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    Post  kvs on Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:30 pm

    hoom wrote:I know what its for but look at the video, the chain very nearly lands on a couple of dock guys & its not impossible for a length to have flicked out into the crowd, particularly as you say if it'd have caught on something.

    Edit: another angle

    This is obvious incompetence. Not only was the there the high chance of killing people, but the chain was not supposed to drag along the ground
    since it could have got caught on some obstacle causing the anchor to fly off and rip up the deck railing and maybe even the joint between
    the deck and the hull. That is not a cheap, cosmetic repair.

    Russia is still afflicted by this sort of culture of shoddy workplace behaviour since the USSR period and even before 1917. Many 3rd world
    countries have similar cultural issues. But there has been substantial evolution away from this since 1991. But it will take a couple of generations
    to entrench the new culture and for the old one to finally fade away.



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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:09 am

    We have discussed this... there is plenty of space either side for that chain to drop perfectly safely... the only way the chain could flail around dangerously is if it caught on something and there is intentionally nothing there to catch.

    BTW recently looked at a Chinese ship being launched and there were people on the slipway who had just smashed a bottle of booze on the ship as the ship will sliding down the slipway... but no mention of safety then...
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:12 pm

    kvs wrote:

    This is obvious incompetence. Not only was the there the high chance of killing people, but the chain was not supposed to drag along the ground
    since it could have got caught on some obstacle causing the anchor to fly off and rip up the deck railing and maybe even the joint between
    the deck and the hull. That is not a cheap, cosmetic repair.

    Russia is still afflicted by this sort of culture of shoddy workplace behaviour since the USSR period and even before 1917. Many 3rd world
    countries have similar cultural issues. But there has been substantial evolution away from this since 1991. But it will take a couple of generations
    to entrench the new culture and for the old one to finally fade away.




    Bit unfair.

    It looks like as an accident, not a purposed early release.

    The guys in the shipyard collecting the experience at the moment.

    I can tell horror stories in British and American plants, by the way.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:12 am

    Not really an accident... the release system for the chain to the anchor released too early and so the chain got dragged down the slipway, when it should have released when the anchor was released in the water to stop the vessel sailing across the water and hitting the other side.

    It really wasn't a big deal.

    The zoomed out view showed at least 5-10m between the side of the ship and the nearest people... the slipway either side of the ship had no people standing watching so that chain could drag all it wanted...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:42 pm


    Icebreaker Ob delivered to Rosatomflot, will operate in Sabetta

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/125859/

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    Post  medo on Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:14 pm

    https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%84%D0%B816/

    Patrol icebreaker Ivan Papanin Will be launched on October 25th.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:11 am

    America plans to deny Russia the North Sea Route. But Russia is the only country on the planet with a military icebreaker. The USA
    has some disintegrating rust bucket that probably would break down on the way to "enforce America's will". America is a dangerously
    pathetic joke. It is literally living off of the delusion about itself.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:46 am

    American Naval officials already wanted to go up to the arctic ocean to show Russia who is boss, but the government said no because of the lack of reliable available ice breakers... it would have looked bad them steaming up there to show who is boss and having to ask the Russians to help them leave if their icebreaker fails...
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    Post  owais.usmani on Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:38 am

    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/2019/10/heading-arctic-waters-55-year-old-russian-icebreaker-gets-engine-troubles-norwegian-coast

    Heading for Arctic waters, 55 year old Russian icebreaker gets engine troubles off Norwegian coast


    There is stormy weather on the west Norwegian coast and the Russian icebreaker on Tuesday morning reported that it was experiencing a halt in engine power.

    The ship was located off the coast of Ålesund when the situation occured. A helicopter from the Norwegian Joint Rescue Coordination Centre quickly made it to the site, and tugboats are on their way, the rescue service informed.

    There are 33 people onboard the ship that is owned and operated by Rosmorport, the Russian state port and logistics company.

    The 84,5 meters long «Tor» is built in 1964 and has St.Petersburg as its home port. It is on its way to Sabetta, the Russian seaport in the peninsula of Sabetta.

    According to Norwegian rescue services, the ship later in the morning retained parts of its engine power and the situation is no longer consider critical, broadcaster NRK reports.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:27 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/2019/10/heading-arctic-waters-55-year-old-russian-icebreaker-gets-engine-troubles-norwegian-coast

    Heading for Arctic waters, 55 year old Russian icebreaker gets engine troubles off Norwegian coast


    There is stormy weather on the west Norwegian coast and the Russian icebreaker on Tuesday morning reported that it was experiencing a halt in engine power.

    The ship was located off the coast of Ålesund when the situation occured. A helicopter from the Norwegian Joint Rescue Coordination Centre quickly made it to the site, and tugboats are on their way, the rescue service informed.

    There are 33 people onboard the ship that is owned and operated by Rosmorport, the Russian state port and logistics company.

    The 84,5 meters long «Tor» is built in 1964 and has St.Petersburg as its home port. It is on its way to Sabetta, the Russian seaport in the peninsula of Sabetta.

    According to Norwegian rescue services, the ship later in the morning retained parts of its engine power and the situation is no longer consider critical, broadcaster NRK reports.


    I guess they didn't have to look for parts on e-bay as with the US icebreaker. America should not wave its dick around when its one and
    only icebreaker is old enough to have major engine failure at sea.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:38 pm


    santa

    Russia's Brand New Nuclear Icebreaker “Arktika” to Begin Sea Trials

    https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/russias-brand-new-nuclear-icebreaker-arktika-begin-sea-trials

    Russia’s newest and largest nuclear icebreaker Arktika will begin sea trials on December 12, announced the constructing shipyard Baltiysky Zavod. The vessel represents the first in a series of five new icebreakers to be commissioned over the next few years. The vessel’s sister ships Sibir and Ural have also been launched, with a yet-to-be-named fourth and fifth vessel ordered in August 2019.

    Sea trials will be conducted in the Gulf of Finland and will test the icebreaker’s propulsion system, communication and navigation equipment, and deck installations. Commissioning is expected for April 2020 at which point Rosatomflot, the country’s operator of all nuclear icebreakers, will take possession. The ship will operate in the Barents, Pechora and Kara Seas, as well as in shallow waters of the Yenisei estuary and Ob Bay....
    ........
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:39 pm


    Fourth Arktika-class nuclear icebreaker will be laid down in May-June 2020

    http://sudostroenie.info/novosti/28808.html
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:52 pm


    Nuclear icebreaker Arktika started trials today santa

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    Post  owais.usmani on Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:44 pm

    They say it is the biggest icebreaker ever built but to me it looks a bit smaller than "50 years since victory":

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