Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Share

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9451
    Points : 9943
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:25 pm

    The Alawite State, also known in French as Alaouites, after the locally dominant Alawite sect of Shi'a, was a French mandate territory in the coastal area of present-day Syria after World War I.

    The French Mandate from the League of Nations lasted from 1920 until 1946.

    Use of the term 'Alawite' instead of 'Nusayri' was advocated by the French early in the Mandate period, and referred to a member of the Alawi religious sect. It came to be the name of the region the French named the "Alawite Territory" in 1920, home to a large population of Alawi Muslims.
    The region was both coastal and mountainous, and home to a majorly rural, highly heterogeneous population. During the French Mandate period, society was divided by religion and geography: the landowning families of the port city of Latakia, and 80% of the population of the city, were Sunni Muslim. However, more than 90% of the population of the province was rural, 62% being Alawite peasantry.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawite_State


    Last edited by George1 on Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:48 pm; edited 1 time in total

    GarryB
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 15482
    Points : 16189
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:21 am

    It is mostly Sunni muslims that are fighting and most of their international support comes from Saudi Arabia... don't expect any real sort of democracy if they win.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9451
    Points : 9943
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:16 pm

    Alawi state is established in Syria

    7.07.2012 08:33
    Event of a fall of Damascus, the Syrian leader Assad's government will establish an Alawi claimed that the Mediterranean coast.

    This stunning gazetesindeydi Vatan claimed.

    Former Syrian vice president Abdul Halim Haddam'ın " Assad missiles and strategic weapons is shifting to this area.
    Definitive establishment of a new state here " page, the words took shape.
    Assad KNOWN TO VERY GOOD IDEA TO KNOW Syria ' and the massacre of nearly 200 people in clashes at the weekend to reach the capital, Damascus, President Bashar Assad while increasing question marks about the future of the country has been exposed to rumors of split.

    In case of fall of Damascus, Assad administration Ansaria to the mountains of the coast extending from the Mediterranean, which included the cities of Latakia and Tartus, a region predominantly Alevi Alevi claims before the state had started to be established.

    However, his father and predecessor, Hafez Assad, Bashar al-Assad who as vice president for 21 years, he died, which is also President Bashar al-Assad Abdul-Halim Haddam until the appointment of proxy threw a new claim.

    IN 2005 was exiled to Bashar Assad to Paris from exile in 2005 after opening Haddam, told Spain's El Pais newspaper, " Damascus missiles and strategic weapons, as recounted in this region " claimed.
    "

    The near future, the establishment of Alevi final state" said Haddam, tanks and heavy machine guns to fight the rebels in the regime of the 'now' suggested that this region bears.

    Alevis Gathering American intelligence sources out of warehouses to chemical weapons in the hands of the administration last week, Assad suggested as recounted in an unknown region.

    The purpose of this move is not clear, " Assad or prepared to use chemical weapons against the rebels, or by these weapons to an area more secure " was already expressed in probabilities.
    MAJORITY OF FLAME militia Kocaeli Ignace Leverrier French diplomat who worked in a period in Damascus " are putting pressure on the Assad family's name and in the community division involving Alevis constitute murder.
    The military, intelligence and Assad militia 'şabiha'ların Alevi majority.
    Most of them were Sunni.
    Many Alevis lawyer, dentist, staff began to lose customers.
    Turning to the southwest regions of the country " said.

    This is plausible arguments defending the United States, Middle East Quarterly, published in the magazine's editor Gary Gambill, " I do not think al-Assad in Damascus to fight to the bitter end for.

    Flame understands the day to Damascus will not save.

    How much blood there is in the hands of al-Assad assured him they're given, and after a change in regime in Syria live in peace, " he said.

    BOTTOM NOTE: The 22 million inhabitants, 10 percent of the Alawites in Syria is public .
    In 75 percent of Sunnis.
    However, the rule of the Alevis have management positions.

    http://www.habermonitor.com/en/haber/detay/alawi-state-is-established-in-syria/201655/

    Snow Leopard
    Private
    Private

    Posts : 4
    Points : 8
    Join date : 2012-10-16
    Age : 46
    Location : Peshawar, Pakistan

    Syrian Reconciliation

    Post  Snow Leopard on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:13 pm

    Former Syrian regimes have not been proved stronger and honourable. I think Russia needs not cling to Bashar al Assad and make some approach to the opposition also. The tide reveals that B.A.Asad will leave one day and the country will fell to western interests who are in haste to aid Syria.

