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    Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:26 am

    In political language of Russia and some other post-Soviet states, the near abroad refers to the newly independent republics which emerged after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and sometimes other nearby countries such as Finland and Mongolia.

    The term was popularised by Russian foreign minister Andrey Kozyrev in the early 1990s, referring to central and eastern Europe; "near abroad" became more widely used in English, usually to assert Russia's right to have major influence in the region,but also for marketing purposes by various companies. For instance, President Vladimir Putin has declared the region Russia's "sphere of influence", and strategically vital for Russia.

    Earlier attempts to translate the Russian term include "the concept of 'abroad close at hand,'" "nearby foreign lands," and "countries not far abroad." As a result of the acceptance of the term "near abroad," the word "abroad" has acquired the function of a noun in English.

    The term is usually used to refer to several countries in Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia. Notably, the Baltic states which chose not to join any of the post-Soviet political organizations are still commonly referred to by this term.


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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:59 pm

    Serbia. After them - Montenegro, Bulgaria & Slovakia in no particular order.

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:22 pm

    Bulgaria with that president i dont think so

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:31 pm

    Serbia hands down. Bulgaria although in NATO and one of the main asslickers of the US Sad still has pretty smooth relations with Russia(thankfully) russia

    All other E.Eu nations are russophobic since the dawn of time and there is simply no point into trying to get them into Russia's sphere of influence. Ihave the feeling that overtime most of the west EU nations will gradually stop with the currently mandatory antirussian rhetoric and seek warmer relations(like Germany) after seeing that being USA's bitch isnt doing anything terribly good for them. Some might(hopefully) even leave NATO. If what I foresee is true the buttlickers of the USA will be contained to eastern europe sunny

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:36 pm

    George1 wrote:Bulgaria with that president i dont think so

    Rosen Plevneliev? That guy is from the right wing(but not definately antirussian) party GERB. Our prime minister Boyko Borisov does most of the work so its mostly up to him to decide. I havent seen how the relationship between Russia and Bulgaria has changed since the left wing former president Georgi Purvanov resigned dunno

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    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:46 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    George1 wrote:Bulgaria with that president i dont think so

    Rosen Plevneliev? That guy is from the right wing(but not definately antirussian) party GERB. Our prime minister Boyko Borisov does most of the work so its mostly up to him to decide. I havent seen how the relationship between Russia and Bulgaria has changed since the left wing former president Georgi Purvanov resigned dunno

    Abandonment of the burgas-alexandropoulis pipeline project, and belene nuclear reactor construction.. Aren't these enough??

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:48 pm

    Well probably none of them. All view russia as an evil subhuman occupational state that constantly invades small countries for no reason and it must be exterminated.

    Well at least the politicians and most of the internet warriors on youtube and other sites

    Damn I wish for another warsaw pact. And even better the return of socialism in an improved form Sleep

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:50 pm

    Most real people don't care enough either way... likely most just worry if they can keep their job, or find a good school for their children, and hope no one in their family gets sick and needs expensive medical care.

    In many ways New Zealand was a socialist state, the government used to control the electricity grid (generation and delivery), the postal service, the railways, they still control education and health.

    Of course every time things get tight like now they have a big asset sale, which normally means anything that makes money is sold for a price that usually ends up being similar to the buyers first years profit... after they fire everyone, sell off half the companies assets and then hires a quarter of the staff back as contractors with reduced benefits, while the CEOs and managers all get a hefty pay increase and bonuses.


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    Protests in Hungary against government's move for closer cooperation with Russia

    Post  AbsoluteZero on Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:50 am


    Budapest (AFP) - Thousands of Hungarians protested Friday at what they see as the country's move towards Russia in the latest demonstration against the government of controversial Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

    The crowd, estimated to be over 5,000 by an AFP photographer, brandished placards condemning Orban, whose support suffered a plunge in polls at the end of 2014 despite securing three election wins earlier in the year.

    The demonstrators, who gathered in front of the Budapest opera house, voiced concern over what they see as Hungary drifting away from the West to forge closer ties with its former Communist ruler.

    "It is disturbing to see that the Orban government is exposing Hungary to Russian influence," Robert Gombkoto, a 61-year-old manager, told AFP, citing a 10 billion euro ($12 billion) loan from Russia to Hungary to expanding a nuclear plant.

    http://news.yahoo.com/hungarian-protesters-hit-orbans-move-towards-russia-201353130.html

    It seems America is on the offensive on all fronts! this is an all out campaign to diminish Russia's cooperation and insterests in Europe. Russia really needs to start fixing things up in its economy and hit back at America where it hurts the most

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:42 pm

    This was called out month or two ago about how west would stage protests in Hungary.  Seems that this ended up as correct.

    Wonder if the other nations will wake up to this. 5K people in a country of almost 10M is a joke. These people should be ashamed of themselves.

