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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  andalusia on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:37 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    kvs wrote:

    WADA is Uncle Scumbag's anti-Russian tool.    Dick Pound and the rest of the clowns running this outfit need to be
    purged.


    Is called Influence...  
    Americans leadership in the world ,their business and economic power influence WADA ,IOC ,UN
    and to sabotage Russia sport. and manage to force Europe hand to sanction Russia.
    This is consequences of Russia catastrophic failure in the world , in influencing the most developed
    nations in the world that controls international laws.

    So Putin makes it easier for Americans to humiliate Russia..  because he develops Russia
    economy as if it was a banana african third world nation with nukes.

    This world nations like in africa,Cuba ,Venezuela,middle east.. Focus their economy ,their business in
    Energy ,Mining ,and guess what? Sports.. Just like Russia. So Putin vision of Russia is wrong..
    is focusing in primitive easy business ,that even third world nations can make.. allowing
    the west to take the leadership role in business that guides the planet into the future.  No



    Putin: Russia still a world leader in sport despite Olympics situation


    https://www.rt.com/sport/418146-putin-russia-remains-world-sports-leader/

    So Putin is proud about sports , in what way sports makes Russia an important nation in the world?
    No

    in what way winning many medals makes Russia a more developed nation? Cuba also used to win many
    medals in sports too..  only failure nations with failure leadership ,third world nations focus a lot their budget in sports.
    and commodities.. Because the most primitive nations in the world ,don't know what else to do..other that to sell
    what mother nature produce.

    Ohh.. Putin is also proud of Russia being the biggest world exporter of wheat.   pirat

    Did you understand Putin problem? He is the problem , he does not know how to counter American
    influence in the world.. So this is why he gets sanctions.. because is not leading Russia into a position
    of world leadership.. instead ,is guiding Russia into becoming a punching bag of the Americans.. a banana republic.
    a Sorry nation.  Americans have to be laughing their asses ,how they so easily humiliates Russia.
    And all this is consequences of Putin ,incompetence ,lack of vision for RUssia development  , lack of leadership ,lack of influence in the world. Is nor sports where Putin needs to promote their nation.. but in science and technology ,and in a modern innovative economy instead. An economy based on exporting modern technology and not in bananas
    gas and sports.

    Don't you understand , that the only reason Russia can be sanctioned ,is because it lacks of influence and leadership
    in the world?  Neutral   Why Russia cannot sanction Americans and humiliate them back ?  because Nobody follows Russia
    other than rejected third world nations.. like North korea o IRAN.. to name a few.  So Americans can start sanctions
    blaming Russia for the extinction of dinosaurs and most of the developed world ,who depends on Americans blessing and good relations will follow it.

    So you can complain all you want ,that the west is unfair.. that they should not do that.. but we don't live
    in a fair world. Tyranny rules the world.. and Putin is only helping the west to continue its abuse of power
    by allowing the west to continue dominate in everything ,and leading in all ,while Russia refuse to compete
    or offer an alternative to the US corrupt system .

    Russia have scientist that build amazing things , but the government don't take advantage of it .
    Do not promote international business with it.  They had a Yotaphone and allowed the business to
    be sold to China... So good job for China..  Laughing  


    The most amusing thing , the more ironic thing , is that even the Americans , have feel sorry for Russia
    and have been telling Putin what he is doing wrong.. Obama was joking ,about Russia, saying Russia is a gas station..
    What does Russia make?  told Obama.. Of course.. he knows Russia makes rockets ,build nuclear reactors and have good scientist..and a strong military and combat jets.. but What Obama really mean ,was is that Russia contributes in nothing in the development of the planet. Because Russia economy is not a nation that its economy focus in
    the export of technology  Contrary to US ,Japan ,and Europe ,that leads the world development
    into the future. and even now China is exporting modern technology in major scale.. so also doing
    a major contribution.

    Putin Dumb strategy is just to build a strong military and big nukes... and then be polite ,respectful in diplomacy with americans and then offer them lucrative business in Russia for peace.  His tactics with Turkey will not with Americans..
    because US runs a world empire , that is already setup and is only consolidating its power to Absolute domination ,and only Russia and China step in the middle. Since Every other country (like India,IRAN ,Cuba,Venezuela) are not a treat to US or NATO global takeover ,because they influence nothing in the world. they can be either wiped easily with their military or with a civil revolution.  

    So Putin what he is doing is only waiting for Americans to get tired of punching his face.. that is not a strategy.
    but a policy of cowards. Putin needs to fight Back.. Americans have declared war on Russia and Putin needs to FIGHT.
    and stop pretending there is no war and everything is good. He can do it with their military, but also he can do it by creating an alternative system to the American world.. To break US influence in the world. which is what he should do. But he refuse to do.. Simply because he either have no idea of what he is doing or perhaps he have a major low morale/leadership problem ,that don't think Russia have the capabilities to become an alternative to US. and is afraid to take major Risk with his economy.. like a new space race will be .or a technology industrial race ,to lead the world with Business, that takes the world into the future.  Putins follow the American corrupt system and still have the face
    later to complain ,that he don't like it.  The solution is not to BEG the corrupt IOC to help Russia compete in the olympics.. The Solution is that Putin takes seriously Russia independence.  A real Independence is what Russia need.
    Total nation Freedom is what will come when Russia become totally independent of the AMerican system. But promoting Bananas business or wasting Russia budget in meaningless Olympics and allowing US to take the lead
    in Space and steal the show in every innovative future looking business . only helps the west to continue punching
    Russia face even more and continue trying to collapse it through sanctions and economic sabotage.

