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    Post  Flagship Victory on Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:53 pm

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    Post  Book. on Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:43 am

    Air Force: Lost Predator was shot down in Syria
    By Brian Everstine, Staff writer 12:59 p.m. EDT June 30, 2015

    The Air Force has acknowledged that an MQ-1B Predator, lost March 17 during an intelligence flight over Syria, was shot down.

    While Syria's official news agency at the time claimed the remotely piloted aircraft was shot down, U.S. Defense Department officials only would say the drone was lost, and didn't provide additional information because the incident was under investigation.

    The Air Force this week posted a news story online about a web-based application used by intelligence experts to share information collected by remotely piloted aircraft. The application, the Air Force wrote, was adjusted in March after "a deployed MQ-1 was shot down over Syria" near the coastal town of Latakia..


    The Air Force story did not say if the aircraft was shot down by Syrian forces or fighters with the Islamic State group. At the time, Syrian state media claimed the aircraft was shot down by Syrian air defenses. If correct, the shoot down contradicts Air Force and Pentagon claims that throughout the air campaign Syrian air defenses have been "permissive."

    Lt. Gen. John Hesterman, the combined forces air component commander for Operation Inherent Resolve, told reporters during a briefing June 5 that "so far, (the regime has) chosen not to engage coalition aircraft, which I think is very wise of them."

    The Air Force has repeatedly claimed that the Bashar al-Assad regime has not actively used air defenses throughout the operation, though the service regularly uses F-22-led fighter escorts for bombers on sorties in Syria as protection.

    The March shoot down was among the first times remotely piloted aircraft had been shot at, Stephen Coffey, the web innovations deputy director in the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance innovations directorate for headquarters Air Force at the Pentagon, said in the service's release.

    "Applying technology without the skill craft … had atrophied for us, since RPAs had not been shot at for 20 years," Coffey said in the release. "Time was not our friend in this particular case, so it's important that we had an early adoption of the technology."

    In March, a senior defense official told USA Today that Syria "likely" shot down the Predator. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the incident was under investigation.

    The Air Force has not yet released an accident investigation board report on the mishap. It is not clear if a safety investigation board report, a classified investigation into a mishap, has been finalized. Public reports on aircraft lost during operations typically are released more than nine months to a year after the mishap.

    Air Force MQ-1B Predators and MQ-9 Reapers have been active in Operation Inherent Resolve in both Iraq and Syria. The aircraft have flown 3,300 sorties, and conducted 875 airstrikes in the battle as of June 16, according to the Air Force.

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/06/29/air-force-lost-predator-was-shot-down-in-syria/29474659/

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:25 pm

    I don't know where to put this on the site, so if a mod wants to move it please do.

    Some don't like Veterans Today and a lot of their stuff is suspect (indeed maybe the Israel/IS link in this article is) but a really interesting bit came up today on how an RT article could have identified a rare, very limited source, sniper rifle in the hands of IS. May have been intentional but more likely whoever selected the photo was not aware of its significance. The VT aspect could be apt as they and their friends are involved in weapon design so it looks like this time they could be on the money.

    Anyone got anything to say on their comments on the weapons, including Russian, mentioned?

    Now for the back story.  The weapon the ISIS jihadist is carrying was built from a VT design.  This is a special purpose weapon, in .300 “Blackout,” a limited production cartridge originally designed for use by special operations forces, one VT has worked with extensively.  The scope on the ISIS weapon is a 32mm 1-6x with bullet drop compensator, a relatively rare product sold by VT but sourced from a Chinese manufacturer who builds these for the US Department of Defense.  This is a restricted export product.

    The weapon itself has a 10 inch barrel and a low profile quad rail manufactured in the US.  Here is what is particularly strange.  VT sells these weapons to civilian users with the same flash can shown, a barrel extension that magnifies sound and muzzle flash, something no combat weapon should have.  Combat versions offer silencers or flash hider/muzzle compensators instead.  This is a copy of a VT civilian design, not the military versions.

