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    Future Dogfights


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    Re: Future Dogfights

    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:01 pm

    make it rotate is my guess

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    Re: Future Dogfights

    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:55 am

    What if improvements in stealth design allow the stealthy creation of curved engine nozzles...

    Why flat nozzles only... what about hexagonal nozzles that are stealthy and still offer 3D thrust vector control?

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    Re: Future Dogfights

    Post  nomadski on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:49 am

    I feel like a kid in candy shop . So much equipment . All you need is clear vision . In the absence of an asymmetric solution . Then for the time being . Manned fighters are needed . A large scale direct confrontation between nuclear powers can be ruled out . So realistic problem for Russia is facing an attack from a non nuclear NATO proxy . Either neighbours of Russia or elsewhere . Since yank capital investment in satellites and radar is high . Then circumventing these will allow an advantage . For Russia taking out GPS satellites is completely doable . And if directly attacked by a proxy . Then Russia can take out these satellites . With justification . And little risk of confrontation with yanks . Because of nuclear deterrent . This will force an attacker to use laser guided weapons . And come close . If low RCS planes are made . Then yank advantage in radar is circumvented . They are forced to do WVR dog fighting . This evens out the odds for Russians and allied pilots . Finally these planes must have the highest ( 1/cost X kill ratio ) index . A mathematical value . And simplicity of design and minimal number of parts . Since even if Russians have the money to move factories underground . Their allies will have difficulty and limited resources . Exposed factories will be more easily destroyed . Also in wartime , the Russians will have difficulty transferring planes and machines by ship . So allies must be given this production facility in advance .

    If alternative asymmetric solutions to intruding fighters is not available . And Russia can not singly or in joint venture manufacture simple agile short range single seat stealth WVR superiority dog fighter . Then maintaining it's present fleet and setting up production in allied country is only solution left . This will be a more costly solution in wartime . Since these metal planes will be at disadvantage at times from long range radar and missiles . Unless jamming is effective in neutralising their radars . However we should try and not fall into the trap of going it toe to toe with them . Since they can put more planes into the air . The long term solution is finding novel ways of fighting them in the air .

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