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    Q+A-Russian-Pakistan rivalry giving way to cooperation?

    Post  nightcrawler on Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:25 pm

    * Russo-Pakistan relations a history of ups and downs

    * Energy concerns vital to both

    * Islamic militancy a common enemy

    By Augustine Anthony

    ISLAMABAD, Jan 23 (Reuters) - Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov arrives in Islamabad for a two-day bilateral counter-terrorism summit starting on Monday, as Moscow seeks to deepen ties with Islamabad.

    While the Russians and Pakistanis are being tight-lipped over the discussions, here are some questions and answers about the state of ties between the old Cold War foes, now facing a common threat from Islamist militancy.

    WHAT ARE THE UPS AND DOWNS OF PAKISTAN-RUSSIA TIES?

    Pakistan and Russia (formerly the Soviet Union) were on opposite sides during the Cold War, when Pakistan allied with the United States the Soviet Union backed Pakistan's main rival, India.

    The two were bitter enemies in the 1980s when Pakistan supported mujahideen guerrillas battling Soviet troops in Afghanistan. The Soviets were eventually forced to withdraw after 10-year occupation.

    Moscow and Islamabad remained rivals during the Taliban's rule in Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001. Russia, along with Iran and India, backed the then Northern Alliance against the Taliban, who were recognised only by Pakistan and two other Muslim countries.

    But ties have warmed since a 2003 visit by Pakistan's then military president, Pervez Musharraf -- the first by a Pakistani leader in 30 years. In recent years, Russia has pursued a more pragmatic foreign policy and sought closer ties with Pakistan.

    But Moscow has been careful not to harm relations with Pakistan's traditional foe India, a major arms client.

    WHAT ARE RUSSIA'S INTERESTS IN PAKISTAN?

    Russia is concerned about Pakistan as a source of Islamist militancy and potential nuclear proliferation. It suspects that Muslim extremists in Pakistani sanctuaries on the Afghan border have links with militants from the North Caucasus and other Muslim Russian regions. Pakistan, therefore, could be an important plank in any Russian strategy to stem a the spread of militancy into and across ex-Soviet Central Asia.

    One of Russia's specific concerns is the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, an al Qaeda ally that has found sanctuary for years in Pakistan's tribal regions. It is one of the leading Islamist militant groups in Central Asia.

    Russia is also jockeying for more regional influence ahead of an eventual departure, or at least drawdown, of U.S. and NATO forces from Afghanistan. It needs better relations with Pakistan, seen as an important player in any Afghan settlement, because of its influence over senior Taliban leaders.

    Security talks with Pakistan would also likely include cooperation against drug-trafficking, originating in Afghanistan and routed through Pakistan and Iran and on to markets in the Balkans and Europe. An increasing flow of Afghan heroin has contributed to a rise in HIV cases in Russia.

    IS PAKISTAN A MARKET FOR RUSSIAN WEAPONS?

    No one has yet said anything about any weapons sales to Pakistan being under consideration at the summit, but Russia aggressively seeks to boost arms sales abroad and has participated in defence exhibitions in Pakistan in the past.

    Pakistan has relied heavily on the United States and China for much of its defence needs, but would like to diversify its suppliers. Any arms sales would require delicate diplomacy, however. Russia is a big supplier of weapons and a key ally to rival India.

    Pakistan and India have fought three full-scale wars since independence in 1947.

    WHAT ABOUT ENERGY INTERESTS?


    Russia is interested in participating in a proposed gas pipeline leading from ex-Soviet Turkmenistan to India via Afghanistan and Pakistan. Turkmenistan is trying to diversity export routes, long dominated by Russia, and has been cool to the idea of Russian involvement.

    Moscow has in the past shown interest in a $7.6 billion gas pipeline project for export of Iranian natural gas to Pakistan, saying gas monopoly Gazprom was ready to help implement and finance the pipeline, expected to be completed by 2015. (Additional reporting by Steve Gutterman in Moscow; Editing by Chris Allbritton and Alex Richardson) (For more Reuters coverage of Pakistan, see: Pakistan | Reuters.com) (If you have a query or comment about this story, send an e-mail to news.feedback.asia@thomsonreuters.com)

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:10 pm

    Well Russia is cooperating with NATO and the US, so why not Pakistan... where there is mutual benefits to such cooperation.