    GarryB
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 15482
    Points : 16189
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:00 am

    The opposition seem to be unorganised rabble, that will not likely form a real government and the resulting chaos will only be good for orgs like Al Quada.

    This is not a rebellion against Assad, it is an attempted Sunni take over that will result in something like the Taleban in charge eventually.

    This would be bad for Syria and the Syrian people and Russia should not support this no matter how much the west would like them to.

    The west doesn't care about Syria, just like it really doesn't care about Libya.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

    TR1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5840
    Points : 5892
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  TR1 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:34 am

    Sure seems like it started as a rebellion against Assad....it was after all the government crackdown of protests that led to the whole mess.
    Now both sides have blood on their hands, and the end does not seem close.

    GarryB
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 15482
    Points : 16189
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:51 am

    Assad hasn't done anything the government of Bahrain hasn't done.

    The difference is how it is shown in western media.

    Just because you get some riots and protesting is not a sign that there should be regime change via the UN... otherwise the UK would have needed some regime change medicine itself a few months ago... but people seem to forget that already.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

    Snow Leopard
    Private
    Private

    Posts : 4
    Points : 8
    Join date : 2012-10-16
    Age : 46
    Location : Peshawar, Pakistan

    However

    Post  Snow Leopard on Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:01 am

    Egyptians and Syrians are Arabised Non-Arab races. Syrians are a formidable race in Asia. The real power of Syria is the Sunni mass. Shiites have never been successful in Islamic history. Their scope of vision has been always more narrow.

    Draco
    Private
    Private

    Posts : 8
    Points : 10
    Join date : 2012-10-12
    Location : Southwestern USA

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Draco on Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:49 am

    Many people oppose balkanization, in nearly all cases, however, after the al Assad regime loses control of the country, what other outcome can there be, but partition of Syria into a majority Sunni and minority Alawite states? There's too much mutual hatred, for the two sides to ever be able to live together again.
    I won't be sorry to see al Assad go. His regime has never been a friend to my country. But I don't want to see the Alawite people massacred after he falls, either. Former regime figures suspected of having commited war crimes should be arrested and tried fairly, but no one deserves to die merely for being a member of the Alawite sect, or for having supported the previous government.
    I believe the creation of a Latakia statelet will be the only way to safeguard the Alawites from vengeful Sunni elements.

    GarryB
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 15482
    Points : 16189
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:29 am

    The huge irony is that the Assad regime was a moderate regime made up of the shia minority that protected the rights of all minorities.

    When they fall there will be chaos because every group will have their own wants and needs... I am sure Turkey will be overjoyed when the Kurds in Syria decide to make a Kurdish state and start calling on Iranian and Turkish and northern Iraqi kurds to join them.

    Americans will say that assad was bad and it will be good to see him go, but after a few months of fighting and chaos if his regime does fall will make it pretty clear to the people of Syria that they didn't realise how good they had things and they will never be able to get them back that way because a minority of armed men with outside international support.

    Another Arab country moving towards blind stupid sharia law to become another cloned Saudi state.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

    ricky123
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 223
    Points : 327
    Join date : 2012-08-20

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  ricky123 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:26 am

    GarryB wrote:The huge irony is that the Assad regime was a moderate regime made up of the shia minority that protected the rights of all minorities.

    When they fall there will be chaos because every group will have their own wants and needs... I am sure Turkey will be overjoyed when the Kurds in Syria decide to make a Kurdish state and start calling on Iranian and Turkish and northern Iraqi kurds to join them.

    Americans will say that assad was bad and it will be good to see him go, but after a few months of fighting and chaos if his regime does fall will make it pretty clear to the people of Syria that they didn't realise how good they had things and they will never be able to get them back that way because a minority of armed men with outside international support.

    Another Arab country moving towards blind stupid sharia law to become another cloned Saudi state.
    cant agree with u more Very Happy

    Kysusha
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 221
    Points : 239
    Join date : 2010-09-25
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Kysusha on Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:43 pm

    Draco wrote:.
    I won't be sorry to see al Assad go. His regime has never been a friend to my country.

    Dam, what country has Merika ever been a friend too??! Merika is hated universally for their constant meddling, bullying, killing and doing the Joo’s dirty work.

    Vladimir79
    Grand Marshal
    Grand Marshal

    Posts : 2193
    Points : 3099
    Join date : 2009-07-10

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:01 am

    I don't really think the country is going to be partitioned.


