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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  DostoevskyRasputin on Sun 13 Apr 2014, 19:20

    I hate to say this, but I think Russia's relations with Syria are more sensible than my own country's!

    Sure Assad is a murderous thug. But he is a stabilizing force who protects the rights of women and minorities (to a degree) and is stopping his country from becoming a taliban state.

    The rebels we are funding would not bring democracy. There may be a few who have good intentions, but they will be swept away by the Isalmists. So props to you Russia!

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    Russia Israel relations

    Post  par far on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 17:45

    With the on going Syrian conflict, it has really driven a hedge between Russia and Israel relations. And now Russia saying that "mossad is training ISIL terriosts" and Asking why israelis bombed syria just recently. How will this affect Russian israeli relations?

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  Werewolf on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 00:04

    Screw israel, it is an open secret that they are attacking since decades their neighbouring countries with terrorist attacks or with US help, they seek regional power which they can not have without US and NATO countries fighting wars for them. Russia knows this all along that Israel is main terrorist in Middle East that fights wars against independent government like Lybia,Syria and Iran. The problem are the zionazis and jew sympathizers in Russia that are forming the 5th column and giving russian money to Israel and trying to play a retarded game of Pseudo Friendship which they force upon russia despite Israel is a perennial threat to russia and russians due its politics and sect believes.

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  GarryB on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 03:36

    I think you mean a wedge between Russia and Israel.

    They have never been best buddies... the UAVs the Russians bought and licence produced were obsolete models with the latest models not for sale.

    Otherwise there has not been that much cooperation between them...


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    Russia Plans War on Israel: Moscow to Push Hezbollah, Assad into Direct Confrontation

    Post  par far on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 21:30

    What do you make of this? I don't know if it is just proganda or something else.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/russia-plans-war-israel-moscow-push-hezbollah-assad-regime-into-direct-confrontation-617923

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  Zivo on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 22:00

    The official who spoke on condition of anonymity told the WND...  Rolling Eyes

    It sounds like BS. Russia would benefit more by reconstructing Syria and Iraq, defeating ISIS, and building up the region into one coherent alliance. Then they can deal with Saudi Arabia and Israel.


    There's more appropriate sections of the forum to post this.

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Tue 23 Dec 2014, 01:19

    i think this thread belongs to middle east section Smile

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  GarryB on Tue 23 Dec 2014, 05:13

    It is not really military related as such so I have moved it to the international politics section.

    Personally... without having read the article, I think it is just another western conspiracy theory about Putin... make him appear a puppet master and people might not notice all the strings lead to washington.


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  max steel on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 10:20

    Russia, Israel to Jointly Develop Onboard Electronics for MS-21 Aircraft




    Russia’s KRET Concern and the Israeli defense company Elbit Systems Ltd will cooperate to develop the onboard electronic systems for the all-new Russian MS-21 (Yak-242) medium-range aircraft, the KRET press-office told RIA Novosti.
    Elbit Systems is Israel's largest private defense contractor and has designed and modernized a wide range of weapons and military equipment, including UAVs, avionics, radio-radar systems, and artillery and missile guidance systems.


    beware russia now russian airlines can be targeted by zions

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20150606/1023016241.html

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 20:25

    max steel wrote: Russia, Israel to Jointly Develop Onboard Electronics for MS-21 Aircraft

         
     


    Russia’s KRET Concern and the Israeli defense company Elbit Systems Ltd will cooperate to develop the onboard electronic systems for the all-new Russian MS-21 (Yak-242) medium-range aircraft, the KRET press-office told RIA Novosti.
    Elbit Systems is Israel's largest private defense contractor and has designed and modernized a wide range of weapons and military equipment, including UAVs, avionics, radio-radar systems, and artillery and missile guidance systems.


     beware russia now russian airlines can be targeted by zions

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20150606/1023016241.html

    I'm almost certain that the targeted market for this isn't Russia, but most likely India.

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  max steel on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 20:38

    Lol mag you want us indians to die for zions ? Btw indian airliners dont use russian planes . Mostly use Boeing , Airbus Sharklet and  Bombardier . Only Spicejet uses Bombardier rest use boeing or airbus . No russian sukhoi planes .

