead of firing a 200 round burst as with Kashtan... you can get away with firing one or two rounds of 57mm shells that are guided and still have a very good probability of a hit... 57mm shells are huge but take up less space than 200 30mm cannon shells.

    the thing is that a larger shell like a 76.2mm round can also be guided but will have more punch with a heavier round and greater range and altitude.

    Against some larger targets the heavier shells will also be more effective.

    to give you an example in Afghanistan in the 1980s the soviets found when the muj built rock piles in the mouth of caves that their rifle fire could not penetrate. 30mm grenades however blew the rock walls down and scattered the rock fragments around like extra shrapnel. the HE power of the 30mm grenades was rather more effective than smaller calibre lighter rounds.

    Of course I can be wrong and you right

    Just a discussion... there is no right and wrong... just opinion... which can change with new information.  Smile

    The very high acceleration of the Pantsir range missiles means it really needs to be in an external turret that can be pointed at the target before the main booster fires.

    the only other option would be vertical launch where the missile is blasted up into the air and gas generators (side thruster rockets) roll the missile to point in the direction of the target before the main booster rapidly accelerates the missile away.

    If you do that then the gun component of the system could be a few Duet mounts and the radar and EO systems incorporated into the existing ship systems. The advantage of vertical launch is that you could also carry Morfei missiles with IIR seekers and lock on after launch capability for fire and forget capability against very short range targets along with several twin barrel gatlings.

    Of course with Morfei you could replace the 30mm gatlings which are primarily for very close in self defence and use a larger calibre gun that would be useful for a range of other tasks that 30mm is not so useful for.


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  ult on Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:40 am

    Dmitriy Rogachev. (2nd ship)



    From the interview with Director General of Zelenodolsk Plant - the first 6 22160 corvettes are contracted. First one will be delivered in 2017, 2 in 2018, 2 in 2019 and 1 in 2020. They will have Kolomna engines and Zvezda reduction gears. There are talks about signing a contract for additional 6 of the ice class.

    http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/147574/

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    Post  ult on Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:50 pm

    First two ships.



    https://youtu.be/zCNU3XImTOs?t=26m2s

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:09 am

    i found out that this project is the one intended as "anti-piracy" ship. Thats why the basic version will have no missiles and also will be stationed in BSF

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150530/1022745984.html#ixzz3bcWPfsYU

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  wilhelm on Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:30 am

    Below deck hangar?
    I note the MTU diesels are still listed, which I think are no longer being considered?

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:05 am

    wilhelm wrote:Below deck hangar?

    I think it would have a partially telescopic, above-deck hanger.

    The hatches for below-deck access are for 2 X 4 containerized launchers for the Kalibr-NK missile systems.

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    Post  wilhelm on Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:27 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    wilhelm wrote:Below deck hangar?

    I think it would have a partially telescopic, above-deck hanger.

    The hatches for below-deck access are for 2 X 4 containerized launchers for the Kalibr-NK missile systems.

    Thanks...that makes more sense on a vessel of this size.

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    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:12 pm

    Russia to Lay Down Third Project 22160 Patrol Ship on Thursday - Navy

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160215/1034798788/navy-ship-project.html#ixzz40Fn7t7Ty


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:26 am

    Laid third patrol vessel project 22160

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1748163.html

    Some points on these ships from the article:

    1. Firstly, in the Russian Navy still had no specialized patrol boats.
    2. Secondly, the project is 22160 - the first Russian ship created a modular design: it will be possible to change the equipment and weapons, depending on the task ahead. The ship is designed to protect territorial waters, economic zone, patrol in open and closed seas, combat smuggling and piracy, search and assistance to victims of maritime accidents, for environmental monitoring, protection of ships and vessels, naval bases and water areas.
    3. 22160 Expected characteristics are:
    Displacement - 1300 t,
    Autonomy - 60 days,
    Speed - up to 30 knots,
    Crew - 80 people.
    Base for helicopter.
    Basic armament artillery, anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons.
    Main dimensions: 94 × 14 × 3,4 meters.
    4. It is believed that the project 22160 ships will be able to perform tasks at any point in the world's oceans. However, experts say they kind of representative status: to deliver a powerful blow or fend off a serious enemy they can not, but will show the flag and "replace" in peace-time operations (for example, anti-piracy), a powerful and well-armed ships, which will be followed by saving resource.
    5. Navy Commander Viktor Chirkov said - "The ship is not very big, but in theory he has great endurance and good sea-keeping. This patrol vessel to indicate our presence in all parts of the world and to fight against piracy. That will result in the construction of the series, we have yet to see."
    6. The Zelenodolsk planned to build 12 ships of Project 22160. The first six, most likely, will go to the Black Sea Fleet, but it will serve and in the Mediterranean Sea. First couple of 22160 will pass to the Navy in 2017, two more - in 2018, two - in 2019 and one - in 2020.
    7, Speaking of export prospects, the ship is already strong advertised at all kinds of naval stores.


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  max steel on Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:38 pm

    George1 wrote:

    these ones carry UKSK and have a very respectable air defense) and this clearly indicates that Russia is building here Navy "from the shore" thus indicating a very defensive posture.

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  max steel on Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:49 pm

    Russian Navy Set to Receive 6 Advanced Patrol Ships by 2019


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun May 08, 2016 1:11 pm

    4th unit of the class has been laid down.

    Name is SERGEY KOTOV

    http://www.tatar-inform.ru/news/2016/05/08/502882/

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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  George1 on Sun May 08, 2016 11:56 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:4th unit of the class has been laid down.

    Name is SERGEY KOTOV

    http://www.tatar-inform.ru/news/2016/05/08/502882/

    Yes.



    and here are the specifications:



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1890864.html


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

    Post  Austin on Mon May 09, 2016 12:21 pm

    Laid patrol ship "Sergei Kotov" the fourth Russian Navy patrol boat project 22160

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1890864.html


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    Re: Prοject 22160 - Offshore Patrol Vessel

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