    Back in 2014, an Israeli company came to the US looking for semi-automatic sniper systems in the AR platform and in NATO 7.62×51 caliber.  These are limited production and very devastating weapons.  VT is a prime designer of these systems.  The Israeli company flew a firm VT has worked with and shared technical workups with, limited production weapons design people are a social lot and share parts, “work arounds” and other information regularly, to Azerbaijan to set up a production facility.

    The weapon above came from that facility.  This is a 4 pound, 19 inch long weapon that fires a 123 grain bullet accurately up to 400 meters with a muzzle velocity of 2350 fps.  At 300 meters it can put 10 rounds in 10 seconds onto a 12 inch bulls eye.  An AK47 is a child’s toy in comparison.  This weapon has no recoil, no muzzle rise and can carry up to 100 round magazines. (Seen with IDF issue 30 round magazine)

    Were VT to have offered these weapons to Syria, there would have been arrests and long prison sentences.  If the ACOG (Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight) scope alone was sold without export license, only available to Israel, it would be prison again, violating not only export licenses but terrorism as well.

    Weapons like this and other VT designs never intended for global arms smuggling are a game changer.  The 7.62×51 NATO version with 18 inch barrel can put accurate high rate fire on a target 800 meters away compared to the Russian Dragunov or other AK and RPD variants which are pure “spray and pray.”  If ISIS has this weapon, it has the other designs as well.

    Russia Today seems to be totally at odds with Russia’s foreign policy, not just in its misrepresentations of conditions “on the ground” in Syria, parroting Israeli propaganda, but in purposefully misconstruing relations between Hamas and Israel and Israel and ISIS.  They have everything backwards, contradicting most of even their own reporting.

    Then again, we have the “small world” issue, weapons that should not exist showing up with terrorist groups.  This time we know exactly where they came from, where every single part came from.


    Rest of article, including very clear photos, at http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/01/caught-rt-and-israel/


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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:44 am

    Dragunov is spray and pray... that is enough to tell me that article is full of it.

    The reality is there is no super weapon... this so called super weapon... suppressed and accurate to 400m sounds like a VSS suppressed sniper rifle or AS suppressed Assault Rifle... something Soviet recon units had in service in the late 1980s...

    the fact that they are the civilian versions suggests they were bought by people who did not have access to the military versions... so I would suspect Blackwater or equivalent mercenaries had them and ISIS over ran their storage bases and captured them.

    Even a moderately experienced gunsmith can make a suppressor and fit it to a rifle... and the machine gun called Dragunov has had a scope that allowed for bullet drop with range since it was introduced into service in the early 1960s.

    BTW they are a terrorist organisation who wants to kill people... why would they waste their time with such an exotic weapon with hard to get ammo, when a PKM with a 200 round belt feed is easily available and effective over a much greater range.

    No laser (ie not super accurate) but if the US couldn't care less about collateral damage why should ISIS?

    BTW the 300 Blackout is a cop-out... the fact that the magazine housing is part of the AR-15 lower means that rounds much longer than a 5.56mm cartridge just wont fit so they have to develop special rounds with very limited lengths.

    In comparison the 9 x 39mm round developed for the AS and VSS have bullets that are much heavier than the 300 blackout, which also makes them rather more effective... even the subsonic ammo for the AKM has a 193 grain bullet that travels at a similar subsonic speed, the 9 x39mm rounds have a 250 grain bullet travelling at the same subsonic speed... and is also effective to 400m... and has better performance on flak jackets, though of course they also have a 12.7 x 55mm round for well protected enemies too...


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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:59 pm

    Thanks GarryB, just what I wanted to know. I find it sad that a site supposedly operated by people with military experience can't even put out a straight article in an area that they know about, particularly as there was probably a valid point they could have made, albeit less sensationally. Their obligation to their, or their controller's, view of the world is just too strong.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:16 pm

    hi all, i was looking to see what peoples views are on the war and likely outcome? or possible outcomes, even though there has a few positives lately for the Syrian government, according to western media its still not good news for them, with rebels/terrorists and ISIS making gains against the government they are painting the picture that Assad will fall by end of the year. I agree that this year so far the Syrian government has done that well, losing a lot of ground to ISIS, and the loss of Idilib city to al Qaeda. It seems the Kurds with western backed air strikes have made the most progress lately against ISIS.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:38 pm

    Syrian Air Force destroys ISIS tank.

