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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:00 pm

    Yes the official name of the further development is called ZBD08, it's been in development since 2012:









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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:22 pm

    PLZ-05A is essentially what a Kurganets 120mm gun mortar system may look like:









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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Regular on Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:08 am

    I'm pretty sure Russia will come up with something better than this.. Especially quality wise. Check the lock on backdoor.. :/
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  collegeboy16 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:45 am

    Regular wrote:I'm pretty sure Russia will come up with something better than this.. Especially quality wise. Check the lock on backdoor.. :/
    yeah, and the back door is really thin. Also the turret is too massive, the russkies would prolly use an unmanned turret to shave off a ton or two of metal and put that in the hull.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:38 am

    Keep in mind that is a mortar carrier and is for export.

    Domestic models might have advanced ceramic inserts and unmanned external guns but don't expect a fundamentally different vehicle... the IFV/APC will likely have a powered ramp rear door that is both larger and thicker...


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Asf on Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:48 am

    Some clues about Boomerang and Kurganets:

    - Ceramic armour
    - Advanced mine protection
    - May be even active defences and ERA (don't know for sure)

    As I know it was the MoD's demands: maximum level of protection

    Chiniese vehicles seems like older BMP with different (larger) hulls and some tweaks like better chassis may be or modern sights.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  VladimirSahin on Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:14 pm

    I want to hear news on the ARMATA already I hate how all the cool stuff start coming after I leave service  paratrooper  maybe I just might go back  Very Happy  how much "KURGANETS" will be made and when will they start production. In my service we were stuck with BMD-2s and rarely BMD-3s they all ways gave us the old stuff I guess they wanted us to finally finish their service life in fact one officer told us as a joke (or perhaps he meant it) to start crashing all the vehicles so we can order some new ones, VDV has great equipment but we have some stuff that we need to change really fast.

    The BMDs are scary to sit in knowing a guy with a armor piercing sniper or machine gun will tear us apart sitting on top is way better I feel bad that the army has to resort to sitting on top of APC's and IFV's. I know this is not related to anything here but in 2008 we were stationed on high alert I was so excited to go to Georgia maybe get a chance to kill some NATO scum bags or at least wanna be NATO scum bags but all my dreams were crushed.  I am currently in reserve and I am waiting to be called to Ukraine and teach those ****ers a lesson.  I just wanted to share this here because I am bored and want to hear new stuff about equipment.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Asf on Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:23 pm

    You should wait 'till 2015. But VDV already get their BMD-4M (for testing right now). And you should sign a contract if you want to go to Ukraine. I don't think it will be a matter for mobilisation.
    Btw didn't you serve at Pskov?
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  VladimirSahin on Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:51 pm

    asf I served in Tula during my first years 2008-2009 even during training time but then I got transfered to Pskov during 2010-2012 I was a contract soldier but I did one year for my conscription term (you know how it works) why did you ask? but I will tell you something Tula was better then Pskov in terms of base wise. (I edited this for a more detailed version btw plus a typo)


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  VladimirSahin on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:08 am

    GarryB we can always give it to you and say it was stolen by bandits  pwnd but I'm sure my unit got reequipped with modernized vehicles I miss my unit and I think I might sign another contract if that is possible this time hopefully I can stay in Tula I hear they made that place heaven now with new equipment and vehicles. Will the Kurganets be airlift-able?

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:20 am

    GarryB we can always give it to you and say it was stolen by bandits  

    Military tribunal is waiting for you


    Will the Kurganets be airlift-able?

    Depends on a plane) If serious, do you think about a BMP as an airlifted vehicle? It can be transported by transport aviation, but it's a mistery if it supposed to fit VDV demands. I doubt VDV will get them
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  VladimirSahin on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:32 am

    So VDV will not be able to get kurganets  Neutral  but its whatever as long as the army gets it.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:29 pm

    So VDV will not be able to get kurganets    but its whatever as long as the army gets it.

    Well, nobody knows, even Shamanov, that's why he managed to order BMD-4M. I think air-assault divisions (DShD) could use them if they use BMPs now


    The remaining parts of this story may follow.

    It's very interesting. I wait for more.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:45 pm

    "Ratnik", "Strelets", "Legioneer" clip
    another video

    A bit old, but I like it. Especially "Legioneer"

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:17 pm

    Good Details on Armoured and Protected vehical


    From locally Armored to Full-Scale protected vehicle
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  TR1 on Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:46 am



    Bastion variants depending on launch platform: BMP-3, T-62, T-55, M-12, and the naked round.

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