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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu May 30, 2013 4:58 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:I don't trust pressTV much on this issue, so can anyone confirm this. scratch

    President of Syria confirmed the S-300 arrival some Lebanese newspaper. PressTV is only distributing the story all around.

    Here is article from BBC

    Syrian president says army 'has balance of power'
    So the S-300 has entered the field, i am shocked, i thought this was going to end up the same as with Iran, anyway i hope they also ordered plenty of decoys with them, now i must ask how many Pantsirs have been delivered to Syria already?? attack

    Viktor wrote:Also what is interesting is that thousands of Slavic man are on their way to Syria. The man are former SSSR military personnel.

    The war in Syria will leave Russian-Ukrainian volunteer corps
    Dang, didn't see that one coming. Shocked

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Stealthflanker on Thu May 30, 2013 7:26 pm

    Viktor wrote:

    Also what is interesting is that thousands of Slavic man are on their way to Syria. The man are former SSSR military personnel.

    The war in Syria will leave Russian-Ukrainian volunteer corps

    Well good to see that there are those that really can use the S-300's on the way to Syria.




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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu May 30, 2013 8:12 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Viktor wrote:

    Also what is interesting is that thousands of Slavic man are on their way to Syria. The man are former SSSR military personnel.

    The war in Syria will leave Russian-Ukrainian volunteer corps

    Well good to see that there are those that really can use the S-300's on the way to Syria.
    Good point. Twisted Evil

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Regular on Fri May 31, 2013 4:25 am

    If it's money then I fully understand them. Hope they stay safe and earn good money. I know what is to be in military and get only be paid peanuts while military clerks reap all benefits and money.
    There is not much else why Russians or Ukrainians should help this failed country.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Viktor on Fri May 31, 2013 12:29 pm

    Combine use of tanks, ifv and infantry - very nice

    evolution of Syrian army tactics






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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Regular on Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:47 am

    thanks for sharing these videos. But it's painful to see their infantry tactics. I'm not even talking about FSA

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:22 am

    The SAA has improved in the last few months, but it looks like they don't have enough infantry. They appear to be relying a lot on the Shabiha, various foreign volunteers and now Hezbollah entering the fight in large numbers, to do most of the fighting (a few of their better regular brigades are the exception).

    On the S-300, I don't think they have a operational unit yet...they probably received some components only so far.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  gaurav on Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:05 am

    Viktor wrote:
    Also what is interesting is that thousands of Slavic man are on their way to Syria. The man are former SSSR military personnel.

    The war in Syria will leave Russian-Ukrainian volunteer corps

    Common this is false.. nothing like this can happen..Syrian war is not a joke..
    Casualties are order of the day..

    only those who presently in service in Spec Ops..can contribute in cities Damas, aleppo, al-raqqa etc

    The basic skills needed(from forces being send to Syria) are experts in IED,car bomb experts, booby traps, protection

    from multi sniper fire..combat tactics in/from destroyed buildings, massive stress management,protection

    from bursts of gun fire from extremely close range..(10-50 metres)..

    Ofcourse age not exceeding 30 years.. That rules out the complete veterans

    fairy tale story..

    Hence the above story is just a fairy tale and nothing much.

    The crap Ukraine should better behave properly with Kremlin and coordinate in Customs Union.. not create fairy stories like this..

    Another important skill needed is communication skills with top armour units operating critical zones(daraya, Aleppo, alraqqa, etc) in Syria..

    NO CHILDS PLAY .. this

    The only people who can change the dynamics in Syrian war are the following

    caucasus police , fsb , mvd, fskn, special forces (from MOD) etc IN-SERVICE professionals with atleast 5

    years in caucasus, chechnya can contribute in Aleppo, homs, al-raqqa etc

    otherwise it is a just a joke to send "REGULAR" Infantry .. TO DEATH FIELDS OF SYRIA
    Cool

    REGULAR ARMY WILL BE CRUSHED (INFANTRY )when atleast couple of hundred groups open fire from corners of building Cool

    Serbian war was nothing like what Syria war is since last 3 years..

    Iraq war can be compared "atleast" because length of Iraq qwar is almost 10-12 years with intermittent civil war..

    to go into that kind of environment is just fanatical..
    nothing will come out of it ..