    And of course India is looking more to the US for material though so far this is in areas where Russia was not able to compete... like the new Posiden aircraft where the Russians really don't have a fully operational replacement for their Il-38s ready and in production, and of course with the Il-76 no yet back in production and the An-70 still not being built they have spent ridiculous amounts of money on C-17s.


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    Post  CSTOSCOcomrade on Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:03 pm

    It Gives me great pleasure to announce the fact that pakistan's chief of military staff had paid a visit to the russian federation , a key player in pakistani politics and relations , moreover it is believed that strategic relations were discussed between the two countries.

    First and Foremost i'd like to say that i am indeed a muslim , with Uzbek Pakistani and Kazakhstani roots , i know what the popular impression of pakistan is portrayed by the western media however it is not so , it is infact a rising and developing country , that has a very popular SCO/CSTO and russia sentiment that is slowly growing with time , And Pakistan is one of the nations that doesn't relate the Russian Federation to the soviet union , this opportunity has given a rise for a potential of new relations , in my personal view i do not support chechen independence , and im very sure that chechnya was infact a long arm project of the CIA circulating the fact that the CIA have been using the mujahedeen to train terrorist groups to aide in this unholy mission for long , Central Asia and the Middle east those of us who are true people the portrayers of truth and not western slave have and will always continue to support russia ,I've seen the west demean russia as racist intolerant and indifferent but i doubt this , for a country who's very national anthem states fraternity and brotherhood of multi ethnic people russia is a spyre for equality and peace , and Mother Russia truly deserves to be the queen of russia , for they have always supported their allies when the world was against them , Iran and Syria are examples of russian greatness in my eyes and the russian army , the spetsnaz are unmatched , Pakistan's politicians are unpopular and hated by the people , they are american puppets as with every middle eastern dictatorship , and there is no doubting the fact we too are an oppressed country , while others seek to go elsewhere my dream is to support russia , and in my efforts i've formed a popular sentiment and youth movement for Central asian Pakistani and Russo Chinese relationship and realizations.

    I still believe russia is a super power and a good one , Vladimir Putin is a politician that i think the world should look up to a brilliant mind , we are no longer ready to become NATO dogs we want peace between ourselves and india this is the youth the new generation of pakistani's that have let out silent cheers from their homes as russia and pakistan dawned on new relations , We thank Russia for maintaining the security of all eastern nations from the tyranny of NATO , we thank their people for their unending support and fraternity , we thank them for not stereo typing us on popular sentiment , i hope this works out and pakistan joins the SCO , and i hope for a great future between our countries one that may form several benefits not only military but economic educational and commercial , This Message approves as a thanking for russia , we hope that we will not make the stupid mistakes of the cold war that our leaders will be smart enough to realize your role , Thank you Russia for granting this opportunity we shall be faithful and endearing comrades hopefully till the end of time

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  TR1 on Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:38 pm

    The recent "resumption" in relations is definitely interesting- there is surely untapped economic and military cooperation between the two nations.

    The whole SCO and Russian/Chinese alliance building in the region is an intriguing counterweight to boring old NATO Wink .

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:59 am

    It is good for Russia to have good relations with other countries, and good relations with Russia would also be good for Pakistan I believe.

    A prolonged period of peace and trade in the region would be good for all countries involved.


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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:16 pm

    This might led India to a more close relationship with US however

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  CSTOSCOcomrade on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:50 pm

    George1 wrote:This might led India to a more close relationship with US however

    Pakistan and India can work towards a peaceful relationship their opposition is and always will be history , now is the time for a young generation to rise and both india and pakistan's youth are dedicated to peace , they have a more France-Germany sort of relationship in the coming , besides why would the attack one another both countries have nuclear weapons and there's no reason for both India and Pakistan to fight , if one is accepted both will be i think the CSTO/SCO will resolve this matter , peace and diplomacy is a long process and Pakistan and India are working hand in hand to make it so , India could turn to the US but it's definitely not joining NATO in any circumstance .. hence Pakistan and India are extremely peace viable it's just a basic cultural and religious opposition that's fading away ,

    This is 2012 not British India ,

    Pakistan would be stupid for doing this to gain support against India , neither Pakistan or India will fight it would trigger an instant world war and in the end they'll both suffer , same happend with the Iran Iraq war , Iran's being suppressed Iraq is suppressed they don't want to get America involved in this , if russia supports pakistan than NATO would have just lost all it's major supply routes to afghanistan , in that case they could withdraw as early as late 2013.