    _________________
    The true value of life knows only the paratrooper. For he is more likely to look death in the eye.  -- Vasily Margelov

    Kysusha
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 221
    Points : 239
    Join date : 2010-09-25
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Kysusha on Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:51 pm

    TR1 wrote:Sure seems like it started as a rebellion against Assad....it was after all the government crackdown of protests that led to the whole mess.


    What crap – you really need to stop watching CNN and PHOX News. All you seem to do is trumpet out the Merikan propaganda line that emanates directly for the best lair in the US Government – that sniper dogging Clinton.

    Little wonder you have a narrow and warped view of events around the world.

    GarryB
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 15482
    Points : 16189
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:38 am

    Egyptians and Syrians are Arabised Non-Arab races. Syrians are a formidable race in Asia. The real power of Syria is the Sunni mass. Shiites have never been successful in Islamic history. Their scope of vision has been always more narrow.

    It seems we disagree on what is meant by success.

    A stable growing economy with good relations with ones neighbours, with peace, education, a functioning health service, and general protection for minority groups including women is what I would call a success in that region.

    Saddam seemed to me to be after power, and it resulted in misery for many of his own countrymen and for many of his neighbours.

    If you believe the western news agencies he became a threat to the whole world which of course he wasn't but his "power" extended well beyond the middle east only politically... in the resulting reaction he stepped on the wrong toes and was specifically targeted for elimination.

    A new Syrian leader that seeks to oppose Iran would be a great friend of the west, but I suspect such a result will end in a restart for the Iranian nuclear weapons program, and much higher tensions in the region.

    The western saying is that a cornered rat has nothing to lose, but in all honesty you corner any animal and they will find they have no choice but to fight... and it is actually easier to fight when no one can sneak up behind you.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

    TR1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5840
    Points : 5892
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  TR1 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:03 am

    Kysusha wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Sure seems like it started as a rebellion against Assad....it was after all the government crackdown of protests that led to the whole mess.


    What crap – you really need to stop watching CNN and PHOX News. All you seem to do is trumpet out the Merikan propaganda line that emanates directly for the best lair in the US Government – that sniper dogging Clinton.

    Little wonder you have a narrow and warped view of events around the world.

    Take that tinfoil hat off and smell the world.


    Assad worship is pathetic; how can one live in such denial that the Assad family is oppressive, bloodthirsty scumbags?

    Assad makes Kadyrov look like a benevolent do-gooder.


    WHile you are at it why don't you go through my posts-just because I am not a rabbid Jew-hater and conspiracy-loving anti-American (Like yourself), does not make a trumpet for US media's interpretation of what is happening.

    I don't usually like to comment on it, but the amount of crap we have on this forum towards the US is obnoxious and drives away potentially good posters.

    Good day.

    TR1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5840
    Points : 5892
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  TR1 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:09 am

    Kysusha wrote:

    Little wonder you have a narrow and warped view of events around the world.


    Coming from the guy with the Stalin avatar, that's rich.

    Let me guess, the "Joos" changed history, Stalin was really a well-meaning guy.
    And a competent war leader.

    LOL

    Kysusha
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 221
    Points : 239
    Join date : 2010-09-25
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Kysusha on Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:22 am

    TR1 wrote:
    Kysusha wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Sure seems like it started as a rebellion against Assad....it was after all the government crackdown of protests that led to the whole mess.


    What crap – you really need to stop watching CNN and PHOX News. All you seem to do is trumpet out the Merikan propaganda line that emanates directly for the best lair in the US Government – that sniper dogging Clinton.

    Little wonder you have a narrow and warped view of events around the world.

    Take that tinfoil hat off and smell the world.


    Assad worship is pathetic; how can one live in such denial that the Assad family is oppressive, bloodthirsty scumbags?

    Assad makes Kadyrov look like a benevolent do-gooder.


    WHile you are at it why don't you go through my posts-just because I am not a rabbid Jew-hater and conspiracy-loving anti-American (Like yourself), does not make a trumpet for US media's interpretation of what is happening.

    I don't usually like to comment on it, but the amount of crap we have on this forum towards the US is obnoxious and drives away potentially good posters.

    Good day.

    The archetypical Yankee rely – too full of Mom, apple pie and Old Glory to distinguish the subtleties between Jew and Joo. Blinded by the nations penchant of one-sided news coverage and Big Macs with Coke.