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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  gaurav on Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:22 am


    Combine use of tanks, ifv and infantry - very nice

    evolution of Syrian army tactics

    VIctor.. You made my day.. thumbsup

    This reminds me of "Platoon" , seven oscar award winner..
    from Oliver Stone.. great war movie director.. Charlie sheen lead actor..

    Well Done Victor , Well done keep it up..

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    Post  Regular on Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:32 pm

    gaurav wrote:

    The basic skills needed(from forces being send to Syria) are experts in IED,car bomb experts, booby traps, protection

    from multi sniper fire..combat tactics in/from destroyed buildings, massive stress management,protection

    from bursts of gun fire from extremely close range..(10-50 metres)..

    Ofcourse age not exceeding 30 years.. That rules out the complete veterans

    fairy tale story..

    Sorry, but show me IED expert that is younger than 30 years. I wouldn't call him an EXPERT.

    Hence the above story is just a fairy tale and nothing much.
    Fairy tale in some extends, like number of people and that Russian navy will help them by bringing troops to Syria.
    The crap Ukraine should better behave properly with Kremlin and coordinate in Customs Union.. not create fairy stories like this..
    So this guy is representive of whole Ukraine? Kremlin is not behaving perfectly too when it comes to relations, it takes two to tango.

    Another important skill needed is communication skills with top armour units operating critical zones(daraya, Aleppo, alraqqa, etc) in Syria..
    You got this spot on. Or tanks could be manned by Russians/Ukrainians. Chechen war veterans tank crews could properly show how to utilise armour.
    NO CHILDS PLAY .. this
    Compare FSA to Chechen insurgents - they are children. FSA could only cause some problems for Russian security forces, conventional army would wipe them of map quickly.

    The only people who can change the dynamics in Syrian war are the following

    caucasus police , fsb , mvd, fskn, special forces (from MOD) etc IN-SERVICE professionals with atleast 5

    years in caucasus, chechnya can contribute in Aleppo, homs, al-raqqa etc
    With the money Russia pays them I really doubt they would risk their lives far away from their homeland.


    otherwise it is a just a joke to send "REGULAR" Infantry .. TO DEATH FIELDS OF SYRIA Cool
    You are overestimating FSA and downplaying infantry. Look at Serbian infantry that fought against superior numbers of Albanians. FSA are untrained monkeys that are not even close to being serious combatants. Look at their videos and their tactics. They fail all the time. How many videos of them failing and killing each other are not posted because of propaganda? Can You imagine how many friendly fire incidents those idiots have?

    REGULAR ARMY WILL BE CRUSHED (INFANTRY )when atleast couple of hundred groups open fire from corners of building Cool
    Ask Russians how to deal with it. Moving by sectors, securing them was good way. Not thunder runs Syria army does. They fail to gain ground. Russians used armour behind infantry with radio communications with squads, they were far from being engaged by anti tank weapons and only 1 Russian tank was lost in all war. Russians were outnumbered but managed to take control eventually by using superior tactics and fire-power. But I doubt Syrian army posses such capability of organisation and probably volunteers wouldn't form and functioning army.

    Serbian war was nothing like what Syria war is since last 3 years..
    What a undeducated statement. Why You think in that way???

    Iraq war can be compared "atleast" because length of Iraq qwar is almost 10-12 years with intermittent civil war..
    Because of length? Iraq war had two stages - conventional and insurgency. Conventional war was ended quickly by superior power, insurgency war totally different as US didn't have to face deflectors joining insurgents, they completely controlled sky, intelligence and could operate effectively with UNLIMITED support with supplies, manpower from their own country that wasn't affected.
    to go into that kind of environment is just fanatical..
    nothing will come out of it ..
    Better than die being poor. Those people will take risks not because of being fanatics, their mind is not faded by fanaticism, they would not shed tear about collateral damage or because of future of Syria. They would be motivated to win and they won't deflect or run away.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Regular on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:57 pm


    Wow what an explosion! Remember tow commercial when tank used there was rigged with explosions? What atgm was that, Kornet?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  TR1 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:04 am

    Tank was probably loaded with all HE due to the nature of the fighting.

    Easily penetratable flanks of legacy tank + penetration + shiton of HE = boom

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  Austin on Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:56 am

    Sad to see West support the rebels and known AL Quida faction in this , chances are few years from now they would be biting the hands that fed them.