    Lets face it afghanistan was a failed war everything they did was a failure

    Russia actually invaded for a purpose it was supporting a revolution

    the americans wasted thousands of billions of dollars , had about 10,000 troops killed for no reason , and settled in countries that are still unstable and they are struggling to control ..

    and they did it all for one man , that they didn't even need to invade a country for to kill ..

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  CSTOSCOcomrade on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:55 pm

    Pakistan is sick and tired of being a puppet state , it needs liberation and Russia is salvation to a country like that , China usually doesn't attack directly , but Russia has a strength factor , and when the Bear tells you to back off .. well there's nothing much a bald eagle can do ..

    Russia and China have successfully stabilized many areas they can stabilize pakistan with ease , and bring peace to that region , where russia and china go security usually follows.

    Better than NATO bombs..

    and neither India nor Pakistan want NATO bombs ..


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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:31 am

    Ah we get all sorts in this forum don't we Smile
    It's becoming more and more like that bar in Mos Eisley

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  ricky123 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:53 am


    ahh people r so innocent that they really beleave that usa or russian would bring peace .. have u heard about the great game ? here is a link
    to the pakistani who started the thread
    Code:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9TpbDjbEug

    no 2 countries love each other in this world .they just follow thier countries intrest . there is a russian intrest in pakistan russia doesnt want the tapi pipeline to continue.however russia is ready to finiance a new pipeline frome iran to india

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:30 am

    This might led India to a more close relationship with US however

    Sure, it might, but then India has always tried to diversify its sources for weapons, and at the moment appears to be looking at US contracts it would not previously have considered (or been offered).

    The reality is that Russia and India have a good relationship, but it is hardly exclusive.

    Russia sells to China, and if things improve with Pakistan it might start selling products to Pakistan too.

    Better relations wont hurt India and to be honest better relations between Pakistan and India would be better for both countries and the region.


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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:11 pm

    Pakistan Invites Russian Energy Companies to Explore Opportunities

    Pakistani petroleum and natural resources minister said that south Asian country invited Russian oil and gas companies to examine exploration opportunities.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik), Svetlana Alexandrova – Pakistan invited Russian oil and gas companies to examine exploration opportunities, the south Asian country's petroleum and natural resources minister told Sputnik.

    "We have asked the Russian energy minister to have the Russian oil and gas exploration companies to visit Pakistan and look at the oil exploration in our country. So, hopefully, they will visit us within the next couple of months," Shahid Khaqan Abbasi said in an interview.

    The minister added that Russian companies might choose any form of involvement into business in Pakistan, including setting up a concession block or cooperate with the existing ones.

    Late last year, Russia and Pakistan announced an agreement on the construction of gas transportation and regasification infrastructure in Pakistan. According to the minister, an intergovernmental agreement on the project may be finalized as early as next month.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150415/1020910398.html#ixzz3XPVcFQUn

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:13 am

    Pakistan Wants Russia to Play Larger Role in International Politics

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150417/1020995963.html#ixzz3XVqswoYA

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:17 pm

    Russia to Lend Pakistan $2 Billion for Gas Pipeline Construction

    Pakistan and Russia have finalized an agreement under which Moscow will lend Islamabad $2 billion to lay a pipeline that will transport liquefied natural gas (LNG).

    Pakistan and Russia have finalized an agreement under which Moscow will lend Islamabad $2 billion to lay a pipeline that will transport liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Karachi to Lahore.

    In return Russian companies will be given the contract to build the pipeline. The Russian contractors will build a 1,100-kilometer-long pipeline. The first LNG exports will start in 2016, and Russia has also offered to sell gas to Pakistan.

    This is not the first major cooperation agreement between the two countries over infrastructure. The former Soviet Union had financed the construction of the state-owned Pakistan Steel Mills under a similar arrangement. It had also helped to supply oil drilling equipment for the state-owned Oil and Gas Development Company. Some of that equipment is still in use today.