    Vann7 I agree with much of what you have written here and in your previous post 343 also. It would be good if Russia did what you said along with China. The rest of the world would greatly benefit from a viable alternative to the corrupt US world order. By living here in the US and knowing the American cultural and political mentality and personality; the Americans will NEVER change. US influence in the world needs to be countered and the only country that can do that is Russia in partnership with China.

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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  Vann7 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:22 pm

    [quote="andalusia"][quote="Vann7"]
    kvs wrote:

    Vann7 I agree with much of what you have written here and in your previous post 343 also.  It would be good if Russia did what you said along with China.  The rest of the world would greatly benefit from a viable alternative to the corrupt US world order.  By living here in the US and knowing the American cultural and political mentality and personality; the Americans will NEVER change.   US influence in the world needs to be countered and the only country that can do that is Russia in partnership with China.  


    Indeed. Putin strategy will never work... NEVER.. he does not influence Americans , neither Influence
    Europe aside that with Cheap Gas discounts. And to make things even worse , he even praise US as the
    only super power and begged American companies in ST petersburg to help Him ,restore relations with
    America. If Putin shows weakness ,his enemies will only double down on their aggression. Unfortunately
    nobody near Putin explain this to him. No

    Just imagine someone give you transportation to your job , because you don't have a car , and then
    during the trip ,you complain about the car , that you don't like it.. that you don't like how he drive ,
    that you are upset about the travel route he picked.. etc etc..  then the driver will tell him.. them
    fine ,if you don't like my car , or how i drive.. then get your own FUCKING CAR.. and never ask again for transportation.


    So this is very similar to what Putin is doing.. he complains about the corrupt system created by Americans..
    but he does NOTHING to offer an alternative to it.. Putin don't create his own System ,his own world ,then Putin expect the west to change its hostilities.. just because Russia build a powerful army and modernize their nukes and then say please.  No  So what the west do is change the tactics.. Instead of fighting
    Russia directly with its military.. US fight Russia through economic sabotage ,through sactions ,to financing euromaidans in Russia and in any economic zone important for Russia as is Ukraine ,but also financing and arming
    of terrorism.    

    Russia,India and China ,BRICS countries united , can create this alternative to the US system..
    But to focus only in loans for roads and infrastructure is not going to do it.. they need a
    military /scientific alliance To create a new world. And a lot of diplomacy will be need so that India and China
    can solve their territorial issues.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:02 pm

    Short-track speed-skater brings first medal to team of Olympic Athletes from Russia

    Semion Elistratov won the bronze medal at a distance of 1,500m

    PYEONGCHANG /South Korea/, February 10. /TASS/. Russia’s short-track speed-skater Semion Elistratov won the bronze medal at a distance of 1,500m at the Olympic Games in South Korea’s PyeongChang.

    He brought the first medal to the team of Olympic Athletes from Russia. Semion’s result is 2 minutes 10.687 seconds.

    Elistratov, who is 27, has won the first Olympic medal in individual distance.
    The Olympic Games in PyeongChang will continue to February 25.


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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:22 pm


    While I am skipping on the whole ''olympic'' clown-show (skeleton is free to watch on YouTube anyway...) I do take great pleasure in watching usual jerkoffs completely lose their shit after failing to shame Russian athletes and fans.

    And best of all it looks like OAR acronym (Olympic Athlete from Russia) is becoming badge of honor instead of scarlet letter it was intended to be. They are even making merchandise based on it already . Very Happy

    Snowflake are melting again. Did they really think that banning Russian flag will make athletes and fans forget where they came from?


    #RussiaInMyHeart: How Russia's Olympic fans are making a mockery of the IOC

    https://sports.yahoo.com/russiainmyheart-russias-olympic-fans-making-mockery-ioc-083658740.html

    GANGNEUNG, South Korea –From the packed rows of Section G1 here at the Gangneung Ice Arena, one of the most familiar chants of Winter Olympics past repeatedly rang out Sunday.

    “Ruse-i-AH. Ruse-i-AH”

    Russia. Russia.

    Officially, Russia isn’t here. The nation was banned by the International Olympic Committee in response to a wild, systematic doping and sample tampering operation at the 2014 Sochi Games that it hosted.

    The IOC, however, did allow 168 Russian athletes to compete here. They were freed because there wasn’t credible-enough proof they individually doped. That was occasionally true because the samples were already destroyed by the Russians.

    Regardless, it has created a bizarre and, at times, unbelievable mess, where there technically are no Russian Olympians. Yet everywhere you look, there’s what the IOC has dubbed “Olympic Athletes from Russia” competing with their usual brilliance.

    Here at the team figure-skating event, the Olympic Athletes from Russia are in second place behind Canada and ahead of the United States going into Monday’s medal round.

    The Olympic Athletes from Russia were, however, the unquestioned No. 1 in fan support here, where hundreds of their countrymen donned Russian flags, Russian colors and even T-shirts with a particular anti-IOC statement: “Russia In My Heart.”

    “Huge support,” said Russian ice dancer Ekaterina Bobrova. “Our citizens, you could see them in different spots of the stadium, entire slots, they were signing their songs in Russian, waving flags. We felt as if we were at home.”

