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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:33 pm

    Literally only reason I even bothered with Sochi Olympics​ was because it as in Russia and I was curious. And I learned about Sochi because I stumbled on it while I was looking for news about Russian space program. 

    Only winter sport I give a crap about is skeleton but I don't need to wait Olympic for that because it is so obscure that they upload all official footage on YouTube for free. And also because of obscurity nobody can spoil results for you because no journalist gives a shit about it. It makes curling look like UEFA Champions League. Bad for athletes, great for me. Main prize for word skeleton champion is just 20.000€ for fuck sakes...

    KHL will definitely keep the players home, they said as much. Pause in competition was to allow players to participate in Olympics. No Olympics, no need to pause the league. Back to work, besides it pays better than Olympics anyway.

    Russia should just take award fund for medal winners, slice it up evenly among entire Olympic team and move on. It will be way more money than most of them would hope to make anyway. With exception of hockey players majority of them work for peanuts unless they win (which is never a certainty) and some not even then. May be a disappointment in the short run but financially it would be jackpot. Olympics come and go, few manage to make the podium, even fewer make any long term money off of it but they all need to pay the bills when they come home.

    And as Russia found out during Sochi, winter Olympics are way smaller than summer ones. And both are infinitely smaller than World Cup (another thing I don't quite care about but again, it's in Russia and I'm curious...)

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    Post  ATLASCUB on Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:33 pm

    Wonder if the timing of this ban has to do with Putin announcing his bid to run again. Or if Putin's announcement is a response....although highly unlikely. More probable that it's the other way around. Maybe I'm over-analyzing and it's just a "coincidence". But I know better when it comes to shit like this.
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    Post  BKP on Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:07 pm

    Yes, a wond'rous victory for the mighty 59-or-so state Coalition! Maybe I'm nuts, but I still think I'd still take that relatively minor win in Syria over this one, though. dunno

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    Post  ATLASCUB on Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:50 pm

    BKP wrote:Yes, a wond'rous victory for the mighty 59-or-so state Coalition! Maybe I'm nuts, but I still think I'd still take that relatively minor win in Syria over this one, though. dunno

    Pre-war Syria vs. Syria today puts into perspective the word "win". From Russia's POV, more like acknowledging the enemy knocking hard at its fence posts, confronting it and fighting it to turn things back to pre-war Syria (which is still far from achieved).

    The Syrian "civil war" is still at net value, a win for the U.S all things considered. The country being destroyed that's a literal battlefield is not Israel, or Jordan or Saudi Arabia - it's the Russian ally in Russia's backyard that's in flames.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:18 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:..............
    The Syrian "civil war" is still at net value, a win for the U.S all things considered. The country being destroyed that's a literal battlefield is not Israel, or Jordan or Saudi Arabia - it's the Russian ally in Russia's backyard that's in flames.

    It took them to go up in flames before they finally decided that they want to be Russian ally.

    It's definitely a win for Russia. And it clears up some annoying BS as a bonus.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  BKP on Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:29 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:
    BKP wrote:Yes, a wond'rous victory for the mighty 59-or-so state Coalition! Maybe I'm nuts, but I still think I'd still take that relatively minor win in Syria over this one, though. dunno

    Pre-war Syria vs. Syria today puts into perspective the word "win". From Russia's POV, more like acknowledging the enemy knocking hard at its fence posts, confronting it and fighting it to turn things back to pre-war Syria (which is still far from achieved).

    The Syrian "civil war" is still at net value, a win for the U.S all things considered. The country being destroyed that's a literal battlefield is not Israel, or Jordan or Saudi Arabia - it's the Russian ally in Russia's backyard that's in flames.

    Plan A & B have failed. Plan C growing more tenuous with each passing day. US prestige in the region has taken a big hit. US, Iz & SA now looking like a deranged hydra, lashing out in all directions. Billions wasted (pretty typical). EU societial order rocked. This is an absolutely lousy ROI.