    Earlier this month, Pakistan launched its first LNG import terminal in the southern seaport of Karachi in a bid to counter power shortages in the country. But the consumption of gas in the country exceeds the existing pipeline capacity; hence, new pipelines are needed urgently.

    Natural gas is liquefied for transportation over long distances and must be degasified before being distributed further via pipelines.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150418/1021065550.html#ixzz3XesmTzp0

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:30 am

    Pakistan turning away from US, warming up to Moscow — WSJ

    On Thursday, Pakistan said it would buy four Russian Mi-35 attack helicopters after a spate of high-level visits between the two countries

    NEW YORK, August 21. /TASS/. Changing geopolitical dynamics and the shift of Washington’s focus from Pakistan to India, which the US is viewing as counterweight to China, has encouraged Moscow and Islamabad that stood in a tough opposition to each other in the 1980’s over Afghanistan, "to mend fences", The Wall Street Journal said in an article published on Thursday.

    "On Thursday, Pakistan said it would buy four Russian Mi-35 attack helicopters for an undisclosed price, after a spate of high-level visits between the two countries," the newspaper said, adding that a $ 2 billion natural-gas pipeline project was also in the works.

    It recalled that Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who attended a summit conference of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in the Russian city of Ufa at the beginning of last month, said at a meeting with President Vladimir Putin he wanted a multidimensional relationship with Russia, which would encompass defence, trade and the energy sector.

    WSJ quoted a former senior Pakistani diplomat saying Pakistan had decided it was no longer an American client state. "Pakistan has decided that although America will remain important, it must have other alternatives," said the diplomat, Zafar Hilaly.

    The 1,100 kilometers-long pipeline that will be built by the Russian government-owned amalgamation Rostec is the most graphic symbol of the rising new relationship between Pakistan and Russia, the article said. The pipeline will carry imported natural gas from Karachi to Lahore, a major city in the country’s east, thus helping Pakistan cope with the current energy shortages.

    The new pipeline is to be completed by 2018. It will be able to carry 2 billion cubic feet of gas a day. This is equivalent to about a half of Pakistan’s current gas production from its domestic fields.

    "The Russian pipeline would represent Moscow’s first major project in Pakistan since the early 1970s, when the Soviet Union helped build a steel mill in Karachi during a brief warming of relations that followed the election of a left-leaning leader in Islamabad," the WSJ said. "The two countries are now discussing ways that Russia can upgrade the mill, Pakistani officials said."

    According to the WSJ, Rostec officials say the amalgamation will raise the funds needed to the pipeline project.


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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  Pak_Power on Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:55 pm

    [quote="George1"]This might led India to a more close relationship with US however[/quote]
    They( INDIA) already have gone but can not leave Russia to black mail western countries n their weapons spares.

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  medo on Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:29 pm

    India and Pakistan will next year become full members of SCO, what mean they will be allies in the same organization. Being a member of SCO alliance logically mean you have good relations with Russia and China. Maybe this membership will also help Pakistan and India to solve their conflict.

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:56 am

    Sadly just being in an alliance together does not solve the problems one country has with another... look at Turkey and Greece.

    I would like to see Pakistan and India being on much friendlier terms, but it is just too easy to hate and to take offense rather than to understand and forgive.

    The sad thing is they are all the same people separated by lines on a map and their choice of religion... not that much different than if one group liked Pepsi and the other liked Coca Cola.

    Terrible waste of time and money and energy really.


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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  kvs on Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:51 am

    I don't think the SCO is as coercive as NATO. The cold war was a good racket to pack the European states into
    an American cage. So far it seems that the Asian organizations are more about problem solving and there has
    been some movement on Pakistan-India relations.

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:57 pm

    Russian company to build North-South gas pipeline in Pakistan by mid-2020

    The capacity of the would-be pipeline is to stand at 12.4 billion cubic meters a year

    MOSCOW, October 16. /TASS/. RT-Global Resources, which is part of Russian state corporation Rostec, will carry out the project of the construction of the North-South gas pipeline in Pakistan by mid-2020, Rostec said in a statement.

