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    Post  Isos on Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:46 am

    GarryB wrote:The F-117 was made of metal was it not stealthy?

    The R-37M will climb to altitude and fly at high speed at high altitude... I rather doubt the AWACS would see it coming as it wont be looking up it will be looking out and down...

    But as mentioned even if it does spot it at long range it wont be able to do much until it is coming down in a steep dive on the AWACS aircraft from rather high altitude...

    It is a shame they only have two by two instead of the three by two of the MiG-31M design... ah well...

    True.

    Su-35 with its Irbis is a better plateform for r-37.

    They were talking about a new powerful radar for the 31M which would be nice since it has very huge engines to power it.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:18 pm

    Very little about Zaslon-AM exists. It is rather hush hush about it which with the advent of modernizing a ton of MiG-31's with it, including introducing new long range missiles, gives indication it may very well be much more powerful than we may know.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:48 am

    The main targets of the R-37M will be AWACS and tanker aircraft and also JSTARS and troop transports... they wont be using them against stealthy aircraft or even fighter aircraft most of the time so extreme radar power would not be needed.

    A MiG-35 should be able to detect an AWACS plane scanning from enormous ranges, so targeting should not be a problem.

    It could also receive the target general location from another platform or source.

    The first launches of R-37M required an Su-30M operating much closer to the target to provide target information, but once launched the missile did its own thing as it is an ARH missile with its own radar sensor.

    I rather doubt they expect the MiG-31s carrying R-37M missiles to operate with forward deployed Su-30Ms so they have clearly improved radar performance... the original Zaslon was handicapped with a rather weak computer processing capacity, but its electronic scanning forms an enormous volume of airspace it can track targets within... it was a very impressive achievement when it entered service whose performance should not be under estimated...
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:21 am

    Zaslon M and AM fixed all those issues of poor processing power. Minor adjustments to tech on Bars R gave it performance increase from fighter based sized target of 140km to over 300km getting even closer to Irbis performance. The Zaslon AM is theorized to be even higher than Irbis now thanks to modern technology and newer microprocessors. Hopefully they use Elbrus 4SM (with the elvees dsp cores).
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    Post  hoom on Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:36 pm

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3620414.html
    About the 2017 crash.
    Apparently was shot down by its wingman due to the ZaslonAM IFF failing to work properly.
    They say it happened because it was running in experimental pulsed mode rather than normal quasi-continuous mode, trying to increase number of simultaneous engaged targets.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:36 pm

    hoom wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3620414.html
    About the 2017 crash.
    Apparently was shot down by its wingman due to the ZaslonAM IFF failing to work properly.
    They say it happened because it was running in experimental pulsed mode rather than normal quasi-continuous mode, trying to increase number of simultaneous engaged targets.

    Was reading that.  I imagine they went back to figure out what went wrong with the IFF in that regards.  Probably the radar's architecture didn't pick up the IFF translation from the onboard computer thus not blocking the radar or giving the radar information that the other aircraft was friendly.  Good thing no one died but too bad they lost one of the jets.

    I am still trying to find information on the MiG-31BM's Zalson AM radar.  Anyone got technical data?

    Edit: This is what I got on Zaslon-M but what about Zaslon-AM?

    The Zaslon-M is an upgraded, multi-mode version of the Zaslon phased array antenna radar developed by KRET Corporation for the Mig-31BM aircraft, which is also a modernized version of the Mig-31 interceptor. The modernization of the radar focused on the maximum detection range, use of new types of weapons, implementation of a digital receiver and avionics upgrade. The Zaslon-M can detect a fighter aircraft at a range of 320 kilometers with the ability to engage them at a distance of 280 kilometers. The upgraded radar can track up to 24 aircraft while engaging up to eight airborne targets simultaneously. The Zaslon-M also enables the use of air-to-air missiles, smart bombs and anti-radiation missiles.
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    Post  Isos on Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:25 am

    The probleme wasn't the radar but the S-800 and Baget-55 computer that hasn't enough computing power to process the signals from the Zaslon.

    It should be solved with modern computer when modernized.

    It seems that the IRST is too old to work with this computer.

    Original report of the incident.

    https://baza.io/posts/f3824674-7116-47bb-bc0f-572e58cea35a
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    Post  hoom on Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:36 am

    Baget-55 is a new computer from ~2004.
    There is newer gen on Su-35/57 though, so maybe they need a Zaslon-MA-M or -M2 with the newer processors.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:12 am

    They cleared usage of Elbrus 2 and 4 CM that has elvees DSP cores so that could also work too.
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    Post  dino00 on Fri May 03, 2019 11:09 pm

    Top view: MiG-31BM fighter will be turned into an attack headquarters

    "Combat Airships" will receive a unique automatic control system

    Aleksey Ramm
    Alexey Kozachenko


    Russian interceptors MiG-31 became carriers of an automated control system (ACS) with unique technical characteristics. This is a combat reconnaissance circuit, which creates a continuous field of observation within a radius of more than 300 km. Data will be collected and processed using elements of artificial intelligence. And the leading fighter-interceptor MiG-31 will be able to independently hit targets or point them at other fighters or air defense weapons.

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    https://iz.ru/873658/aleksei-ramm-aleksei-kozachenko/vzgliad-sverkhu-istrebitel-mig-31bm-prevratiat-v-shtab-ataki
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    Post  Viktor on Sat May 11, 2019 9:49 am

    dino00 wrote:Top view: MiG-31BM fighter will be turned into an attack headquarters

    "Combat Airships" will receive a unique automatic control system

    Aleksey Ramm
    Alexey Kozachenko


    Russian interceptors MiG-31 became carriers of an automated control system (ACS) with unique technical characteristics. This is a combat reconnaissance circuit, which creates a continuous field of observation within a radius of more than 300 km. Data will be collected and processed using elements of artificial intelligence. And the leading fighter-interceptor MiG-31 will be able to independently hit targets or point them at other fighters or air defense weapons.

    Full Article
    https://iz.ru/873658/aleksei-ramm-aleksei-kozachenko/vzgliad-sverkhu-istrebitel-mig-31bm-prevratiat-v-shtab-ataki

    this can greatly evolve air combat by adding more complexity to it simply by means of adding more freedom of thought to reality Smile
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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:41 am

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