    OTOH, Russia's stock way up. Her military and diplomatic prowess proven to all participants and observers. Ample testing opportunities well taken advantage of. Everyone in the ME reacting to the obvious geopolitical sea-change and beating the path to Moscow. Smiles and Hugs for the still-firmly-ensconced Assad. Sure, the political landscape of Syria will evolve, but it's government will remain secular. The Syrian people will long gratefully remember their Russian ally.

    Yes, I suppose you could say there's not a completely unqualified win or loss for any side, but I can see no sane way to spin this outcome into an overall "win" for the US and its allies.

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    Post  ATLASCUB on Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:45 pm

    BKP wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:
    BKP wrote:Yes, a wond'rous victory for the mighty 59-or-so state Coalition! Maybe I'm nuts, but I still think I'd still take that relatively minor win in Syria over this one, though. dunno

    Pre-war Syria vs. Syria today puts into perspective the word "win". From Russia's POV, more like acknowledging the enemy knocking hard at its fence posts, confronting it and fighting it to turn things back to pre-war Syria (which is still far from achieved).

    The Syrian "civil war" is still at net value, a win for the U.S all things considered. The country being destroyed that's a literal battlefield is not Israel, or Jordan or Saudi Arabia - it's the Russian ally in Russia's backyard that's in flames.

    Plan A & B have failed. Plan C growing more tenuous with each passing day. US prestige in the region has taken a big hit. US, Iz & SA now looking like a deranged hydra, lashing out in all directions. Billions wasted (pretty typical). EU societial order rocked. This is an absolutely lousy ROI.

    OTOH, Russia's stock way up. Her military and diplomatic prowess proven to all participants and observers. Ample testing opportunities well taken advantage of. Everyone in the ME reacting to the obvious geopolitical sea-change and beating the path to Moscow. Smiles and Hugs for the still-firmly-ensconced Assad. Sure, the political landscape of Syria will evolve, but it's government will remain secular. The Syrian people will long gratefully remember their Russian ally.

    Yes, I suppose you could say there's not a completely unqualified win or loss for any side, but I can see no sane way to spin this outcome into an overall "win" for the US and its allies.

    I just value and weight things a bit different. Take for example Vietnam. "Huge embarrassment" bla bla... in the end it didn't matter shit. What had long lasting effect was the fear of U.S intervention in the region and the destruction of Vietnam hampering its growth post-war. The Soviets collapsed and now Vietnam has good ties with the U.S relatively speaking. I could go on but in the end, some people value some things different and that's why we have opinions. Only way I can see this proxy war as a net negative for the U.S is if side-effects fall onto U.S vassals in the region - which it won't.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:23 pm

    As papa said, the KHL gets more money than the winter olympics. As stated why Canada didn't even bother sending their best players for the winter olympics - NHL pays more as it gets more views.

    This will just drastically reduce the olympics viewership and money generation thus causing more harm to it. In the end, Universaid and KHL will be money generators for Russia, oh and the soccer matches as well, but even after FIFA, I have no idea if it will be as profitable or not.

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    Post  Firebird on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:16 pm

    Nearly all the Olympic sponsors are US corporations. One British, one Japanese, one Chinese. I think what all Russians and their supporters should do is email these corporations and say you will boycott them, and refuse any form of business with them too.

    Likewise nearly all the IOC heads are NATO or their cronies ie vassals.

    The Olympics is a joke. Look at sterodi bloated cheats like the Williams brothers, Simone Biles etc. Even the British press admit that British athletes are on drugs especially the cycling. Mo Farah's coach is a blatant cheat.

    The allegedly Russian hack of WADA shows that dope testing is a joke. Jsut belong to NATO/the Evil Empire and get a "therapeutic use exemption" like the Williamses, Froom, Wiggins, Biles etc. Look how they persecuted Sharapova when Williams is as guilty as fuck.

