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    Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:29 am

    Putin will ditch his Mercedes-Benz for this home made limousine.

    Watch video: http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/218622

    During Soviet times, ZIL limousines were used by top officials. Production stopped in the wake of the Soviet collapse.
    ZIL still makes truck and was on the verge of bankruptcy, but new cash was injected recently and the company is being rejuvenated. New truck models as well as the above new limousine are the latest in the pipeline.
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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:27 am




    Putin's ZIL-4112P with a 7.7 litre engine and six-speed automatic transmission

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    Post  Firebird on Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:27 pm

    Sujoy wrote:


    Putin's ZIL-4112P with a 7.7 litre engine and six-speed automatic transmission

    I quite liked the back and profile of that concept idea. Personally, I'd have gone for a sleeker front end, to make it a bit more like the Aston Martin Lagonda of the 1980s.

    Its good to see Zil back producing again. It didn't seem right to use just Mercs.

    Does anyone know how the new Zil was built? Was everything in-house, or was a lot in partnership with other companies from abroad?

    Alot of people are tipping the Russian car industry to flourish with Russia entering the WTO.
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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:23 pm

    Actually it is Dark Blue .

    It was designed in Russia at the ZIL Limousine Production and the project was headed by Mikhail Sattarov.

    ZIL has signed a deal with Korean automaker Hyundai to begin production at its Moscow plant.Bolt-together assembly is slated to start in the first quarter of 2013, while full-cycle production will commence by 2015.

    Putin has ordered government departments to seek appropriate domestic alternatives to the mostly German foreign brands that are used in Russia.

    The project for a domestically-made limousine, dubbed 'Monolith,' features a Russian-made 400-horsepower engine, together with a US-made transmission.

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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  TR1 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:20 am

    Google the name to see what it really looks like.


    Good old Zil, in the 21st century.

    Russian car industry still sucks, what else is new.
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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:25 am

    At least this is a step forward... they are not going to get any better if all the Russian politicians keep buying German cars.


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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:57 am

    He made the right choice by going domestic, especially since he's been promoting the domestic industry. I always thought driving around in foreign cars was setting the wrong example.

    The external retro look is done apparently on purpose.

    Retro Putin driven to revive Soviet limousine
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/retro-putin-driven-to-revive-soviet-limousine/story-e6frg6so-1226507810808
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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  TR1 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:27 pm

    It's not a retro look- the car IS retro.

    The body and chassis are barely modified from ancient Zil.

    http://www.max-models.ru/data/ZIL_raika/ZIL-4112R_Max-Models.jpg

    Those lights look tacky and retarded. They belong on a pimped-out ricer, not a state car.

    The car in the 3d render looks like a dream compared to this boat.
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:32 pm

    TR1 wrote:Google the name to see what it really looks like.


    Good old Zil, in the 21st century.

    Russian car industry still sucks, what else is new.

    Yeah judging by the renders I thought that it was really going to be something that would take things to the next level

    Instead it's

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    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:50 am

    Is it the same model they use during the Victory day parade?

    From what I gather, it's the same externally with a upgraded interior

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    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:05 pm

    Sujoy wrote:


    Putin's ZIL-4112P with a 7.7 litre engine and six-speed automatic transmission

    Wooooo .....I like the retro looks of ZIL attack cheers

    Thank You Putin for choosing a Russian car even if they may not be the best presidential car but atleast that would be zillion time better than riding on Mercedes.

    You make Russia proud russia

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    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:08 pm

    This one is it or they build a new one ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C2NsR9ebiw
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    Post  TR1 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:13 pm

    IT's the one in the video.

    Basically a modernized good old Zil.
    Nothing as impressive as the render.

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    Post  Austin on Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:23 am

    TR1 i doubt its the same it would be prototype , the car shown certainly lack bullet proof armour and glass .....likely they would build a few of such cars for Putin and Medvedev and they are just building protoype now.

    Presidential cars will never be exposed to media due to security reasons
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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:52 am

    Austin wrote:This one is it or they build a new one ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C2NsR9ebiw

    You da man Austin Smile Thanks for sharing. I also like it and as I wrote before it's fitting that the president rides in a domestic car.

    In the video it says that apparently, some Arab sheiks are expressing interest in the Zil...
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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  Sujoy on Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:13 pm

    Prospective New Car for Russian VIPs

    07 Lada 21014 designed in Kaluga



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    Re: Putin's New Ride: The New ZIL-4112P

    Post  Austin on Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:20 pm

    Looks Stylish but i will take the retro look Putin's ZIL Laughing
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    Post  TR1 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:52 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Prospective New Car for Russian VIPs

    07 Lada 21014 designed in Kaluga



    That is the ugliest POS I have ever seen.