    If the IOC meant to humiliate Russia, it’s mostly backfired, at least here on the ground. Instead, the Russians are here – and impossible to ignore – aiming instead to humiliate the IOC one song, one chant, one winning performance at a time.


    “You can stop Russia from being here, but you can’t stop the Russians from being here,” said Evgeni Kichigin, who traveled to the Games from St. Petersburg and wore a Russian flag as a shirt on Sunday.

    All over the first couple days of the Games, Russia has punched back – and shown the folly of the IOC expecting a split verdict (no Russia, lots of Olympic Athletes from Russia) to actually work. The IOC should have known it’s either one or the other. Russia is here or it’s not.

    Instead, you get scenes like Sunday, entire sections of the stadium waving flags and chanting pro-Russia slogans. A large group organized themselves across three rows, wearing printed T-shirts to spell out “Russia in My Heart,” so no one could miss it. The phrase adorns stickers, signs and has become a social media rallying cry for those who didn’t come but are cheering on from back home. Other Russians walk around and put a finger to their lips in a mocking “be quiet” sign, like their presence is all a secret.

    If you understood Russians, this was predictable.

    Regardless of the overwhelming facts of the case, when backed into a corner, Russia was going to come out swinging.
    It was never going to quietly accept a full ban from the Winter Games. If you count its various itineration (Soviet Union, Unified Team, Russia), it entered these games with more medals (336) and more golds (134) than any other country.

    “When they first announced they wouldn’t let us do what usually we do, I had the impression that when we come to the Olympics the support will be twice as much as usual,” Bobrova said.

    The Olympic Athletes from Russia have coaches and support staff, many of whom usually work for the Russian Olympic Committee, which adds to the farce. Their uniform colors are the familiar red, white and blue, just slightly different shades from the official Russian colors. While they marched into the games under an Olympic flag, the IOC has already said they may lift the ban on the final day and allow the Russian flag to fly at Closing Ceremonies.

    If an Olympic Athlete from Russia wins gold, the IOC won’t play the Russian national anthem from the medal podium.

    Russian fans said it won’t matter. They’ll sing it so loud no one will be able to miss a word in a scene that promises to be even more attention-grabbing than usual.

    It’ll be one IOC humbling after the next.

    “We need to be here now,” said Roman Bykov, of Moscow. “We have to support our athletes and our country. Our sportsman are heroes to just compete in this situation. This is even more difficult.”


    Many Russians disagree with the IOC verdict. This despite admissions from numerous individuals who carried out the scheme. It included not just doping, but constructing an entire building next to the Sochi testing lab so that after-hours dirty samples could be slipped out and clean ones slipped in via a hole in the wall. After the scandal was uncovered, two high-level authorities who were said to be involved mysteriously turned up dead.

    Russian media has taken the ruling as fake news and evidence of the world being anti-Russian.

    No matter the facts, fans argue, when you consider the history of performance-enhancing drugs in just about every other nation, who cares? Why punish Russia so harshly?

    “State-sponsored system?” said Bykov as he stood by his friend, Dmitrii Burkurov, who nodded in agreement. “We don’t believe.”

    What they believe is the IOC’s corruption. That and the heart of the Russian athletes. So here they are, full of Russian pride, singing Russian songs, wearing as much Russian gear as they can drape over their frames.

    They’re making a mockery of the weak-kneed IOC and turning the Olympics, even conservative figure skating, into a Russian pep rally.


    “It’s great,” pairs skater Alexander Enbert said with a smile.

    “Absolutely huge,” Bobrova, the ice dancer, echoed.

    Ruse-i-AH. Ruse-i-AH.

    And just wait until men’s hockey takes the ice.

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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:29 pm

    more interesting information..
    Everyone knows how Putins promotes a lot "healthy life" ,
    "healthy sports."

    Don't take my word about it.. my criticism of Putin ignorance ,
    about how unhealthy are sports.. and dangerous is sports..
    take the word of RT documentary.. Sports are not healthy in any fucking way.
    People get lifetime injuries or even die in Olympics trying to get first place and a  medal.
    Youth very early in life getting broken arms and legs.. Good Job for Putin. Rolling Eyes



    If Putin was educated and not a complete ignorant ,he will NOT be promoting
    any sports in Russia.. ZERO..  Going to the gym and exercises.. or running bike ,yes..
    education yes and day light exercises for health yes.... but epenis competition for medals no.
    Only promotes Ethnic Superiority of one nation over another.. this is what Sports promotes..
    divisions ,radical nationalism ,racism and lifetime injuries or even people lives too and for nothing.

    Sports are only good for skilled people who wants to make easy money... good for them.
    but any Government role should be to promote education and science. and to take care of health.
    and not to push your body to its limits and beyond.. that is what sports really do. It will make
    people get lifetime injures for bragging rights ,of a nation .about a totally meaningless competition.
    that in no way makes the nation more advanced or developed.

    Russian gets an arm or leg broken for money and to give a stupid medal to their president.



    The "wise President" should be told ,that Russians get lifetime injuries ,or even get killed..
    only because money and to try to proof how worthy their nation is to the world in a
    total meaningless competition. that does really do a difference at all in their nation.
    Judo is not healthy , Ultimate fighting that Putin promotes is not healthy.. people die there..
    Olympics is NOT healthy.people get serious injures very early in life for nothing .

