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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:36 am

    Russian Naval Infantry units have traditionally had a fairly fierce reputation for doing a good job, I am pretty sure this reputation continues in the training and culture of these units.

    Without a conflict however it is hard to see what sort of performance level they are at, and the fact that they are not always issued the latest gear can blur the issue for some.

    Needless to say the blue and white striped T Shirts... whether they are bright blue and worn by the VDV or dark blue and worn by the RNI separate them from the average rank and file generally.

    The oddball vehicles like the PT-76 for the RNI are not a negative sign... the VDV kept the ASU-85 in service well after it became obsolete because there was no effective replacement that could be air dropped.

    Of course the PT-76 is amphibious and the ASU-85 is air portable, though the latter was replaced with ultimately by the Sprut... which will likely do the same for the PT-76.

    The vehicle shown is a PTS-M... and amphibious transport vehicle used for troops and material.


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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:03 am

    GarryB wrote:Needless to say the blue and white striped T Shirts... whether they are bright blue and worn by the VDV or dark blue and worn by the RNI separate them from the average rank and file generally.
    The stripped shirts worn by the Naval Infantry are also worn by the rest of the Navy Cool 

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:38 pm

    The Russin naval infantry Will get t90 tanks very Soon Maybe they already have Them.

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:07 am

    And being a sailor would certainly separate them from the average rank and file Army grunt... Razz 

    Last I heard the RNI were getting T-80s, but now they are being replaced we have also heard...

    We do know they are getting Mistral helicopter carriers with Ka-29 troop helos, Ka-226T multipurpose helos, and armed Ka-52 attack helos.


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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:And being a sailor would certainly separate them from the average rank and file Army grunt... Razz 

    Last I heard the RNI were getting T-80s, but now they are being replaced we have also heard...

    We do know they are getting Mistral helicopter carriers with Ka-29 troop helos, Ka-226T multipurpose helos, and armed Ka-52 attack helos.
    I wonder what the role of the Ka-62 in all this might be? An armed version used to replace the Ka-29, at least in certain specific roles?

    That big order at the Ka-52/Ka-62 Progress plant leaves me wondering; as you pointed out - they're unlikely to all be for Ka-52 attack helicopters.

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:09 pm

    I suspect the Mistrals will go to sea with various loadouts depending on its primary mission but I can't think of any mission where it would require all attack helos.

    For humanitarian missions it could carry all transport types (a mix of large and small) and certainly the Ka-62 would be useful on Mistrals, though the Ka-29 is a mature design with its nose mounted 30 cal gatling gun and 30mm cannon and four weapon pylons... the Ka-62 would have trouble matching that sort of payload.

    I wonder if they will fit a chin mounted gun on the Ka-62... the twin barrel 23mm gun as fitted to the late model Hinds is an ideal helicopter gun as it has a good HE payload with low recoil and small compact ammo, while its high rate of fire means useful burst fire groupings rather than a stream of fire you get from low rate of fire weapons.

    The difference of course is that the 23 x 115mm round is standard in aviation, but not so widely used in other areas.

    However in the various things I have read about the new Kalashnikov arms company... it seems they are developing new ammo and new weapons up to and including cannon ammo and as I have mentioned a combined 14.5 x 114mm/23 x 115mm anti material rifle would be interesting... especially as they will make custom ammo for it... which means a SLAP 14.5mm round and perhaps even a SLAP 23mm round with smoothbore barrels and high velocity.


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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:09 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    GarryB wrote:And being a sailor would certainly separate them from the average rank and file Army grunt... Razz 

    Last I heard the RNI were getting T-80s, but now they are being replaced we have also heard...

    We do know they are getting Mistral helicopter carriers with Ka-29 troop helos, Ka-226T multipurpose helos, and armed Ka-52 attack helos.
    I wonder what the role of the Ka-62 in all this might be? An armed version used to replace the Ka-29, at least in certain specific roles?

    That big order at the Ka-52/Ka-62 Progress plant leaves me wondering; as you pointed out - they're unlikely to all be for Ka-52 attack helicopters.
    Maybe a multirole helicopter like Blackhawk? ASW, SAR, Squad Transport

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:29 pm

    The Ka-226T is as multirole as they come... it has detachable pods for different mission equipment.

    Of course the Ka-62 is brand new so we really can't tell what they intend to do with it... the main negative is that tail rotor... which is never a good thing on a ship.

    (note when hovering it is easiest to keep station by turning the whole helo into the wind and then having a slightly nose down attitude so you are flying into the wind at the same speed as the wind thus your position over the deck does not move except for the waves moving the deck of course... if the ship turns or the wind changes direction however the helicopter pilot will need to turn the helo to maintain position which can mean a tail rotor swinging around the deck with no notice at all... very very dangerous.

    Ka-29, Ka-52, Ka-226T have no tail rotor... you might get knocked to the ground by the tail structure, but you wont get chopped up into sushi by a tail rotor.)

    Yes I know the Ka-62 has a shrouded tail rotor but I still don't like it on a ship. Sad )


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    Post  zg18 on Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:27 pm

    New marine recruits (over 400 of them) begun shooting practices , Far East

















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    Russian naval infantry needs a new amphibious armoured infantry fighting vehicle.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:21 pm

    I am not sure if there already was a post of this if there was i am sorry.