    Looks like pimped out Lada's I see driven by 20 something year olds.

    http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/11/14/how_to_turn_a_used_russian_car_into_a_work_of_art_20079.html



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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:56 am

    Sujoy wrote:Prospective New Car for Russian VIPs

    07 Lada 21014 designed in Kaluga

    Looks good...but are you saying they're gonna ride in pimped out Lada's ?

    BTW, I didn't realise pimped out cars was so popular in Russia.

    Back in the 1980's when we lived overseas for a few years, my old man bought a brand new Lada 2105 (his pride and joy). It was a boxy looking thing made out of solid metal panels and pretty reliable...it worked well even in -20 deg C. Soon after getting my driver's licence, me and a couple of mates took the Lada for a spin. I was fuking around too much and lost control of the car, flew over a ditch at close to 100km/h and smashed hard into a stone fence. The car was mangled pretty badly but none of us had any injuries. The local panel beater fixed it up for us for a discount price and thus saved me from getting killed by my old man Very Happy....anyway the point is, I doubt I would have survived a similar crash in one of these modern plastic wonders

    The Lada 2105 in all it's glory Cool (our one was white though)



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    Post  TR1 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:12 am

    Really?

    You think those Lada's would pass any modern safety test?
    The damage that a modern car would take would cost thousands more, but that's the price of safety.

    In fact there are videos of Russian Top Gear or some other show testing Ladas for safety on dumies, the results are scary.
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    Post  Sujoy on Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:49 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Looks good...but are you saying they're gonna ride in pimped out Lada's ?

    You might not see them in Moscow or St.Petersburg but in other smaller urban centers there is a possibility . The Kremlin hasn't officially sanctioned the purchase of these cars but from what I hear from Rossiya Gazzeta's India office is that local politicians are being encouraged to embrace Russian models. A number of local "car clubs" in Russia are therefore presenting their ideas .

    Cyberspec wrote:BTW, I didn't realise pimped out cars was so popular in Russia.
    I would imagine as much since cars in Russia are about status, personality and self-expression. I do hope however that the Russian automobile industry can make a comeback . Here in India , foreign cars used to be popular but these days Indian cars are equally popular .

    BTW - Good video . Appreciate you sharing it .

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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:45 am

    TR1 wrote:In fact there are videos of Top Gear

    I'm telling you what I experienced personally. Judging by your comments, I was going to ask you whether your a fan of 'Top Gear'....now I know.


    I still drive a 1987 Holden VL and although I've come close to changing to a newer car I've always changed my mind. It's done over 600 000 km (don't know exact figure since the gauge doesn't work properly) and it's still going. Show me a new car that will last that long and I'll trade in my VL. Obviously it's showing it's age now but I just change the parts that stop working and keep going. One of the main benefits is that most speeding cameras can't get me. The tow bar covers one of the letters because the rego plate is low. The newer cars have the rego plates higher up to avoid this loophole..
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    Post  Viktor on Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:12 am




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    Post  Regular on Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:29 pm

    Yeah.. More square shaped Volga is strong in fleshed out concept. It's like they spat in the face to everyone that believed it will be modern classic. They should buy license from MB or any other well developed brand. I don't see problem by buying couple foreign cars too. I doubt that few orders from president will change sad state of cars in Russia.  To expect something good is like expect Stephen Hawkins to pass maroon beret trial.
    No offense to Russians, but Your all You civilian autoprom should be sent to gulags for re-education. You have countless car designers and engineers working for foreign companies, You have people who have golden hands, why they have to leave to fulfil their talents?

    When Russia will start making cars in price range from 50000 to 80000 euros, then I would expect decent limousine version. And yeah I know that there loads of Russians(Kalingrad rulit I razrulit) who pay even more for those cars and even take to Lithuania to get polyvinyl body covers and custom interiors. Market for luxury cars in Russia is massive, domestic manufacturers are ignoring gold mine.

    People buy Kalinas and other "triperoids" then most likely they will not have money to go to service and rather go to Petya Fedya Vasya to their garages or just use duck tape to fix their cars. Plus they exploit their cars for long time and that doesn't help as demand in the market will be exhausted eventually.
    People who are more successful in their beautiful country and don't moan how life is bad under Putin and how hard is without communism helping hand usually splash money on new cars and other things.
    It's not mafia who owns money anymore, I know loads of Muscovites who earn almost same amount of money like they would in UK or elsewhere in EU. Opportunities are there, if people live bad it's their fault not NATO or Putin's Very Happy
    Middle class usually don't care much about fuel consumption, high RPMs, they are going to service, they spend fortune on simple luxuries and they upgrade to new cars in very short time. They are the fuel for internal consumption engine:)
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    Post  collegeboy16 on Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:09 pm

    Thing looks like its not made by artist. I meancome on, this doesnt look anything like other decently elegant limos. If they really cant they should consult with others who know.

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