    On Friday, the governments of Russia and Pakistan signed an intergovernmental agreement on the construction of the North-South gas pipeline.

    The document was signed by Russia’s Energy Minister Alexander Novak and Pakistani Petroleum and Natural Resources Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi.

    The 1100 km long gas pipeline will link liquefied natural gas /LNG/ terminals in the port of Karachi in the south of Pakistan with the city of Lahore in the north of the country.

    The period of construction is 42 months. The project will be implemented in three stages. On the first stage, by the second quarter of 2018, the gas pipeline will be built.

    On the second stage, by the second quarter of 2019, part of compressor stations will be completed.

    On the third stage, by the second quarter of 2020, all compressor stations will be commissioned bringing the pipeline to its full capacity, which is 12.4 billion cubic meters a year.

    The construction of the pipeline will provide orders for Russian industrial enterprises and will contribute to an increase in non-oil exports. The project will open up a new market for Russian companies.

    The project will be implemented in compliance with BOOT model (Build Own Operate Transfer). The built pipeline will be owned and operated by the project company for 25 years. During this period payments for gas deliveries will help the company return the investments and make profit. After that the pipeline will be handed over to the government of Pakistan.

    Currently, RT-Global Resources is conducting surveys and engineering work along the pipeline route.

    According to Andrei Korobov, general director of RT-Global Resources, the project’s implementation will imply maximum involvement of Russian producers and contractors. In particular, Rostec considers attracting the United Engine Corporation as a supplier of equipment for compressor stations of the future pipeline, he said.

    Pakistan’s state gas supplying company ISGAL acts as a partner customer in the project and will pay gas transportation services. In its turn, the government of Pakistan will issue a sovereign guarantee for project financing.

    The Russian side is considering possibilities to attract loans from Russian and Chinese development banks with the support of export credit agencies.

    RT-Global Resources will create a consortium uniting Russian and foreign investors including Chinese and Pakistani ones as well as potential contractors," the corporation said in the statement.
    North-South gas pipeline in Pakistan to cost $2bln-2.5 bln

    The construction the North-South gas pipeline in Pakistan will reach $2 bln-2.5 bln, an official with Russian state corporation Rostec told TASS.

    The project will be implemented by RT-Global Resources company, which is part of Rostec.

    "The costs of the gas pipeline construction will total about $2 bln-2.5 bln," the official said.


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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:46 am

    Construction of North-South gas pipeline in Pakistan to start in July — minister

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/economy/852706


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    Russia’s Vladimir Putin rejects invitation to visit Pakistan

    Post  Pinto on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:05 pm

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has turned down the invitation to visit Pakistan for inauguration of the North-South Pipeline Project with Moscow emphasising that there was not enough substance in this trip. This comes as the recent bonhomie between both sides has not lasted long despite Pakistan’s plans to buy armament, including aircraft from Russia, and signing of a number of bilateral agreements and setting up of the high-level consultative mechanism between Islamabad and Moscow Strategic Dialogue between their respective Foreign Ministers, Joint Working Group on counter-terrorism.

    The high-level visits were being projected as demonstrating the new level of friendship and enhanced engagement between the two countries. The exchange of high-profile visits by leaders of the two nations that raised Pakistan’s hopes of becoming a close ally of Russia did not persist. The assumption that Moscow was actively developing ties with Islamabad, particularly in trade and counter-terrorism, seems to have belied the general expectations.

    Over 100 Pakistani businessmen, who had visited Russia to participate in an exhibition, were detained earlier on March 26 by the Immigration Authorities in Moscow and subsequently deported back apparently due to visa issues. The Pakistani diplomats in Moscow had a very tough time in getting consular access to them. The cold shoulder being given by Russia to Pakistan is indicative of the underlying lack of trust between both sides, carried on from the days of the Cold War era.

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    Russian troops arrive for first ever joint military exercise with Pakistan

    Post  Pinto on Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:14 pm

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1285633


    RAWALPINDI: A contingent of Russian ground forces arrived in Pakistan on Friday for the first ever joint Pak-Russian exercise kicking off Sept 24.


    The two-week-long exercise is expected to continue until Oct 10, Director General Inter-Services Public Relations Asim Bajwa said.