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  sepheronx on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 20:42

    max steel wrote:Lol mag you want us indians to die for zions ? Btw indian airliners dont use russian planes . Mostly use Boeing , Airbus Sharklet and  Bombardier . Only Spicejet uses Bombardier rest use boeing or airbus . No russian sukhoi planes .

    Not yet. Don't forget there were talks for it, and MS-21 is probably a direct competitor to SSJ-100 with rumors of India's interest in it. So that would indicate that MS-21 could be sold in India in future. I believe it was either MS-21 or SSJ-100 that they were even offering partial tech transfer and manufacturing in India. If they pulled this, they would essentially obtain the Indian market for it.

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  max steel on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 20:51

    I have never flown in a MS or  SSJ but i was satisfied with boeing and airbus sharklets . sharklet is fuel efficient civilian plane

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Sat 19 Sep 2015, 01:06


    Putin, Netanyahu to discuss Middle East situation — Kremlin

    Netanyahu’s office announced on Thursday the prime minister’s plans to visit Moscow next week to discuss with Putin "the deployment of Russian forces in Syria"

    SOCHI, September 18. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin will discuss with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the situation in the Middle East next week, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said on Friday.

    "This will be a businesslike sincere conversation of the two leaders," he told TASS.

    Ushakov said Putin and Netanyahu "meet quite often and have telephone conversations."

    Netanyahu’s office announced on Thursday the prime minister’s plans to visit Moscow next week to discuss with Putin "the deployment of Russian forces in Syria."

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists earlier on Friday that Russia will consider Syria’s request to send troops if Damascus asks for it, but it is hard to talk about hypothetically.

    Peskov also said that Turkish and Palestinian leaders Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Mahmoud Abbas could visit Moscow next week.


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 12:49

    Russia, Israel agree coordination of joint actions regarding Syria

    Certain agreements at the meeting of Putin and Netanyahu were achieved, Kremlin spokesman says

    MOSCOW, September 24. /TASS/. Russia and Israel have discussed the coordination of joint actions regarding Syria, Russian presidential spokesman has told reporters.

    "As far as channels of information exchanges and coordination of likely actions are concerned, this theme was discussed. Certain agreements at the meeting with Netanyahu were achieved," he stated.

    As he dwelt on the theme of Israeli media reports to the effect the meeting for the coordination of joint actions in Syria at the defense minister level might take place on October 5, he remarked that "the group’s meeting is a theme that concerns the Defence Ministry and all questions regarding the date and the very instance of such a meeting should be addressed there."

    Earlier, the Jerusalem Post said that Israel and Russia will set up a joint work group for coordinating actions regarding Syria.

    "The IDF and Russian military will set up a joint working group to coordinate their Syria-related activities in the aerial, naval, and electromagnetic arenas," the daily quoted a source on Monday.

    The chief of the Israeli army’s General Staff, Gadi Eisenkot, met with his Russian counterpart Valery Gerasimov in Moscow on Monday. Also, Eisenkot was present at Russian President Vladimir Putin’s meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    According to the Jerusalem Post "afterward, the two sides agreed to set up a joint working group led by the deputy chiefs of staff from each country; the first meeting will occur in two weeks, and the location will be decided in the coming days."

    After the talks Netanyahu told Israeli media in a telephone interview that Israel and Russia had agreed to establish a coordination mechanism to prevent ‘misunderstandings, clashes’ between their forces in Syria.


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Thu 03 Mar 2016, 02:58

    Israel understands Russia’s actions in Syria — ambassador

    Israeli Ambassador to Russia Zvi Heifetz noted the importance of preventing "the possibility that Iran will sit on the Golan Heights"

    MOSCOW, March 1. /TASS/. Israel understands Russia’s actions in Syria, Israeli Ambassador to Russia Zvi Heifetz has said. According to him, Russia has made a substantial contribution to the ceasefire agreement in this country.

    "We understand Russia’s actions in Syria. However, it is very important for us to eventually prevent the possibility that Iran will sit on the Golan Heights, to prevent the possibility of Iran’s aggression from Syrian territory and to prevent the supplies of weapons to Iran through Syria," he said on Tuesday at a meeting with Federation Council speaker Valentina Matviyenko.

    The diplomat also commended Russia’s contribution to the ceasefire agreement in Syria. "This is a big contribution, and this should be appreciated," he said.