    Now this doesn't means that sports should be banned... There will be always people
    that like easy shortcuts ,for fame and money , but that the government should stay away
    from sports.. 100%.. and give private business to take care of it..
    Instead Putin should promote education and science which is what really matters and will really
    help the country to move forward..
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  George1 on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:20 am

    Red Machine smashed the Germans in Ice hockey olympic final. This is th first gold for Russia ice hockey team in olympics after 1992!!

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    Post  Godric on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:44 am

    Russia beating the Germany in the final it only goes to prove an old adage that Germans always fair badly against Russia in the Winter cheers
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:07 am

    The 2 Russian Olympic gold medal in Pyeongchang russia

    Alina Zagitova - Figures Skating Ladies' singles


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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:36 am

    Decision on Russian Olympic membership may be made in early March — IOC panel head

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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:24 am

    It looks like sports that Putin "the Genius" promotes are not so healthy at all..



    https://www.rt.com/sport/421118-medvedeva-out-world-championships-injury/

    Alina Zagitova the Gold medalist have gotten major injuries too skating,when she was younger
    and she is only 15.  No

    Injuries and winning medals goes hand to hand. The pressure they get to win
    ,force them to abuse of their bodies and even take drugs. Hundreds of Russian athletes
    using Meldoniun for respiratory issues ?  give me a F#$% break.  So if this the kind of Nation Putin wants
    to promote ? a Nation of disable people?  

    Who will have though ,that Olympics pressure is so high,that promotes people to get
    injuries ,sometimes life time injuries ,in the name of a stupid medal for Putin?????

    If Putin "the genius" ,when came to power in 2000 , promoted  Science and Education , as much he now does
    with sports..that is people to use their brains and not their bodies for a meaningless entertainment. they will have long time already achieved their technology independence from the rest of the world ,in their civilian industrial business where Russia is very weak since export nothing of value for the average citizens of the world.


    One thing is the Promotion of Physical exercises and gym for health and another is pressure people to win
    a medal at the expense of their health. Which is what Putin "the Genius" is doing.
    Russia should stop promoting olympics ,leave that for the lazy olygarchs who never invest in Russia and all they do
    is spend their money in luxuries abroad,and the government focus in more meaningful nation Development..
    Promotion since young age of Music ,acting , Promote ART , Architecture , Science ,mathematics ,technology and Physics.. any achievements in those areas ,will not be limited to a few weeks of meaningless glory like it is Olympics .but it could last centuries ,if not more ,look at the Pyramids  and it will even transform the planet and make lives of people better. and this are the things that will make Russia Great again.. or even better nation. And leading in where it really matters is what will help Russia influence the developed world and disband NATO, to join Russia orbit and not the west.. and make Russia great again as it was ,when it was the clear leaders of space race.

    There are calls by UK and US to ban Russia from FIFA.. it will be truly embarrassing if Russia banned from it and
    humiliated after they spend so much money on that.. But if they do this ,it will be a huge mistake.. for them ,
    because will be forcing Putin ,to realize how incredibly FOOL ,he have been for wasting so much money in sports..
    when he can spend them elsewhere.. in Things that cannot be banned for being so valuable for the world
    development and that they respect.

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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  kvs on Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:05 pm

    Go bleat your hate on NATO fora, troll.

    Everything in your "theory" can be applied to western countries and their sports programs.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:59 pm

    But it is only Russia that wastes money on sports...



    I suspect Vann was a fat kid that got picked last for every sport at school so he hates it... and if he hates it then it must be Putins fault obviously.

    I would be actually worried if Vann said Putin actually did something right...

    What you have to realise is Vann is basically like the western media... in the 1990s they pretty much forgot about Russia... which is of course bad for Russia... not because western media attention is good for Russia but because things in Russia were so bad they could be ignored.

    Today however Russia is getting better and stronger and the west is taking notice because it is because of putin that they are getting better and stronger.

    As long as they demonise Putin I know he is doing right by Russia, though to be honest with all these claims he is evil, I would like to see him actually behave in a counter way to the west just because he can and not because it is in Russian interests to do so.

    Of course that is the problem... Putin is acting in the interests of Russia... if the west had any brains they would adapt their foreign policy so that they don't act only in their own interests and take russian interests into account too.. if they did he could easily and probably happily accommodate them... but the reality is they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves... so when he acts in Russias interests it is always against western interests...
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  George1 on Wed May 23, 2018 1:32 am

    Olympic champion Gorshkov reelected as president of Russian Figure Skating Federation

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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  Vann7 on Sun May 27, 2018 7:23 am

    More on Russia sports news..  Laughing

    slapping championships..  lol1



    The Government is the one responsible to influence its society behavior and values..
    into constructive activities not destructive ones that injure people .Only people with nothing in their brains will consider valuable to waste their time
    winning a contest of Slapping someone else face that could cause them lose their eyes of sensitive in their faces.
    .. No  this is how i see Putin's sports addiction with promoting useless judo and olympics . A Total waste of money and time For the government.. that  is.


    Almost every other sports. Whethere is baseball or basketball or an drinking beer contest , or
    eating cheese burgers.. the entire thing is totally meaningless for Russia as a nation.. Sports
    contribute in almost no way ,shape or form ,the leadership and influence of Russia in  the world.
    Cuba use to win many medals in sports but is a third world nation... the only way sports contribute
    to Russia is tourism.. but a leading nation should not base its economy in tourism.. any third world nation
    in Africa can do tourism too.