    The Russian Ministry of Defense has formulated the specifications for the new amphibious armored infantry vehicle, which will conduct amphibious assault landings from the new French Mistral helicopter carrier. The Russian Navy Main Command requires that each vehicle would accommodate no fewer than 15 soldiers with their organic weapons and gear, and also mortars, automatic grenade launchers, portable air defense missile complexes and large-caliber machine guns.


    The BMP-3F is currently the standard amphibious infantry armoured vehicle of the Russian Marine Infantry units.

    "The vehicle must be of the proper size, much larger than the current BMP-2, BMP-3 and BTR-80. Consequently, its weight must total approximately 30 tonnes," Izvestiya's interlocutor at the Navy Main Command said.

    The seamen's other requirements are - a mandatory passive defense complex (TNT blocks are attached to the armor from the outside so that, when a projectile hits, the directional counter explosion would absorb its destructive force). It is also desirable to equip the vehicle with an Arena type active defense complex (onboard launchers fire a hail of metal balls, which intercept a flying projectile at a distance of 25 meters).

    Finally, the new naval infantry vehicle must totally support the amphibious assault force with fire and combat- all possible threats, including tanks and helicopters. Therefore, its weapons will not lag behind the BMP-2, which has a 30 millimeter gun, a 7.62 millimeter machinegun and an antitank guided missile launcher.

    According to information from the Russian Ministry of Defense, the request from the Russian naval infantry battalions for both Mistrals and also the weapons have already been determined and, therefore, they decided to reject the advanced Kurganets-25 and BMP-3F amphibious armored vehicles.

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:16 am

    Interesting, because at one stage they were talking about a modified Kurganets with better sea keeping performance and ability to operate in rough sea.

    Sounds like they want a bigger vehicle with more internal capacity for troops.

    Would love to see an extended body model of either boomerang or kurganets to retain commonality...


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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  George1 on Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:43 pm

    Νοw that T-80s removed from service, what type of tanks Marines have? T-90s??

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  TR1 on Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:30 pm

    I have not ever seen Marines with these mythical T-80s in the first place....

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:34 am

    Likely just upgraded T-72s till something new is available.


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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:59 pm

    Russian naval infantry has t-90's already


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    The T-90 is a Russian third-generation main battle tank that is essentially a modernisation of the T-72B, incorporating many features of the T-80U (it was originally to be called the T-72BU, later renamed to T-90). It is currently the most modern tank in service with the Russian Ground Forces and Naval Infantry. [quote]

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  George1 on Fri May 16, 2014 5:43 pm

    Russian Baltic Fleet Marines Practice Landing Op Near Kaliningrad

    KALININGRAD, May 16 (RIA Novosti) – More than 300 marines of the Russian Baltic Fleet conducted a training assault Friday on the coastline of a hypothetical aggressor in the Kaliningrad region, the fleet's press service said.

    "We are practicing suppression missions on fortified coastal settlements of a hypothetical aggressor using naval firepower, landing operations on an unimproved shore, as well as warfare tactics with amphibious assault forces," the statement said.

    In the near future, the soldiers are to finish their exercises and complete the combat training missions for marine and airborne training. Their final examination in combat training will be participation in battalion-level tactical exercises.

    In addition to the marines, about 20 military vehicles are involved in the training, as well as several landing boats and the Mordovia, a Zubr-class air-cushioned landing craft, the world’s largest hovercraft design.

    The Zubr-class hovercraft are designed to transport military equipment along with airborne units and to discharge troops on unimproved shores while providing suppressive fire. The ships are also equipped to lay mines.

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:51 am

    n late February 2014, at least one Black Sea Fleet assigned unit (at company level) was apparently using Tigr armoured cars near Sevastopol during the 2014 Crimean crisis. Later on during the same crisis [March 2014] imagery emerged of some Naval Infantry personnel carrying what appeared to be the OTs-14-1A-04 7.62x39mm assault rifle with an under-barrel G-30 40mm grenade launcher; A bullpup design normally associated with the Russian Airborne Troops, as well as Combat Engineering and Spetsnaz units.

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  zg18 on Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:58 am

    http://pressa-tof.livejournal.com/234321.html (All images)

    New system of training for PF marines.

    Thanks to the advanced technique, the amount of practical training has been increased four times. To recruits feel confident in any situation, half of the exercises held at night.







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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:18 pm

    Is there any news About the new amphibious vehicles Russia was designing for use from the mistrals?

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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:15 am

    None really, beyond the comments about Kurganets in an upgraded amphibious version with improved sea keeping performance and better landing capabilities.


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    Re: Russian Naval Infantry: Equipment and News

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:17 am

    GarryB wrote:None really, beyond the comments about Kurganets in an upgraded amphibious version with improved sea keeping performance and better landing capabilities.

    That would be an awesome vechicle!!

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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:07 pm

    October 30, 2014. VL.ru. Marine Brigade of the Pacific Fleet tactical exercises.


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    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:06 pm

    The Russian Marines mark the 309th anniversary on November 27. First Russian naval infantry force was formed in 1705 and since than has fought in numerous wars. Russian Marines are equipped with amphibious tanks, mobile anti-tank and anti-missile systems and automatic small arms to operate in any regions and in any weather conditions. The total number of Russian marines now stands at about 12.5 thousand people.

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