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  arpakola on Thu 03 Mar 2016, 16:30

    http://politobzor.net/show-83291-putin-mozhet-na-zakonnyh-osnovaniyah-lishit-turciyu-30-ee-territoriy-karta.html

    will Russia terminate THE KARS Agreement of 1921 , legaly expiring this year  ?

    By this agreement the shaded area south of Armenia were given to Kemal by the Bolshevics

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  JohninMK on Fri 15 Apr 2016, 23:24

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-steps-back-from-fresh-uav-deals-with-russia-424269/

    15 April, 2016 BY: Arie Egozi Tel Aviv

    Washington has vetoed any further sales of Israeli-made unmanned air vehicles to Russia.

    For several months Russian companies have contacted Israeli manufacturers in an attempt to reach joint venture agreements. However after checking with the Israeli defence ministry about the potential of formalising any such pact, it became obvious the US administration would be very strongly opposed, and would veto any export license. Further discussions have been halted as a result.

    Moscow has previously purchased 10 Searcher 2 and 30 BirdEye-450 UAVs from Israel Aerospace Industries, with these having been partially assembled in a Russian plant. Some of the air vehicles – mainly of the former model, dubbed "Forpost" in national service – have been used by Russian forces in Syria.


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  kvs on Fri 15 Apr 2016, 23:46

    JohninMK wrote:https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-steps-back-from-fresh-uav-deals-with-russia-424269/

       15 April, 2016 BY: Arie Egozi Tel Aviv

    Washington has vetoed any further sales of Israeli-made unmanned air vehicles to Russia.

    For several months Russian companies have contacted Israeli manufacturers in an attempt to reach joint venture agreements. However after checking with the Israeli defence ministry about the potential of formalising any such pact, it became obvious the US administration would be very strongly opposed, and would veto any export license. Further discussions have been halted as a result.

    Moscow has previously purchased 10 Searcher 2 and 30 BirdEye-450 UAVs from Israel Aerospace Industries, with these having been partially assembled in a Russian plant. Some of the air vehicles – mainly of the former model, dubbed "Forpost" in national service – have been used by Russian forces in Syria.


    Good. More incentive for Russia to get its sh*t together to assemble these toys.

    Russia needs a purge of the monetarist 5th column that sabotages money on serious R&D and science. For example, the Skat project went nowhere
    because of no government money for it. Instead of importing every retarded idea from the west (e.g. monetarism, communism, fascism) and believing
    in it dogmatically, Russia needs to actually look and see what the precious west is doing. The US government spends a lot of taxpayer money on
    subsidizing R&D for corporations. There is no market mechanism to drive innovation. Common accounting practice classifies company R&D activity
    as a loss even though it generates revenue in the future. You can see the same process in the medical industry where the true innovation is funded
    by taxpayer money at universities while corporations blow billions on advertising and repackaging old products. The Russian government is retarded
    enough to believe that Russia defense companies are going to pay for all of the innovation.

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  max steel on Fri 22 Apr 2016, 13:01

    Russian forces in Syria fired on Israeli military aircraft


    That's what happens when you violate another nation's airspace without permission, especially during a conflict. attack

    Russian forces in Syria have fired at least twice on Israeli military aircraft, prompting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to seek improved operational coordination with Moscow, Israel's top-selling newspaper said on Friday.

    The unsourced report in Yedioth Ahronoth gave no dates or locations for the incidents nor any indication Israeli planes were hit. Russia mounted its military intervention in Syria in September to shore Damascus up amid a now 5-year-old rebellion.

    Separately, Israel's Channel 10 TV said a Russian warplane approached an Israeli warplane off the Mediterranean coast of Syria last week but that there was no contact between them.

    An Israeli military spokesman declined comment. Netanyahu's office and the Russian embassy in Israel did not immediately respond.

    Israel, which has repeatedly bombed Syria to foil suspected arms handovers to Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas, was quick to set up an operational hotline with Moscow designed to avoid accidentally trading fire with Russian interventionary forces.

    Visiting Moscow on Thursday, Netanyahu told Russian President Vladimir Putin in televised remarks: "I came here with one main goal - to strengthen the security coordination between us so as to avoid mishaps, misunderstandings and unnecessary confrontations."

    In an apparent allusion to Syria, Putin said: "I think there are understandable reasons for these intensive contacts (with Israel), given the complicated situation in the region."

