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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:00 am

    Syrian army has nothing to gain and everything to loose by using chemical weapons. There is no logic that Syrian government would sign

    their own death sentence by using chemicals and there is every logic in bandit efforts to use chemical weapons and assign the use to the

    government forces so they would get bombed which would ultimately mean bandit victory.

    It doesn't actually matter at all whether they use them or not... what matters is whether the west claims they have used them or not... don't confuse the truth with the "truth".

    Ask Saddam.

    SAA & Hezbollah have seized Al Qusair. Not a big victory really. First - it took more than two weeks of heavy fighting to take the city, with heavy casualties (Hezbollah alone lost ~100 fighters), secondly - the remaining rebel forces managed to retreat after they ran out of ammo.

    The claim they ran out of ammo sounds a little thin... couldn't they have had more ammo brought in via their escape route if that was all that was stopping them from defeating the attack?


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:28 pm

    The claim they ran out of ammo sounds a little thin... couldn't they have had more ammo brought in via their escape route if that was all that was stopping them from defeating the attack?
    It wasn't all they needed. Even at the beginning of the battle the rebels were outnumbered ca. 1:3, they lost 500 dead and 1000 wounded and at the end only 400-500 outgunned fighters remained in the city. if they kept fighting, they would all have been either killed or captured.

    Only massive influx of new forces might have turned the tide. And by massive I mean 5-6k which was impossible.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:30 am

    They probably lost over 1000 (1500 according to some reports) dead in Al Qusair....they probably lost 100-200 dead just in one incident when a large column of " technicals" was caught in the open by the Sy-AF, trying to break into the city

    GRAPHIC!


    Some FSA sheik ranting on Saudi TV...says Hezbolah killed 500 rebels in 3hrs




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    Looks like the offensive on Allepo has begun....apparently 5-6 Scuds have hit rebel held areas of the city

    Invasion of Aleppo has officially BEGUN! Assad/Hezbollah offensive to retake city about to start soon, first SCUDS fired at suburbs
    http://investmentwatchblog.com/invasion-of-aleppo-has-officially-begun-assadhezbollah-offensive-to-retake-city-about-to-start-soon-first-scuds-fired-at-suburbs/

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Viktor on Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:56 am

    - Border with Jordan was secured when that town was captured month ago (first on the only road to Damask)

    - Israel plan to oust Hesbollah as No.1 in Lebanon failed

    - Al Quisar and surrounding area is cleansed (border over Lebanon secured)

    - America is backing of

    - Britain and France cant do anything

    - Turkey is in mess

    - Only relevant factor in this game which actions remains to be seen is Israel


    I would called it - game over.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:53 am

    Viktor wrote:I would called it - game over.

    To early to say that.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:22 pm

    The rebels claim 500 killed, Assad forces claim 1200 killed, Russia say that 900 fighters died.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Viktor on Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:39 pm

    Final push for Aleppo has begun.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:48 pm

    It will be very hard to win this battle IMHO. It took more than two weeks of fighting to take a 40k city even though rebels were almost completely cut off from supplies and reinforcements. Aleppo is about 50x larger than Al Qusair so firepower advantage doesn't matter so much here.

    I am not sure if regime forces can successfully concentrate forces around Aleppo without weakening their grip on the rest of the country.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:50 am

    Agreed. Aleppo won't be easy.

    I'm guessing they will first try to cut all supply lines and squeeze the rebels into isolated pockets before launching a full fledged assault....same as at Qusair.

    The army reportedly made gains in Kafar Hamra, Haryatan, Andan, Hayyan, Sheikh Maqsood Syria, Bustan Al-Basha, Bustan Al-Qasr, and Al-Ameriya.
    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14771965/content/98742232-syrian-army-s-latest-offensive-storm-of-the-north-on-aleppo

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    Syrian forces have reportedly closed the major outlets of the city, which is located some 310 kilometers (192 miles) north of the capital, Damascus.

    The army is preparing to attack militant strongholds in the towns of Hayyan, Khirbet Andan, Tell Rifaat and A’zaz on the outskirts of Aleppo.

    The operation is code-named North Storm.
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/09/307972/syrian-army-launches-aleppo-operation/

    Here's a map with some of the locations mentioned above....Hayyan has reportedly fallen. The SAA says 28 rebels were killed there, including Chechens. Looks like they're aiming to cut them off from the Turkish border.

    Arrow http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.301292&lon=37.103233&z=12&m=b

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Zivo on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:16 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Viktor wrote:I would called it - game over.

    To early to say that.

    It seems the FSA have strategically lost in southern Syria, even if the war isn't over.

    What happens in northern Aleppo is yet to be determined and will be the endgame play.

    If the FSA get routed and pushed out THEN it's game over.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Viktor on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:59 am

    Seems that encirclement is advancing just fine. After that, real fighting will start.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  nemrod on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:07 pm

    As General Anatoliy Kornukov, Syria needs a dozen S-300 batteries to protect itself.
    See here : http://www.juancole.com/2013/06/batteries-general-denounces.html

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:58 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Viktor wrote:I would called it - game over.

