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    Re: Soviet Afghanistan war

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:45 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:An example of early Iranian support to the Muj.
    Note the G3 rifle


    Near Herat, Afghanistan- Afghan rebels snipe at Soviet-held positions near Herat January 11. The rebel raiding party, travelling by motorcycle and horseback, crossed from Iran into Afghanistan's Doab Valley in a three-day raid. Photographer Ishmael Ansary accompanied the raiders and made this set of pictures.

    Pakistan had the same production lines, fun fact POF (Pakistan Ordnance Factory) would initially run its production lines on Iranian H&K presses. And even worse HIT Taxila would initially receive Iranian ordered Mk3/4 British parts for their decaying fleet, which were unfit and were returned and most importantly M113 and future Al Tahla (variant of M113). Later more Iranian ordered goodies would be given to Pakistan (like M60 based ARV's which Pakistan had not any tank to go with).

    What is ironically more conducive of Iranian support for Al-Ansar ar Allah mujahids is the Mauser rifle which Pakistan did not posses (and Location of mujahidin at Iranian Border).


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    Re: Soviet Afghanistan war

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:09 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:An example of early Iranian support to the Muj.
    Note the G3 rifle


    Near Herat, Afghanistan- Afghan rebels snipe at Soviet-held positions near Herat January 11. The rebel raiding party, travelling by motorcycle and horseback, crossed from Iran into Afghanistan's Doab Valley in a three-day raid. Photographer Ishmael Ansary accompanied the raiders and made this set of pictures.

    Pakistan had the same production lines, fun fact POF (Pakistan Ordnance Factory) would initially run its production lines on Iranian H&K presses. And even worse HIT Taxila would initially receive Iranian ordered Mk3/4 British parts for their decaying fleet, which were unfit and were returned and most importantly M113 and future Al Tahla (variant of M113). Later more Iranian ordered goodies would be given to Pakistan (like M60 based ARV's which Pakistan had not any tank to go with).

    What is ironically more conducive of Iranian support for Al-Ansar ar Allah mujahids is the Mauser rifle which Pakistan did not posses (and Location of mujahidin at Iranian Border).


    Judging by the early handguard, location and the date, it must be Iranian stock (same as turkish ones).
    I know current Pak Army's stock looks like ours, with the all-plastic guard. Did Pak Army use older handguard ones?


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    Re: Soviet Afghanistan war

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:18 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:An example of early Iranian support to the Muj.
    Note the G3 rifle


    Near Herat, Afghanistan- Afghan rebels snipe at Soviet-held positions near Herat January 11. The rebel raiding party, travelling by motorcycle and horseback, crossed from Iran into Afghanistan's Doab Valley in a three-day raid. Photographer Ishmael Ansary accompanied the raiders and made this set of pictures.

    Pakistan had the same production lines, fun fact POF (Pakistan Ordnance Factory) would initially run its production lines on Iranian H&K presses. And even worse HIT Taxila would initially receive Iranian ordered Mk3/4 British parts for their decaying fleet, which were unfit and were returned and most importantly M113 and future Al Tahla (variant of M113). Later more Iranian ordered goodies would be given to Pakistan (like M60 based ARV's which Pakistan had not any tank to go with).

    What is ironically more conducive of Iranian support for Al-Ansar ar Allah mujahids is the Mauser rifle which Pakistan did not posses (and Location of mujahidin at Iranian Border).


    Judging by the early handguard, location and the date, it must be Iranian stock (same as turkish ones).
    I know current Pak Army's stock looks like ours, with the all-plastic guard. Did Pak Army use older handguard ones?


    Yes they did.



    They had the whole range.

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    Re: Soviet Afghanistan war

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:48 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Yes they did.



    They had the whole range.

    I see, interesting. But going back to the pic, it's from a journalist that followed some Muj from Iran crossing into Herat. That should be Iranian G3, testament to Mullah support for certain Muj elements. Hence why USSR supported Saddam so much during the war.

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    Re: Soviet Afghanistan war

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:41 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Yes they did.



    They had the whole range.

    I see, interesting. But going back to the pic, it's from a journalist that followed some Muj from Iran crossing into Herat. That should be Iranian G3, testament to Mullah support for certain Muj elements. Hence why USSR supported Saddam so much during the war.

    Off course I said as much. The fact the fat mullah is aiming his Mauser it proof that these are people supported by Iran (and location). Just Making sure that nothing is taken out of context. This context screams Iran. And also photograph is known IRI linked reporter.

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    Re: Soviet Afghanistan war

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:44 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Off course I said as much. The fact the fat mullah is aiming his Mauser it proof that these are people supported by Iran (and location). Just Making sure that nothing is taken out of context. This context screams Iran. And also photograph is known IRI linked reporter.

    Yeah I was just underlining it for others. The mullah setup is typical Shia hood tongue
    I imagine IRI as the war with Iraq progressed lost interest in Afghanistan.

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