    The real olympics that matters are contest that promotes Scientific inventions of society ,promotes a better quality
    of life , new Forms of Art or Music.. things that truly inspire society  , to be better ,not worse. .that makes Russia safer and more powerful or that helps project Russia lead and inspire the culture of other nations in the world.
    This is what Putin's needs to promote,, Intelligence and not "healthy activities" as he call it.. but that had nothing
    to do with healthyness.. people get lifetime injuries or get killed in olympic sports.


    I see no difference between an eating cheeseburger contest or Putin's Hockey , totally meaningless both activities.
    Who cares ???? or swimming this are all MEANINGLESS activities that in no way ,will make you a better citizen other than earn easy money. Sports only value is that it helps Rich people to sell products (adversing) and Tourism.
    but is meaningless entertainment  ,. Russia can win all the gold medals in all contest in all sports for a thousand of years.. and will still be disrespected nation by the west and humiliated by sanctions .
    Not country not taken seriously.. But lets see what will happen if Russia start LEADING for real in the world.. in things no other nation can do for being too far from their development capabilities.. and becoming
    a competition to American most popular business... lets see what will happen if Russia start winning in Space ,
    winning in innovative modern business and start leading world development.. thats when Russia will capture the attention of the west. A landing in the moon with humans 1 day ,will have far more prestige ,that winning the gold medals for all the olympics for a thousand of years.  Is the things that nobody can do..or never have done before that advance the development of the world. the ones that really matter. Putin is wrong in promoting sports.. he should be promoting Education instead , promoting Science and technology , Promoting Russia as as alternative to the US.. with Innovative business ... and not with meaningless sports..



    Go bleat your hate on NATO fora, troll.

    Everything in your "theory" can be applied to western countries and their sports programs.


    Indeed Olympic Sports (not recreational for entertainment purpose only)  is a waste too for the west too.. But they have LEADERSHIP and Russia not.. thats the point.. Russia economy is limited.. so it can't afford to waste not even 1 ruble in meaningless things.. Americans..  they can print money ,so they can do sports or anything because they have leadership and Russia not..  Im not against people to practice sports (entertainment) if thats what they want.. Im not promoting the banning of sports..  Sometimes they can be interesting to watch sports for some time.. But the Russian Government SHOULD NOT be using its budget to win meaningless Epenis contest..in sports..  Russia spend a fortune in hosting meaningless Olympics, meaningless victory parades with tanks that they never use... meaningless deterrence that does not work.. Russia is beaten left and right in Syria ,slapped in the face.. their pilots killed.. those victories parades does not give not even 1 inch of respect to Russia.  Russia is one of the most disrespected nation in the world.. the laughing stock in the world.. how US and Israel bombs Russia day and night in Syria without caring about Russian lives..  and bomb Russia allies and Putin is to blame for that... His Short sight vision of Russia development is to blame for it..  When you have a naive President that cut its space budget in half and even cut its military spending ,but then increase the spending in Meaningless Sports.. then there is a problem.

    So because Russia don't have leadership ,Is not seen as a leader in the world , that could counter US effectively..
    then this is why Russia is always alone in any conflict. Not even Belarus ,or India or CHina comes to the aid of Russia when the clueless President Putin ask for help to the world for the fight against ISIS..  The message Putin sends to the world.. is that if your nation is doomed ,if Americans put it on the hit list.. because Russia is weak ,and cannot properly defend them. If in the other hand , Russia had a very powerful civilian Business power,, in building things everyone love and likes.. then that will be a major tool ,to influence those nations seeking to destroy Russia.
    Russia should simply privatize all their sports ,let the lazy Russian billionaires take control of  Russia sports.. and Government budget that is way more limited.. focused in the things that really matters for society.

    So let them have their stupid sports.. but not a single Ruble from the government ,invested in that..
    Russia government instead should be promoting Education , Science ,technology ,Art etc,, all those things
    that makes for real a nation a leader in the world.  Russia historically have been a shadow of Europe ,
    Peter the great had to travel to Europe to know how more developed nations do things.. Russian museums are
    collections of European Art , NOT RUSSIAN art.  but italian ,french ,british and German art.. Why Russia don't break with the inferiority complex for once.. and Re-invent itself ? Is a great idea to display all the great castles that
    Russia had from the past.. but they should not stay there in the past.. need to reinvent themselves , So that in the future 100 to 300 years .. they will be showing not the European art , but instead the Russian art.. the Russian culture , the Russian music ,and Russian exploration and discoveries in space..  instead of meaningless medals
    for a contest of hitting a stupid ball  ,that means nothing at all .in no way helps Russia nation development , the success and medals in any sports..

