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    Re: MiG-31BM Interceptor: News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:03 am

    Intakes? Still need to go in for the eye exam dude

    I stand by intakes... that is the end they got in. Shocked

    OK, well here is your reward... the front cockpit of a Mig-31BM:



    Of course the rear cockpit doesn't have a HUD and AFAIK has 3 large MFDs while the pilot gets two big and one small...
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:07 am

    BTW I think I read in a western book on the Migs that the Mig-31 equivalent of the Mig-25RB was supposed to be able to carry that centreline tank in lieu of two 1,500kg bombs normally fitted to the belly.

    The max payload of the Mig-31RB (which AFAIK never actually entered service sadly) was 9 tons and consisted of two 1,500kg bombs under the belly and one more under each of the four wing pylons.
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    Post  TR1 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:22 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Intakes? Still need to go in for the eye exam dude

    I stand by intakes... that is the end they got in. Shocked

    OK, well here is your reward... the front cockpit of a Mig-31BM:



    Of course the rear cockpit doesn't have a HUD and AFAIK has 3 large MFDs while the pilot gets two big and one small...


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    Re: MiG-31BM Interceptor: News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:10 am

    Not having a good day am I... Embarassed
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:26 am

    Here are some high resolution photos of the old Mig-31s cockpit...

    http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/mig/mig-31_cockpit/index.htm
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    Post  TR1 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:24 am

    GarryB wrote:Not having a good day am I... Embarassed

    Haha, all good. MiG-31BM cockpit is a rare thing- this is the only glimpse of the cockpit that I was able to find, on actual serial planes. We know that there is one MDF in the cockpit, 3 in the operators cabin.

    http://igor113.livejournal.com/38349.html

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:48 am

    We know that there is one MDF in the cockpit, 3 in the operators cabin.

    Which makes it the same as the Mig-31M...





    The above two photos are the front seat positions and the two photos below show the colour coordinated rear cockpits.



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    Post  TR1 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:04 am

    Yes, but the cockpit has been redone since. General layout is probably similar, but for example in the link I posted, you can see the pilot's MDF is in a much higher position than the M prototype.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:45 am

    It Was the same for the Mig-29M where the first aircraft had two large MFDs in a siimilar position to the front MFD above, but later models had the two MFDs much higher up.
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    Re: MiG-31BM Interceptor: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:32 pm

    Russian Air Force to Get 10 MiG-31BMs This Year

    The Russian Air Force's Central Military District will receive its first ten modernized MiG-31BM interceptors this year, the District's press service said on Monday.

    "The air forces of the Central Military District will take delivery of 10 MiG-31BM fighter-interceptors and two Mi-26 heavy transport helicopters this year," a Central Military District representative said.

    The Russian Air Force has previously said it intends to take delivery of up to 60 MiG-31BMs by 2020, under a contract signed with United Aircraft Corporation in 2011.

    The MiG-31BM is a heavily modified variant of the MiG-31, featuring upgraded avionics and digital data links, a new multimode radar, color multi-function cockpit displays, and a more powerful fire-control system. It can detect airborne targets at the range of 320 kilometers (200 miles) and simultaneously track up to 10 targets.

    The MiG-31BM can carry new air-to-air missiles including the K-37M long-range air-to-air missile, which has been developed specifically for it according to Douglas Barrie, an air warfare analyst at the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies.

    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120618/174102637.html
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:51 am

    Finally some news about MIG-31BM

    Apparently 12 of MIG-31BM will perform together with several battalions of S-300PS.

    Well at least we know modernization is going on and airforce got 12 of MIG-31BM at least.

    Just several days ago there where S-400 exercise in the same place and now this. Airdefense units are getting lots of exercise lately.

    27/08/12 AT THE LANDFILL WILL BE A JOINT EXERCISE ASHULUK FIGHTER AIR GROUP AND ASSOCIATION OF AEROSPACE DEFENSE OF THE CENTRAL MILITARY DISTRICT


    Defense Ministry website . At the landfill will Ashuluk joint tactical exercise with live fire fighter air group and association of aerospace defense of the Central Military District. to the drawing of its episodes involved aviation units of 12 MiG-31BM and several divisions of association of aerospace defense, armed with anti-aircraft missile systems S -300PS. addition, the exercise participants will meet standards for radiation, chemical and biological protection in a contaminated area, arrange ground defenses, and the locations of air defense missile systems.



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    Post  TR1 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:57 am

    AFAIK around 20 have already been counted.
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    Post  medo on Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:35 pm

    Mig-31BM is quite good improvement for air defense force, specially if its Zaslon radar is somehow comparable in air to air mode with Irbis from Su-35. On the other hand two seater Su-30SM could also have similar capabilities for long range patrols.
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    Re: MiG-31BM Interceptor: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:40 pm

    Mig-31 can be used as an anti-satellite weapon also
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    Post  SOC on Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:09 pm

    George1 wrote:Mig-31 can be used as an anti-satellite weapon also

    Provided you develop another ASAT and convert some launchers. But in reality the ASAT role is going to the S-500.

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    Post  Arrow on Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:37 pm

    But in reality the ASAT role is going to the S-500.

    We don't know what interceptor will be develop for S-500 Neutral
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:31 am

    I would appreciate it if somebody told me if the MiG-31 can supercruise.
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:56 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:I would appreciate it if somebody told me if the MiG-31 can supercruise.

    It can not supercruse but its cruising speed is Mach 2.35 much higher than Raptors supercruising speed.

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    Post  TR1 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:31 am

    Also it has unmatched supersonic endurance.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:01 am

    The whole point about supercruising is the fly fast without burning too much fuel so that a large percentage of flight can be in supersonic dry thrust.

    For the Mig-31 it is kinda irrelevant because it was designed to fly at Mach 2.4 all the way out and all the way back in an interception with a flight radius of about 750km, so in actual fact it will be flying much faster than an F-22 would be, so the speed advantage for the latter is gone.

    There were plans to fit the Mig-31 with a large belly mounted rocket that could be used to launch satellites... I rather suspect such an arrangement could also be used with a weapon to shoot down satellites too.


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    Post  flamming_python on Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:39 am

    GarryB wrote:There were plans to fit the Mig-31 with a large belly mounted rocket that could be used to launch satellites

    I wonder why that was never done? Sounds like it could have turned far cheaper than our chemical-fuel rockets with a less than stellar success rate.
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    Post  TR1 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:00 am

    As a whole Saluyt and Proton have a very good record.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:31 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    I wonder why that was never done? Sounds like it could have turned far cheaper than our chemical-fuel rockets with a less than stellar success rate.

    Most likely because air launched satellites are micro sats and only enter LEO. You can stick a dozen of them on one rocket.


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    Post  flamming_python on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:32 am

    TR1 wrote:As a whole Saluyt and Proton have a very good record.

    Yeah I guess. Seems to be some problems in those satellites acquiring the correct orbits though sometimes, or am I mistaken?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:20 am

    Russian rocket performance is actually very good, and the Proton is a sound and reliable rocket.

    The problem is that everyone focuses on the failures... especially when they are spectacular.

    A good example is the US Space shuttle... it had a totally awesome record, and then two separate incidents, that have tarnished the record of what was a very successful program.

    Even with two fatal accidents the Space Shuttle had a very good record... much better than was expected, which was something like a fatal accident every 100 launches or something.

    Even with the two fatal launches the only thing wrong with it was the high cost of each launch.

    Otherwise a very very successful program.

    Russian rockets are so good even the US buys them for their future planned rockets... the Saturn IV is gone and if they want to get to Mars with more than robots they will need a new big rocket and that new big rocket will be using Russian rocket motors.


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