    The more the thing changes the more it remains the same.


    The tank explosion was huge , HE , RIP to Tank crews

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:28 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Wow what an explosion! Remember tow commercial when tank used there was rigged with explosions? What atgm was that, Kornet?
    It's Konkurs .

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  SOC on Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:27 pm

    France says testing confirms that somebody used sarin but they won't say who did it:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22773268

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    Post  TR1 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:24 pm

    http://www.armstass.su/?page=article&aid=118776&cid=25

    Putin -S-300 NOT delivered to Syria.

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    Post  TR1 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:48 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9SmLK2pZwg&feature=player_embedded

    6:30 - RPG hits K-1 on T-72 turret.
    Predictable result.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:59 am

    Should have known. Suspect

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:53 am

    France says testing confirms that somebody used sarin but they won't say who did it:

    Which of course means it was the rebels that used it...



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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  SOC on Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:07 am

    They later said "it was Assad and regime loyalists". I thought it would've been more ironic if it turned out that both sides were doing it. Who we supposed to bomb then? dunno

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:34 pm

    SOC wrote:They later said "it was Assad and regime loyalists". I thought it would've been more ironic if it turned out that both sides were doing it. Who we supposed to bomb then? dunno
    Good news, Sarin gas found with Rebels in Turkey.

    http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/

    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-316966-report-police-foil-al-nusra-bomb-attack-planned-for-adana.html

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    Post  Viktor on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:59 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    SOC wrote:They later said "it was Assad and regime loyalists". I thought it would've been more ironic if it turned out that both sides were doing it. Who we supposed to bomb then? dunno
    Good news, Sarin gas found with Rebels in Turkey.

    http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/

    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-316966-report-police-foil-al-nusra-bomb-attack-planned-for-adana.html

    And it was reported few days ago that Iraq security forces destroyed islamist stronghold where they found chemicals production plant.

    Iraq breaks up al Qaeda chemical weapons cell

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/06/iraq_breaks_up_al_qa.php#ixzz2VLW0H0Ob

    Iraq says captures al Qaeda chemical gas team

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/06/02/iraq-violence-chemicals-idINDEE95006020130602



    Syrian army has nothing to gain and everything to loose by using chemical weapons. There is no logic that Syrian government would sign

    their own death sentence by using chemicals and there is every logic in bandit efforts to use chemical weapons and assign the use to the

    government forces so they would get bombed which would ultimately mean bandit victory.

    And one interesting youtube clip


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    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:17 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    SOC wrote:They later said "it was Assad and regime loyalists". I thought it would've been more ironic if it turned out that both sides were doing it. Who we supposed to bomb then? dunno
    Good news, Sarin gas found with Rebels in Turkey.

    http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/

    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-316966-report-police-foil-al-nusra-bomb-attack-planned-for-adana.html

    And it was reported few days ago that Iraq security forces destroyed islamist stronghold where they found chemicals production plant.

    Iraq breaks up al Qaeda chemical weapons cell

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/06/iraq_breaks_up_al_qa.php#ixzz2VLW0H0Ob

    Iraq says captures al Qaeda chemical gas team

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/06/02/iraq-violence-chemicals-idINDEE95006020130602



    Syrian army has nothing to gain and everything to loose by using chemical weapons. There is no logic that Syrian government would sign

    their own death sentence by using chemicals and there is every logic in bandit efforts to use chemical weapons and assign the use to the

    government forces so they would get bombed which would ultimately mean bandit victory.
    Thanks for the heads up, for a second there i thought a foreign power was supplying the Rebels(Terrorist) with Chemical weapons. thumbsup

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:50 pm

    SAA & Hezbollah have seized Al Qusair. Not a big victory really. First - it took more than two weeks of heavy fighting to take the city, with heavy casualties (Hezbollah alone lost ~100 fighters), secondly - the remaining rebel forces managed to retreat after they ran out of ammo.

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    Post  ahmedfire on Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:12 pm

    As Sa'iqa wrote:SAA & Hezbollah have seized Al Qusair. Not a big victory really. First - it took more than two weeks of heavy fighting to take the city, with heavy casualties (Hezbollah alone lost ~100 fighters), secondly - the remaining rebel forces managed to retreat after they ran out of ammo.

    Syria conflict: Qusair's strategic importance

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