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    Post  Flagship Victory on Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:00 pm

    Is Syria getting Yak-130 and MiG-29M2 it ordered or are they put on hold until the situation stabilizes?

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    Post  Cucumber Khan on Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:15 pm

    Flagship Victory wrote:Is Syria getting Yak-130 and MiG-29M2 it ordered or are they put on hold until the situation stabilizes?

    On hold indefinitly. Whatever money they paid for them has long been diverted to more urgently needed supplies. As pressed as the SyAAF are for survival right now, it's unlikely they can introduce new types in service.

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    Post  Prince Darling on Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:33 pm

    Cucumber Khan wrote:
    Flagship Victory wrote:Is Syria getting Yak-130 and MiG-29M2 it ordered or are they put on hold until the situation stabilizes?

    On hold indefinitly. Whatever money they paid for them has long been diverted to more urgently needed supplies. As pressed as the SyAAF are for survival right now, it's unlikely they can introduce new types in service.

    very true, but some express plane transfers like Iraq got from Russia last year, would be very helpful.
    it goes without saying that the types of planes need to be in the arsenal already, with trained pilots available, anything else is another few years from being operational.
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    Post  Fred333 on Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:06 pm

    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/Nusra-Front-abducts-US-backed-rebel-leader-blunts-efforts-against-ISIS-410594

    The al Qaida-linked Nusra Front has abducted the leader of a US-backed rebel group in north Syria, opposition sources and a monitoring group said, in a blow to Washington's efforts to train and equip fighters to combat Islamic State.

    A statement issued in the name of the group, "Division 30", accused the Nusra Front of abducting Nadim al-Hassan and a number of his companions in a rural area north of Aleppo. It urged Nusra to release them.

    A Syrian activist and a second opposition source said most of the 54 fighters who have so far completed a US-led train and equip programmed in neighboring Turkey were from Division 30.



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    Post  Book. on Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:28 pm

    Palmyra that is the under "Islamic countries" domination is ... (15/07/31)
    Published on Jul 30, 2015

    Extremist organization "Islamic countries", in is also said to have conquered 50 percent of Syria throughout, Bashar al-Assad government rights also, virtually the whole of recapture, has been abandoned.

    http://www.fnn-news.com/news/headlines/articles/CONN00298911.html



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    Post  max steel on Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:31 am

    Al qaeda whittles down us trained rebels in syria   lol!


    http://news.antiwar.com/2015/08/04/al-qaeda-whittles-down-us-trained-rebels-in-syria/


    US-trained Syrian rebels say they won't fight al-Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra   lol!

    Division 30 signals rejection of Washington's strategy, even as US vows to step up air support to defend the group from attacks by the radical Islamist faction.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11784872/US-trained-Syrian-rebels-say-they-wont-fight-al-Qaeda-affiliate-Jabhat-al-Nusra.html
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    Post  Book. on Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:47 pm

    تواصل المعارك بين قوات النظام والمعارضة في الزبداني Fighting continues between the regime and opposition forces in Zabadani
    Published on Aug 8, 2015

    Battles continued between the forces of order and his loyalists and the opposition forces in Zabadani day 36, without being able to resolve one of the parties of the battle in his favor.



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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:36 pm

    Iranian-Brokered Truces Start in Three Syrian Towns



    Two-day cease-fires begin as Iranian foreign minister arrives in Damascus for talks with President Assad



    Syria's deputy foreign minister Faisal Muqdad (L) welcomes Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif upon his arrival at Damascus international airport on Wednesday. PHOTO: AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES


    An Iranian-brokered cease-fire between Syrian rebels and pro-regime forces went into effect in three towns Wednesday, as Tehran flexed its diplomatic muscles in a bid to establish itself as an international mediator in efforts to end the country’s civil war.