    Putin is like a major Contradiction.. he saved without a doubt Russia in the 90s ,and managed to avoid
    a world war 3 , but at the same time ,he is  humiliating Russia image in the world as a powerless nation.  
    and he is creating a retarded Policy ,that Encourage its enemies to slap Russia face more and more.. nobody respect Russia and this is Putin's to blame for this.  IF Putin was a leader with Vision of a Russia leading the world..
    then none of this conflicts Russia face today will be happening.. Americans will not be in Syria ,if Russia did not depend on energy its economy.. and  Ukraine civil war ,Euromaidan will have never happened ,if Russia was
    a leader in the world in nation development..  So by Putin Ignoring Americans leadership in the world and not
    offering any competition to their top Business , then Putin have allowed US to take more control of the world .
    Europe will never be on the american side , if they saw that Russia is a superior developed nation.. is as simple as that.  and if Russia was landing on mars with humans , Americans will be fighting not to destroy Russia ,but to become CLOSER to Russia.. understand ? Is an Influence problem ,what Russia have.. Neither Fight Americans with weapons , neither counter them with Business. No  this is so depressing , because i know Russia have everything
    to lead the world. very good scientist . but Putin backwards thinking and lack of vision is what holds Russia back.
    and miss million of opportunities for not investing in things that really matter. for not promoting the things that
    really are important..  The west also commit mistakes.. their endless Greed for example is making them to lose influence and leadership in the world. But Putin should not rely in the west making mistakes to gain popularity.
    Russia needs to lead in world development is as simple as that..and im not speaking about military hardware.

    The only physical activities that are healthy are non competitive exercises.. walking , running bike..all that is great.
    going to the gym too.. sports of recreation is all great.. but as a career is pointless ,and wasted talent from the point of view of A government. for people is obvious easy money..but is not good for a nation development. that will benefit a million times more from a successful scientist.. than from a successful hockey gold medalist.

    The only real competition that really matters is ---> NATION DEVELOPMENT.. thats the sports that matters..
    how educated ,intelligent and creative is your society. where is the intelligence in slapping the face of someone else? where is the creativity promoted in hockey?  in what way olympics promotes Bullshit Putin "healthy life" ?
    Olympics , is competition under pressure that people gets life injuries ,only to beat someone else..in a meaningless contest.

    With the money Russia invested in BULLSHIT olympics.. Sochi $52B , $FIFA 11B ,a fast Train to China $250B.
    with such abysmal waste of money , that is more than $300 billions dollars !!! will have been enough for Russia
    exploration of space and colonization ,creating millions of jobs in the space industry and/ or  for investing in Russia total independence from American internet and semiconductor industry. Things that will have allowed Russia to
    promote its leadership in the world away of US.

    For Americans ,actually it will be a really tremendous good idea to promote Sports as if it was religion
    IN RUSSIA. . Because the more money Putin the short sight President in Sport.. the less money Russia will have to modernize its military ,to build more Submarines ,Combat planes etc.. to make Russia military stronger to counter US ,and the less money for Russia space program. is no surprise why The Olympic Comitee is increasing
    the number every year of sports activities.. that means MORE MONEY will be need to sponsor your nation in any Olympics.. financing the training of your athletes. When people do a step back..and look more carefully what Competitive Sports ,International olympics ,winter or summer or fall olympics.. Is in reality a nationalist, international pissing contest. That promotes my ethnic groups is better than yours penis contest.. this is what Olympics promotes. Meaningless Nationalism. Instead of my race or ethnic group is better ,what Russia needs to
    be proud of is about Leading Business that drives the world in the future.. Thats what Putin the Fool needs to promote.. not a meaningless nationalistic international pissing context.. No



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    Post  medo on Sun May 27, 2018 10:22 am

    So, Switzerland and Austria are third world nations, because their economy is based on tourism. I got it.

    Tourism also bring a lot of money and jobs. Not to say that it enable selling domestic farming and industrial products to tourists, when they are in vacations. It is a difference in price if you sell pure grain to one country or to sell this same grain in form of cake to tourist from this country. Tourism is quite important branch of economy and is a good way for promotion of your domestic products.

    New fast railroad with China is not a BS, but a strategic project, which will connect Far East with Europe through safer continential route instead of dangerous naval route though South China sea, Indian sea and Mediterranian sea, where US or others could cut this route and impose sanctions. This new Silk road will bring a lot of money through transportation and Russia will use it itself for cheaper transportation of their products.

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    Post  Vann7 on Mon May 28, 2018 3:00 pm

    medo wrote:So, Switzerland and Austria are third world nations, because their economy is based on tourism. I got it.

    Tourism also bring a lot of money and jobs. Not to say that it enable selling domestic farming and industrial products to tourists, when they are in vacations. It is a difference in price if you sell pure grain to one country or to sell this same grain in form of cake to tourist from this country. Tourism is quite important branch of economy and is a good way for promotion of your domestic products.

    New fast railroad with China is not a BS, but a strategic project, which will connect Far East with Europe through safer continential route instead of dangerous naval route though South China sea, Indian sea and Mediterranian sea, where US or others could cut this route and impose sanctions. This new Silk road will bring a lot of money through transportation and Russia will use it itself for cheaper transportation of their products.

    @medo

    Tourism is important... but only in Russia specific case , it should not be the main focus of Russia..
    Of course , promote tourism all you want.. the more the better.. but investing hundred of $$billions dollars
    in Russia to promote more Tourism (as olympics is) will be a mistake for Russia... Why? Because Russia is already in a cold/semi Hot war with Americans.. If you have someone armed with a gun seeking to kill you ,you can't ignore him.. and look to the side.. understand? Russia needs to confront its enemies.. and it have only 2 ways to do it.. it either 1)Use its military to force US to peace by Force ,?  or.. 2) Defeat American most popular Influence in the world (their civilian business) by offering alternative to the things they use to influence the world towards their system.