    Anyway, I'm starting by emailing Olympic sponsors. To call that propagandist garbage sport is an insult to my intelligence.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  Kimppis on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:48 pm

    Yeah, just realized that winter sports are very... NATO-centric. No kidding, just look at the countries: Nordic countries (Sweden and Finland are very much NATO-aligned as well, so is the whole of Western Europe), Canada and USA, France, Italy, Switzerland, Austria... Poland, Japan, etc. No countries from South America, Africa, most of Asia... Compare that to the summer Olympics and FIFA World Cup. It's no coincidence.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:31 pm


    Question

    Question: would Russians be allowed to wear USSR jerseys during Olympics? Russian ones are banned but who decides on what they wear instead?

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    Post  Firebird on Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:07 pm

    Kimppis wrote:Yeah, just realized that winter sports are very... NATO-centric. No kidding, just look at the countries: Nordic countries (Sweden and Finland are very much NATO-aligned as well, so is the whole of Western Europe), Canada and USA, France, Italy, Switzerland, Austria... Poland, Japan, etc. No countries from South America, Africa, most of Asia... Compare that to the summer Olympics and FIFA World Cup. It's no coincidence.

    I was writing about the IOC.
    http://thesaker.is/a-short-commentary-on-the-expulsion-of-russian-from-the-next-olympics-games/

    But yes, the Winter Olympic lot would be even more NATO-centric.

    I really hope Russia take a pound of flesh off them for this.
    Too much parrying attacks, not enough delivering them from Russia IMO.

    This blog has some good links/discussion re WADA's scamming.

    https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/like-rice-without-kimchi-or-football-without-spain-s-koreans-on-potential-russia-ban-from-2018-olympics/
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:43 am

    Firebird wrote:I really hope Russia take a pound of flesh off them for this.
    Too much parrying attacks, not enough delivering them from Russia IMO.

    Hope so as well but I think it's unlikely in this particular case. As was mentioned in the previous posts, they don't have any say in the governing body

    ----

    Interesting news...

    Champion boxer Floyd Mayweather seeks Russian citizenship
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/12/champion-boxer-floyd-mayweather-seeks.html

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:23 pm

    SK for all it's economic power has just proven that they are no more than a helpless, passive observer while they're own fate is being decided...qiute pathetic!

    Guarantor of Olympic Peace: South Korea Wants Putin in Pyeongchang
    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201712101059875998-olympics-putin-peace/


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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  GarryB on Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:08 am

    I am glad Russia has not boycotted the games... that would be unfair to their athletes even though it would be a useful message to send to the IOC.

    These athletes don't just roll out of bed the week the games start and decide to compete.... they have been working hard and training for years for this, so for the IOC to say they can't go just with the strike of a pen is disgusting.

    To ban all Russians they also need to ban all Americans because of their drugs cheats and all the Chinese because of their drugs cheats.

    If they were serious about it they should test all competitors just before and after events and there should be no exceptions... a banned substance is a banned substance.... the Williams sisters claiming it is medical is just a joke.

    Sadly New Zealand is now as much to blame.... we have a weightlifter who used to be a man and now he identifies as being a woman who competes against women and funny enough he has won a gold medal... but it is the Russians that can't compete...
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    Post  kvs on Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 am

    Cyberspec wrote:SK for all it's economic power has just proven that they are no more than a helpless, passive observer while they're own fate is being decided...qiute pathetic!

    Guarantor of Olympic Peace: South Korea Wants Putin in Pyeongchang
    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201712101059875998-olympics-putin-peace/



    Pathetic response by Russian officials. Russia does not need to boycott, it needs to ignore these sham Oympics:

    1) no TV coverage (saving lots of money)

    2) no support for athletes to compete under any rag other than the Russian flag. If they badly want to go
    and embarrass themselves, then it should not be on taxpayer coin.

    Medvedev was yapping as if he accepts the ludicrous McLaren report and its voodoo claims (e.g. unproven
    tampering of samples treated as tampering by unknown method) and based on a single criminal, Rodchenkov,
    who has a clear conflict of interest in his accusations. The McLaren report would never stand up as evidence
    at any civil or criminal trial.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:00 am

    One more thing we agree on Smile

    here's another TV debate on the topic
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:47 am

    It is perfectly understandable that politicians and athletes see the ban in different ways...