    If the 48-hour truces hold, they could herald negotiations for longer cease-fires in Zabadani, a suburb of the capital Damascus, and two towns in northwestern Idlib province.

    Iran’s diplomacy in Syria follows its landmark deal last month with the U.S. and five other Western powers to limit its nuclear program in exchange for a lifting of economic sanctions by the U.S., the United Nations and the European Union.

    In arranging the truces, Iran negotiated directly with the influential Syrian rebel faction Ahrar al-Sham, sources close to the militant group said. If confirmed, it would indicate how marginalized officials in Mr. Assad’s regime have become in efforts to wind down the war, now in its fifth year.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif arrived in Damascus Wednesday and headed straight for talks with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Mr. Zarif was in Beirut earlier in the day for a meeting with Lebanon’s defense minister.

    Iranian state media has said Tehran plans to present a plan to the United Nations to endthe Syrian conflict. The U.N. has led numerous attempts to orchestrating truces in the war, which has so far killed 250,000 people.

    Wednesday’s truce focuses on Zabadani, which sits along the highway that links Damascus and the Lebanese border.

    It has been under the control of antigovernment rebels from Ahrar al-Sham since 2012, but last month regime forces launched an offensive to retake it. To divert pressure on the town, Ahrar Al Sham and other rebel factions attacked two regime-held towns in Idlib province.

    Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shiite military and political movement that has supplied fighters to the Assad regime, said Wednesday the cease-fire deal was reached after its fighters and the Syrian army advanced to the center of Zabadani.

    Iranian-Brokered Truces Start in Three Syrian Towns - WSJ
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    Post  Fred333 on Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:38 pm

    Rumours circulating that MiG-31s have been delivered to Syria -> response to the plans for air support for vetted "moderates" by the US?
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    Post  franco on Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:46 pm

    Fred333 wrote:Rumours circulating that MiG-31s have been delivered to Syria -> response to the plans for air support for vetted "moderates" by the US?

    I saw that too! Six was the number given, we will have to wait and see.
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    Post  Book. on Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:56 pm

    استمرار الهدنة في الزبداني بريف دمشق
    - Damascus countryside Zabadani Lot of Heavy Fight Must Truce

    Published on Aug 14, 2015

    Armistice continue in the city of Zabadani Rural Damascus between Syrian opposition factions on the one hand and Hezbollah and the forces of the Syrian regime on the other hand, after a campaign by Hezbollah



    Fred333 wrote:Rumours circulating that MiG-31s have been delivered to Syria -> response to the plans for air support for vetted "moderates" by the US?

    let hope so Surprised
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    Post  Fred333 on Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:58 pm

    Book. wrote:استمرار الهدنة في الزبداني بريف دمشق
    - Damascus countryside Zabadani Lot of Heavy Fight Must Truce

    Published on Aug 14, 2015

    Armistice continue in the city of Zabadani Rural Damascus between Syrian opposition factions on the one hand and Hezbollah and the forces of the Syrian regime on the other hand, after a campaign by Hezbollah



    Fred333 wrote:Rumours circulating that MiG-31s have been delivered to Syria -> response to the plans for air support for vetted "moderates" by the US?

    let hope so Surprised

    would be interesting if true, though I wonder what deterrent a handful of interceptors manned by relatively inexperienced pilots (on that new airframe) would present in the context of an hypothetical US-SyAAF confrontation. what SAA needs right now are active armor protection packages for the remaining AFV park, ground attack aircraft and helicopters and last but certainly not least well-trained and motivated soldiers. although some good interceptors might make the IDF more cautious about launching air strikes in Syrian territory

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    Post  AK_47 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:11 am

    franco wrote:
    Fred333 wrote:Rumours circulating that MiG-31s have been delivered to Syria -> response to the plans for air support for vetted "moderates" by the US?

    I saw that too! Six was the number given, we will have to wait and see.



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