    There is little point in trying to debate an issue with you as your view is too shallow, too tainted by Merikan dogma, exemplified by you view of Assad and Stalin for starters. If we were to let you continue on your rant, you would also then include Gaddafi in that group along with Ahmadimejad, Milosevic, Ataturk and the countless other that the Merikan media condemn and their readers/listeners blindly accept while failing to realise that the worlds warmongers and war criminals have never been brought to justice – Churchill, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, LBJ, Nixon, Clinton the Bush gang, Obummer, Tony Blair and the megalomaniacs of HATO. [I deliberately left out the Joo terrorists – too many to name, including the current incumbent].

    Forget your Hollywood movies, depicting great events, forget your local news and print media and for goodness sake, throw away your school history books. Do some in-depth reading on historical events – read widely and perhaps you will be able to make up your own mind about events rather than continue to be told what to think.

    For your edification, my Best Man at my wedding was also the best friend I have had [until his untimely death] – he was a Jew. I have no problem with a person who practices a particular religion – simply on the grounds of that religion. So trying to label me as anti-Jew just demonstrates that you either have not read my posts or are incapable of comprehending the message I post.

    Oh, I almost missed the obligatory “Anti American” chant too. I am anti anyone, any country that supports Zionism – that bunch of psychopaths. There are many very good people in Merika – yes I too have Merikan friends, good friends. Generally, home-town Merikans are extremely hospitable, considerate and very open people. The sad part is that many of them actually believe their government’s lies – ALL governments lie! Sadly, it is taking Merikans a long time to wake up to this – the 9/11 home goal is starting to change some views – fortunately.

    How conceited, how arrogant you are to suggest that only people who think like you are “good posters” and are driven away by my posts! If we all thought like you, we would have a hellova worse world than we currently have. You will never learn if you continue to listen to yourself.

    Werewolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5391
    Points : 5640
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:40 pm

    Kysusha wrote:

    The archetypical Yankee rely – too full of Mom, apple pie and Old Glory to distinguish the subtleties between Jew and Joo. Blinded by the nations penchant of one-sided news coverage and Big Macs with Coke.

    There is little point in trying to debate an issue with you as your view is too shallow, too tainted by Merikan dogma, exemplified by you view of Assad and Stalin for starters. If we were to let you continue on your rant, you would also then include Gaddafi in that group along with Ahmadimejad, Milosevic, Ataturk and the countless other that the Merikan media condemn and their readers/listeners blindly accept while failing to realise that the worlds warmongers and war criminals have never been brought to justice – Churchill, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, LBJ, Nixon, Clinton the Bush gang, Obummer, Tony Blair and the megalomaniacs of HATO. [I deliberately left out the Joo terrorists – too many to name, including the current incumbent].

    Forget your Hollywood movies, depicting great events, forget your local news and print media and for goodness sake, throw away your school history books. Do some in-depth reading on historical events – read widely and perhaps you will be able to make up your own mind about events rather than continue to be told what to think.

    For your edification, my Best Man at my wedding was also the best friend I have had [until his untimely death] – he was a Jew. I have no problem with a person who practices a particular religion – simply on the grounds of that religion. So trying to label me as anti-Jew just demonstrates that you either have not read my posts or are incapable of comprehending the message I post.

    Oh, I almost missed the obligatory “Anti American” chant too. I am anti anyone, any country that supports Zionism – that bunch of psychopaths. There are many very good people in Merika – yes I too have Merikan friends, good friends. Generally, home-town Merikans are extremely hospitable, considerate and very open people. The sad part is that many of them actually believe their government’s lies – ALL governments lie! Sadly, it is taking Merikans a long time to wake up to this – the 9/11 home goal is starting to change some views – fortunately.

    How conceited, how arrogant you are to suggest that only people who think like you are “good posters” and are driven away by my posts! If we all thought like you, we would have a hellova worse world than we currently have. You will never learn if you continue to listen to yourself.

    i agree with that.
    There are to much people are so hardly indoctrinated that they will back up the lies they got told just to keep their shiny and glory world view of history and how great their countries are and they always fight the "evil countries" just to prevent that this "world view" could be wrong, it doesn't matter how much and accurate arguements and facts supported by evidence you bring on, the most are effected by the "Backfire" syndrome (phenomenon).

    "Backfire" a phenomenon where brainwashed people reject all facts and evidence that would falsify their view or believes, even with an "ultimate proof" they will reject it and believe more and more in their view and believes.
    This also occurs on very dogmatic religious believers.

