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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:45 am

    George1 wrote:Russia's Rosatom to expand icebreaker fleet

    Rosatom's icebreakers provided safe waterways to 410 ships with a total cargo capacity of 5.3 million tonnes through the Northern Sea Route in 2016

    ARKHANGELSK, March 31. /TASS/. Russia’s nuclear power corporation Rosatom will expand its nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet as the deadlines for commissioning a number major projects draw near and the implementation of the Northern Sea Route development concept goes ahead. Rosatom will have to order up to five nuclear-powered icebreakers of a new generation - Leader, the corporation’s CEO Aleksey Likhachev has told TASS.

    "As far as the fleet’s further expansion is concerned, we are to order more effective icebreakers, the Leader class ones, for instance. It makes no sense to make just one pilot project without having plans for its eventual serial production. Indeed, three to five icebreakers of a new generation will have to be built. But a decision to lay the keel of the first Leader icebreaker is to be made first," Likhachev said.

    He added the decision was to be made by the government. The project would require substantial government support, he added.

    Likhachev did not specify the likely costs of the Leader icebreaker project, adding that it would be more expensive than the The Arktika, currently under construction, which cost the corporation 37 billion rubles ($600 mln). Earlier, Deputy Economic Development Minister Aleksandr Tsybulsky said the icebreaker of project 10510 (leader) equipped with a 120-megawatt power plant will cost 70 billion rubles ($1.2 bln) to build.

    The Leader icebreaker will be twice more powerful than any of the current ones. Also, it will be thrice wider, which will enable it to escort far larger ships.

    The Northern Sea Route


    Rosatom's icebreakers provided safe waterways to 410 ships with a total cargo capacity of 5.3 million tonnes through the Northern Sea Route in 2016, Likhachev said.

    "In 2015, with the support of the Rosatom nuclear fleet, 195 vessels with a total cargo capacity of 2 million tonnes were navigated along the Northern Sea Route, in 2016 this number was already 410 vessels and the cargo volume reached 5.3 million tonnes. I think that in 2017, this increase will be maintained, because there are relevant contracts, "he said.

    According to the forecast of Rosatom, in 3-5 years the volume of cargo traffic along the Northern Sea Route may grow up to 35 million tonnes.

    "The demand for this route has been confirmed by such major projects as Yamal LNG, which is implemented by Novatek and development of the Novoportovskoye field by Gazprom Neft," Likhachev said.

    The Northern Sea Route - is the main sea route in the Russian Arctic. The Russian Ministry of Transport forecasts cargo turnover along the Northern Sea Route by 2020 will grow tenfold to 65 million tons per year. The route crosses seas of the Arctic Ocean (Kara, Laptev, East Siberian, and Chukotka) and partially the Pacific Ocean (the Bering Sea). The Northern Sea Route from the Kara Gate to the Providence Bay is about 5,600 km long. The distance between Saint Petersburg to Vladivostok along the Northern Sea Route is more than 14,000 km, while the distance vessels cover by the Suez Canal is more than 23,000 km.

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    Nice one,it means that the cost of transport is somewhere around 500 $/ton, compared to the 50-100 $ cost of atlantic route.

    If they increase the volume to 35 million tons/year then the cost of icebreaker transport will be 80-100$/ton.

    This means that the new icebreakers can make the arctic transport route usable,and cheaper than the Suez canal.
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  max steel on Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:52 pm

    In May 2016 Russian Navy ordered two Arctic patrol ice-breakers ("corvettes") of Project 23550. Today, the first of them, Ivan Papanin, was laid down at Admiralty Wharf in St. Petersburg. These ships will have a bizarre weapons' suite. New ice-breakers will have 76-mm gun, machine guns and, of course, and you may have guessed it--they will be able to carry a notorious Kalibr complex, possibly both with land-attack and anti-shipping configuration.


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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:11 am

    It is normal to fit them with UKSK launchers... it is fairly unlikely they will be loaded with land attack cruise missiles.

    Far more likely to be fitted with anti ship and anti sub weapons as standard which would be useful for many of its missions.


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    Re: Icebreakers

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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed May 17, 2017 2:24 am


    Baltiysk shipyard:




    Looks like Lk-110 will be pushed back couple of years but they will be getting built:

    Russia to Build New Nuclear-Powered Icebreaker - Putin

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201705151053636539-russia-new-nuclear-incebreaker/
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed May 17, 2017 2:47 am

    Recent photo of the Ilya Muramets at Admirality shipyard.
    Soon to go on sea trials.

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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:08 am

    MOSCOW, June 8. /TASS/. The cutting-edge Ilya Muromets icebreaker will become operational in the Russian Navy by the end of this year, the Defense Ministry reported on Thursday.