    But Putin is doing a catastrophic mistake.. he IGNORE americans..how he do that?
    By not responding to them.. allowing them to humiliate Russia all the time..  Neither Fight them with their military ,since Already Russia have plenty of motives to declare war.. ie.. What Americans doing in Ukraine and Syria and their sanctions..  neither offers a competition to American business.. understand?  If Russia tomorrow offers a new Internet , lets say free internet ,and or paid internet depending on the  speed ,and offers it to Europe and they accept ,this will piss the hell of Americans.. that will be something they will truly find painful.. If Russia was landing in the moon with Humans today ,building a base.. that will be a major Blow to Americans .. specially if Russia lands in the same zone ,americans claimed to land and found nothing there.. This is what i call , Stealing the show..away of American world leadership.. This is when American leadership in the world will be in question and this is when they will feel a major pressure ,that if they don't do anything their empire , their influence will collapse.. after that..
    Russia declare Sanctions on United States space program , telling them , that is because their illegal actions in Syria and Ukraine.. this is how you fight.. back.. play their same game.. But before Russia can sanction United States ,it needs to develop Business , that they will truly like to participate but will be DENIED until they change their aptitude.. This is how you defeat the American Empire , by Turning Russia into a real developed nation , not in meaningless nationalistic epenis contest.. like sports.. but in Business that everyone in the world will cheer and enjoy and support. .A clear leadership in space and or in the IT/semiconductor industry or both will truly hurt US influence in the world.. 30% of american economy comes from entertainment industry.  by 2020 ,the American
    Entertainment industry alone will produce $2 TRILLIONS DOLLARS!!!!  this is money Russia can only dream..
    IF Russia took as serious its IT industry as they have done with Olympics.. investing $300 billions dollars on it..
    to promote those business.. You will have Russia by now offering alternative to INTEL , destroying leadership in the high tech business that they more proud feel about.. forcing Intel to go out of business.. this is how you defeat the Empire.. by being  more developed and influential business nation.. not by winning more gold medals in meaningless sports ..



    Once Europe realize... it does not Need for anything United States ,that Russia is more developed , it have everything Americans have or at least the most important business and lead in space too, then you will see
    how one by one European nations will jump ship towards the Russian orbit and NATO will disband.  Cool

    all the problems that Russia face with the west.. absolutely ALL OF THEM.. is 100% related with Russia lack
    of competition to the American world.. lack of leadership in business that leads the planet into the future.
    The message is clear , Russia needs to be a REAL INDEPENDENT and persuade Europe away of the American
    orbit , not with Words or olympics medals or gas discounts or breaking agriculture records selling bananas.. but with a truly modern innovative economy..

    what i said here ,don't apply to Switzerland or austria or majority of European nations.. why ?
    Because US is NOT at war with them.. only with Russia. And aside Europe don't need at all to lead ,
    to win.. all they need is to be UNITED and choose Russia as their new major ally and divorce from US ..
    but that will not happen as long Putin keep promoting Russia as a weak nation that depends on US
    system and US leadership. Putin will never convince Swamp elite to change their hostile policies agaisnt
    Russia with polite words and Orthodox values and sports . No he faces people that will put a bullet on his head
    if he commit the mistake of underestimating their enemies resolve to humiliate Russia. Only thing that
    Americans will respect is leadership or Force.. and Russia is doing neither one..

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    Post  Nibiru on Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:10 pm


    Vann wouldn't like this..,


    Russia may bid for hosting Summer Olympic Games, Putin says

    The next three editions of the Summer Olympic Games are scheduled to be held in Japan’s Tokyo in 2020, France’s Paris in 2024 and in Los Angeles, the United States, in 2028.

    The Russian president said the country has not initiated a relevant bid as of yet. Putin told volunteers that it was important to speak not only about the organization of global sports events in the country, but also to think about how to utilize the capacities left as a heritage after hosting major events.

    This summer, Russia hosted its first-ever FIFA World Cup, which kicked off in Moscow with a remarkable opening show at Luzhniki Stadium on the evening of June 14 and ended with a spectacular final match, also played at Luzhniki Stadium, where France soundly defeated Croatia 4-2 to win the much-coveted World Cup Trophy.

    The country selected 11 host cities to be the venues for the matches of the 2018 World Cup and they were Moscow, St. Petersburg, Sochi, Kazan, Saransk, Kaliningrad, Volgograd, Rostov-on-Don, Nizhny Novgorod, Yekaterinburg and Samara.

    In February and March of 2014, the Russian resort city of Sochi hosted the Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games, which, according to international sports officials, athletes and visitors, were organized at the highest level possible and provided up-to-date infrastructure at all levels.

    http://tass.com/sport/1014249

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    Post  Firebird on Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:13 pm

    Nibiru wrote:
    Vann wouldn't like this..,


    Russia may bid for hosting Summer Olympic Games, Putin says

    The next three editions of the Summer Olympic Games are scheduled to be held in Japan’s Tokyo in 2020, France’s Paris in 2024 and in Los Angeles, the United States, in 2028.

    The Russian president said the country has not initiated a relevant bid as of yet. Putin told volunteers that it was important to speak not only about the organization of global sports events in the country, but also to think about how to utilize the capacities left as a heritage after hosting major events.