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:00 pm

    sepheronx wrote:This was called out month or two ago about how west would stage protests in Hungary.  Seems that this ended up as correct.

    Wonder if the other nations will wake up to this.  5K people in a country of almost 10M is a joke.  These people should be ashamed of themselves.

    Yes, I was the one who pointed this out. John McCain wants to destroy Viktor Orban because he's friendly to Putin and Russia. Similarly the left-wing govt. in the Czech Republic is 'Russia-friendly' too, so they might be on the 'hit-list' soon enough.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:08 pm

    5K people though, that is a small number of protesters. Only one smaller than this was the Navalny protests recently where only 1500 people showed up.

    I know that the rest of the Hungarians wont do squat cause they are lazy EU people, but at least they can try to call out these protesters for what they are: foreign working agents.

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:14 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:This was called out month or two ago about how west would stage protests in Hungary.  Seems that this ended up as correct.

    Wonder if the other nations will wake up to this.  5K people in a country of almost 10M is a joke.  These people should be ashamed of themselves.

    Yes, I was the one who pointed this out. John McCain wants to destroy Viktor Orban because he's friendly to Putin and Russia. Similarly the left-wing govt. in the Czech Republic is 'Russia-friendly' too, so they might be on the 'hit-list' soon enough.

    Leftists are the most precious American allies, nothing will happen to Czechs.

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:46 am

    Prague Interested in Deeper Ties With Moscow, Obliged to Follow EU Rules

    Head of the communication department of the Czech Union of Industry and Transport stated that Czech Republic is interested in bolstering economic cooperation with Russia, but recognizes that it must adhere to European Union anti-Russia sanctions.

    MOSCOW, January 30 (Sputnik) – The Czech Republic is interested in bolstering economic cooperation with Russia, but recognizes that it must adhere to European Union anti-Russia sanctions, the head of the communication department of the Czech Union of Industry and Transport told Sputnik Radio.

    "Strengthening of cooperation with Russia corresponds directly to the interests of Czech Republic. But we are part of the European Union, and have to obey common solutions to a certain extent," Milan Mostyn told Sputnik Radio.

    Mostyn added that most Czech businesses and a large part of the community are against sanctions, considering them inappropriate pressure on Russia.

    Outside of the European Union, the Russian market is the most important for Prague, Mostyn stated, branding it "top-market" for the country's exporters.

    According to Mostyn, many Czech enterprises in the Russian market do not want to stop working with the country. "They don't want to leave even in spite of the extremely negative financial situation in Russia, difficulties related to the anti-Russia sanctions," Mostyn said, adding that many want to increase cooperation.

    On Thursday, European Union foreign ministers decided to keep sanctions against Russian individuals and entities in place until September.

    Since March 2014, the Unites States, the European Union and a number of other countries have imposed several rounds of sanctions against Russia, accusing the country of interfering in the Ukrainian conflict, a claim Moscow has repeatedly denied.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150130/1017556674.html#ixzz3QO2ny5VN

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    Re: Russia and the ex-Eastern Europe states

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:34 am

    East European states intend to block Nord Stream 2 project

    European Commission energy spokesperson Anna-Kaisa Itkonen has confirmed receiving a letter clarifying the intent of East European states

    BRUSSELS, December 1. /TASS/. The European Commission (EC) has received a letter from eastern European states on their intention to block the Nord Stream 2 project, European Commission energy spokesperson Anna-Kaisa Itkonen said on Tuesday.

    "Yes, I can confirm that we’ve received the letter," she said.

    According to Itkonen, the EC will consider and offer a response. "We’ll offer a response to it just like to any other letter we receive," she said.

    On Monday the Financial Times reported that nine countries of central and eastern Europe, led by Poland and Slovakia, are petitioning to block the construction of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which allegedly undermines the EU’s energy security. In a joint letter to the European Council president Donald Tusk, the countries demand that "the proposed pipeline between Russia and Germany be put on the agenda of next month’s summit of EU leaders, in an attempt to pressure Brussels to withhold its approval," the newspaper wrote. The new pipeline, which will be the second to connect Russia and Germany under the Baltic Sea, "will increase Europe’s dependence on Russian gas monopoly Gazprom." According to the letter, the project "contradicts the EU’s own energy diversification and security policies" while the leading countries of the European Union that support it are putting their "own economic needs ahead of their energy security."

    On September 4, Gazprom, BASF, E.ON, ENGIE, OMV and Shell signed a shareholder agreement for construction of a gas transportation system Nord Stream 2, an export-oriented natural gas pipeline with total annual capacity of 55 bln cubic meters from Russia to Germany via the Baltic Sea. The project will be implemented by the joint venture Nord Stream AG where Gazprom holds a 51% stake, E.ON and Wintershall - 15.5% each and ENGIE and Gasunie - 9% each.


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