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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:03 am

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    Sorry, I thought I could suggest my own. Embarassed

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:31 pm

    Russia's new-generation manned spaceship may be called Gagarin Vector or Federation

    The new vehicle will service Russia’s lunar program

    MOSCOW, December 25. /TASS/. The names Gagarin, that of the first man in space, Vector and Federation top the Internet shortlist of names for a new-generation manned transport spacecraft, the press service of Russia’s Energia Rocket and Space Corporation said on Friday.
    "As many as 35,105 people took part in the voting," the statement said. "More than 10,000 people suggested the new spaceship to be named after Earth’s first cosmonaut, Yuri Gagarin. Near 5,000 people voted for the Vector name, and above 3,500 for the Federation name."
    Whoever has entered the eventual winning name will take the main prize, a trip to Baikonur space center in Kazakhstan to watch the launch of a Soyuz manned cargo spaceship to the International Space Station next spring.
    Russia’s space agency, Rosсosmos, will announce the winner on January 15.
    The new vehicle will service Russia’s lunar program. The ship, accommodating up to four crew, will be able to stay in independent flight for up to 30 days and up to a year when docked to the space station. The ship’s weight in orbiting flight will be 14.4 tonnes, and 19 tonnes in a lunar mission.

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:10 pm

    New Russian manned spacecraft to be called Federation

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:04 am

    Russia’s new manned spacecraft to be 3.5 times cheaper than US Dragon

    Russia plans to launch the Federation space vehicle in 2021

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:05 pm


    Russia to Begin Building New 'Federation' Spacecraft This Summer

    http://sputniknews.com/science/20160411/1037816410/russia-new-spacecraft.html

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:51 pm


    Fresh one:



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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed May 04, 2016 10:26 pm


    RSC "Energia" patented thermal control coating for PTK "Federation"

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/77285/

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri May 06, 2016 8:07 am

    Conducted the first test of a new spacecraft "Federation"


    MOSCOW, 5 may — RIA Novosti. Specialists RSC "Energia" has held the first tests of the elements of human-machine interface on a unique stand ergonomic testing piloted transport ship (PTK) a new generation of "Federation", is spoken in the message of the Corporation.
    Stand ergonomic testing with high accuracy simulates the jobs of the crew on the command deck of the ship and the working conditions of the crew, including with the use of rescue suits.

    "In the framework of the tests performed the tests of different management information formats for the crew of the "Federation", after the analysis of the results of which decisions will be made on whether to implement those or other elements of the interface in the new vehicle, information zones on the displays of the astronauts", — stated in the message.

    Working off of elements of human-machine interface is on the basic algorithms of crew performance and all phases of flight – launch, elimination, Autonomous flight, rendezvous and docking and flying in a part of a space station or a lunar orbital transfer complex.
    Manned transport spacecraft of new generation developments of RSC "Energia" is designed to deliver people and cargo to the moon and a space station in earth orbit.
    The spacecraft is reusable, its design incorporates advanced technologies, some of which have no analogues in world cosmonautics. In particular, the return apparatus of PTK will be performed using new materials, and have a reusable connecting unit. Modern avionics will allow to solve more effectively the problem of rendezvous and docking ship, will increase the safety of the crew during launch and descent to the Ground.

    The number of crew PTK will be up to four people. In the Autonomous flight mode, the ship can be up to 30 days, in flight in the orbital station to one year. The total mass of the spacecraft during the flight to the space station will be equal to 14.4 tonnes (19 tons during the flight to the moon), the weight of the recovery vehicle 9 tons. The ship length — 6.1 meters. For launching craft into orbit is planned to use the carrier rocket heavy class "Angara-А5П"


    http://ria.ru/science/20160505/1427034922.html


    so no more option for 6 persons? Shocked


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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 06, 2016 2:19 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Conducted the first test of a new spacecraft "Federation"

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    so no more option for 6 persons?  Shocked


    It was dropped quite a while ago. Originally idea was to be able to carry full complement of crew to ISS with 6 man version and to have 4 man version for deep space missions.

    6-man version was abandoned because there is almost never a need to carry entire ISS crew in one go other than emergency evac but if that happens they would simply split into two or more groups and board separate craft. 6-man version would also need to use specialized seats for every crewmember that have to be custom built in advance like on Soyuz which makes it very complicated to make quick changes in crew roster or even seating order. 4-man version will be using adjustable seats that are slightly larger but way more practical.