    According to Yedioth, the reported Russian fire on Israeli planes was first raised with Putin by Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, who visited Moscow on March 15. At the time, Putin responded that he was unaware of the incidents, Yedioth said.

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    Kremlin denies firing on Israeli warplane in Syria

    Post  Visc on Sat 23 Apr 2016, 13:24

    Kremlin denies firing on Israeli warplane in Syria

    The Spokesperson for the Kremlin, Dmitry Peskov, issued a statement on Friday, denying that the Russian forces opened fire on an Israeli warplane inside Syria.

    When asked about the reports from the Israeli media regarding the alleged confrontation, Peskov responded: “in this case, Israeli press reports are far from reality.”

    The Israeli publication, Yedioth Ahronoth, alleges that the Russian forces have fired at Israeli warplanes on a number of occasions this year; however, these reports are all speculation.

    According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Israeli President Reuven Rivlin brought up these allegations during his visit to Moscow on March 15th.

    At the time, Putin responded that he was unaware of the incidents, Yedioth said.

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    I hope that this is just a statement though!

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat 23 Apr 2016, 14:21

    Jesus, not this again, how many times have we caught Israeli Yellow Press (pun intended) red handed inventing third dimensions...

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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Mon 30 May 2016, 15:14

    Russia will return to Israel tank that Syrian troops captured in 1980

    "Israel at the end of the week received a notice that the Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to the request by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on the return of the tank, which was handed over to the Syrians of the Russian army, and on display today at the Museum of Armored Forces," - said in a press statement Netanyahu service.

    is this just a matter of "moral satisfaction" for Israel??


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Fri 10 Jun 2016, 00:35

    Lavrov favors Russia-Israel ties

    Russia is ready to use its good relations with the Palestinians and the Israelis to end the stalemate in the Middle East settlement, says Lavrov

    MOSCOW, June 9 /TASS/. Russia’s relations with Israel are obtaining a stable positive quality, and the uncompromising struggle against terrorism contributes to the two countries’ rapprochement, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Thursday.

    He said that this week’s visit to Moscow of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had shown that the relations between Russia and Israel were obtaining a stable new positive quality.

    "In addition to mutually deep affection of our peoples for each other and apart from mutually-beneficial interaction; the presence of economic and investment projects, a very close vision of the region’s problems and the realization, above all, of the need to wage uncompromising struggle against terrorism without any double standards makes our relations even closer," Lavrov stressed.

    "We are convinced that the Palestinian-Israeli settlement and the Arab-Israeli conflict in a broader sense would certainly help preventing young people in Arab countries to fall an easy prey to recruiters from the terrorist international," the Russian foreign minister stressed.

    He added that Russia was ready to use its good relations with the Palestinians and the Israelis to end the stalemate in the Middle East settlement but it will do that exclusively within the framework of the "quartet" of Middle East peace brokers.

    "Russia has trustful and very good relations with the Palestinians and the Israelis. We are ready to be maximum active in using this comparative advantage," Lavrov said.

    "As for who is and can be the main broker in the Palestinian-Israeli settlement, the ‘quartet’ comprising Russia, the United States, the European Union and the United Nations," the Russian foreign minister said.

    "Russia has trustful and very good relations with the Palestinians and the Israelis. We are ready to be maximum active in using this comparative advantage," Lavrov said.

    He added that Moscow would promote close interaction between the "quartet" and the League of Arab States (LAS), the author of the Arab peace initiative, which is extremely important for joint efforts.


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    Re: Russian Foreign Policy in the Middle East

    Post  George1 on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 15:06

    Putin says Russia interested in ongoing dialogue with Saudi Arabia

    "We believe, of course, no major issue in the region can be settled without Saudi Arabia," Putin said

    HANGZHOU /China/, September 4. /TASS/. Russia pays special attention to expanding of the diverse cooperation with Saudi Arabia, which is the biggest oil producer, and without which no major international problem could be settled, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said during a meeting with successor of the Kingdom’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman on sidelines of the G20 summit in China on Sunday.

    "We are paying special attention to expanding of the diverse and mutually beneficial cooperation with Saudi Arabia," Putin said. "This is also true about our bilateral relations, meaning we are biggest oil producing countries."

    "We believe, of course, no major issue in the region can be settled without Saudi Arabia," he said.

    The Russian leader stressed it is very important for Russia to support ongoing contact with Saudi Arabia.


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