    To early to say that.

    Assad has been offered credit line of 20 bin $ to rebuild Syria by UN. He refused but this is the most obvious sign that game is over.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  ricky123 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:09 am



    now why the fuk would india betray russia or assad ..

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:27 am

    ricky123 wrote:
    now why the fuk would india betray russia or assad ..


    A better question would be how the hell did India enter the picture.

    India may be a big buyer of Russian Arms, but they hold no power over Russia's political decisions as far as i am aware of.
    Not to mention that India needs those arms, thats why there buying them in the first place. No

    I believe these protesters need to focus on the Intelligence agencies that are actively supplying and training these "rebels" it may have started as a popular uprising, but now it's more of a CIA led civil war, very sad. Sad


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  TR1 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:44 am

    lol, how are Russian arms killing Syrian children?

    Stupid ass protestors.
    Russia has delivered potent systems that are 100% useless against the rebels or civilians.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:19 pm

    Typical... the west changes tack... it is to save the children... children they don't care much for when they sent in murderers and thugs to start the conflict and support with arms.

    It is like their spying systems... they are to catch drug dealers, child molesting rings, and terrorists... they need to break international law to catch these bad people. Of course the reality is that they use the information they collect for the purposes of control and coercion.

    Nothing seals a military contract like knowing who your main competitors negotiating team are having extramarital affairs... or learning the contents of their final bid so you can beat it by a small margin.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Regular on Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:42 am

    West is to busy in arming those Syrian children with Libian war leftovers.
    I would be supporting rebels if I wouldn't know that there is big number of Islamists from abroad or hidden agenda to topple Syrian government. Assad regime might be brutal and oppressing but it's 1000 times better than Sharia law of endless wars of power that will continue if rebels will win.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:53 am

    Assad is the closest thing to a moderate you can get in that region, and certainly not the brutal dictator the west is trying to portray him as.

    Most countries in the region have their own secret police that operate outside the law... Saudi Arabia being one of the worst in that respect... Assads crime is not being a dictator, but not being in the wests pocket.

    Any freedom revolution in Saudi Arabia would be ruthlessly crushed like the one in Bahrain and the west would not give it a second thought... it is opposition parties in places they hold no sway that they will support any and every opposition... and in fact create their own if needs be... yet they still believe the name America is hated around the world because we are jealous of their success...


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:09 am

    U.S to send (more) weapons to Syrian "rebels":
    http://rt.com/news/us-claims-assad-chemical-weapons-671/

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Hachimoto on Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:27 am

    Regular wrote:1000 times better than Sharia law of endless wars of power that will continue if rebels will win.

    Dude stop talking about something you don't even understand a one word from it...

    this is worst than EU media !!

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    Post  ali.a.r on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:45 am

    Dude stop talking about something you don't even understand a one word from it...

    this is worst than EU media !!

    He's right, though. I am a Muslim, and a Sunni one at that. But I have no sympathy for the Syrian opposition, or any radical Islamic movement for that matter. If you think the Syrian government is bad, wait until the Wahhabis take over.

    Also, Regular. Sharia is Islamic law. All Islamic countries follow it. Its just the degree to which it is implemented that differs. Of course, I assume you meant the strict, radical version when you said "1000 times better than Sharia law". But please note that not every Muslim country is as strict, as say, Sudan where Sharia law is implemented in full. For example, Sharia law states that the punishment for theft is amputation of the left hand. But in my country, which is what most people would call a moderate Islamic country, even if a person is convicted of theft, and proven guilt beyond any reasonable doubt, his sentence is still commuted to a prison term. Likewise, the punishment for adultery is stoning to death, but again, the sentence is changed to a prison term.

    Just thought I would try to clear things up.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:16 pm

    If you go to any Islamic discussion board and tell people that you don't support Syrian "fighters", you'll be labelled as either a covert Jew or a covert Shia. 

    Anyway, if you think that moderate Muslims do exist, find 10 Islamic scholars that:
    1. Claim that everyone can abandon Islam without being punished by their ex co-believers
    2. Claim that Muslims have no right to force their wicked superstitions upon other people, even if they constitute the vast majority of the country's population.
    3. Claim that Israel is just a normal country, neither better, nor worse than Islamic countries, and it has the same right to exist as they do.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Hachimoto on Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:37 pm

    holy crap i see that in eastern countries a total non-sense about what islam is.

    FTW

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    Post  As Sa'iqa on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:25 pm

    IF you told Saudi authorities that you don't support the rebellion in Syria, they would declare you a kaafir (unbeliever). Even western Muslims are far from tolerant (at least some of them). One Somali man was called an undercover Shia for criticizing Syrian rebels, even though he firmly stated that he is a Shafi'i Sunni Muslim.

    And remember that Islam - as opposed to Christianity - lacks a central authority. Everyone can declare that his version of Islam is the purest one and they can spread it as they wish, even with a sword. And due to lack of central authority, other, more moderate Muslims would have no strength to oppose it and if they do, they'll be slaughtered, like other "enemies of Islam" bounce

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