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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:31 pm


    Scale model of Lk-120 nuclear icebreaker:


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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:49 pm


    Lider=Lk-120

    Russia needs at least three Leader icebreakers for Northern Sea Route


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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:03 am






    Looks like they decided to forgo decorative paint on Lomonosov and just stick with protective one, probably due to salt, humidity and temperatures up there.
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:54 pm

    The delivery of the projected atomic icebreakers of Project 22220 was rescheduled

    As the newspaper Kommersant writes in the article of Anastasia Vedeneeva, Ivan Safronov, Yuri Barsukov, Vladimir Dzaguto; Herman Kostrinsky "The Arctic" fell into a drift. The Federal Security Service and the Prosecutor General's Office will be engaged in the nuclear icebreaker ", the construction of the main nuclear icebreaker LK-60YA" Arctic "demanded the intervention of Vladimir Putin - only he was able to decide to move the project from 2017 to 2019. Serial "Siberia" and "Ural" will be delivered in 2021 and 2022. The failure of the deadline, one of the key reasons for which was the conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, may turn into a scandal: the president has already instructed to take "personnel and organizational and managerial decisions," the Accounts Chamber, the Prosecutor General's Office and the FSB will begin inspections. The customer, Rosatom, and the contractors, in particular the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), can respond. But the sources of Kommersant do not expect high-profile dismissals, because the project was launched even when Rosatom was headed by the first deputy head of the presidential administration, Sergei Kiriyenko.

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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:22 pm

    George1 wrote:The delivery of the projected atomic icebreakers of Project 22220 was rescheduled

    As the newspaper Kommersant writes in the article of Anastasia Vedeneeva, Ivan Safronov, Yuri Barsukov, Vladimir Dzaguto; Herman Kostrinsky "The Arctic" fell into a drift. The Federal Security Service and the Prosecutor General's Office will be engaged in the nuclear icebreaker ", the construction of the main nuclear icebreaker LK-60YA" Arctic "demanded the intervention of Vladimir Putin - only he was able to decide to move the project from 2017 to 2019. Serial "Siberia" and "Ural" will be delivered in 2021 and 2022. The failure of the deadline, one of the key reasons for which was the conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, may turn into a scandal: the president has already instructed to take "personnel and organizational and managerial decisions," the Accounts Chamber, the Prosecutor General's Office and the FSB will begin inspections. The customer, Rosatom, and the contractors, in particular the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), can respond. But the sources of Kommersant do not expect high-profile dismissals, because the project was launched even when Rosatom was headed by the first deputy head of the presidential administration, Sergei Kiriyenko.

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    This makes no sense whatsoever, what is this supposed to mean? Like random typing...
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  kvs on Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:56 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:The delivery of the projected atomic icebreakers of Project 22220 was rescheduled

    As the newspaper Kommersant writes in the article of Anastasia Vedeneeva, Ivan Safronov, Yuri Barsukov, Vladimir Dzaguto; Herman Kostrinsky "The Arctic" fell into a drift. The Federal Security Service and the Prosecutor General's Office will be engaged in the nuclear icebreaker ", the construction of the main nuclear icebreaker LK-60YA" Arctic "demanded the intervention of Vladimir Putin - only he was able to decide to move the project from 2017 to 2019. Serial "Siberia" and "Ural" will be delivered in 2021 and 2022. The failure of the deadline, one of the key reasons for which was the conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, may turn into a scandal: the president has already instructed to take "personnel and organizational and managerial decisions," the Accounts Chamber, the Prosecutor General's Office and the FSB will begin inspections. The customer, Rosatom, and the contractors, in particular the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), can respond. But the sources of Kommersant do not expect high-profile dismissals, because the project was launched even when Rosatom was headed by the first deputy head of the presidential administration, Sergei Kiriyenko.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2725380.html

    This makes no sense whatsoever, what is this supposed to mean? Like random typing...

    Kommersant was owned by Berezovsky and is a 5th column rag. It was never purged of Berezovsky's influence so it spins all sorts
    of shite to make Russia and Putin look bad.

    It was obvious that delivery of the first ship will not occur in 2017. The 2019 estimate could mean a one year delay. But it is not even specified
    what Ukraine's contribution is the would contribute to the delay.
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:28 am

    None.  If you read the article, BMPD actually correct Kommersant regarding who got the contract for the turbines:
    a mistake - in fact, Khartsyzsk pipe was not supposed to supply turbines; when in 2013 CAM won a tender for turbine units that was planned to be manufactured at the Kirov plant turbine only test at Khartsyzsk pipe, which has a special stand - bmpd

    Essentially, according to the article, multiple groups are blaming each other but most are pointing their fingers at the Kirov plant as to the delay since the Turbines are not ready contrary to their initial claim.  Now they themselves blame due to lack of people available to do the job to make these turbines.

    So once again, the Turbine issue rears its head.  So I expect in coming days/weeks/months that there will be a push for supply of funding to the Kirov plant in order to try to fix their staffing issue and low rate production.

    How Sukhoi fixed this issue, was by introducing their own technical institution to train new staff.