    Vladimir79
    Grand Marshal
    Grand Marshal

    Posts : 2193
    Points : 3099
    Join date : 2009-07-10

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:06 pm

    I am not going to get involved in a philisophical debate over different brands of Islam or racial superiority, but Assad's forces are losing ground. The Eastern province of Dier-ez-Azor is controlled by rebels from the border to the capital, north of Aleppo and most of the Turkish border is controlled by rebels or Kurds. Rebels keep overunning regular Army positions and capture heavy weapons. They get stronger while the regime weakens. It is just a matter of time before he falls and we are backing the wrong horse.


    _________________
    The true value of life knows only the paratrooper. For he is more likely to look death in the eye.  -- Vasily Margelov

    Werewolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5391
    Points : 5640
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:44 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:I am not going to get involved in a philisophical debate over different brands of Islam or racial superiority, but Assad's forces are losing ground. The Eastern province of Dier-ez-Azor is controlled by rebels from the border to the capital, north of Aleppo and most of the Turkish border is controlled by rebels or Kurds. Rebels keep overunning regular Army positions and capture heavy weapons. They get stronger while the regime weakens. It is just a matter of time before he falls and we are backing the wrong horse.


    What exactly you mean "we are backing the wrong horse"

    I back up the least worse scenario and thats the current goverment under Assad.
    When he falls, the next countries would be Lebanon,Jordan and the end goal is Iran.
    Iran is the only country that is not following what Washington wants and that for it will be always its target.

    And did you see how this "FSA terrorists" fighting, the majority of this guys are the usual A-team opponents wich are called the "high trained elite" and this idiots just shooting from the hip and spreading fire like US GI's did in Vietnam.

    If this idiots will bring down the Syrian Army, it will be also a proof that this idiots wasn't the source of this happening.

    Like in Lybia where NATO troops were reported and even photographed next to gaddafis dead body, like several source provided credible source that special forces were secretley involved in this fights.

    To me its very obviouse that this FSA can't just overrun the Syrian army by them own,they don't have the experience niether the capability on them own. And the supporters of FSA want just watch how they lose against Syrian Army.

    Like we already know, they use False Flag Attacks to blame Syrian Army for that.
    The Mortar strikes on Turkey soil, that was done by FSA wich is proofen with Spain 120mm AE mortars.
    They also false flagging an attack on Israel. Its so obvious only brainwashed idiots don't want to see this.

    When you are the Syrian Goverment and you already have a civilian war in your country that has a very big impact on the stability and your Army aswell the overall demoralized society, you know you will not risk anything with an neighbour country.

    And this false flag attacks are creating everywhere they can't do that with simple made up "revolutions".


    Like the frauded warning of Obama, that they make a red line when Assad Regime will use "Chemical" weapons against its own people they will intervent.... thats so hilarious,the Nr.1 Genocider USA is telling another country by wich rules they have to play.
    And im pretty sure that Israel will bring their Chemical weapons into FSA hands to place again a False Flag against Syrian civilian people to have a justification, how bad Assads Regime is and that no other country can longer wait for UN resolution and Russian and Chinese veto.


    From war to war its getting more and more obvious wich tactics they will use, its not longer a game wich is played by the US police state, the society is waking up.

    Vladimir79
    Grand Marshal
    Grand Marshal

    Posts : 2193
    Points : 3099
    Join date : 2009-07-10

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:55 pm

    Do you see Assad putting down the rebellion? Over the past couple weeks the rebels have been kicking his arse.


    _________________
    The true value of life knows only the paratrooper. For he is more likely to look death in the eye.  -- Vasily Margelov

    Werewolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5391
    Points : 5640
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:08 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Do you see Assad putting down the rebellion? Over the past couple weeks the rebels have been kicking his arse.

    Do you even see how much supplies they get through NATO?
    This retards are better equipped than german special forces.

    They get Steyr Aug, G36,M16,FN90,Stinger very modern communication systemes,navigation systemes like military GPS and you are wondering about this?
    And guess what they also get!? NATO surveivallance like our German navy ship that was deployed in the sea to support FSA with surveivallance and recon tasks.

    This FSA bastards get more back up than Syrian Army, and they also have better equipment.

    And i'm shocked that you support FSA.

    Kysusha
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 221
    Points : 239
    Join date : 2010-09-25
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Kysusha on Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:53 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Do you see Assad putting down the rebellion? Over the past couple weeks the rebels have been kicking his arse.