    The politicians see it as the political action that it is and know that if you just keep following the rules nothing will change and nothing will improve... they can keep using claims to upset the Russian athletes... one day before an event or one week before an event... so even if you get to go to an olympics you might not actually get to compete...

    Amazing that in the politically correct west that you can't be banned because you are gay, but you can be banned for being Russian...

    I hope Russia is not contributing to any funding to the IOC.

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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:32 am

    Russia is being humiliated again by US.. it shows how weak Russia is in
    defending their own people. All this is consequence of the clueless President
    and his fanatical addition to nationalism and sports. that contrary to the bullshit
    he claims .. it doesn't make people healthy at all.. Sports can only cause at times
    serious injuries in people bodies ,because they need to push their body to their limits for a stupid medal..
    to proof you are good in a totally irrelevant activity.. This is why Russians so much depends on drugs
    to do sports.. the pressure to win ,cause them to become ill.. of too much physical punishment on
    their bodies..  In what way Putin's Judo is "healthy"? Suspect or Boxing ? or
    Ultimate fighting real combat that people get seriously injured all the time or even killed
    and that Putin also promote?   No

    if Putin wants a "healthy life" ,then he should promote Physical exercise in schools
    and business and not any competition with others ,but instead for body shape and condition.

    So what we get from this? Putin wasted $51 billions of dollars in olympic avenues
    that he will never be able to use again in any olympics. No  Because Russia will be banned
    forever from any olympics.. Americans will find ways to continue banning Russia from sports..
    Which is by the way unwise for Americans to do... Because there is a saying if you see your enemies doing a mistake
    don't interrupt it.. and Putin is doing a huge mistake the way he waste Russia economy in Foolish
    things like sports. If they manage to ban Russia from FIFA.. that will do a favor to Putin to educate
    him.. how fool he have been for many years in promoting sports .

    Far better will have been if Putin invest that money in creating better Schools and Universities with better facilities and laboratories to train Russians to become better Engineers and scientist ,that is investing in promoting the modernization of Russia economy and Russian business.. and end Russia dependence of Gas and commodities.


    Sports are like Casino ,that produce nothing new..money only change hands. but nothing new is created..
    is only meaningless entertainment and nothing else. It is only popular.. because society is brainwashed
    by Big companies ,since they depend of advertising their products and people to see it.
    Sports promotes a totally artificial economy.. based on Ticket sales.. based of Few minutes of bragging rights of who scored more points in a totally fools and silly game.

    If Putin invested those $51 billions on its space program..  instead of a meaningless diversion that sports is...
    Then it will have created an scientific and technological industrial revolution in Russia . And Russia will be
    starting major projects to compete in the things that really matters. That could help Russia fix its image problems
    and poor influence in the world with their business.  and no longer will be claimed Russia is a gas station with nukes..
    Because its modern business will be in direct competition with the Americans ones. This is were Russia needs to compete.. in becoming a strong alternative to US technology giants and bypassing US ambitions in Space.

    What Putin is doing by promoting so much sports is promoting an artificial patriotism. and creating divisions
    in Russian society , between Russians and non Russians. people speak a lot of Ukraine banderas radical Nationalism..
    but nothing is said about Putin promotion of Nationalism and rascism.. as if being Russians , will automatically make you better and stronger human.  If Putin really wants to promote love for Russia.. there is no better way ,than to modernize its economy in successful innovative business... As Apple ,Sony ,Nintendo ,Intel and microsoft have done.
    That is to show that your country have everything anyone could want and needs nothing else from any other place.

    Some claim sports helps nations to get together and have fun.. which sometimes is true.. but most times do the opposite ,and promote even more hostilities between the society of both nations ,specially when there was a
    rivalry already between them.. In short Putin is totally clueless of what he is doing.. He is only promoting
    that Russia become more disrespected in the world.. by refusing to compete in the things that really matter..
    that is in future looking business leadership and influence in the world.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:21 am

    Geez...what a rant Very Happy
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:54 am

    IOC registers 169 Russian athletes for PyeongChang 2018 Olympics

    More:
    http://tass.com/sport/987216
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    Post  kvs on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:26 am

    http://russia-insider.com/en/ioc-stuck-egg-its-face-top-sports-court-overturns-its-ban-28-russian-athletes/ri22418

    The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has cleared 28 Russian athletes and dropped their life-bans over alleged doping. Their results have been reinstated and the athletes are eligible to compete in the 2018 Winter Games.