    This summer, Russia hosted its first-ever FIFA World Cup, which kicked off in Moscow with a remarkable opening show at Luzhniki Stadium on the evening of June 14 and ended with a spectacular final match, also played at Luzhniki Stadium, where France soundly defeated Croatia 4-2 to win the much-coveted World Cup Trophy.

    The country selected 11 host cities to be the venues for the matches of the 2018 World Cup and they were Moscow, St. Petersburg, Sochi, Kazan, Saransk, Kaliningrad, Volgograd, Rostov-on-Don, Nizhny Novgorod, Yekaterinburg and Samara.

    In February and March of 2014, the Russian resort city of Sochi hosted the Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games, which, according to international sports officials, athletes and visitors, were organized at the highest level possible and provided up-to-date infrastructure at all levels.

    http://tass.com/sport/1014249

    I think a St P burg Olympics would be really good. Moscow is already high enough profile in the World.
    Vladivostock is currently too small, but might become being in coming decades. Alternatively, Russia could reclaim Kiev : D
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    Post  Hole on Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:21 pm

    Or two or three cities in the Urals.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:57 pm

    The city that will bid for Summer Olympics is Saint Petersburg. There is already a team that has been formed years now preparing the bid
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    Post  Hole on Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:27 pm

    Sailing will be no problem.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:02 am

    Moscow selected to host 2019 Beach Volleyball European Championship

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    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:19 am

    On Friday, the IAAF Council refused to reinstate the ARAF at its meeting in Argentina’s capital of Buenos Aires

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:30 am

    Indeed. Putin strategy will never work... NEVER.. he does not influence Americans , neither Influence
    Europe aside that with Cheap Gas discounts. And to make things even worse , he even praise US as the
    only super power and begged American companies in ST petersburg to help Him ,restore relations with
    America. If Putin shows weakness ,his enemies will only double down on their aggression. Unfortunately
    nobody near Putin explain this to him.

    The real problem is that you pathologically think Putin is an idiot.

    Putin is much smarter than you give him credit for.

    He played western games and didn't rock the boat until Russia got stronger. Russia is not strong enough to go on its own and grow.

    Playing western games creates two fundamental things that are critical for Russia... first of all it offers a chance for Russia to deal with its problems and weaknesses... a case in point the ban on agriculture imports from the EU... that was genius... it hurt the EU and it allowed the agriculture industry in Russia to form and grow into something that could actually compete locally and in the world market. A weak Russian agriculture would have been a real problem for Russia and they have sorted that out now. The second is that it allows the rest of the world to see what bastards the west is for its victimisation of Russia... Americans and Brits and other nationalities awash in the western media generally believe that crap, but other countries who have also previously been the victim of western arrogance and abuse will be taking the side of Russia... I mean the whole Sepp Blatter soccer uproar was not about corruption... it was about him not being the wests bitch and wanting the soccer world cup to go outside of the western countries for a change... now that they have toppled him it will go to western countries much more often and the rest of the world will notice... and think... why is there not a non-western controlled alternative... that is in sport and economics...

    The thing is that when Putin entered power there were no alternatives to western internationally controlled systems, but over time Russia has introduced alternatives... including to the SWIFT system and the IMF... when you can get India and China on board then you have rather more people behind you than the west ever had... and the rest of the world is noticing.

    The point is that if Russia had over reacted and completely cut itself off from the west its progress would be stunted and limited and it would have become an enormous North Korea that no one dare talk or communicate to for fear of also getting the same treatment.

    Sanctions worked against Iran because the EU is too scared to lose its business with the US over the small amount of money it might make dealing with Iran.

    If you take that as a lesson then obviously you need to expand your trade to other countries so you are more important to them and they benefit more from trade with you than they do with the west... that is what China is doing in Africa... it is trading but also building infrastructure to help those countries grow and develop and benefit from trade with China... something the west NEVER did.

    Russia needs to do the same and so does India. Russia and India and China will benefit more from FAIR and BALANCED trade with the countries of africa and asia and central and south america, where the countries they trade with also benefit and grow and develop, than they could even grow or develop trading with the west that has learned to keep its rivals down and make the most from any trade deal and minimise what the other side makes.

    Saw a doco on Discovery about some men looking for sapphires and other precious stones... it was new however in that they were trying to be ethical... the Massai tribe they got the stones from were paid a few hundred dollars... after being cut the stones were worth tens of thousands and they made a documentary about them trying to get some more of the value of the stones to those who were digging it.

    History has been the people who owned the land where the stones were found and the people digging up the stones got paid in cents per day and the rich white bastards from Europe who owned the slaves made millions. And the west wonders why colonials are not popular in some areas of the world...

    Anyway, this has nothing to do with sports.

    Putin has created an environment where Russian people can play sport if they want to... as an entertainment it is rather more healthy than sitting on your arse watching Russians being demonised by Hollywood... they have the choice to do what they want.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:40 am

    On Friday, the IAAF Council refused to reinstate the ARAF at its meeting in Argentina’s capital of Buenos Aires

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    In that case Russia should create an alternative for their athletes to get experience while they can't officially compete internationally.

    Russia should invite friendly countries to Russia to compete in non west games. Check the calendar so they don't conflict with international events and other commitments and just invite countries for competitions... give prizes to entice competitors.

    Don't invite the countries whose officials are barring Russia from the IAAF...

    Hell if you offer enough prize money they might prefer the Russian events to the international ones...

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