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    Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:46 pm

    No word has being said about Belarus despite being most natural Russian ally.

    As I read Belarus has in recently get first TOR-M2 battery with another one going its way this year also.

    As integrated as part of CIS it received 4 batteries/regiments (??) of S-300.

    Its airforce is outdated and Su-24 is being abandoned.

    Yet it announced procurement of S-400/Iskander/YAK-130 and as part of a CSTO it should get them at reduced price and with batter characteristic that those of the export one.

    Yet here is one interesting part.


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  TR1 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:26 pm

    Hopefully they actually pay for their hardware, I am tired of Lukashenko being subsidized by Russia.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:38 pm

    SOC wrote:
    Viktor wrote:As integrated as part of CIS it received 4 batteries/regiments (??) of S-300.

    They got four S-300PS batteries from Russia. Two went near Hrodna, two went near Brest.

    Well that right with the Polish border Very Happy

    With activation of S-400 in Kaliningrad and with this S-300 batteries in Poland Russia will have clear picture of everything that flying over Belarus and wider.

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    2T Stalker Armored Recon vehicle

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:22 pm

    Apart from being one of my favorite AFVs this belorussian recce vehicle is world class bringing   land stealth technologies, good armor for a recconaissance vehicle very good armament combining autocannon, ATGM and AA and outstanding mobility for a tracked chassis having 100km max speed.

    This would be a great replacement for the almost useless BDRM-2s in service and since belorussia is an ally a purchase would be easy.


    An modification of it featuring a a 57mm cannon would be ferocious.

    So is the army interested in developing or purchasing modern recconaissance vehicles(not flimsy scouts like the 30mm armed vystrel)?

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  TR1 on Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:36 pm

    No, it is too expensive + there are domestic equivalents, like BRM-3 Rys.

    The Stalker basically looks cool and stands out in no other way.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:18 am

    It is an interesting vehicle, but I think the main purpose of the new generation armour the Russians are introducing is to reduce the enormous range of vehicles from Russia and from former Soviet republics in their inventory and have a good clean out and upgrade to replace old with new but with some sort of standarisation and unification of platforms...

    The vehicle looks interesting and they might buy a dozen for testing and examination, but at the end of the day I think in 5 years time they will be spoilt for choice as to the types of vehicle family choices they will have for recon vehicles, from light through to heavy, and including UAV and land based drone vehicles.



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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Zivo on Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:16 pm

    Probably not. However, it is a very nice recce AFV, it might even be the best out there.

    The Russian army will begin a massive overhaul in the next few years, creating a high percentage of part commonality between their vehicles is absolutely essential in keeping the costs low and the rearmament viable.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Void on Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:46 am

    A reconnaissance vehicle with no FLIR* and no radar isn't much of an investment.

    *None of the visible apertures on the 2T are large enough to be a long range FLIR.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  TR1 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:33 pm

    Which ones are better?

    THe Belarussians have extensively tried to modernize Osa, but Russia has simply moved on to better, more modern systems.
    Methinks good old Batkya is too full of himself Wink

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  BTRfan on Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:29 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    If Libya had had 100 of these Gaddafi would still be breathing...


    Not when the CIA pays pilots hundreds of thousands of dollars to defect and support rebels!


    You don't think those pilots who left Libya with their aircraft, or the pilots who switched and went with the rebels, did it for free out of personal convictions, do you?


    I have firsthand information from a man who was in South Africa just before the surrender to Mandela and the ANC that the CIA bribed most of the key South African military generals to make sure none of them staged a coup which would have derailed the surrender.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  TR1 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:51 pm

    Given how quickly much of Libya turned against Gadhafi, I think its pretty plausible the pilots just decided to bail.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  BTRfan on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:38 pm

    TR1 wrote:Given how quickly much of Libya turned against Gadhafi, I think its pretty plausible the pilots just decided to bail.

    Don't under-estimate the CIA.

    They were able to enlist thousands of people into the "Contras" by paying them handsomely. Villagers who had no skills, no prospects, no future, and suddenly the CIA offered them 5-10x the average wage, so they became Contras.

    The CIA has a remarkable ability to gather together an army of rebels that the Western/Zionist corporate media will then present to the world as a "popular uprising of desperate citizens yearning for freedom."

    Then they have some profile of a "woman seeking revenge against the government for the murder of her son" and they have profiles on "former students turned revolutionaries, seeking freedom."

    They fail to mention that most of the revolutionaries are bought and paid for and behind the scenes they have mercenaries [usually former special forces from the West/NATO, Australia, and Israel, along with bought and paid for turn-coats from the government army].

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:44 pm

    Stick with the subject.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:28 pm

    Nice pic of Belarus TOR-M2


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:33 am

    Small picture from Belarus 2013 military parade - If anyone has something bigger would be nice

    Anyway its nice to see S-300V rolling Very Happy 


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  SOC on Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:22 am

    What's the thing behind the S-300Vs?

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:26 am

    Looks like some Tactical Missile to me either Scud or Tochka

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:38 am

    Looks like Scud AND Iskander with each vehicle cut in half and wielded together... scud in front.


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  SOC on Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:35 pm

    It's got 8 wheels visible and the split cabin seen on things like the Topol TEL. This thing is a lot bigger than a SCUD TEL, maybe some leftover Topol training vehicle or something. Looks weird whatever it is.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:06 pm

    Some images from MP of Belarus AD


     


    and my favorite Very Happy 


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:32 pm

    SOC wrote:What's the thing behind the S-300Vs?
    Austin wrote:Looks like some Tactical Missile to me either Scud or Tochka
    GarryB wrote:Looks like Scud AND Iskander with each vehicle cut in half and wielded together... scud in front.
    SOC wrote:It's got 8 wheels visible and the split cabin seen on things like the Topol TEL.  This thing is a lot bigger than a SCUD TEL, maybe some leftover Topol training vehicle or something.  Looks weird whatever it is.

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:40 am

    Just realised... Russia could stay in the INF treaty and develop IRBMs in Belarus and deploy all its IRBMs in Belarus territory... Belarus didn't sign and is not bound by the INF Treaty... Twisted Evil 


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:44 am

    BTW interesting ESM pod for fighters... potential for older aircraft to add ESM capability without having to fully upgrade the aircraft with sensors and wiring.

    Would be ideal for older aircraft to get capabilities only more modern aircraft have... and as a podded system you might just need 6 pods per unit or so and they would be easier to upgrade too.


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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:35 pm

    GarryB wrote:Just realised... Russia could stay in the INF treaty and develop IRBMs in Belarus and deploy all its IRBMs in Belarus territory... Belarus didn't sign and is not bound by the INF Treaty...  Twisted Evil 

    I was thinking in line. After Russia would develop IRBMs in Belarus, Belarus could form new military bases in Russia and place Belarus IRBM on Russian soil Very Happy 

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    Re: Belarus Ground Forces

    Post  Viktor on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:22 am

    Belarus BUK-M2




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