    “Both CAS panels unanimously found that the evidence put forward by the IOC in relation to this matter did not have the same weight in each individual case,” the statement from the Lausanne-based international body said.

    According to the ruling, in 28 cases filed by the Russian athletes the evidence was “insufficient” to establish that “an anti-doping rule violation (ADRV) was committed by the athletes.”

    Of course the IOC will appeal. The IOC is a hostile anti-Russian organization. If the Olympics are to retain their
    credibility, it needs to be purged and people from outside NATO appointed to key positions.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/top-russian-athletes-banned-olympics-no-reasons-given-russian-tv-news/ri22334


    Some of Russia's best athletes have been blocked from performing at the upcoming Winter Olympic Games in Pyonchang.

    While no evidence has been uncovered of any wrong doing, key players are sacked without explanation, even when test results are clean.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:58 am

    https://www.rtl.be/info/monde/international/l-ama-condamnee-en-appel-pour-atteinte-a-la-presomption-d-innocence-d-habib-cisse-991798.aspx

    Here is a summary via another forum:

    On Wednesday the Paris Court of Appeal upheld the verdict against the World Anti-Doping Agency for having undermined the presumption of innocence of Habib Cissé (former advisor to the head of world athletics), indicted in the investigation into the corruption scandal to cover doping among Russian athletes.

    The Court of Appeal upheld a judgment given in October 2016 condemning the Agency and the chairman of the commission that produced a report in the dispute, Canadian lawyer Richard W. Pound. Both will have to pay jointly and severally 8,000 euros in damages to Habib Cissé, and 10,000 euros in legal costs.

    WADA is Uncle Scumbag's anti-Russian tool. Dick Pound and the rest of the clowns running this outfit need to be
    purged.

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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:20 pm

    kvs wrote:

    WADA is Uncle Scumbag's anti-Russian tool.    Dick Pound and the rest of the clowns running this outfit need to be
    purged.


    Is called Influence...  
    Americans leadership in the world ,their business and economic power influence WADA ,IOC ,UN
    and to sabotage Russia sport. and manage to force Europe hand to sanction Russia.
    This is consequences of Russia catastrophic failure in the world , in influencing the most developed
    nations in the world that controls international laws.

    So Putin makes it easier for Americans to humiliate Russia..  because he develops Russia
    economy as if it was a banana african third world nation with nukes.

    This world nations like in africa,Cuba ,Venezuela,middle east.. Focus their economy ,their business in
    Energy ,Mining ,and guess what? Sports.. Just like Russia. So Putin vision of Russia is wrong..
    is focusing in primitive easy business ,that even third world nations can make.. allowing
    the west to take the leadership role in business that guides the planet into the future.  No



    Putin: Russia still a world leader in sport despite Olympics situation


    https://www.rt.com/sport/418146-putin-russia-remains-world-sports-leader/

    So Putin is proud about sports , in what way sports makes Russia an important nation in the world?
    No

    in what way winning many medals makes Russia a more developed nation? Cuba also used to win many
    medals in sports too..  only failure nations with failure leadership ,third world nations focus a lot their budget in sports.
    and commodities.. Because the most primitive nations in the world ,don't know what else to do..other that to sell
    what mother nature produce.

    Ohh.. Putin is also proud of Russia being the biggest world exporter of wheat.   pirat

    Did you understand Putin problem? He is the problem , he does not know how to counter American
    influence in the world.. So this is why he gets sanctions.. because is not leading Russia into a position
    of world leadership.. instead ,is guiding Russia into becoming a punching bag of the Americans.. a banana republic.
    a Sorry nation.  Americans have to be laughing their asses ,how they so easily humiliates Russia.
    And all this is consequences of Putin ,incompetence ,lack of vision for RUssia development  , lack of leadership ,lack of influence in the world. Is nor sports where Putin needs to promote their nation.. but in science and technology ,and in a modern innovative economy instead. An economy based on exporting modern technology and not in bananas
    gas and sports.