    Edit: I was going to say, the contract was made not that long ago. So I find it odd that it would be launched so soon. Shows that building a large ship doesn't take a whole lot of time for Russia. Only issue is the issue in turbines at specific plants.
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:40 pm

    Icebreaker "Ilya Muromets" in the sea

    As reported on the web resource forums.airbase.ru, July 22, 2017 from St. Petersburg in the sea for factory road tests for the first time came out completed by the construction of JSC "Admiralteyskie Verfi" (part of JSC "United Shipbuilding Corporation") for the Russian Navy The main diesel-electric icebreaker for the project 21180 "Ilya Muromets".



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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:53 am

    Icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin will be handed over for completion to Admiralty Shipyards

    As Kommersant newspaper reports, in the article of Herman Kostrinsky and Anastasia Vedeneeva, Viktor Chernomyrdin is closely at Baltzavod. OSK passes the icebreaker to the Admiralty Shipyards, "the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) is trying to speed up the extended timeframe for the production of new icebreakers, redistributing them among enterprises. According to "Kommersant", the diesel-electric LK-25 "Viktor Chernomyrdin" worth 11 billion rubles, built and launched at Baltzavod, will be completed by the Admiralty shipyards. Baltzavod will focus on nuclear LK-60, the construction of which, like LK-25, is very late. Meanwhile, the problems with the timing already call into question the financing of the commissioning of the LC-25.



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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:37 pm

    Russian nuclear icebreaker sails off to North Pole

    The Arktika icebreaker under the command of captain Yuri Kuchiyev reached the North Pole by sea on August 17, 1977, for the first time in human history



    MURMANSK, August 13. /TASS/. The 50 Let Pobedy (50th Anniversary of Victory) nuclear-powered icebreaker on Sunday sailed off from Russia’s northwestern port of Murmansk on a memorial voyage to the North Pole, repeating the Arktika (Arctic) icebreaker’s expedition of 1977, when a surface vessel reached the pole for the first time.

    Taking part in the memorial voyage are about 100 people, with a number of members of the 1977 expedition among them, a TASS correspondent reported from the ship.

    The Arktika icebreaker under the command of captain Yuri Kuchiyev reached the North Pole by sea on August 17, 1977, for the first time in human history. The 2017 expedition plans to reach the northernmost point also on August 17 to hoist a flag in memory of the North Pole pioneers.

    During the expedition, the 50 Let Pobedy ship will host a conference dedicated to the future of the Arktika icebreaker, already decommissioned, environmental problems of the Arctic region, and the development of year-round navigation along the Northern Sea Route.

    "The key task of the conference is to try to understand whether it is economically worth to develop year-round navigation along the entire Norther Sea Route. It is task number one. And it will be discussed," the 2017 voyage leader, Director General of the nuclear fleet authority, Atomflot, Vyacheslav Ruksha told TASS.

    He said he is sure Atomflot will be able to ensure year-round navigation along the entire Northern Sea Route in the near future whereas now navigation is possible only in Western Arctic. "Our veterans have mastered the Kara Sea and it has become obvious to everyone that nuclear-powered icebreakers are capable of ensuring stable, sustainable year-round navigation. Now, we are getting prepared and I think we will do it in the entire Arctic Ocean, along the entire Northern Sea Route in the next five to seven years," he said.

    Among participants in the expedition onboard the 50 Let Pobedy icebreaker are lawmakers from both houses of the Russian parliament, the State Duma lower house and Federation upper house, representatives of the Rosaton state-run nuclear corporation, and polar explorers of various generations.


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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 on Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:56 pm

    Icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin transferred for completion to Admiralty Shipyards

    It is reported that on September 1, 2017, the ill-fated linear diesel-electric icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin of Project 22600 (LK-25) was transferred for completion from afloat to Baltiysky Zavod Shipbuilding (St. Petersburg) LLC on the opposite bank of the Neva to JSC "Admiralty Shipyards".



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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:46 am

    With the Arctic icecap melting so rapidly I have to wonder aloud if Russia is wasting billions of dollars on soon to be needless ships and technology?
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:32 pm

    flamming_python wrote:With the Arctic icecap melting so rapidly I have to wonder aloud if Russia is wasting billions of dollars on soon to be needless ships and technology?

    Icecaps melting does not mean the same thing as ice-free

    It just means (in terms of navigation) that ice is now thin enough to get an icebreaker and accompanying vessels trough it at larger areas than before

    Of course melting icecap also has effect on climate and all that stuff but that's different topic
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    Re: Icebreakers

    Post  George1 Yesterday at 3:05 pm

    ST.PETERSBURG, September 22. /TASS/. The Baltic Shipyard in St. Petersburg in northwest Russia on Friday floated out the Sibir nuclear-powered icebreaker of Project 22220, which is designed for transporting cargos via the Northern Sea Route, a TASS correspondent reported.

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