    FUKUSI can prolong the conflict in Syria as long as they want and in doing so cause immeasurable suffering to the inhabitants. For FUKUSI, they only have to commit a handful of trained troops and provide satellite and advanced communications/surveillance and the latest hardware for their special Ops guys. The other hardware they provide is the AK’s, SLR’s and 1st generation kit that is supplied to the Wahhabi mercenaries and carpetbaggers. Unless the world supports Assad, then in the long-term he is doomed – like Smith was in Rhodesia. That’s just the stark military fact.

    However, this was never a conflict against a demigod, dictatorial ruler – Assad was a moderate and was holding Syria together; exactly because of that, he was a danger to the Joos. Remove Assad, destroy the fabric of Syria and then they have defeated a “supposed enemy” without having to commit troops to the war. They then also void the UN resolution which states that they are illegally holding Syrian soil – the Golan Heights. Joos were told to hand back the Golan Heights to Syria – did they?? Have they ever complied with a UN resolution – yet whinge and whine when others fail or are tardy in complying with UN resolutions.

    Read the article I posted about the Joo plan for the Middle East – this is following exactly in that scenario; like it is scripted. Imagine the control that the Joos have in order to commit HATO, FUKUS to commit to their plan for the Middle East.

    What other nations in the region need to look at – is where to next! If they had any brains, they would unite and attack Isreahell by destroying the Zionist infrastructure there. Isreahell is bankrupt without the millions of US dollars that flood into there every year as some sort of guilt money for the poor Joo. Attack that; cut that off and the Joos would sink.

    As for backing the wrong horse – not my style at all to switch horses. I support the morality of a position whether the world does or not. It may be a losing side, but I have the conscience of a baby in that my cause was honourable, my deeds just. I won’t swing with the populist movement or be swayed by the glitter of the “winning side’. And even if [and after] Syria falls, I will continue my campaign against the psychopathic Zionists. Like John the Baptist, a voice in the wilderness – “make straight the path of the Lord”.

    Werewolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 5391
    Points : 5640
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:06 pm

    Kysusha wrote:

    What other nations in the region need to look at – is where to next! If they had any brains, they would unite and attack Isreahell by destroying the Zionist infrastructure there. Isreahell is bankrupt without the millions of US dollars that flood into there every year as some sort of guilt money for the poor Joo. Attack that; cut that off and the Joos would sink.

    I'm wondering why this also not happened yet. But i guess its the old tactic "divide and rule". They "divide" the people and the ethnical/religious groups that they won't trust each other and will do the job on them own, to weakening the countries society and stability.
    Such process are often controlled from outside. Like the Americans do with African countries, they support one group with all they need and the balance between forces is overthrown, than the stronger will abuse his position and treat all his "enemies" like he wants. When this is not happening by them own they will place "advisers" or spread misinformations to lead the enemy groups to towards each other to start an aggression.

    The US (in vast majority) does it to keep this resourceful countries under its control through instability, to sell them weapons like in the movie "Lord of War" or like the CIA always does support one group to overthrow an unwilling little government and to achieve the symphaty of its new leadingship and to get the resources cheap and without big noise.

    There was also an documentary about how US get the African soil through credits.
    They foolish the poor Africans for credits they can't never paybackin their entire lifes. Unknowlingly that they can't pay it back they take the credits and few years the US is asking for the money they owe them.They can't pay them back and the US is forcing them to sell their resourceful soil to their companies as a "fine".

    Thats the major reason why the resourcefull African countries still have no real infrastructure and industry.

    But i'm to off-topic now...

    The best way the Israelis could get out of this deep shit they have caused themselfs, to give the country to the Palestinians back, with small parts over a decades,treating its neighbours like friends not foes,stopping its warmongering and the Joos bad habit of screaming for help while killing others, and over decades the anger will calm down and maybe they won't be treated like they treated the arabs since start of its colonizing. I don't see any other chance to get out of this misery without getting persecuted for their war crimes by the whole ME.

    Kysusha wrote:
    As for backing the wrong horse – not my style at all to switch horses. I support the morality of a position whether the world does or not. It may be a losing side, but I have the conscience of a baby in that my cause was honourable, my deeds just. I won’t swing with the populist movement or be swayed by the glitter of the “winning side’. And even if [and after] Syria falls, I will continue my campaign against the psychopathic Zionists. Like John the Baptist, a voice in the wilderness – “make straight the path of the Lord”.
    Couldn't say it better, even in my language.

    Sponsored content

    Re: Syrian Reconciliation Talks

    Post  Sponsored content Today at 10:14 pm


      Current date/time is Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:14 pm