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    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:31 pm

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    against stealth targets, because in those cases ARH homing head will difficultly see target and lock on it,

    Quite true.... you can get the targets precise position via another method then command guidance is just a case of 4D maths... getting longitude, latitude, and altitude to match exactly at one time would be a hit.

    Of course the unification of Hermes and Pantsir-S and Pantsir-SM would be interesting in that you could have a few missiles with GLONASS guidance or IIR guidance or MMW... or indeed all three with the capability of adding laser target marking to the mix as well as much cheaper command guidance missiles and you get all the benefits and can manage the costs as required.

    Pantsir-S and Pantsir-SM could completely replace SHORAD and an SA-6 level missile combination... in fact it could replace the whole Shilka, OSA, KUB system.

    Very exciting as its main missile is very cheap and simple and could be made in enormous numbers.
    Osa.... now that i think about it, i don't think i have ever seen the amphibious version of Pantsir in the water!?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:57 pm

    Osa.... now that i think about it, i don't think i have ever seen the amphibious version of Pantsir in the water!?

    The issue is that up until now Pantsir has been an air force system.

    Of course tunguska was not amphibious either, and considering TOR is the actual replacement for OSA and it is not amphibious as well.

    If there is a Boomerang or Kurganets based model of Pantsir for army use then perhaps they might be amphibious.


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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:06 am

    Arctic version of Pantsir

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    Post  Zivo on Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:19 am

    George1 wrote:Arctic version of Pantsir


    I like the camo.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:37 am

    Zivo wrote:
    George1 wrote:Arctic version of Pantsir


    I like the camo.

    yeah..its like zebra
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    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:05 pm

    Enjoy this presentation:

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:03 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Enjoy this presentation:

    hmm, at 1:30 the you guys will see the system mounted on a tracked chassis- Kurganets?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:19 am

    collegeboy16 wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Enjoy this presentation:

    hmm, at 1:30 the you guys will see the system mounted on a tracked chassis- Kurganets?

    The Kurganets version in the video looks to be the medium range Pantsir-SM with 45 km range missiles, while the Kamaz Typhoon (which may very well be air-droppable) is the SHORAD Pantsir-S1.
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    Post  medo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:38 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    collegeboy16 wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Enjoy this presentation:

    hmm, at 1:30 the you guys will see the system mounted on a tracked chassis- Kurganets?

    The Kurganets version in the video looks to be the medium range Pantsir-SM with 45 km range missiles, while the Kamaz Typhoon (which may very well be air-droppable) is the SHORAD Pantsir-S1.

    Neither of Pantsirs on video is SHORAD Pantsir-S1. Both are Pantsir-SM, which work in the same complex. One have search radar and guns, other have more missiles but without guns and search radar. Battery will for sure have command post and battery search radar. Anyway neither version of Pantsirs is air droppable, they are too heavy.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:13 pm

    Just the missile envelope view at the end of the video suggests the vehicle with the search radar has shorter range missiles and of course guns and deals with close range targets and low flying targets presumably to 20km like Pantsir-S, but the blue missile envelope showing the 45km range missile showed little low level engagement capability.

    therefore I suspect the two vehicles have different missiles and compliment each other forming the equivalent of Pantsir-S and BUK operating together, though with rather more BUK missiles...


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    Post  Viktor on Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:19 am

    WoW

    It seems that Morocco ordered 50 pancir-S1 systems !!!!

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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:26 am

    Viktor wrote:WoW

    It seems that Morocco ordered 50 pancir-S1 systems !!!!

    LINK


    Ohh ffs not again!

    Russia should sanction Morocco from military hardware those bastards already have cheated with T-80, Kontakt-5 ERA, MSTA-S and few other hardware and shipped it to US and UK.
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    Post  Viktor on Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:32 am

    Werewolf wrote:Ohh ffs not again!