    Don't you understand , that the only reason Russia can be sanctioned ,is because it lacks of influence and leadership
    in the world?  Neutral   Why Russia cannot sanction Americans and humiliate them back ?  because Nobody follows Russia
    other than rejected third world nations.. like North korea o IRAN.. to name a few.  So Americans can start sanctions
    blaming Russia for the extinction of dinosaurs and most of the developed world ,who depends on Americans blessing and good relations will follow it.

    So you can complain all you want ,that the west is unfair.. that they should not do that.. but we don't live
    in a fair world. Tyranny rules the world.. and Putin is only helping the west to continue its abuse of power
    by allowing the west to continue dominate in everything ,and leading in all ,while Russia refuse to compete
    or offer an alternative to the US corrupt system .

    Russia have scientist that build amazing things , but the government don't take advantage of it .
    Do not promote international business with it.  They had a Yotaphone and allowed the business to
    be sold to China... So good job for China..  Laughing  


    The most amusing thing , the more ironic thing , is that even the Americans , have feel sorry for Russia
    and have been telling Putin what he is doing wrong.. Obama was joking ,about Russia, saying Russia is a gas station..
    What does Russia make?  told Obama.. Of course.. he knows Russia makes rockets ,build nuclear reactors and have good scientist..and a strong military and combat jets.. but What Obama really mean ,was is that Russia contributes in nothing in the development of the planet. Because Russia economy is not a nation that its economy focus in
    the export of technology  Contrary to US ,Japan ,and Europe ,that leads the world development
    into the future. and even now China is exporting modern technology in major scale.. so also doing
    a major contribution.

    Putin Dumb strategy is just to build a strong military and big nukes... and then be polite ,respectful in diplomacy with americans and then offer them lucrative business in Russia for peace. His tactics with Turkey will not with Americans..
    because US runs a world empire , that is already setup and is only consolidating its power to Absolute domination ,and only Russia and China step in the middle. Since Every other country (like India,IRAN ,Cuba,Venezuela) are not a treat to US or NATO global takeover ,because they influence nothing in the world. they can be either wiped easily with their military or with a civil revolution.

    So Putin what he is doing is only waiting for Americans to get tired of punching his face.. that is not a strategy.
    but a policy of cowards. Putin needs to fight Back.. Americans have declared war on Russia and Putin needs to FIGHT.
    and stop pretending there is no war and everything is good. He can do it with their military, but also he can do it by creating an alternative system to the American world.. To break US influence in the world. which is what he should do. But he refuse to do.. Simply because he either have no idea of what he is doing or perhaps he have a major low morale/leadership problem ,that don't think Russia have the capabilities to become an alternative to US. and is afraid to take major Risk with his economy.. like a new space race will be .or a technology industrial race ,to lead the world with Business, that takes the world into the future. Putins follow the American corrupt system and still have the face
    later to complain ,that he don't like it. The solution is not to BEG the corrupt IOC to help Russia compete in the olympics.. The Solution is that Putin takes seriously Russia independence. A real Independence is what Russia need.
    Total nation Freedom is what will come when Russia become totally independent of the AMerican system. But promoting Bananas business or wasting Russia budget in meaningless Olympics and allowing US to take the lead
    in Space and steal the show in every innovative future looking business . only helps the west to continue punching
    Russia face even more and continue trying to collapse it through sanctions and economic sabotage.
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    Re: Russia Sports News:

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:33 am

    Another whine wall from Vann.... fuck me, but its tedious trying to wade through your narrow-minded invective...

    The Saker just wrote an interesting piece on Prof Steven Cohens recent speech on Putins true nature. He's hit the nail on the head, so I suggest you read it..

    https://southfront.org/professor-stephen-f-cohen-rethinking-putin-review-saker/


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