    The exercises with Russian ground forces come at a time when tensions between Pakistan and India are running high following an attack on the Uri military camp in India-held Kashmir.


    Around 200 military personnel of both countries will participate in the drills, Radio Pakistan reported.

    The exercise is being seen as a demonstration of closer defence ties between the Pakistan and Russia after they signed a military cooperation pact in 2014.

    It comes after intense drills by the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) earlier this week that officials said had been long-planned, including landing combat aircraft on the Islamabad-Lahore motorway.


    The PAF on Thursday launched the Highmark Exercise, shutting down sections of the motorway leading out of the capital to land “several” combat aircraft for the first time in six years, a senior security source told AFP.

    But Pakistani officials said Highmark is a routine exercise, with a senior security official telling AFP that preparations ─ including setting the dates it would take place ─ had begun around one year ago.


    The drill is aimed an enhancing “operational preparedness”, the official said, and will continue for several weeks followed by months of evaluation.

    Foreign Ministry Spokesman Nafees Zakariya said on Thursday that the moves were regular and routine.

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    Confusion prevails over venue of Russia’s military exercise with Pakistan

    Post  Pinto on Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:00 pm

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/confusion-prevails-over-venue-of-russian-drill-with-pakistan/story-J2MXZAtBQUQrm64zN3SzYP.html

    Confusion persisted on Saturday regarding the venue of the first Russia-Pakistan military exercise despite a statement from the Russian embassy in New Delhi that the drill would not be held in a “sensitive or problematic” area such as Gilgit-Baltistan.
    Sources in Islamabad told Hindustan Times that there had been no change in plans for the drill to be held at the Pakistan Army’s High Altitude School at Rattu in Gilgit-Baltistan and a special forces training centre at Cherat in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province.

    “The exercise is going ahead at Rattu. The Russian unit that has come is one that specializes in mountain warfare in terrain such as that found in Rattu,” a source said.

    Adding to the confusion was a post on the drill on the Russian defence ministry’s website in the section “exercises”, which clearly said: “Friendship-2016, Russian-Pakistani tactic exercise, is held in the territory of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in at the bases of Rattu, the military mountain training school, and a training center of the special units in Cherat on September 24 – October 10.”

    Sources said this post on the Russian defence ministry’s website had also been shared with journalists in Islamabad.

    A post in the “news” section of the Russian defence ministry’s website announced that the Russian troops had arrived for the exercise but gave no details of the venue of the drill.


    The influential Dawn newspaper too reported that the exercise would be held at Rattu in Gilgit-Baltistan and Cherat.

    “The exercises will be held at Cherat – where the Special Services Group, the commando division of the Pakistan Army, is headquartered and where the Special Operations School is also located – and at the Army High Altitude School in Rattu, Astore district,” said the report on the paper’s back page.

    “The war games gained added significance after India advised Russia against holding drills in Pakistan. Importantly, these are being held at a time when tensions between India and Pakistan have climaxed in the aftermath of the Uri terrorist attack . Indian media had been claiming that Moscow agreed to call off the exercises,” the report added.

    After India repeatedly expressed its concerns about the plans to hold the drill in Gilgit-Baltistan, which was part of the erstwhile Jammu and Kashmir state and is claimed by India, the Russian embassy in New Delhi issued a statement late on Friday night that said the drill would not be held in a “sensitive or problematic” area.
    “Contrary to some reports appearing in a section of the press, the Russia-Pakistan antiterror exercise is not being held and will not be held in any point of so-called ‘Azad Kashmir’ or in any other sensitive or problematic areas like Gilgit and Baltistan,” the statement said.

    “The only venue of the exercise is Cherat. All reports alleging the drills taking place at the High Altitude Military School in Rattu are erroneous and mischievous,” it added.

    Significantly, the Russian defence ministry’s statement described Rattu as part of “the territory of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan”.
    About 70 soldiers from a mountain motorised rifle brigade of Russia’s Southern Military Division are taking part in the exercise. The drill is aimed at improving cooperation while “performing assigned tasks in mountains, including ones aimed at eliminating illegal armed groups”, the Russian ministry said.

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    Re: Russia-Pakistan New Dawn

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    Who would expect this during 80s...









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