    Russia should sanction Morocco from military hardware those bastards already have cheated with T-80, Kontakt-5 ERA, MSTA-S and few other hardware and shipped it to US and UK.

    There are few levels of Russian military hardware

    - intended for Russian army and its closest alies
    - export version for Russian allies
    - export version for Russian partner states that are stable
    - export version for states that are unstable and change of government is likely (meaning Russian hardware could find itself in a wrong hands)

    I think Morocco falls in the last category Very Happy
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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:36 am

    Viktor wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Ohh ffs not again!

    Russia should sanction Morocco from military hardware those bastards already have cheated with T-80, Kontakt-5 ERA, MSTA-S and few other hardware and shipped it to US and UK.

    There are few levels of Russian military hardware

    - intended for Russian army and its closest alies
    - export version for Russian allies
    - export version for Russian partner states that are stable
    - export version for states that are unstable and change of government is likely (meaning Russian hardware could find itself in a wrong hands)

    I think Morocco falls in the last category Very Happy

    The last group should be the group of sanctioned puppet nations, period. There money isn't worth anything the damage they have caused.
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    Post  Viktor on Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:57 am

    Werewolf wrote:The last group should be the group of sanctioned puppet nations, period. There money isn't worth anything the damage they have caused.

    Take in to account that Pancir-S1 was made because UAE gave money in the first place - so exporting something UAE also has, has no security issues but earns money - a lots of it Very Happy
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    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:22 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    Ohh ffs not again!

    Russia should sanction Morocco from military hardware those bastards already have cheated with T-80, Kontakt-5 ERA, MSTA-S and few other hardware and shipped it to US and UK.
    id say a deal is ok if the price it right- they better jack the price really high Twisted Evil .
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:45 am

    Nice Very Happy







    and the rest - http://saidpvo.livejournal.com/364363.html
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    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:13 pm

    Three Pantsir-S missile systems on test in Russia's Arctic
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:51 am

    Cool

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    Post  TR1 on Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:06 am

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1242010.html

    Info on Pantsir production.
    -30 units under contract from 2012-2013
    -Under contract from 2014-2016: 29 units in 2014, 7 in 2015, unknown in 2016.
    -22 reloading, maintenance and other support vehicles
    -37 units for export in 2014, 16 presumed in 2015
    -Kalashnikov is also making/maintaning a number of vehicles for domestic and export users

    Also:
    -export of 36 Kornet-EM launchers on the BMP-3 chassis, presumably to Algeria, in 2014
    -Namibia has ordered the Kornet-E. 12 thermal sights for the missiles were ordered for 2015
    -10 similar thermal sights ordered for Syria, for Kornet use in 2015
    -Bahrain has ordered the Kornet, and is expecting 3 thermal complexes in 2015
    -Peru has ordered a training system for the Kornet
    -Azerbaijan has ordered Kornet for its BMP-1/2 modernization
    -first 5 Kornet-D1 vehicles for the Russian MOD have been delivered for the parade
    -for testing purposes, the Degtyarev factory got orders for 65 9M113FM/M missiles in 2014, and 135 for 2015.
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:49 pm

    Pancir-S2 is coming online by the end of this year - I suspect its a somewhat modified Pancir-S1 with the missiles from the Pancir-SM.


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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:58 pm

    What are the differences in the missiles? Maybe AESA radar too, cause wasn't there photos at one point with AESA radar on a Pantsir?
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:06 pm

    sepheronx wrote:What are the differences in the missiles?  Maybe AESA radar too, cause wasn't there photos at one point with AESA radar on a Pantsir?

    Range of the missile is increased to 40km.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:23 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:What are the differences in the missiles?  Maybe AESA radar too, cause wasn't there photos at one point with AESA radar on a Pantsir?

    Range of the missile is increased to 40km.

    I don't know where you got that 40 km range figure from Viktor. I hope you are correct.
    As far as I can remember, PANTSIR-SM range was reported as 35 km.

    Do you have a source?

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