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    Russian soldiers body armor?

    Post  SWAT Pointman on Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:30 pm

    Are Russian soldiers issued body armor? If so, what kind? And type of armor were Soviet Soldiers issued if they had any?

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    Re: Russian soldiers body armor?

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:28 am

    SWAT Pointman wrote:Are Russian soldiers issued body armor? If so, what kind? And type of armor were Soviet Soldiers issued if they had any?

    Yes. Can't really give you any more details; except that there is a shortage of it even now. Soviet soldiers had it issued to.

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    Post  TR1 on Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:37 am

    Way too many different kinds.

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    Re: Russian soldiers body armor?

    Post  GarryB on Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:36 am

    Soviet soldiers were issued body armour in WWII.

    In urban combat the first in the door often had steel plate body armour to protect from grenade fragments and SMG bullets...



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    Post  SWAT Pointman on Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:28 pm

    GarryB wrote:Soviet soldiers were issued body armour in WWII.

    In urban combat the first in the door often had steel plate body armour to protect from grenade fragments and SMG bullets...

    I'm pretty sure I read that was experimental and wasn't considered very effective. Even the US didn't have effective body armor until after the Vietnam war.

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    Post  Zivo on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 pm

    It went into production and was issued mainly to engineers in limited numbers. It could stop a 9mm round at a distance.

    Of course a significant percentage of the Wehrmacht used the Kar-98, which went right through it.

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    Re: Russian soldiers body armor?

    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:44 am

    It was quite widely used, the purpose was not to make the soldiers bullet proof, the intention was to reduce casualties to fragments.

    Full power rifle cartridges would penetrate from pretty much any range, but as Zivo mentions there were a lot of SMGs and pistols used in urban combat and these vests could stop 9mm most of the time. The real threat was fragments from grenades which were very heavily used by both sides in urban fighting.

    The hint is that even in Vietnam they weren't called bullet proof vests... they were called flak jackets... which is exactly what they were.

    Note these vests were not worn by entire units... generally it was the first guy in the door that wore such equipment as they were the most likely to get hurt if there was a grenade that still hadn't gone off by the time he entered. Also another trick both sides liked to do was wait till the enemy grenades went off in a room and then they threw their own grenades in, so that the enemy forces would burst into the room to shoot at anything that moved and then boom the enemies grenades went off.


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