    4-man version also has enough room to install toilet in separate space. This is done next to entry hatch since that part is not used once crew boards the ship. Toilet system is taken out of storage, installed on the wall and plastic screen slides over to give users privacy. This may sound irrelevant but it is huge issue up there. It is in the video I linked several posts earlier.

    Life support can operate lot longer on version with fewer crewmen.

    There is also the fact that ISS will be getting scraped soon and that new space stations are unlikely to have larger crew complement than 6 any time soon.

    SpaceX was pitching 7-man capsule to NASA but this was just advertising trick to "reduce" cost of launch per person. While it is cheaper "per person" it still does not change price of launch itself and NASA also does not need to send that many people up there at once.
    And just imagine 7 people cramped in the ship with the same size and internal space as Federation. It would make Soyuz look spacious...Very Happy    

    This all does not mean that they cannot build 6-man (or even more) "life-boat" version some day but that might be done only after standard version is brought into use.

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri May 06, 2016 2:31 pm

    PapaDragon wrote: And just imagine 7 people cramped in the ship with the same size and internal space as Federation. It would make Soyuz look spacious...Very Happy    

    In socialist times in Poland families going vacations with language in so called Fiat 126p Soyus would eb also spacious Smile




    PapaDragon wrote:
    This all does not mean that they cannot build 6-man (or even more) "life-boat" version some day but that might be done only after standard version is brought into use.

    So after all 6 persons version can still be revived? good,

    BTW any chance about Klipper project revival?

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 06, 2016 3:11 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    So after all 6 persons version can still be revived? good,

    BTW any chance about Klipper project revival?

    Not likely, Klipper is a goner.


    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote: And just imagine 7 people cramped in the ship with the same size and internal space as Federation. It would make Soyuz look spacious...Very Happy    

    In socialist times in Poland families going vacations with language in so called Fiat 126p Soyus would eb also spacious Smile


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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  kvs on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:31 pm

    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/ptk_pu.html

    Best landing gear out there. When will these Russians ever learn (to make America look good).


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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:39 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Folks from this region can tell you thing or two about twists and turns on those roads.  pwnd

    It took me three whole decades to forget that ordeal, thanks a lot for reminding me!!!  angry lol1

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    kvs wrote:http://www.russianspaceweb.com/ptk_pu.html

    Best landing gear out there.   When will these Russians ever learn (to make America look good).



    you know kinda tradition Smile





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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:04 pm

    Russian space corporation to spend $900 mln for flight model of new manned spacecraft

    A bidding contest envisions development of a next-generation spacecraft for flights to the low-Earth orbit and beyon the orbit

    MOSCOW, September 30. /TASS/. Russia's state space corporation Roscosmos plans spending more than 57 billion rubles ($900 mln) to develop the first flight model to the next-generation Federation manned spacecraft, to trial-test it on a mission to the International Space Station and to build a second spaceship in the Federation family.

    A bidding contest envisions "development of a next-generation manned transport spacecraft for flights to the low-Earth orbit and beyon the Earth's orbit, including lunar missions," says a specification for the contest Roscosmos placed at its homepage.

    The contest presupposes R&D, flight testing of the lead ship of family with an unmanned orbital flight in 2021, unmanned and manned missions to the ISS in 2023, and development of a second ship in the same family.

    The R&D works are expected to begin in October 2016 and to be completed in November 2025.

    The manufacturing of the Federation's flight model should begin in October 2016. The winner of the bid will be expected to get down to making the assembly units of the ship for a lunar flight in January 2020 and the first flight should take place not later than November 2025.


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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:41 am

    The contract to develop manned spacecraft "Federation"

    Contract price 57.55672837 billion rubles, not subject to VAT.
    Work should be completed by 30 November 2025.


    According to the attached Terms of Reference on MF OCD, to implement mid OCD is to create a complex manned transport spacecraft (KTTC), having in its composition manned transport a new generation of craft for missions to Earth orbit and beyond low Earth orbit, including the Moon, which provides safe crew return to Earth with the second cosmic velocity, as well as the creation of the rocket-space complexes ;, providing holding LEE manned transport spacecraft in Earth orbit and flying to the moon unmanned and manned mode.

    2.1.2 Flight tests (LCI-1) PTK:

    - An unmanned flight to the PTK in 2021;
    - PTK unmanned flight with a connection to ISS in 2023;
    - PTK manned flight to dock to the ISS in 2023.



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    Re: "Federation" spacecraft (ex PTK NP)

    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:07 pm

    Unmanned Federation spacecraft to be launched from Vostochny spaceport in 2021

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